Micro 962: Geriatric Trio II (Town Victory)

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game's too easy

VOTE: AGar

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game's too easy

VOTE: AGar

First of all, how dare you....

Second.

VOTE: Porkens

oh fuck, sorry, you're right

VOTE: Porkens

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VOTE: sou and Kama I'm rvsing datisi. Also I think it would be productive to play chess peppered in to some stuff and to randomize color I will use dice and then basically do my first move if I am white and if I'm black then I'll assume you just go e4 and respond with c5

Original Roll String: 1d2 (STATIC)

1 2-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

1 I'm w and 2 I'm b
d4
e4 c5 so white if it's not e4 then you can choose a different first move if you want and also this should be considered an open chellenge so anyone who wants to battle me chess can

ok well i fucking hate this

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hello friends, i am back! seeing how this game is very active and how everyone is so eagar to post, i have decided to make a detailed readslist that will hopefully accurately reflect my current feelings on the gamestate!

Michael Scott (Auro + volxen)

- this slot is locktown in my eyes. their entrance (in post 5) is brimming with a relaxed, confident tone that is never seen in players of the scum alignment. posts like 13 and 20 show a great will to solve the game and a profound analysis of the gamestate that can only come from an uninformed perspective. and the brilliance of 21 can only come from someone pure of heart. if anyone were to ever vote for this slot to be executed, i'd wonder if that person is purposefully trying to throw the game.

Bingle

- bingle is my second most confident townread. his early posts 6 and 15 show a deep interest in this game's mechanical side, which is something i have personally only ever seen from bingle when he was aligned with the town. the confidence and passion with which he presents his reads in 15 make me strongly believe it's coming from a genuine place.

clidd

- while the number of universes in which clidd is aligned with the mafia is non-zero, i highly doubt that we are living in one of them. his opening in post 10 is very very similar to his one of his early posts in Micro 941 in which his slot was aligned with the town. based on what's happened so far, i have no reason to doubt his alignment is not the same this game.

Porkens

- this one is tricky. while post 8 by itself, as funny as it is, is not alignment indicative, when looked at the full picture, i do conclude it is indicative of porkens being town more often than not. what led me to that conclusion is the fact that i can draw some obvious parallels between porkens's play this game and his play in Why Gun?? - namely posting one big "memey" post then disappearing. the reason this is somewhat town!indicative is because porkens was aligned with the mafia in the aforementioned game, and based on what's happened so far, i have no reason to think scum!porkens would repeat the same play.

AGar

- dead null. i have nothing on this guy.

Kmd4390

- looking at their ISO, they're a scumlean of mine. while post 7 is NAI, post 22 reads like blatant fake dumbtelling to me. "what even is this thread", we're playing mafia, silly! i doubt you didn't know that, though.

xReckonerX

- i think it's very likely reckoner is aligned with the mafia. my train of thought is that in 9 he voted against agar with a comment "game's too easy", implying he's already solved agar's slot and that agar is mafia. however, in his next post in 12, he changes his vote to porkens. this makes me think that the earlier confidence and bravado of 9 is fake and fabricated, which is scum!indicative. also, as my hydra partner's already observed, why did you quote the chess post.

bugspray

- unfortunately, i think this is another game where bugs rolled scum against me. post 16 offers nothing game related, and i know scum!bugs struggles to make game-related content. and since then, bugs has suspiciously gone quiet, not even responding to the chess move in 21. i'm sorry you rolled scum again, bugs.

Sou and Kanna (Datisi + Kanna)

- this is obvscum. kill it with fire.

okay, that's all for now! i will be back later!

~sou

before i care too much how serious are these reads on a scale of 1-10

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so ok then

NUMBER ONE:
if u were to read the actual thread, i quoted it to express how much i hate the fact it exists and is being done in this game

VOTE: sou and Kama I'm rvsing datisi. Also I think it would be productive to play chess peppered in to some stuff and to randomize color I will use dice and then basically do my first move if I am white and if I'm black then I'll assume you just go e4 and respond with c5

Original Roll String: 1d2 (STATIC)

1 2-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

1 I'm w and 2 I'm b
d4
e4 c5 so white if it's not e4 then you can choose a different first move if you want and also this should be considered an open chellenge so anyone who wants to battle me chess can

ok well i fucking hate this

it is
LITERALLY
in the post right before you guys questioned me about it???

i'm very confused about this line of questioning???

