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Post Post #96 (isolation #0) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:39 pm

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*wakes up to 4 pages of text*

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Post Post #117 (isolation #1) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:48 pm

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Listen I know some of you played with scum!me

... but this is town!me

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I like to annoy people
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also PAGETOP
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Post Post #128 (isolation #4) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:51 pm

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In post 108, Ydrasse wrote:shelly is a pure soul
thank you very much

I'm eternally part of town

pedit me neither who is posting that much
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Post Post #130 (isolation #5) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:52 pm

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In post 113, PlusJOYED wrote:I think shelly just likes to bully me considering ... well she knows :c
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Post Post #136 (isolation #6) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:54 pm

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In post 132, Menalque wrote:Okay ydrasse and Shelly are both pure souls
those are gigantic pockets, rising star
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Post Post #138 (isolation #7) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:55 pm

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thanks for giving me a shiny townpass
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Post Post #142 (isolation #8) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:58 pm

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early thoughts:

IV is town
PlusJoy is town
teacher's profile pic scares me
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Post Post #151 (isolation #9) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:00 pm

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Ydrasse is town aligned because I have a good vibe from them

plusjoy is town since they're playing like 2023 and they seem sincere

IV is town as their profile pic gives me a good vibe (and they townpassed me)

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Post Post #153 (isolation #10) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:01 pm

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I am getting gut townpings from them

maybe because of the avi
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Post Post #157 (isolation #11) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:06 pm

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In post 154, innocentvillager wrote:i agree with all of this so Shelly is town
Scum PT:
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Post Post #183 (isolation #12) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:18 pm

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im having a scum vibe from teacher
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Post Post #192 (isolation #13) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:21 pm

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discredting someone for voting second post is... fine logic I guess?

ydrasse has an obvious townie mindset
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Post Post #199 (isolation #14) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:23 pm

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my gut reads null of saudade

you’re posting a ton
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Post Post #203 (isolation #15) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:24 pm

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SMH GUYS

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Post Post #226 (isolation #16) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:32 pm

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for example?

hopefully we hard align this game plusjoy

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Post Post #228 (isolation #17) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:39 pm

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IV has a town vibe

"I agree with all of this" is cheesy though

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Post Post #231 (isolation #18) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:24 pm

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If you are looking for a towngame read newbie 2025.

that's my one and only towngame

I have pure scum energy
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Post Post #232 (isolation #19) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:25 pm

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unfortunately I rolled town this game

which is sad since being scum is real fun

nvm even in my chat mafia days I always got SR as town
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your Mena read is weird; being self aware is a scumtell but you seem to just wifom it
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Post Post #235 (isolation #21) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:29 pm

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My own solve is Taylor / Mena / teacher

TR Ydrasse / IV / plusjoy

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I don't like sheeping

I don't like being self aware

and I don't like dark avis
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Post Post #237 (isolation #23) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:31 pm

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to be serious my SR on teacher is pure gut

so is the TR on IV

let me dive in IV's ISO real quick
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I see they are super agreeable, alludes to how I played in 2019 a lot

plusjoy is obvtowning imo early readslist is a plus *cough* and this is also a meta read
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Post Post #242 (isolation #25) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:39 pm

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pure gut

just pure gut

and respone to early wagon doesn't ping town either
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omfg I am not a mafia god.

I respect your kerset read but I can't get a read off them yet

VOTE: PlusJoy :) sup
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VOTE: PlusJoy

PUSH IT TO E-1

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Post Post #251 (isolation #29) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:47 pm

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btw PAGETOP
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In post 249, PlusJOYED wrote:TR into vote me anyway
The greatest of combos
this is a very town reaction to me I like this
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Post Post #257 (isolation #31) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:49 pm

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My gut just likes it

it would also be protown to point it out
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Post Post #261 (isolation #32) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:50 pm

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UNVOTE: PlusJoyVOTE: Taylor

time to pressure things into happening

I don't like taylor here
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wow wtf sheeping my ydrasse townread

plusjoy do not sheep me thank you
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I'm not scumhunting purely by emotion

regarding my taylor read I don't like 12 (claiming mason after saudade) and 149 (sounding like they want others to agree)
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Saudade's posting reads fairly town to me

the emotion and motive is on point
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Post Post #270 (isolation #36) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:57 pm

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night saudade

plusjoy what do you reckon about my slot now? why are you lazily nullbinning me when i've posted things
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treestumps are very much non-normal
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Post Post #273 (isolation #38) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:04 pm

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didn't you say "feels like her scumgame"

contradiction
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what did I say to make you TR me

the pocket feels comfy
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In post 279, innocentvillager wrote:what does this mean
look at

like the case on kerset as well, going against the majority opinion
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In post 282, osuka wrote:
In post 250, shellyc wrote:INTENT TO HAMMER ON PLUSJOYED
the way you’re playing this game is giving me brain damage
I was reaction testing.
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PlusJoy attacking IV yet IV returning a TR on PlusJoy doesn't feel great

IV TMI-ing knowing plus is town and IV is scum?

