Newbie 2029—Ancient Arthropods {Game Over}


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Newbie 2029—Ancient Arthropods {Game Over}

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:22 am

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featuring the artwork of Satoshi Kawasaki





Playerlist

Norfolk Boy1
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Noraa
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notscience (SE)
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Forum Rules & Guidelines ::
Important Announcements ::
Setup information wiki ::
Role PMs ::
Votecounts ::
Most recent votecount
Game Events

Day .


First Elimination

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Second Elimination

Day .
Third Elimination

Endgame Actions/PTs




Game Rules

I.
Do not test or abuse the rules. I reserve the right to change them as the game progresses. The consequences of breaking these rules are case-by-case.
II.
I am the Bulge thy Mod. My word is law. Hex colour
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@Bulge
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III.
Familiarize yourself with the Forum Rules & Guidelines, linked above. Make sure to stay on top of any new Important Announcements.
IV.
Do not talk about other ongoing games in this thread. Do not talk about this game while it is ongoing in any other thread, except in any Private Threads provided by the Mod.
V.
Do not harass any other player or try to ruin the fun of the game for anyone.
VI.
Do not play against your Win Condition. You may privately request replacement at any time.
VII.
Do not use encrypted, invisible, or ridiculously tiny text. I may edit your posts if you do. This is a social game with no place for cryptography.
VIII.
Do not use provable randomness. You are allowed to say, for example, that you rolled a die to arrive at a particular conclusion, but you cannot use the tag.
IX.
Do not quote or copy+paste any text from any game-related private threads or personal messages, real or fabricated. You may not claim to be mafia partners with another player.
X.
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XI.
Once a player has accumulated half of the votes (rounded down) plus one, an Elimination occurs and no further votes that Day are counted.
XII.
If there is no majority vote reached before the deadline, there will be No Elimination. If you do not submit an Action before the deadline, you will perform No Action.
XIII.
The first Day phase will be at most 10 days long, with all following Days lasting no longer than 7 days. Nights will be 48 hours. All deadlines are as posted or until the Mod arrives.
XIV.
If you do not post for 36 hours in a row, you will receive a prod. Failing to respond to a prod after 24 hours or accumulating four prods may result in your replacement.
XV.
If you think you will be unable to post or check in for an extended period of time, please contact me privately so that we can make the appropriate arrangements.
XVI.
This Newbie game uses the NewD3 semi-open setup, linked above and explained below. It would be in your best interest to study the setup's multiple possibilities.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:23 am

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Newbie Setup
Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
Mafia
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Goon
Row 1
Town Cop and Town Doctor
Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2
Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker
Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3
Town Mason and Town Mason
Town Tracker and Town Doctor
Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by
one mafia goon
and
five vanilla townies
appropriately, to create a
2-mafia
and
7-town
setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.
Mafia Roleblocker
action takes precedence over a
Town Jailkeeper
action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.


Spoiler: Full Setups
Column A & Row 1:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5


Spoiler: Sample Role PMs
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a
Town Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a
Town Mason
.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a
Town Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a
Town Friendly Neighbor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Rolecop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.
Vanilla Townies
and
Mafia Goons
will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:25 am

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Introduction and Tips
Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.


Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips


Activity


Try to check in at least once a day.
Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone
plays
. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta


Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!
While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!
As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.
That's okay!
Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.
Have fun!
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:49 am

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Role PMs have been sent out. The game will begin when I have received 8/9 confirmations. Players have 48 hours to confirm their role and alignment.

Confirmations received:
9


(expired on 2020-09-10 11:49:00) remaining before I make replacements.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:45 am

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Day One

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All players but one have confirmed. wizardastronaut has until the above timer runs out to pick up their Role PM, lest they be replaced.

The game has begun! All players may now post in the main thread. Any Private Threads will also remain open for the duration of the game.

Good luck, and have fun!
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:46 am

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Votecount 1.0

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Not voting
{9}
- Norfolk Boy1, UneducatedGuesser, MiniMegabyte, Random Canadian, PlusJOYED, wizardastronaut, osuka, notscience, herrcombs.

Votes needed to Eliminate:
{5}
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:49 am

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What's up arthopod people
Whose ready to hunt some mafia trilobitches

VOTE: PlusJOYED
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:02 am

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VOTE: joyed

Serious vote.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:05 am

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:0
Was my ancient arthopod pun too crude?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:07 am

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I don’t think your town game entrances have loosened up this much, candidly. Before your entrance was very uptight and this is such a stark difference. Normally I’d say that means you’re town- but your awkward entrance was AS town. That level of improvement is weird.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:09 am

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Anyways- hi everyone! I’m one of the SEs and if you have anything game mechanic/theory you want my input on feel free to ask- I will answer honestly and that should be treated irrespective of my alignment. The other SEs are more than welcome to weigh in!
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:14 am

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I see your point, but I also didn't enter into RVS last game. It was middle of day 2. RVS is much more casual imo
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:24 am

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As I've never played with anyone here, this is a conversation where I'm probably missing a few things.

I automatically throw metaphorical rocks at people who self-vote though, though since it's RVS and the first post in the thread I'll use smaller, smoother rocks.

Anyhow...

VOTE: Random Canadian

Random vote for a Random person of randomness.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:28 am

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He replaced in a game I was in on D2. His entrance felt very awkward and unsure.

His entrance here feels confident. I don’t believe his town game developed that fast.

But I’m willing to let him do some more things.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:48 am

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okay actually @mod i'm stealing some of the formatting for my own templates because that #0 looks fucking sick

I appreciate it, thank you!
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:49 am

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also fuck i forgot i signed up for this

i know nobody on this plist so VOTE: notscience for having a joindate older than my own
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:00 pm

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holy shit there is some _serious_ bbcode fuckery happening in that OP

i absolutely love it
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:32 pm

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Votecount 1.1

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notscience
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- osuka
Random Canadian
{1}
- UneducatedGuesser
PlusJOYED
{2}
- PlusJOYED notscience

Not voting {5}
- Norfolk Boy1, MiniMegabyte, Random Canadian, wizardastronaut, herrcombs.

Votes needed to Eliminate:
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:06 pm

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Hi everyone! Hi notsci! You probably don't remember me but we played a game together like 5 years ago.
In post 10, notscience wrote:Anyways- hi everyone! I’m one of the SEs and if you have anything game mechanic/theory you want my input on feel free to ask- I will answer honestly and that should be treated irrespective of my alignment. The other SEs are more than welcome to weigh in!
I would rather you not ask me about theory. I have a few games on this site but even the newbie setup is different than when I last played.

Gotta check the grill but I will end with this

VOTE: PlusJOYED
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:10 pm

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I had to go look because I didn’t remember and I realized it was a scum game and that’s prob why :p
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:16 pm

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I recognized your name, and I remembered I had really strong feelings about that game, but then I realized it didn't have anything to do with you.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:10 pm

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Oh hey!

How can one be both a wizard and an astronaut? VOTE: Wiz
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:06 pm

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21 posts in and plusJOYED is already at E-2.

That doesn't seem very random for a Random Vote Stage.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:42 pm

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Hey! That was a very quick growing vote wagon so early
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:24 am

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Same question to both of you, then. Is it scumpushed? Town?

@norfolk I do recommend you get an avatar
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