NUMBER TWO:

game's too easy

VOTE: AGar

u said this post was "fake and fabricated" confidence & bravado
and im...not sure how to break this to u...

...it was a joke RVS post. agar HAD NOT EVEN FUCKING POSTED YET

are you fr right now?

VOTE: S&K

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Reckoner -> Ignorance in post 29 when referring to post 23, bad tone in general. I'm evaluating whether this is linked to his profile baseline.

i dont know who sou & kanna are, and in reading their read on me, it seemed so on-its-face ridiculous that i thought there was a good chance it was a joke

can you elaborate on "bad tone"

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I haven't checked your history yet, but if your profile indicates this type of behavior as default, then I will have to change my approach to read you. It would be good to me if you try to facilitate this process.

meta is trash, don't bother

i'm a fairly spicy, caustic asshole irl though so

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okay, i'm going to cut this off before it goes too far and becomes a needless distraction.

@reck, i thought the fact i linked

the playerlist

in answering your question about my readslist would be enough of a hint that it's not a serious reading. take a long look at 1, then at 23. you're being awfully defensive very quickly. VOTE: reckoner

so...it was an exercise in showing that you guys can fake reads on people? or what?

i'm so confused.

was it a """""""""""""""joke""""""""""""""""""""?

Agar / Bugspray -> They ignored post 23 and voted regardless of the observations that SK (I'll use this acronym now) made.

I literally fucking quoted the post you're referencing you dolt.

On the issue of the currently running Chess Minigame, I will allow it to continue if it is done solely within "spoiler=" tabs. It is distracting to the game and has no place in a Geriatric.

Thank you for your cooperation in making this game fun for everyone!

Can we just not have it at all? I specifically looked forward to this game so I didn't have to trudge through as much inane bullshit but allowing a fucking chess game, spoilers or not, is going to make me seriously regret this, because I guarantee someone is going to fuck up a spoiler tag and there's going to be naked posts that are only the chess game at some point.

42 - What the fuck is this horseshit? This is :badposting: and is super contrived.

49 serves what purpose, exactly?

alexander, be careful. clidd will read your hostility as "bad tone"

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actual thoughts so far, these arent a meme, i promise

michael scott- idk the post restriction is weird, i have a hard time reading hydras, i think it's a slight scum read bc after reading 3 pages of the game i have no idea what the fuck theyve done or contributed even tho they have the most posts so far
bingle- town read. the chess match stuff felt like real frustration. not much to go on, so this is a slight townread.
clidd- the "bad tone" read on me is weird. the hard defense of s&k is weird -- especially considering the revelation that S&K were "joking" with their post. the whole reads list in 33 feels weird. and then the follow up to basically say "i read you bad unless meta says youre good" feels like an easy scum out.
porkens- town lean. i dont like the obtuse nature of the way he words his posts, but i don't think it's coming from a scum motivated place. offering thoughts freely without being prompted, feels town.
agar- not sure. positive, he went all in on S&K which i think was a town move at that point. negative, his posts have an air of hostility and frustration that i dont think is warranted on page 3 when he hasnt been under fire.
kmd4390- what has he even done? but said he wont be around until thurs. still dont like it much. we'll see.
bugspray- the chess shit was annoying. but i like his 38. mostly because he calls me town. which im making a note for myself means he could slip into my blindspot. but i dont ever worry about blindspots until they become a potential liability.
s&k- i think my points on S&K are clear

so right now, i think clidd/s&k has a good chance of having scum in it. im fine with my vote where it is

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i clearly stated intent and asked a question about reads
your partner said yes, these reads are serious
i gave my reads
then i get the other half of the hydra being like WHOA BRO IT'S JUST A JOKE

this is just reason #8747120 i hate hydras. but also, ive asked what the expectation was of that joke, and yall have said nothing so far

feels a bit like scum trying to fuck around and then using hydra advantage to be like "haha jk idk man"
answer my question

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I don't agree with the sou wagon. The reads list was clearly fabricated, but it was designed to fit the order of the playerlist. I don't see reck as scum for not realizing it though. Having a problem with fabricated reads isn't scummy.

thank you for getting the joke, i suppose? i don't think "not realizing it's the playerlist order" in itself is scummy. but the huge defense that followed in 31? and accusing us of abusing hydra advantages in 66? (which btw, how am i doing that??) do you have an opinion on any of that? or like on anything that's happened so far?