IV is looking scummier by the minute I do not like 276

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If someone scumcases me I am compelled to defend myself and/or point out the flaws in the person making the case

despite being SR by town!plusjoy scum!IV instead attempts to pocket them in order to convince plusjoy to get off them
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In post 300, Ydrasse wrote:also, shelly, you've had iv as a townread for the majority of the day so far; what was the turning point for you, so to speak, to move away from that?
Around post I began backtracking
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In post 307, PlusJOYED wrote:I can see how you would see the discrepancy as being AI but in reality I just learned a lot from that first game and gained more confidence in my reads since they turned out pretty close. It's NAI but you don't have to believe me.
IMO confidence is a scumtell

being confident indicates that you are sure about your reads

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Post Post #313 (isolation #46) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:59 pm

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I am not backtracking on my plus TR yet

they are quite self aware and paranoid
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Post Post #316 (isolation #47) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:01 pm

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look at my completed games

i post in a very sure attitude and it's not AI

indicates that they agree with my TR on them and instead of adding anything to it they just latch on and do nothing else.
says "only read TR" without a real explanation
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Post Post #318 (isolation #48) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:03 pm

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says I think their play was similar to my playthrough of 2019 (my first ever scumgame and first game in general)
I was very agreeable and sheeped many reads

btw the posts you list were BEFORE I read their ISO. before that I went with my gut and after that I started analysing things in detail
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Post Post #319 (isolation #49) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:03 pm

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your decision

my pure townie energy will shine through
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Post Post #321 (isolation #50) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:05 pm

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I highlghted the post that made me change my mind

not the time that I began changing my mind

is that a problem though?
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Post Post #324 (isolation #51) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:11 pm

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I have a join date of 2020 yet you apply wifom to me :)

I take that as a compliment

this is not the mafia discussion forum though
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Post Post #327 (isolation #52) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:14 pm

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plusjoy's readslist says they think I am acting scummy but they townbinned me due to them thinking I have a "knack of appearing townie as scum"
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Post Post #334 (isolation #53) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:22 am

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333 literally agrees with all the majority town views

many have stated that ydrasse is obvtowning
"don't really get reasoning" is fence-sitting imo
voting taylor agrees with me and plus' thoughts
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Post Post #335 (isolation #54) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:23 am

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not saying that's a very AI thing but agreeing with others does not help us scumhunt
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Post Post #340 (isolation #55) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:42 am

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how would it say anything when everyone lazily sheeps the protown view
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Post Post #341 (isolation #56) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:43 am

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*the prevailing town view
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Post Post #343 (isolation #57) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:49 am

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interesting mafia theory

sometimes the prevailing view is correct

but having a different view indicates an independent thought process which gives us more to work with imo
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Post Post #353 (isolation #58) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:32 am

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how does ydrasse feel scum to you? I think they're fairly obvtown at this point
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Post Post #558 (isolation #59) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:37 pm

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In post 400, Menalque wrote:
In post 235, shellyc wrote:My own solve is Taylor / Mena / teacher
Is this a teamsolve or just three top individual scumreads?
In post 401, Menalque wrote:Wait Shelly are you an alt?
it is 3 top SR-s at the moment
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Post Post #559 (isolation #60) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:42 pm

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In post 428, innocentvillager wrote:yeah actually mena/plus might be TvT
how are you sure that two people confused with each others' thoughts are TvT?
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Post Post #560 (isolation #61) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:43 pm

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In post 439, Ydrasse wrote:i think it’d be nice if taylor actually posted a few thoughts/reads + i also don’t know if they’re the type of person who would like. respond to pressure at all
taylor seems to be posting
[elsewhere]
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Post Post #561 (isolation #62) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:44 pm

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In post 445, Ydrasse wrote:i was mulling over it earlier and i am okay with how shelly responded to me last night
????? what makes you think that?!
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Post Post #562 (isolation #63) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:50 pm

