Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I - Mafia PT

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Jesus. This rules.

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You guys know you can lobotomy nosferatu 2x in a row for a nightkill, right?

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You can decrease his knowledge and if it hits 0, game over.

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DOCTORS have a factional operation ability. Each night, they can select one player to operate on and increase or decrease that player's Knowledge by 1.

Ingame Post 5: There are 3 stats, each with a range of 1-6. All players start with 3 in each stat, and if any stat reaches 0, you die immediately.

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Still reading the game.

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I will make default

activate 1st lab

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I haven't fully read the thread, but because actions in gym (the best action you can do) will fail, probably because scum, not visiting gym will be seen as scummy.

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Yes...

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@mod
What text would I recieve if I visited roped gym? Would I be able to visit the gym and get status boost next night?
Is it possible that an item has special ability which prevents/ makes it harder to give it to another person?

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You would be notified of the result of your action.

So "no result"?

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I almost activated the lab. Needed just 3 more points. Can you use the rope agian?

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if I steal from my target, will target know that it was me?

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I think you should try to find a weapon. Search for "armory" or something like that.

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Instructions:

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1) go to this: https://www.programiz.com/python-progra ... -compiler/
2) delete these 3 lines on the left half of screen
3) copy there my code
4) click run
5) enter data to the right right half of the screen
note: If it bugs in input, just run it again
note2: When Albert attacks Gamma. I think the probabilities are correct, I checked few numbers and it seems to correct.

Code:

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def chanceToRoll (number, rolls):
  if number < 0 or number > rolls*2:
    return 0
  if rolls == 1:
    return 1/3
  return (chanceToRoll(number, rolls-1) + chanceToRoll(number - 1, rolls-1) + chanceToRoll(number - 2, rolls-1)) / 3

mode = int(input("If you wish to activate lab, enter 0. If you wish to attack, enter 1: "))
if mode == 0:
  myStat = int(input("Enter your knowlege: "))
  activationCost = int(input("Enter how many knowledge to activate the lab: "))
  result = 0
  for i in range (activationCost, myStat * 2 + 1):
    result += chanceToRoll (i, myStat)
  print ("You will activate the lab with probability of: " + str(round(result*100, 1)) + "%")
if mode == 1:
  myStat = int(input("Enter your roll stat: "))
  enemyStat = int(input("Enter enemy roll stat: "))
  bonus = int(input("Enter your bonus to roll (can be negative): "))
  knockOut = int(input("Enter how many damage is needed for KO: "))
  result = []
  for i in range (0, myStat*2 + bonus + 1):
    result.append(0)
  for i in range (0, enemyStat*2 + 1):
    for j in range (0, myStat*2 + bonus + 1):
      if j < i:
        result[0] += chanceToRoll(i, enemyStat) * chanceToRoll(j - bonus, myStat)
      else:
        result[j-i] += chanceToRoll(i, enemyStat) * chanceToRoll(j - bonus, myStat)
  for i in range (0, knockOut):
    print("Chance to deal " + str(i) + " damage is " + str(round(result[i]*100, 1)) + "%")
  a = 0
  for i in range (knockOut, myStat*2 + bonus + 1):
      a += result[i]
  print("Chance to kill the enemy is " + str(round(a * 100, 1)) + "%")

I wrote a program to tell you how likely you are to activate lab/ attack enemy.

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The case against you is BS and you can deflect the wagon by trying hard enough.

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does target know he was operated on to increase/ decrease knowledge? Or there will just be informed about stat increase/ drop?

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IKSF - don't vote Johnny yet. Let's try to be later on the wagon.

Hups.

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Some town are defending you. Behave towny and you will be alright.
Also, yes, ABR will carry us.

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BaTotH rooms:

Spoiler:

Abandoned Room
Attic
Balcony
Ballroom
Basement Landing (s)
Bedroom
Bloody Room
Catacombs
Chapel
Charred Room
Chasm
Coal Chute
Collapsed Room
Conservatory
Creaky Hallway
Crypt
Dining Room
Dusty Hallway
Entrance Hall (s)
Foyer (s)
Furnace Room
Gallery
Game Room
Gardens
Grand Staircase (s)
Graveyard
Gymnasium
Junk Room
Kitchen
Larder
Library
Master Bedroom
Mystic Elevator
Operating Laboratory
Organ Room
Patio
Pentagram Chamber
Research Laboratory
Servants’ Quarters
Stairs from Bedroom
Statuary Corridor
Storeroom
Tower
Underground Lake
Upper Landing (s)
Vault
Wine Cellar

I think Chara should explore if she survive and find a room which has a chance to have weapon.
So... Attic? Vault? Junk room seems promising, but no way to tell if it is here or not.

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In Europe.

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Kill gamma. Attack on me has low reason now. We can do it later.

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Yes.

