Undertale C Open Cooking Show PT

[Isis]

Made this thread to naked quote this
Subject: Mini Theme 2161: Undertale C Open - Chara's Folly

I don't really understand how a message of cheer, joy and peace could be not attractive? think of the example we are setting for the children if we begin murdering each other in cold blood on TV

[Isis]

I feel really bad about how hard this setup is for scum

[Isis]

but at the same time
"it makes essentially no sense to have bussed as vengeful chara"
I have to agree with that being a weak play that reduces my sympathy towards the scumteam

[Isis]

I always try to forgive myself by remembering how townisded the 1.0 version of the setup is

I'm likely to give up on fixing this setup and mod other things from now on. Hectic will be crushed.

[Isis]

yes Prism, I made sure spared scum and spared town don't behave differently for the buttercup trigger so that there isn't an investigative side effect. I am not

that

bad at setup design

[Isis]

Can you promise to do the kawaii wave in the next three games you play with Prism? He absolutely hated it and I want him to suffer

[Isis]

Hm, wouldn't the strongest play be to totally focus on players with Chara equity during D2? The people with normal scum equity should be available D3, 4, and 5. Assuming you can differentiate

[Isis]

You do win either way if you hit, and maybe you need every attempt at hitting scum you can take. I'm not sure. I feel like it's an interesting theory question, but it may be one that evaluates to "you should just vote for informed minority lmao"

[Isis]

I'm doing lots of schaudenfreude laughing right now, with all this deadline scrambling. It's great.

[Isis]

do not revert your avatar

[Isis]

OTP

[Isis]

I haven't heard that significance for "OTP" before.

In fanfiction enthusiast circles, "OTP" stands for "One True Pairing".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCDgJiPBxfI

[Isis]

ie. what instinctively points you toward him? I know that you work a lot off of current feeling/intuition, no need to go digging through the archives unless you want to for some reason

what the hell you're so sweet and understanding this is why i fell for you

...Do you hear that?

I think we just made Tanner grab another beer

yep

lol

[Isis]

Man I was always a big Chara fan but it used the adjective meaning of "pedestrian", one of my favorite words.

[Isis]

idk I will prolly go on a two week cross-country excursion singing Chara's praises no matter what Krazy flips

[Isis]

lol what the hell are they doing

[Isis]

That is probably the play I would make. I think if you have something as significant as a missing NK you spend at least a little of your misfight budget on speccing it.

Like if I settled on Lavender not being the best person for that juxtaposed with the bussing fine, someone similar where I can craft a narrative.

All the 1v1s that ignore such a dramatic tool is different from how I think I'd play this phase though.

[Isis]

I agree, I like the general approach to the game that D1 either mercks a scum in and of itself or provides a roadmap to the game.

[Isis]

Prism flaked on me

[Isis]

It was already two slots, Elements-> beeboy and redtea-> lots of things

[Isis]

I know right it's such an easy game

[Isis]

Krazy said to tell Hectic and Puppy that he loves them

[Isis]

How dare you

[Isis]

based on the tone in discord Krazy seemed like he was indulging some pessimistic nihilism about the game rather than treating Puppy's thesis as something he'd confidently defend logically.

But I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have no-killed without it being suggested.

[Isis]

I hope I have made up for Hectic not actually getting a fight scene

[Isis]

Krazy loves you, Nacho, apparently.

[Isis]

Not confirming Prism/Alisae seems like a throw?

[Isis]

on the morning we lynched hectic.

I woke up. saw the vote count, and cried a lot while writing out my good bye note. It had a bunch of things that I wanted to give to each of you because I knew the days ahead would be harder.

I regret not dying that morning every time I log in to this thread.

I wouldn't make this up if I was scum.

0_0

[Isis]

To disincentivize replacing out, I generally don't add replacements to spectator/dead PTs in the absence of affirmative evidence that there was a good reason to betray the commitment to the game.