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In post 497, PlusJOYED wrote:saudade feels like he's been trying to isolate himself from the get go but I don't interpret that as AI
I regard that as town!saudade, the hot take of kerset is interesting
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Post Post #569 (isolation #64) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:54 pm

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quick readthrough

taylor prodging
teacher better vibes
ydrasse pure town energy: open, flexible, and spontaneous. Solid gold town mindset.
plusjoy: huge null confident but very confusing thoughts
menalque: I agree something is off but idk what is and it's probably not AI
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Post Post #573 (isolation #65) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:55 pm

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what is the problem with early reads? do you want the game to leave RVS or not
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Post Post #593 (isolation #66) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:26 am

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well you should generally claim ascetic

"don't really get reasoning" seems like you're afraid to just directly scumcase and call them out.
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Post Post #594 (isolation #67) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:28 am

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In post 577, Tayl0r Swift wrote:the problem isnt having reads. the problem for me is pretending theyre rock solid. the "this is my solve on page 5" isnt really gamesolvy or driving the game forward. its just shitposting dressed up as scumhunting.
I never pretended or implied they were rock solid
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Post Post #597 (isolation #68) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:47 am

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wtf?!

this is half a prodge
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Post Post #728 (isolation #69) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:19 pm

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In post 619, Menalque wrote:Okay specifically I don’t get this read? Like I think these are all things (behaviourally) that scum ydrasse is just as capable of manifesting as town ydrasse, so idg how you’re moving from these into declaring her as like strong town with a strong town mindset

I think on balance she’s slightly town atm for her interrogation of you (like I felt her questions were coming from an uninformed perspective prob when she was trying to understand your trajectory and her re-evaluation was good too) but I don’t see how you’re getting to this level of confidence from what she’s done so far?
I read their scumgame and it's obviously different

I probably phrased it as a stronger read than I thoughts but they are still TR
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In post 623, Tayl0r Swift wrote:no youre scum! lets stop talking about it.
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In post 630, Ydrasse wrote:scum ydrasse could probably do it now that she’s learned a bit more about playing scum
self meta is trash
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Post Post #731 (isolation #72) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:20 pm

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In post 636, Menalque wrote:Like I think ydrasse is +town as things stand, but not for stuff to do with her tone or having a “generally townie mindset” or whatever the reason was
I consider the questioning of me as a town mindset
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Post Post #733 (isolation #73) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:23 pm

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In post 688, Andresvmb wrote:Like these posts stick out to me. There’s an admission that being Scum is more fun (which squares with posting outside of this game), there’s a lot of comments on how their reads are very much gut based (with some clear posting as to how she intends to find Scum - confidence and apparent self-awareness being up there), and a weird flip on plusJOYED which she was TR previously. Does any of this strike you as Scum? Because I’m not seeing it.
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Post Post #734 (isolation #74) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:26 pm

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plusjoy weirdly flexes town towards IV

im confused by that read
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Post Post #764 (isolation #75) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:04 pm

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In post 759, Kerset wrote:my life wasted on reading 2023
are you going to share your thoughts about the readthrough or what
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Post Post #767 (isolation #76) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:13 pm

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wait what lol

[insert my 2023 ISO]
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so scum are probably bussing taylor now

im null on kerset maybe a teensy scumlean? not contributing much nor having a solving mindset but idk I like their tone
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Post Post #819 (isolation #78) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:10 pm

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Admittedly I'm pivoting towards scum for IV

PlusJoy is town so far, my "pushing" of her and the reactions I got from it just served to solidify the TR

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Post Post #829 (isolation #79) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:13 pm

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how is 821 good enough

i feel like it can feasibly come from scum
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*but overall I am town on Ydrasse

their posting is protown the readslist is pretty much where I am right now
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out of {NDMath, Menalque} NDMath’s is RVS right?

I’d say mena and/or teacher are feasibly bussing here
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Post Post #841 (isolation #83) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:19 pm

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plusjoy scumleans on taylor without a vote

slight alarm bells
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ok I went away for a bit and y'all just go "shelly come back" wtf?
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In post 844, Ydrasse wrote:okay, so which one of those two do you think is scum then?
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Post Post #855 (isolation #86) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:27 pm

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In post 846, Ydrasse wrote:shelly i gotta admit 841 feels like deflection
how in the world does it sound like deflection
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Post Post #863 (isolation #87) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:31 pm

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uhhh maybe I just messed everything up...