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You can try using this:

Instructions:

Spoiler:

1) go to this: https://www.programiz.com/python-progra ... -compiler/
2) delete these 3 lines on the left half of screen
3) copy there my code
4) click run
5) enter data to the right right half of the screen
note: If it bugs in input, just run it again
note2: When Albert attacks Gamma. I think the probabilities are correct, I checked few numbers and it seems to correct.

Code:

Spoiler:

Code: Select all

def chanceToRoll (number, rolls):
  if number < 0 or number > rolls*2:
    return 0
  if rolls == 1:
    return 1/3
  return (chanceToRoll(number, rolls-1) + chanceToRoll(number - 1, rolls-1) + chanceToRoll(number - 2, rolls-1)) / 3

mode = int(input("If you wish to activate lab, enter 0. If you wish to attack, enter 1: "))
if mode == 0:
  myStat = int(input("Enter your knowlege: "))
  activationCost = int(input("Enter how many knowledge to activate the lab: "))
  result = 0
  for i in range (activationCost, myStat * 2 + 1):
    result += chanceToRoll (i, myStat)
  print ("You will activate the lab with probability of: " + str(round(result*100, 1)) + "%")
if mode == 1:
  myStat = int(input("Enter your roll stat: "))
  enemyStat = int(input("Enter enemy roll stat: "))
  bonus = int(input("Enter your bonus to roll (can be negative): "))
  knockOut = int(input("Enter how many damage is needed for KO: "))
  result = []
  for i in range (0, myStat*2 + bonus + 1):
    result.append(0)
  for i in range (0, enemyStat*2 + 1):
    for j in range (0, myStat*2 + bonus + 1):
      if j < i:
        result[0] += chanceToRoll(i, enemyStat) * chanceToRoll(j - bonus, myStat)
      else:
        result[j-i] += chanceToRoll(i, enemyStat) * chanceToRoll(j - bonus, myStat)
  for i in range (0, knockOut):
    print("Chance to deal " + str(i) + " damage is " + str(round(result[i]*100, 1)) + "%")
  a = 0
  for i in range (knockOut, myStat*2 + bonus + 1):
      a += result[i]
  print("Chance to kill the enemy is " + str(round(a * 100, 1)) + "%")

I wrote a program to tell you how likely you are to activate lab/ attack enemy.

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Gamma:
Chance to deal 0 damage is 40.3%
Chance to deal 1 damage is 19.3%
Chance to deal 2 damage is 17.3%
Chance to deal 3 damage is 12.3%
Chance to kill the enemy is 10.7%

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Cake:
Chance to deal 0 damage is 21.0%
Chance to deal 1 damage is 18.5%
Chance to deal 2 damage is 21.0%
Chance to deal 3 damage is 18.5%
Chance to deal 4 damage is 12.3%
Chance to kill the enemy is 8.6%

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IKS finds room containing Items
Lavar finds room containing Items
ABR rampages on Gamma using factional attack
ABR rampages on FaG using his action
ABR ropes gym
We reduce knowledge of Nosferatu

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can we crunch some numbers for stats to find out my % to kill a 3-3 player and a 3-2 player?

On paper, you basically can write all possible combinations, count how many times you do n damage and divide it by total amount of combinations.
You can speed up the process a little by using Bernoulli. But it still is a nuisance.

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Oh we aren't doing labs?

Depends on ABR, but I think that ability to kill is more useful than labs.
Plus there is an obnoxiously huge amount of players who can disable labs right now.

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Hmmmmmmmmm.
I think Lavar could actually visit the gym.
It is so

horrible

that scum would never do it.

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Chance to deal 0 damage is 40.3%

the chance to deal 0 damage after throwing 4 3-sided dice is not 40.3%.

You have 4 dices?!

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Abr, try posting the code in this:
https://www.onlinegdb.com/online_python_compiler

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How?
I though you have 3 dices and get +1 to attack.

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how is he useful to us now?

Perhaps saves him.
The action is so illogical for scum that it, in theory, could save him.
It is a gamble, though.

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Why is it illogical for me to visit the gym?

Because town thinks that scum can roomblock AND you have a knife near your throat to disable labs.

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I would go for kill.
Rolling 7 to get 4 labs is just insane.

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You also know that the requirement for DOCTORS to successfully activate LABS starts as a Knowledge roll of 3 or more. The required threshold to succeed increases by 1 for each activation successfully rolled by the faction

Disable is 6.

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Chance to deal 0 damage is 41.0%
Chance to deal 1 damage is 18.0%
Chance to deal 2 damage is 16.3%
Chance to deal 3 damage is 12.2%
Chance to deal 4 damage is 7.4%
Chance to kill the enemy is 5.2%

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4-3

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Chance to deal 0 damage is 41.0%
Chance to deal 1 damage is 18.0%
Chance to deal 2 damage is 16.3%
Chance to deal 3 damage is 12.2%
Chance to deal 4 damage is 7.4%
Chance to kill the enemy is 5.2%

What if i attack twice, once with factional and once with my own attack?