~sou

what about my post 31 was defending anything about the "joke read list" debacle? at that point i still thought it was real. how am i defending it?
and yes, i stand by the hydra thing, though i don't think it makes you scum necessarily. one slot being able to have dissonant reads/behavior/etc muddies the waters too much, it's why i hate hate hate hydras. because anytime you get caught in something, your other half can just swoop in and hand wave it all away.

reck, i am also telling you that the readlist is a joke. i literally quoted the mod post with the playerlist order in answering your question. i called myself obvscum in it for fuck's sake. are you purposefully being dense?

at what point after your explanation of a joke have i continued to say that it's not a joke? go ahead and show me. ill wait patiently.

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i cannot parse this

• you post something dumb
  
• i ask if it's serious
  
• you say yes (which isn't serious)
  
• i miss the subtle "humor" and explain why what you posted is dumb
  
• you come back and say it's just a joke wtf man
  
• i ask what the point of the joke was
  
• you ignore it
  
• i say using hydra play to defuse any pressure on the slot is scummy
  
• you respond by saying again that the readlist is a joke and ask if im being dense
  
• i ask you to explain where i've denied that it is a joke

at this point i feel like *i* moved past "was it a joke or not" as of like, bullet point number 5 above. i moved onto other questions, angles, concerns, reads. and you're still here with the last post in the exchange being like "wtf bro it's only a joke" and i feel like i'm listening to a broken record.

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Guys, KMD is scum.

I played as scum vs town!him and my tone was basically the same I'm using here (which is why Porkens is scumreading me, because he also played as town in the same game) but KMD is kind of ignoring me.

Town!Kmd would look at my posts and vote instantly on me.

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The meltdown feels incredibly performative and AtE. I don't think anything done or said so far in this game warranted such melodrama

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I don't think you're an empathetic person, Reck.

So your interpretive error is understandable. I imagine that Agar comes to the same conclusion as you.

But I confess that I would be able to do drama as scum, but not to the point of suggesting self-elimination.

this has nothing to do with empathy and has everything to do with the way you went from neutral to breaking down and suggesting a vote on yourself like a switch flipped
but your subtle condescension is duly noted

there's no natural progression

you just went "i have meta on kmd, vote him"

people responded to you. specifically porkens responded by re-explaining his read on you (that you had misrepped), and in response, you throw your hands up and say we should just lynch you because every person who is voting for you is voting for "bad reasons"

yet you make no attempt to engage with those "bad reasons" to make any headway. you just condescend to people to discredit them

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SORRY FOR V/LA

work is an absolute bitch this week trying to get ready for taking PTO starting friday so ill be touch and go until then

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work is literally killing me, but i go on PTO starting TOMORROW so i plan to read the last 3 or so pages then

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catching up from page 6:
kinda like bulge's entry into the game. feels town. naked vote on bingle, eh, not so much.

clidd's whole response to my reasons on voting for him basically amounts to "yep, youre right" so im pretty fine with my vote being there? esp after the awful self meta in 140

agar being coy about why porkens vote is weird and bad!

volxen presses clidd on agar's posts and in response clidd emptyquotes agar's iso and asks volxen what he sees. this isn't how burden of proof works. what is happening.

bingle arguing that porkens putting effort into one post means every post should have that level of effort feels like an incredibly bad faith argument? like, the argument that porkens attacked an early post he saw as he read the game instead of reading in full and then prioritizing what to comment on feels absurd. i say, as i'm doing exactly what porkens did in my catchup rn.

agar's 187 is :goodposting: and feels like it's coming from a genuine place. i also like that im in the "do not yeet" pile, though i'm curious how bingle ended up in there. "I'm coming around on Bingle" doesn't really explain it for me bud

MS is very town, like the pressure and line of questioning they're pursuing. i don't love bingle's response to the SK vote where he tells MS "SK isn't the vote for today". uh, why not?? and bingle follows this up by going "what are your thoughts on the REST OF THE GAME" and im like..........you don't get to just shut down a wagon on a slot and then put the onus on OTHER PEOPLE to find alternatives. u wanna defend a slot, defend it.