IV is scumlean for literally agreeing with all the protown views, fence-sitting, and taking safe stances
I said mena and/or teacher doesn't mean mena / teacher / taylor is the solve

pedit I'm still a newbie ydrasse don't expect anything from me pls
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Post Post #867 (isolation #88) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:33 pm

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I said and/or means the possibility exists

I didn't state how much I thought the and possibility exists
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Post Post #869 (isolation #89) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:34 pm

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*which tbh I dont think is super likely at this stage

individually teacher null-leans-town when I read their ISO
and mena is just vibing but I like some of their reads
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Post Post #871 (isolation #90) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:35 pm

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In post 817, shellyc wrote:im null on kerset maybe a teensy scumlean? not contributing much nor having a solving mindset but idk I like their tone
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Post Post #872 (isolation #91) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:35 pm

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In post 870, Ydrasse wrote:also shelly then what do you feel is the likeliest possibility rn
I think scum!mena is more possible than scum!teacher
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Post Post #879 (isolation #92) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:39 pm

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pure town energy lands

496 points to scumpair of kerset / mena imo if one of them flip red...
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Post Post #915 (isolation #93) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:47 pm

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"slight alarm bells" does not mean an associative SR

it means if you flip scum I will look back at 841 and consider the possibility of you two being scumbuddies

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Post Post #929 (isolation #94) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:20 pm

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In post 927, Menalque wrote:Also can u answer this @shelly
I don't SR you as much right now tbh

that stream of consciousness was quite town
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Post Post #930 (isolation #95) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:21 pm

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but yeah something about mena just seems slightly off

I agree with some of your reads but I don't see the townie mindset
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Post Post #933 (isolation #96) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:22 pm

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In post 926, Menalque wrote:Okay but that’s not the same reasoning you gave in your readslist, you have a bunch of things about ydrasse generally and then extrapolated that she was town so which was it?
I factored in both things: general tone and emotion as well as their questioning and pushes
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Post Post #934 (isolation #97) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:27 pm

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In post 402, Menalque wrote:Teacher - townlean
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Kerset - null
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Firstly when I read this I didn't like plus and saudade scum (I don't know why you think it's impossible that town!plus posting exists)
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Kerset right in the middle is just... strange

I think the way you poke around questioning is indicative of scum trying to corner people. idk how to put it really
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Post Post #938 (isolation #98) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:39 pm

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this is my second towngame

please forgive me for messing up
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Post Post #942 (isolation #99) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:46 pm

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Explaining my read on menalque

#921 "I can’t understand as being from a town PoV" #935 "unlikely atp"
which is kinda contradictory

I consider it weird that kerset is in null since they literally did interact somewhat with saudade. And instead of generating content or defending themselves they just continue to shitpost which I consider SR

I think your questioning is cornering since 1) you're asking a LOT of questions which could be an attempt to deflect attention away from yourself and 2) idk your questions are quite direct somehow

I'm not saying you're being unreasonable and/or treating people badly, it's just the way you question people seem to set people up for slips

I could see Town!you feasibly do the same thing which is why im putting you at null zone atm
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Post Post #943 (isolation #100) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:47 pm

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Also I feel like taylor being a lurker and acting quite scummy, you would bus them for towncred since them going down (as they are a rather weak member of the scumteam in this gamestate) gives you a fair bit of credibility
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Post Post #944 (isolation #101) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:48 pm

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In post 939, Menalque wrote:Ironically the fact that he now seems to be trying to take the game more seriously and isn’t just memeing makes me more worried than if he’d just kept shitposting
doesn't more posting help you sort their alignment? Why are you concerned about saudade not shitposting? Seems counter-intuitive
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Post Post #953 (isolation #102) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:24 am

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In post 945, teacher wrote:Saud is in my (limited) experience, a lurker player who is tunneling people known to be lurky/late game in.
Well, I had no idea about saudade's meta
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Post Post #958 (isolation #103) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:35 am

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have fun mena!
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Post Post #974 (isolation #104) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:32 pm

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kerset still fluff posting

709 reads list only has two (2) SRs
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Post Post #1073 (isolation #105) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:06 pm

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@Mod V/LA till Wednesday, will be out of town


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Post Post #1093 (isolation #106) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:39 am

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quick check-in here

I've speedread things
teacher looks quite town
kerset's recent responses are a plus in terms of town points but im still leaning scum there
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Post Post #1168 (isolation #107) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:31 pm

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In post 1096, Andresvmb wrote:Shelly walk me through why you are assigning Town points to Kerset for recent responses.
because they feel town???

