Open 789: Two-Fold 2d3 [Game Over]

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I'm not reading 70 pages, to be clear.

Let's get this dub guys.

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What's the Bell wagon about?

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Oh sick. Too easy.

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ZOOM ZOOM FAST NIGHT YEH

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No mass claim.

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Yeah nobody has ever hard bussed their buddy before.

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The remaining mafia player is either someone very experienced, very smart, or very lucky. Their kills were both on point for their win condition. Calculated risk, etc.

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VC 1.26

Jake The Wolfie (5) - dramonic, Hiraki, Marashu, Almost50, Bell [E-2]

teacher (2) - Dunnstral, RCEnigma
Dunnstral (2) - PenguinPower, teacher
dramonic (1) - Gamma Emerald
Hiraki (1) - Jake The Wolfie
Marashu (1) - Dannflor

Not voting: Chemist1422

With 13 alive it takes 7 to exile.

Day 1 deadline is currently frozen at 4 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until replacements are found.

Marashu has been prodded.

Last mafia is probably in Penguin/Gamma/Teacher/Chemist. It can likely be narrowed down further from pr claims and actions tomorrow

No cop clears, but one can infer he got a clear outside of this list.

Generally unhelpful but a place to start.

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Can confirm am not a PR.

So dram protecc teacher to clear one more after we lynch chemist?

Mafia is pretty fucked here. Sucks for them.

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Lol chemist

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Like

Both of his picks were already in that pile.

I feel like this is the third or fourth time I've seen you post something silly to attempt to look town.

VOTE: Chemist1422

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CC'ing Doc with this many townies alive? All by themselves?

You can't be serious.

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They know I'm lying chk, they know they're a goon and therefore there is no PR besides the dead cop.
It's not a risky CC

And how is it we know that, exactly?

UNVOTE: Chemist1422

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Also chk... It's an open setup, read the setup stuff plz

Town Cop is in four seperate slots, dude.

So please understand how I'm absolutely fucking perplexed here.

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This is dumb. Have fun with that.

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Just so you're all aware, it's 5:1 and the lonely little mafiate only needs two more mislynches. Convenient that two are lined up.

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Penguin always treats me like I'm a fucking moron when he's town.

Y'all still haven't explained how dramonic, when he claimed doctor, knew we were in a two goon setup. A flipped goon isn't indicative of that. Just like hard bussing your partner isn't indicative of being town.

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They know I'm lying chk, they know they're a goon and therefore there is no PR besides the dead cop.
It's not a risky CC

This implies he knew the setup.

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It even implies he knew that when he claimed.

He couldn't have, no?

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exhibit A)
If I were scum, nobody questionned my claim. I can shoot you tonight and win because we autolynch chemist, almost and hiraki.

Why has the list changed?

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You're also ignoring the point that you knew the setup when you claimed. Cute, but I'll keep bringing it up. You couldn't have possibly known from a goon flip that there wasn't another PR.

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But I didn't. I claimed to lock the potential goon out of claiming. I've explained that extensively already.
Can someone who isn't me explain this to chk, cuz he's clearly not getting it and I'm the last person he's willing to listen to <_<

Right, so you happened to come to the conclusion that you should claim Doctor even though we'd no idea there wasn't one in the setup. Then when nobody claimed, ta da! How brilliant you look when you're the man who concocted this extravagant idea. One that outed the other wolf PR into claiming vanilla clears for you. Whoopsie! That couldn't possibly have been scum motivated! OH no way! Because you hard pushed the other goon, so you're obviously town!

I don't buy it. Like, not even remotely. At all.

The second quote hints that you knew this to be the outcome (no counterclaim), so now you're riding even higher after slamming the goon to the rails early game.

It's pretty simple stuff, really.

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Like, how do you KNOW you're locking the other goon out of claiming?

How is that something that even crossed your mind before the other wolf PR vanilla clears two slots?

How do you know we're in a one PR mafia setup?

HMMMMM
HMMMMMMMMM

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VOTE: dramonic

He used setup knowledge no town player had at the time which ultimately made the other wolf PR out themselves unnecessarily. It's pretty cut and dry here, folks.

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It's not even just the goon. How did you KNOW we weren't in one of the other mafia setups with a cop? Because of a goon flip? Come the fuck on, dude. Every mafia setup has a fucking goon. It's absolute bullshit.

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Because you don't live through 3 mislynches with "lolroleblocked" as your excuse? Fucking duh?

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In my world (which is obviously a different one than the one you're living in) the gambit already paid off when he claimed Doctor. He already set the game to auto with a 3-players elimination pool. He shoots the Auditor (the only one that can confirm he was no PR) and sits back while we do all the work for him.

Yes, he did do that.

Yes, you are doing the work for him.

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Like

Mar is the only conf!town here. So why have 50 and Hiraki been traded for myself and PP? Because Teach confirmed we're vanilla? Where's the solve there, exactly? Why me over 50? Why PP over Hiraki? There is no logical step between "let's lynch these guys" to "no let's lynch those guys instead" aside from the fact that we were confirmed to be vanilla by the dead PR. That's not solving. That's not even close to fucking solving. There. Is. No. Logic. There.

"That was before I retracted my claim" is a fucking excuse at best, dude.

Where's the case?