S&K pick up on the weird "coming around on Bingle" line from agar. the response "i think it's pretty self-evident": this ain't it, fam. oof

porkens is damn near lock town for me at this point. find myself hard agreeing with most of his posts and the frenetic vote/unvote on bingle last page is a place ive been as town and know exactly what was going through his brain.

bingle has done some weird stuff that i need to get my head around more, and he's sitting in the scum bin, but like, the way he sees the game is just night and day from where i am. porkens might be my strongest town read and yet bingle is scumreading him. i just do not see the case or anything scum indicative there, he's hanging it all on this "you analyzed post #4" thing??

clidd shows up to remind me that he's scummy at least, so thanks for that. funny how ive been downgraded to not in his town list...when ive been VLA and not posting. feels like manufactured "progression" doesn't it

ANYWAY.

IM GETTING ON A MEETING RIGHT NOW SO CUTTING THIS HERE HAVE A READSLIST

TOWN
Michael Scott
Porkens
The Bulge
AGar
Sou and Kanna
Kmd4390
Bingle
clidd
SCUM

[xRECKONERx]

my bulge thing is more that he hasn't done anything egregious whereas i can point to things other people have done

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huh. i have literally never in my life announced when a vote i was making put someone at E-1? is that a commonly expected thing?

this is just bizarre...if someone "accidentally" hammered them, why wouldn't the blame be on

the person hammering

rather than porkens??

also i have a great joke for you all
what do u call people who take care of chickens

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^ A chicken tender.

yes it was this

can you explain what this means

LS Reckoner for previous post in which he put town at the bottom of his list and put bingle right above it.

bc i assume that's why you're voting for me and i don't know what LS means

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I don’t care what you role pm says, that pun makes you 100% scum.

this is the most reasonable reason to vote for me that i've ever seen

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i'm very drunk and wont be doing this tonight sry

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i plan to catch up today. promise. last night i had a post typed up and then fell asleep at my computer lol

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ok i'm here and i'm reading

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i have 0% idea what most of porkens posts have meant as of late. is he drunk?

@reck, you still scumreading us, or? had us in the middle of your reads but your vote is still glued on

i mean, you're exactly where i said you were in the middle of the pack. likely won't be my vote today, i just had to slam out that reads list and press submit before going to a meeting.

Kmd, Bulge, Reck and Agar is your elim pool?
Could you articulate your feels?

- bingle is reminding me a lot of town!him i've seen, the reasons he's given about his read on my slot make sense to me, i can follow his thoughts in the game and also he looks much better in the bingle/kmd interaction
- i'm sheeping kanna on porkens, she'll be around later i think (i'm vaguely vaguely +town on porkens for playing differently than in Why Gun but gut tells me that game wasn't the epitome of porkens!scumplay)
- MS is like, showing some Decent attempts at sorting us (pending response) and also enough people are townreading them that i see they're not happening day one anyway
- clidd was towny at first, then weird, but the weirdness was so out of anything i've seen from scum!clidd, also your entrance was Fine

also excluding myself for obvious reaosns, that leaves those 4

preference for kmd (like just read that interaction with bingle), then bulge (i've spoken about bugs already, and bulge hasn't swept me off my feet either)

~sou

why did you not mention me at all when bell specifically asked about me?

Do you know what is horrible.
I only just realized that Reck's avatar is a blue dick. With He-Man hair and a pink coat.

wow you know nothing of the legend of SUNNY?



the bingle/kmd back and forth is weird... kmd looks like he's ducking questions, but he's doing it in such a PAINFULLY obvious way that i can't see how he'd be scum? i know "too scummy to be scum" is a fallacy but i think this falls outside of that.

VOTE: The Bulge
It's not to do with the origin story. It's just I think you're trying to be likable and I don't think your perspective is quite on the level in terms of reads.
Sorry if wrong and we could have built a town block and been best buddies forever. Lost opportunities.

i intensely dislike this vote esp. since bell didn't engage at all with the kmd/bingle thing and started his own wagon separately? like not even a comment.

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VOTE: Bell

given prior slot interactions + avoidance of kmd/bingle + push on bulge im most confident here today

i know we are <24hrs till deadline so i will compromise if i can't get votes here but i feel kinda strongly about this

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@Bingle: I don't see much of a reason why KMD is scum. I don't see much in the way of scum motivation in his posts.

The scum motivation is active lurking. He RVS voted me and just kind of sat there while the wagon grew. When confronted about it, he made up a bunch of shit. When confronted about said shit, he ducked every question and dug his heels in while spouting a false narrative to try to get me eliminated. There's been no attempt to form a real read on me or he'd have known that all of the shit he's been spouting is shit.