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Post Post #1169 (isolation #108) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:32 pm

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when teacher was onto them they stopped fluffposting and started creating content

I consider that a town response
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Post Post #1170 (isolation #109) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:33 pm

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i still don't really like kerset's taking safe stances

but at least they started doing /something/
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Post Post #1171 (isolation #110) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:35 pm

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In post 1165, Ydrasse wrote:i wish plusjoyed was around
is ydrasse currently TR'ing plusjoy?

cause I remember ydra scumleaned plus some time ago
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Post Post #1174 (isolation #111) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:13 am

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In post 1173, NDMath wrote:shelly's iso is much townier than I expected it to be.
????????????

I don't like this

NDMath being very apathetic here. 0 original content
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Post Post #1177 (isolation #112) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:25 am

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you're TMI'ing since scum!you knows I am town

I'm SR'ing you for similar reasons as teacher: not giving your thoughts, taking safe stances and not putting effort into scumhunting.
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Post Post #1178 (isolation #113) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:25 am

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"loose SR" with a "townie ISO" just two posts ago

weird flex
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Post Post #1265 (isolation #114) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:27 am

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@MOD I am back early from V/LA!


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Post Post #1266 (isolation #115) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:28 am

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In post 1262, Andresvmb wrote:And yeah this doesn’t count. “Creating content” while under pressure is not indicative of anything at all. That’s the thing about it. Literally anybody can do it.
imo scum under pressure would feel the need to relieve the pressure. Town would just continue scumhunting

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Post Post #1269 (isolation #116) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:36 am

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In post 1268, Andresvmb wrote:I’m trying to get more of an explanation out of shellyc. Because if they really do TR Kerset over creating content, but then are perfectly happy with their elimination, then that’s not a particularly strong TR yeah?
I listed them towards the end of my readslist

I never really TR them, it's like a scale where before they were -10 and now they're like -7
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Post Post #1270 (isolation #117) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:37 am

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In post 1267, Andresvmb wrote:And Town under pressure also feels the need to relieve said pressure and avoid being mis-executed a lot of the time. It’s why some people react with frustration and aggressiveness when they’re wrongly Scum Read. It happens all the time. That’s why “creating content” isn’t much of a reason to Town Read someone in my view. It’s pro-Town sure. Making yourself easier to read helps. But it can’t be the main reason you argue someone is Town in my view.
being protown helps town; scum does not strive to do protown things

also they created content and imo the content felt pretty town. the response could feasibly come from town but overall they are still scumlean on my scum radar as explained above.
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Post Post #1272 (isolation #118) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:44 am

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this is pretty town

throwing out thoughts that aren't quite polished gets townpoints

scum are appearance focused
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Post Post #1278 (isolation #119) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:52 am

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Note the rule on prodging.
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Andres you do not need to advise me on how to catch scum.

that being said I have had one (1) towngame.
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Post Post #1282 (isolation #121) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:56 am

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In post 1280, NDMath wrote:Remind me who or when he's pushed outside of kerset?
his single-minded insistence to push kerset and kerset only feels quite town

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Post Post #1283 (isolation #122) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:57 am

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NDMath still not providing a whole lot of takes which is disappointing at best and scummy at worst
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Post Post #1286 (isolation #123) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:02 am

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so you think scum!kerset wants town!you (relatively lurky) as todays mislim?

did I miss something? when did kerset push you

pedit: do you think the shading is AI? tbh meta / subtle comments aren't quite a worth SR
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #124) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:05 am

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In post 402, Menalque wrote:Okay so like I think I’m roughly at

Teacher - townlean
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Ydrasse - nulltown

Kerset - null
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Saudade - scumlean
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Plusjoy - scum
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mena how did you progress from null!kerset to scum!kerset?
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Post Post #1289 (isolation #125) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:07 am

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tbh I don't remember andres prominently having any takes so sorry for just tagging you as "lurker"
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Post Post #1294 (isolation #126) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:24 am

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im taking note of 1293 if kerset flips red

plusjoy's ISO is quite confusing

idk what to make of them
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Post Post #1295 (isolation #127) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:24 am

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In post 1291, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1272, shellyc wrote:this is pretty town

throwing out thoughts that aren't quite polished gets townpoints

scum are appearance focused
Was this in reference to the posts I quoted from Osuka?
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Post Post #1296 (isolation #128) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:25 am

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In post 720, PlusJOYED wrote:I changed my mind IV is obvtown
the read progression on iv just seems to change every day.