[Isis]

Speaking of which, beeboy had a medical emergency but for the first time in a bit he's posted onsite. I'll shoot him a PM

[Isis]

see thats my point. i am good at yeeting people. i wouldve yeeted him d1 if i was scum here. i probly couldve gotten puppy spared too.

lol
bold line, Pooky

[Isis]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12259350
Man Datisi is a national treasure
Uh, I mean Tanner

[Isis]

@Krazy Mini 2132 for prolly my best scum example. Day 1 of Hectic's Silent Star I thought I was scum with Kanna, that is my most recent one. can't link directly atm but yea

Pooky, I am not the path you should go down ;c

Hectic wtf did you do with that game??

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I don't know if I want to insist the players lie or keep mum about their own interpretation of Krazy's exit. Maybe it's something that should be gag-ruled, I don't know, I don't know how much brainpower I want to use to philosophy through a situation that only occurs as often as someone is banned, which isn't super often.

[Isis]

A scum victory is asterisked but still a scum victory. The game is winnable for town. Noraa is pretty likely to ignore Krazy's trust telling because her style is going to be "play from here forward" and if she ends up leading a push on duck day 2 they might keep treating her slot as conftown (like they should) and vote to win. It's like a 10% chance or something because Noraa has to actually read duck scum to start with, for starters.

[Isis]

If they vote purely based on postcount, the game immediately ends in a town win. Maybe the real trust tell was the posts we made along the way.

[Isis]

Pooky AtE unreal

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ducky if lavender doesnt vote before the deadline you have to be online to vote. im counting on you <3

:sweating:

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incidentally this is like the first time as a moderator I have been rooting for town, when Krazy trust told [and implied I was complicit!?!?!?!?!?] that flipped the switch and I just like am not able to flip back psychologically once worst is in the slot even though worst is awesome. I hope he understands.

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He is here! In this thread!

[Isis]

It is an unfair angle of argument

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Nearly 10% of the posts Pooky has ever made in the past 17 years are townposting in two months of play in Undertale C Open and then the town threw a bunch of hurt tags at him and now he's here in a dead PT

[Isis]

Might have to not actually discontinue modding this series of games just because catboi made such a clever joke

[Isis]

NO PUPPY, DO NOT QUIT MAFIA
no
no no
nonononononono

[Isis]

After Krazy cracked the game open with a trust tell I care a lot less about the microscopic influence/integrity factors involved with a dead scum complying with a living player's request for an avi change, if he wanted to just change it now.

I can't remember who asked in the first place, that person is probably replaced, dead, or banned X_X

[Isis]

yeah it looks like it was you, it wifoms you town or scum and once you died you became conftown, so it's pretty whatever.

[Isis]

omfg this game wow

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lol @ the worst

Lavender's vote is gonna be pretty pivotal

I will cry beauty tears if Lavender soulconnects with that Tweet novella and wins

[Isis]

I'm speechless.

[Isis]

Hm, I don't know if I consider attempting an interpretation of mod action/inaction to be too oog to be inadmissable. I definitely appreciate a regard for the integrity of the game though.

[Isis]

I sent tanner a daystart PM complete with flavour where Lavender was the NK, eheeheeheehee

Cause I know he hates eLo

[Isis]

You should only modkill slots that can't be both scumread and townread. Krazy's slot clearly was able to be both scumread and townread.

I wrote a much longer philosophical post but my phone ate it but that's the short version.

[Isis]

duck is correct that "I'm not scum because I would have conceded" is not great mafia. It's thankfully not that compelling when scum!tweet and town!tweet both win if they get a duck fight and lose if they don't, but it's something to think about, and at a metalevel it's a good reason to only concede truly, truly unwinnable games, even if you try not to bring it up (and you should not really bring it up)

[Isis]

for that specific method of communication, and that one only, I'm gonna say it's cheating not to do it if you think it will help your wincon.

[Isis]

It's time for a change