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Why not? If the Mafia are multitasking, and you are the only PR that could stop their kill, then why the hell wouldn't you get RB'd every single night from then on? What would the Scum RB has to do with their RB ability?

In the event there's a scum roleblocker, the doctor only lives long enough to die after the Auditor is killed. Period. You don't leave the doctor alive for three mislynches other than the WIFOM of "why is the doctor still alive?" which only does a scum roleblocker so much justice. Especially one that was good enough to have thunderfucked your buddy.

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I've only started reading from roundabout the middle of yesterDay, so I don't have much of a read on you or Hiraki, but I'm confident with this exchange and one with Hiraki I can get enough of a hold on these slots. I've not (to my recollection) played against scum!Penguin so I can't actually say he only treats me like I'm stupid as town but he's town slotted for now. I don't see you playing to my ego as a scum move so you can be momentarily bucketed there as well. That leaves dram and Hiraki. And I'm not exactly willing to let demonic go to limlo.

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Alright, if everyone thinks I'm crazy then maybe I'm crazy.

UNVOTE: dramonic

Reevaluating.

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Hadn't realized it'd been two days.

Someone fucking do something.

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"I don't want them to be scum so I'm not going to scum read them" is really fucking lazy, guys.

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On chkflip himself, 1893 feels like bragging. 1989 feels like fearmongering. I don't really like either of these from town!chkflip.

How tf can that be bragging when most of that happened before I was even in the game?

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Ah, just looked back. I was here. That's funny.

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If it helps with people's reads you're more than welcome to knock me off. We don't need too many questionables in limlo.

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I would heavily suggest no elim tomorrow though to make it true limlo.

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Hadn't realized it'd been two days.

Someone fucking do something.

You said you were re-evaluating. What did you come up with?

Nothing. I still think it's dram. Nothing else makes sense to me.

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Mar, lining up lynches is a scum tell y/n?

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Depends on the context. In previous games I, as scum, have seen others, as town, do it and get called out for it. I can see why it can be a scumtell - only scum know if there will be a next day or not - but it's a fine line between lining up for an elimination and asserting a solve. Also, isn't pushing for no elim tomorrow the same deal?

Pushing for a no elim when it's the obvious play isn't even remotely the same thing as lining up lynches? What are you even on about, bud? Take your fucking blinders off for half a second and come back to me.

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Oh man developing a town read on someone you were just voting. Sus af.



Have you tried stand up? This shit is hilarious.

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I don't think it's Penguin. Mostly gut.

Hiraki doesn't make sense.

Mar is cleared.

People don't want dramonic.

VOTE: Almost50

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Actally. Yo, dram. Remember the "partner vote in rvs" tell?

As you can tell, I didn't read the OP

Bad practice

VOTE: TripleHaven

Floats on that for the longest, then an

actual

showing of LAMIST.

VOTE: A50

VOTE: a50

VOTE: A50

I trust you two

Then, when questioned on his shit, ezpz townpoints.

Almost get your ass back on Jake.
@Dann: Who said I was playing in good faith?

VOTE: Jake

Note: I want RCE more now though

It's definitely 50. My bad dram. I should read more often.

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It's strange that you can come in and straight face an "it was a serious vote" when, at the time (per usual and by your own admittance), you weren't seriously engaging in the game.

I’d like to see crush slot post and I still want to hear from dunn and A50

I know this is the same session (at least for me) but I want you to NOT expect much from me at this time still. You know well (ar at least should) that I don't enter the game guns blazing (unless I am a replacement who got it with lots of substance readily available). You should be happy I am -at least- not meme'ing and shitposting enough. My mind is "elsewhere" for now, but I am "watching from the sideline" and will probably jump in sometime soon.

So tell us again that it was a serious vote with some actual evidence this time, hm?

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Can you read between the brackets? It was a Semi-Serious vote (as serious as you can get on PAGE ONE).

Read between the brackets.

1- That wasn't RVS. It was a legit vote.

It started with y vote on him in RVS (which was semi-serious). Not reading the OP is bad and especially so coming from someone who is "new to the site". Then I didn't like his tone and his responses strike me as manufactured (as in.. text book responses). I don't have a better target to vote right now, and I like dram for town, so this is where I want my vote to be still.

So, it wasn't RVS in 2088 but it was in 431.

It was a legit vote in 2088 but it was only semi-serious in 431.

You make no mention of how legitimate or semi-serious this vote is in over 400 posts of gameplay.

How

convincing

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@Chk: If you wanna use that tell I'm a WW

Forgot to kick this earlier.

We both know that's not how the tell works. It's not

every

vote, just the ones that one can look back on later and go "hmm."

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For the townpoints? For the memes? For the WIFOM you just inserted? C'mon dude. You're not even trying at this point.

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Nice.

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I'm going to be v upset if I have to deal with you peckerheads for two more day phases tbh.

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Negative. We no elim tomorrow. I will fight for that.

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Then we no elim again. They won't happy ending. No balls.

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Nope.

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Oh my b.

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Nice.

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It's funny that chkflip won his townread for me through sheer lunacy

Excuse you.

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(albeit we didnt really have one of those)

Rude.

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IT WOULD'VE BEEN A SOLID PLAY YOU HO.

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You're both pretty. Knock it off.