I feel my plus TR weaking
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Post Post #1297 (isolation #129) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:26 am

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*weakening

@plusjoy can I have your current, updated reads?
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Post Post #1299 (isolation #130) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:28 am

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In post 1287, shellyc wrote:mena how did you progress from null!kerset to scum!kerset?
I am very interested in this.
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Post Post #1303 (isolation #131) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:31 am

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lmfao

mena this isn't MD we can talk about reads postgame
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Post Post #1304 (isolation #132) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:32 am

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please don't ignore me

I'm interested in the readshift and E-1 since it feels a bit out of place
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #133) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:36 am

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ooooh ok PoE is cool

if kerset ends up red plusjoy's taylor pivot is very concerning
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Post Post #1310 (isolation #134) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:36 am

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ooooh ok PoE is cool

if kerset ends up red plusjoy's taylor pivot is very concerning
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Post Post #1312 (isolation #135) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:37 am

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teacher's avi distorts my gut.

imo their readslist is quite good but posting is quite shady tbh
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Post Post #1315 (isolation #136) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:38 am

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plusjoy's posting is *fluctuating*

some posts are super town and some are quite concerning to say the least

and I don't love the teacher SR
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Post Post #1319 (isolation #137) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:39 am

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also I dont get how you placed bob as top TR (were they ascetic claim? it's almost midnight and I can't think straight)

pedit: shady is anti-town but town could feasibly be shady.
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also when I say I don't like something
does not mean I disagree
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Post Post #1325 (isolation #139) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:41 am

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why does scum!osuka not pursue another wagon?

bussing for towncred is a fine play
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I better go to bed fast

people are posting crazy amounts
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Post Post #1330 (isolation #141) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:42 am

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Uhhh what stood out to you being especially scummy?

since I expect an explanation
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Post Post #1333 (isolation #142) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:42 am

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ydrasse can read my mind
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Post Post #1335 (isolation #143) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:42 am

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In post 1331, Menalque wrote:Is this pinging anyone else
scum radar isn't going squeak from that
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #144) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:42 am

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STOP POSTING A SHIT TON

wtf
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Post Post #1338 (isolation #145) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:43 am

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In post 1332, PlusJOYED wrote:scum osuka hop on taylor imo if kerset is red
teacher too probs
plusjoy making sweeping generalisations

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Post Post #1342 (isolation #146) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:44 am

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plusjoy im tired but serious

agreeable can come from town

pedit YDRA STOP POSTING WHAT I WANT TO POST AH
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Post Post #1343 (isolation #147) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:44 am

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ydrasse's thoughts are literally almost verbatim my thoughts
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Post Post #1344 (isolation #148) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:45 am

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In post 1341, Ydrasse wrote:also plus has made me go !? often this game so
this alludes to how I said their posting was confusing
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Post Post #1347 (isolation #149) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:45 am

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also plus just pivoted off the teacher scumcase

scum radar going squeak AGAIN
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Post Post #1349 (isolation #150) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:46 am

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plus / teacher is viable

plus SR's them but doesnt do a whole lot to sort them
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Post Post #1351 (isolation #151) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:46 am

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I can't think now

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Post Post #1353 (isolation #152) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:47 am

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ydrasse has literally the same mindset I have. idk if that's AI
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Post Post #1355 (isolation #153) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:48 am

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you did smh

QUOTE AND EXPLAIN RIGHT NOW
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Post Post #1356 (isolation #154) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:48 am

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sorry i just cannot think logically and am just randomly posting thoughts right now
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #155) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:49 am

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scum radar -7 on plus
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Post Post #1791 (isolation #156) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:01 pm

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holy moly

can y'all give me a tl;dr please there are 15 pages

did iv scumslip?
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Post Post #1794 (isolation #157) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:04 pm

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tbh finding whether someone is gated is probaby a scumslip

i cannot figure out why town would do that

mena is just being wack i don't see scum hard defending their slipped partner

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Post Post #1795 (isolation #158) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:04 pm

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the AtE is horrific

IV is probably just outed scum
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Post Post #1799 (isolation #159) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:10 pm

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In post 1796, Andresvmb wrote:I rescind my TR of Shelly.
are you going to scumread everyone that does not share your views
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hopped
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Post Post #1801 (isolation #161) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:11 pm

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PAGETOP
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Post Post #1802 (isolation #162) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 pm

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plusjoy might be opportunistic scum here

a lot of things they post is puzzling and makes me go ????
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Post Post #1804 (isolation #163) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:16 pm

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I'm town and you're wrong

I take that as yes
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Post Post #1805 (isolation #164) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:17 pm

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I have the full indestructible pure town energy

just case me. I dare you to case me. when are you going to keep making wrong SR's, until limlo?
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Post Post #1807 (isolation #165) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:20 pm

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NDMath doesn't look great disregarding the claim.