Reck used the phrase "too scummy to be scum" but that's a bullshit reason to townread someone. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck I'm not going to assume it's a witch. Even if he is town, he's proven to me thoroughly he's not interested in actually solving the game and is at best a liability that I will shed 0 tears over.

That's not all though. From a wagonomics perspective, why would town KMD be this hard to eliminate? He's provably lying about his attempts to sort, at least as regards me, literally the only slot he's voted. For some reason, despite all the shit he's pulled to get support for a disingenuous wagon on me and despite me pushing hard for his elimination, no one wants to pursue him.


As far as Bell goes, Reck, you're gonna have to convince me harder than that. 33 shows that 23 obviously went over clidd's head. If they were scum together, I'd expect literally anything other than that response. If clidd scum and S&K town, I wouldn't expect clidd to bother with an analysis of where he agreed with S&K, especially in the immediate wake of you pointing out that he had 'serious reads' on people who hadn't even posted yet and two other people jumping on S&K for being scummy. Porkens brought up that his longer posts read as awkward (and was right) but as he switched to spamposting he came across as more and more natural. This leads me to believe the awkwardness was from trying to change his posting style to match the geriatric format and thus not AI, and I feel the timing of the replace out reinforces that.

I also think the slayer's gambit in 97 and the paranoia about people townreading him are both >rand town. 111 where he just kind of gives up also seems more town than not to me, and I agreed (then and now) that the wagon on S&K wasn't pure. More than that, it read as genuine. Even while giving up, though, he still did what he could to put thoughts in the thread and be productive. Bell's been pushing for content, although he's done nothing I don't think he'd be able to fake. I kind of liked his scumread but wait and see stance with me (it gets none of the towncred and all of the suspicion of actually pushing me when/if I flip, but also doesn't really advance the agenda of actually flipping me). I'm also not sure what Bulge has done that made him so town pushing him is scummy fypov and don't think Bulge presents as an easy elimination in any sense so I don't think the bulge push is all that objectionable.

okay, i dont choose to convince you harder than that bc tbh i am not sure you're actually town? idk. it's 330am and im drunk and the response to my points on clidd being "convince me harder" arent exactly compelling for me.

the bingle/kmd back and forth is weird... kmd looks like he's ducking questions, but he's doing it in such a PAINFULLY obvious way that i can't see how he'd be scum? i know "too scummy to be scum" is a fallacy but i think this falls outside of that.

What do you mean “falls outside that”?

~kanna

i mean that i think "too scum to be scum" is an easy thing to toss in here, but the extent to which kmd is ducking questions feels like way too far outside of the realm of "expectable scum play" and has entered a zone of "ok this is something to grasp onto"

VOTE: Bell

given prior slot interactions + avoidance of kmd/bingle + push on bulge im most confident here today

i know we are <24hrs till deadline so i will compromise if i can't get votes here but i feel kinda strongly about this

These are...not good reasons tbh

~k

what more do you have, exactly

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Vote Bingle

I won't be around much if at all til Thursday evening. I have to work because I'm important.

This was a crumb. I work at a prison. Im the jailkeeper.

i don't buy this at all buti also don't want the real JK to claim if kmd is lying.

how is it a crumb to mention work?? i know you work at a prison, that much is true, but this does not feel like a "crumb" to me, it feels like a comment you made about going to work that you are now trying to backpedal into being a breadcrumb

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i am not claiming

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Thanks for the save, KMD.

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VOTE: Sou & Kanna

I'm def. not scum but if scum wanna waste time no killing tonight to frame me then that's only good for town so I don't really give a fuck

[xRECKONERx]

yeah totally in favor of a fast night btw

[xRECKONERx]

Well it's not me, so scum are no killing. Assuming KMD jailed me and didn't try to mindgame though I'm the only logical choice to clear this outta the system

[xRECKONERx]

Any thoughts on who's evil enough to do that?
@Reck.

no idea

im getting free of this game though so

VOTE: Reck

gl yall

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yeah, sucked to get basically randomly chosen. we were on a 50/50 flip between whether me or S&K should submit the kill N1.
setup overall feels a little town sided? like we got lucky town imploded D1 but in such a small game, JK has so much utility