Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

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I will read the setup tab now. That seems very important.

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Oh my. Maybe I will just stick to dayplay this game...

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I am not sure whether I will be informed enough to make a vote. I am still trying to figure out the setup and how it works.

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Why?!

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Who is this vig?

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ABR, I am town! Do not shoot me.

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I do not know if I will be much better, but I will at least try to play the game.
pedit: Do you think I should read the game or try to understand the setup? It know seems like reading has more benefit if I am being vigged right?

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Ok, I hope to make some good reads.

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I think Noraa is town for her catchup and follow up between 58-60. She seemed like she meant business and was tired of fluff which is a good look considering there was no wagon on her. It seems like out primary wagons are Bingle and Fun and Games. I don't really like either of them at this point, but hopefully reading more into things helps me out.

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I don't necessarily agree with her reads though.

link to VC on this page

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I thought there was some faulty logic behind the IKS scumread. She seemed to call IKS scum seemingly due to voting a leading wagon near deadline which I don't think is particularly alignment indicative. I think there are probably more examples, but that was one moment that jumped out.

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Everyone keeps discrediting ABR's reads which is annoying cuz a person that doesn't know how to push reads well doesn't equal scum

And his reads could very much be right whether or not he articulates well

This is also somewhat sketchy logic.

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Ok? The more important thing is that I think she is town, but I just wanted to point that out. Unfortunately, I really can't choose who I would want eliminated between FG and Bingle.

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How am I fence sitting? I think you are town, but I don't think the way you read people is particularly reliable.
IKS is I Keep Siteflaking. Scumreading him for voting a leading wagon doesn't seem accurate to me. What is the difference between town and scum voting Bingle in that situation?
About ABR, there is no guarantee that his reads are correct in the first place. Vigging me is a mistake.

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Her read list was p!bad and I don’t see how you think she is town based on it.

No, it wasn't based on the read list. I just liked the sequence of posts that seemed fed up. That doesn't seem like a scum approach given the lack of pressure there at the time.

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She literally made the readslist because she was being called out for doing nothing.

Ok, I'll take a look into that situation then.

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And plus with so many people actively discrediting his opinions

I wonder why that is the case.

Gamma Emerald has developed into a townread.

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Really hoping ABR is just scum here...
@Fun and Games Not yet. I know there were moments, so I'll go back and pull them here for you.

*sigh*
am I not supposed to see this as a pocket?

@Penguin Power Case in point.

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Honestly, I'm not feeling so down on Fun and Games anymore, but they could be fooling me. I don't really like either side of ABR/FG. 1563 just seemed like a cop out excuse for him not to specify on reasons of thinking your reads were fake. However, I feel like there is somewhat of a "smug" air around you and ABR as if you think his reasons aren't believable and he isn't going to get you hanged which is somewhat surprising but also fits in with a scum narrative.

Flip bingle and have ABR prove his role on us if Bingle is not guilty.

I like the idea of this though

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I'm probably happy just voting Bingle today, but I will leave the door open for any last minute cases and stuff. I should probably be able to make it for deadline, but the idea of being a deciding vote is a bit scary.

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I thought I was getting vigged

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I was addressing Fun and Games, and it definitely read to me like he had no specific reads that he thought were fake. Maybe he can talk me through that when he gets back.

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Oh sorry I meant 1653.

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No, I am not scum with Fun and Games. I would still like to hammer Bingle because it looks like he is at L-1, but now I am doubting myself.

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But why? You seemed to fall apart yesterday during your attack. I don't know how much I can trust you either even if I think you are town.

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I am still wanting to vote Bingle, so if I vote him, there will be a hammer.

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Wow IKS just hammered Bingle!

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So will I be getting vigged tonight?
pedit: Oh looks like I am safe.

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Hello, what's the purpose of a dawn period?

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I have already received a result for the night action I took. Is this normal? It also seems like you know you have been attacked by someone, so what type of actions are resolving?

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Thank you PenguinPower. You can have this pagetop as a token of gratitude

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Hi guys, sorry for not being here yesterday. I also found a sword which boosts attack because I went exploring last night. I don't think that will be too helpful towards me, so I'm thinking of giving it to Albert tonight.
I too am confused about what Fun and Games is claiming to do, and I am not sure I even believe it. I will see what else I think too.

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Yeah, IKS play is a bit confusing to me, but I'm not sure if I'm willing to call it scummy. Yeah, maybe they are trying to play mind games on us. We could have Albert use his ability on IKS if FG flips red.

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Noraa, do you know what IKS's revolver did to you?

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he gave me the item that put my knowledge up to 6
Which, btw, expires at the end of today so if I can’t attempt the vault rn I’ll probably not worry about it for now

Wow, that does not seem very helpful if it doesn't even last for the night.

I am also ready to vote Fun and Games, but I think DKKoba should be given time to share thoughts to catch up and share some thoughts. Was Nosferatu attacked by the scum?

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I think there have been people who have been attacked by Doctors, so I am townreading them right now(Gamma, DK/Nos, Cmod1). Out of the other people, I think I am townreading Penguin, you, and Noraa. I have not had a chance to talk with Cakez and Johnny too much this game, but I think I would lean town on them. I think IKSF and the FG need to go.

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If iks is implicated from a fng hang why not get iks? Whats scummier abt f+g?

IKS is hard townread by F+G which I think is townie now that you brought it up. Do you think a scum would be hard townreading a potential counterwagon? I'm not sure; it could just be more mind games.

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Are you calling yourself a deepwolf?

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DK, I think that at least one of Noraa and Albert should be town, so I will give the sword tomorrow to one of them.

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I thought we were waiting for one of them to prove themselves by killing off a scum.

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Ok, what will we do about PenguinPower's sword if he also gave it to Gamma?

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Why would claiming I found a sword give me towncred?

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This game has gone nowhere. I am tired of the nonsense spam.

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VOTE: Fun and Games

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I'm town.

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Gamma has the sword.

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Dk, I don't understand. I will try to destroy the lab tonight.

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DK please. My knowledge is 4. I can do it!

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Everyone else told me that Fun and Games was scum though?! I was a little hesitant, but it seemed like everything was going in circles. I hear from good players that elimination is necessary sometimes.

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Noooo
where did I lie? Gamma has the sword. That is the truth!

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Noooo
I do not know what a 'trolling' is. I am not scum!

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What is a 'openwolving'?
I am town! I will destroy the lab

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Noraa, ABR trust me. You are playing into the scum hands if you attack me. This is what they want!

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Cool game!