I don't get how plus TR's bob
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??????

this is painful to read through

tbh I am fine with a kerset lim but I stand by my claim that IV is outed scum

a lot of pedits
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self voting is a huge red flag.

I like ydrasse's reaction or is their avi making me defaulting town on them every game
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i am *alright* with a kerset lim but at the same time I'm afraid they are actually doctor
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I got baited by the hammer

I seriously did think it was hammer tbh
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In post 1981, PlusJOYED wrote:you've been doing this since lime the first day my guy
ndmath is also probs town
scumteam is teacher/iv/that other fuck
In post 1990, PlusJOYED wrote:boom guys i got it it's iv/teacher/ndmath
ndmath is probs maf ascetic
PLUSJOY YOU JUST MADE ME GO ???????? again

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In post 1997, PlusJOYED wrote:don't throw kerset
this is tvt
TMI from plus
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kerset is probably town due to the TMI but I do not like the AtE

teacher is waffly recently and quite concerning

plus didn't you TR iv btw your reads are super wack
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Post Post #2027 (isolation #173) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:35 pm

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I would say the solve now is iv / plus / osuka tbh

plus randomly switching to townlean on iv is concerning, osuka being very slimy and generally scummy voting

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Post Post #2028 (isolation #174) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:37 pm

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NDMath is weird... but I am buying the ascetic claim for now and idk why scum would claim ascetic there
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I am not interested in poetry.

Now saudade, if you insist on kerset scum who are their partners? The only thing I remember about saudade this game is “tunnelling kerset” tbh
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Post Post #2032 (isolation #176) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:32 am

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So you’re tr’ing everyone that defends you

explain your plus read
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Post Post #2036 (isolation #177) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:29 am

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I do not believe people's scumranges can't improve

it's fluid thought but very weird thoughts and tbh I don't see revolutionary thoughts from them

I cannot make sense of town!plus
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Post Post #2037 (isolation #178) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:31 am

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town!plus does plus things

but plusjoy's posting makes my scum radar bleep
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Post Post #2038 (isolation #179) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:37 am

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PLACES WHERE I GO ???!?!?!?
In post 1981, PlusJOYED wrote:you've been doing this since lime the first day my guy
ndmath is also probs town
scumteam is teacher/iv/that other fuck
NDMath is town.
In post 1990, PlusJOYED wrote:boom guys i got it it's iv/teacher/ndmath
ndmath is probs maf ascetic
boom guys I had this huge realisation where my TR just walked into my solve.
In post 1798, PlusJOYED wrote:shelly hop on iv
"shelly hop on iv" note this quite manipulative play
In post 1647, PlusJOYED wrote:disagree with kerset
iv is scum
weird flex on iv after leaning them town
In post 709, PlusJOYED wrote:Me:
bob (townie god) > shelly > ydrasse > andres > mena > suadade > kerset > teacher > osuka > IV (leaning more townie) >  NDMath > taylor (scum extraordinaire)
what happened to your taylor read btw plusjoy?[/spoiler]
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Post Post #2039 (isolation #180) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:43 am

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I searched plusjoy's ISO for the word iv and what i see is very weird

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In post 60, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 57, innocentvillager wrote:oh well then ignore me asking why you didn’t vote ydrasse
?????
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Innocent villager
IV is scum.
In post 70, PlusJOYED wrote:I don't think there's much else IV could have done to convince me he's scum for an experienced slot at least. Like 75% sure he's some kind of jester or scum. That's high enough for me to entertain a tunnel on him.
IV is 75% scum.
In post 225, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 154, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 151, shellyc wrote:Ydrasse is town aligned because I have a good vibe from them

plusjoy is town since they're playing like 2023 and they seem sincere

IV is town as their profile pic gives me a good vibe (and they townpassed me)