You multiply it.
Chance to KO is 5.2% + 7.4%*(1-41%) + 12.2%*(1-41%-18%) + 16.3%*(1-41%-18%-16.3%) + 18%*(1-41%-18%-16.3%-12.1%) + 41%*5.2%

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Minus 1 hour to go !!! so excited!!!

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I got an item which once per game sets your stats to max {current; 3}. It costs night action.

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Only myself. It resolves before attacks. I am considering giving it to gamma.

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Does it add + 2 dices or +2 damage?

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Mod, is it possible that there are neutrals?
When I asked, you directed me to wincons. But wincons doesn't confirm nor disallow 3p.

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ok ok thought you flaked us

Yes. Flaking is my job!

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Peng gave Gamma a sword.
Or at least claimed it.

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I am gymming.

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Yes.
The night everybody goes to gym.
We will. Attack. And not go to gym.

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John might try to open the vault. Killing him might give us ability to steal some of his items.

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Do I know who steals from me?
Can I use factional attack to steal?

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Yes.
~6 people without speed boost.
3 scum attacks.
Totally gonna work.

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Is it possible there is a 4th person with doctor wincon?

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R.I.P.

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You are likely getting attacked. Which should prevent you from being lynched tommorow.
Gym might give you an extra HP.
Explore might give you an extra item you can send use tommorow if you survive.
Attack if you think you can't survive this night.

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Nah. I don't think town is going to lynch someone with very low stats.

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I go to gym

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I will let you decide my actions so I have someone to blame for losing.
If lots of people go to gym and we all in attack, you get lots of conf towns, like Penguin, Cakez.

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Chance to deal 5 damage is 11.7%
Chance to deal >5 damage is 15.6%

15% chance to kill if they go to gym.
Else 25% chance.

Best case scenario you have 1/8 chance to kill both.

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Also, you need 3 damage to kill Gamma (gym).
You are very likely not killing anyone tonight.

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If you are attacking the PGO, don't.
You are being townreaded by Noraa.
In case Noraa gets townreaded, you cna carry us.

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He is annoying.
That behaviour is good for us.

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Attack a conftown 2x. Like cmod.

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I doubt it will work, but it is your call.
Worst case scenario I have anyone to blame for the inevitable lose.

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I have the canibal mask. I claim that it is my ability. You can operate me, if you wish.

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I need to operate on myself so tomorrow i have -1 intelligence for attacking dk once.

It would be awkward if i had -2 intelligence/knowledge for attacking twice

I think he sets knowledge to 1, rather than decreases by 1.

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decrease dk knowledge by 1

???

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who do you want to do it to? i need your item if my gambit works, i will have 1 knowledge and 1 speed

Let ε be any real number bigger than 0.
Then the probability of your gambit working is lower than ε.

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!blame ABR for loss

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!rigged

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Could you please make ABR's slot give me all it's items, if it is lynched before replacement is found?

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Or give them now. Whatever you find better.

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@replacement

Type in PT that you are giving me your sword.

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If someone asks you about your last night actions: you tried to attack LavarManos, but you were controlled by same mystical power and don't know what you did under its influence. You just know your current stats.

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Type in PT that you are giving me your sword.

If someone asks you about your last night actions: you tried to attack LavarManos, but you were controlled by same mystical power and don't know what you did under its influence. You just know your current stats.

carrying this over

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To sum this setup up:
day phase: town can vote someone up.
night phase: town can bang gang someone up.
We don't have night kill, but we can attack people to make them conf town.

Only scum can activate labs, anyone can deactivate labs. Town wants to deactivate labs.

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Your claim

N0: deactive lab [failed]
N1: gym - [roleblocked]
N2: explore [found vault]
D2: recieved sword from LavarManos
N3: attack LavarManos [failed, got controlled]

Also, claim controlled in your 1st post. And that you lost stats.

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Mod, if town asked if there can be a traitor, what would you respond?

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Flavor's ability is +1 to attack.
Claim +2 to attack.

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N3: attack LavarManos [failed, got controlled]

Note: you can take only 1 action/ night.
The other were scum actions.
Noraa TR your slot heavily.

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I also need your double edged sword. Now.

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Your claim

N0: deactive lab [failed]
N1: gym - [roleblocked]
N2: explore [found vault]
D2: recieved sword from LavarManos
N3: attack LavarManos [failed, got controlled]

Also, claim controlled in your 1st post. And that you lost stats.

I can claim all this, right?

Yes.
Bracets are results.

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Just claim you got controlled and don't know what you did under that state.
By the way, you have only 1 action/ night.

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The sword broke.

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If they ask.
The sword gave you +2 attack, but would break after use.

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Won't help. Too many confirmeds.

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I don't use any weapons:
faction attack Gamma
Attack Noraa
Expore
operate DK