need to click twice for this to go through
i agree with all of this so Shelly is town
iv continuing to trip all my scumtells like an RV through a spiderweb
IV is very scummy.
In post 346, PlusJOYED wrote:Basically, I TR IV until around page 3 when he made mistake/scumtells so WIFOM kicked in and now he's ultra scum mafia god
IV is scum because of WIFOM - a term which i don't especially like: occam's razor is the way to go
In post 720, PlusJOYED wrote:I changed my mind IV is obvtown
IV IS TOWN!
In post 1556, PlusJOYED wrote:...i think iv is scum again
I'm fine being the day 2 elim since I'm pretty sure I know who the other scum are, at least 1 of them
VOTE: iv
weird self sacrificing spirit tbh a bit LAMIST
In post 1647, PlusJOYED wrote:disagree with kerset
iv is scum
IV is obvscum???
In post 1998, PlusJOYED wrote:man everything actually falls really into place with iv/teacher/math
i'll make an in depth casing later
IV is in the solve.


this flip-flopping makes me alarmed and concerned.
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Post Post #2040 (isolation #181) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:44 am

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meta is trash iv

hot take we might want to lim plusjoy here
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Post Post #2042 (isolation #182) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:07 am

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sell me on plus town

I could see a world where it *exists* but I want to park my vote here since plusjoy hasn't been under much pressure
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Post Post #2044 (isolation #183) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:27 am

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META. IS. TRASH.

don't try and change my mind

tell me who else is SR'ing you right now
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Post Post #2045 (isolation #184) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:28 am

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how can I act like town!shelly when town!shelly hasn't been rolled out
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Post Post #2046 (isolation #185) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:28 am

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is this TMI again

or is plusjoy just an overnight scumhunting god
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Post Post #2049 (isolation #186) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:31 am

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DO NOT TALK ABOUT ONGOING GAMES AHHH

is this TMI again
plusjoy is so confident about things today

osuka just defended you and so did iv
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Post Post #2052 (isolation #187) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:33 am

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pedit marathons don't count smh

plusjoy stated in dead PT in finished game 2027 that they were excited to roll scum

which I think is happening right here
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Post Post #2053 (isolation #188) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:33 am

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THE EVIL OVERLORD HAS STOLEN THE PAGETOP ONCE AGAIN

I am disappointed
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Post Post #2056 (isolation #189) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:35 am

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today plusjoy's *vibe* is overconfident tbh

which isn't very AI but weird

PEDIT: WHAT THE FUCK WHY WOULD YOU OUT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH PLUSJOY??!??!?!?!
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Post Post #2058 (isolation #190) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:36 am

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I'm done

NO MORE PRS OUT NOBODY ELSE CLAIM TODAY UNLESS AT E-1 THANK YOU VERY MUCH

pedit that isn't *meta* it's a fact
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Post Post #2059 (isolation #191) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:37 am

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also thank god my autocorrect has learnt to accept the word plusjoy
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Post Post #2061 (isolation #192) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:38 am

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NOBODY ELSE OUT OR CLAIM
PLUSJOY I THOUGHT YOU KNEW BETTER NOT TO CLAIM AHHHHHHHH

WHY DID YOU SOFTCLAIM PR
WHY DID YOU JUST OUT YOURSELF
WHY DID YOU CLAIM PR NOT AT E-1
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Post Post #2062 (isolation #193) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:38 am

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okay I guess vt is fun :)
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Post Post #2066 (isolation #194) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:40 am

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uhh you just made my heart nearly stop with that "claim" so

argh this game is a rollercoaster

and tbh I'm half asleep now

PEDIT DON'T EXPOSE PRS WTF TEACHER????!?!?
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Post Post #2067 (isolation #195) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:41 am

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im going to sleep please do not self destruct kthxbye
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Post Post #2070 (isolation #196) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:43 am

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teacher's blatantly rolefishing

I'm being pissed off

it's different

pedit: yes I am noob ok im really going to sleep now
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Post Post #2072 (isolation #197) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:48 am

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I have an obsession with mafia.

sell me on saudade scum because the tunnel is very town
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Post Post #2076 (isolation #198) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:51 am

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"softed quite heavily" suggests that they are a PR which suggests that you are acutely aware of TPR!plusjoy
and "why make this painful" suggests that you want them to out with their role which doesn't help if you already are aware of their role.
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Post Post #2142 (isolation #199) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:02 pm

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In post 2090, Tayl0r Swift wrote:shelly is still town tho even if shellys posts atm are pretty weird.
I was like, half asleep when posting so probably ignore everything I posted last night
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