Musician Mafia: Guitarists GAME OVER

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Guitarists are wankers.

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VOTE: Doctor Drew

Lack of reverence for Joe Morello is scum.

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UNVOTE: walter

VOTE: DGB for not using a video of Art Blakey

He was boring and sloppy!

I do appreciate it's a good reason to vote for me.

Titus is town.

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Princess Leia is trying to forcefully take over leadership with brazenly fake scumhunting.

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Princess Leia is trying to forcefully take over leadership with brazenly fake scumhunting.

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I'm surprised someone hasn't claimed a really weird 3P role yet

Prolly not a good idea given that I'm in the game.

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Princess Leia is trying to forcefully take over leadership with brazenly fake scumhunting.

It might be fake but why do you think that’s Leia’s MO?

Either town or scum might want to take control of the narrative.

When it's forced and phony, it's scum.

VOTE: Princess Leia

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DGB- what do you think of almost?

He's your buddy.

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Also DGB...why do Rude and A50 have to be buddies?

He wants my opinion on his buddy to incriminate me for it later.

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defending leia

+1 scumpoint

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ok I'm gonna just be straight with you guys.

I am a band leader and I have the power to win the game on day 1 if I form the greatest band of ALL TIME.

In other words, THE TOWNIEST BAND TO EVER BAND.


I have the ability to pick 5 people to join me in a rock band on any day. If all 5 players picked are GOOD, the town automatically wins the game - if I am wrong about any of my picks being good. I will die.

So far I have THREE lockdown picks for LOCKTOWN.

I need two more people. Let's get this shit done

I am LOCKTOWN's backup vocalist.

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Who are your lockTOWN picks?

I am not revealing this as they can easily be kicked out if I find them to be bad guys

Kind of think this is a personal wincon, and not town wincon.

He could give us 5 conftowns in one go.

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If you satisfy your wincon, do you leave the game?

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Titus calling me important looks like pocketing to me. It's also weird that she votes me at the same time of saying that.

VOTE: Titus

Ridiculous or scummy? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Wow people sure have fun making up reasons they think I'm scum.

Oof that sounds like "caught for the wrong reasons."

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OK you're town. Who is scum?

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TD is town.

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That does it.

VOTE: I Keep Siteflaking

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Scum points for trying to get someone modkilled though.

MAJOR scum points.

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I am not really liking galron.
AlsoVOTE: unvote
I should stop hopping and make an actual contribution.
I don't like Icerint's list because it has a lot of town reads I feel like for this early in the day. pedit Coincidentally, now that I am looking at that list, slot's looker npom are reads I have a hard time with are listed as scum.

VOTE: WaltertheDunce10

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Just vote Siteflake. You'll immediately feel better.

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Well if they were in last game I'm guessing they're waiting until Goofball bites the dust. Or they aren't gonna pull an Alch and make their wincon unwinnable by revealing too early.

hehehe

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Why are we discussing jesters?

Probably because the game is stalling a little? We need a crazy wagon.

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CHOO CHOO

VOTE: Nono

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Why are we discussing jesters?

Probably because the game is stalling a little? We need a crazy wagon.

I've tried the crazy wagon to no avail

Just vote Nono with me, Nono is insecure scum. It's a low hanging fruit but hey, it's day 1, it'll do.

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DIE 3P DIE

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Never count on vigbait being vig'ed.

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Other than being cranky, what is the case on Galron?

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where's DGB at, they've gone silent even more so, maybe at prod status?

Busy last few days, but I haven't forgotten.

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I regret reading that some players have jettisoned the righteous Siteflake wagon to hitch a ride on the heretic Lavender Sedgway? So lame.

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NB: If NPOM flips scum, I would be REALLY suspicious of DGB. It's VERY UNUSUAL for her to ignore someone who protects someone for outguessing flavor on D1. Her avoidance of NPOM all day is out of character for her.

Way to make me feel real self-conscious about this, Iecerint!

VOTE: NPOM

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VOTE: iks

There's a counter. I am ok with him dying.

IKS is scum too.

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VOTE: iks

There's a counter. I am ok with him dying.

IKS is scum too.

If both are scum reads to you, why join the smaller wagon? Asking for a friend.

Iecerint's case was convincing.

I will switch if necessary.

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I don't intend to claim at all at least not today.

CLAIM STALL DETECTED

VOTE: NPOM

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VOTE: pisskop LETS GO

Bad Pooky

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I'm not claiming cause the wagon is crap.

CAUGHT FOR THE WRONG REASONS

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for real tho, these two wagons are kind of garbo.

id kill iks as a pl, but i expect a greenflip. npom isn't scum either

You're town, but you're wrong.

BTW, also town: Titus.

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chkflip is town.

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I believe AKS' claim. I don't know if it's scum or town, though. But I am willing to wait and see.

Starbuck is town.

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I believe AKS' claim. I don't know if it's scum or town, though. But I am willing to wait and see.

Starbuck is town.

Good. Then vote outside {me, NPOM}, because NPOM is not happening today, and if we get close to DL with me/ him being the only big wagons, I get lynched.

Why isn't NPOM happening?

It should.

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, said the scum.

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Town mislynching my top townread is simply not happening. Any other questions?

I might have to switch my vote to you for this post.

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Three more votes and we'll find out.

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IKS who is scum?

Unless IKS is scum, his opinion is not worth more than yours or mine.

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Here is a list of people that aren't voting for scum NPOM:

BrightEyedFish
TiphaineDeath
Bambi Jay
Titus
Looker
pisskop
davesaz
I Keep Siteflaking
PookyTheMagicalBear
Gamma Emerald
a2rudeboy
Almost50

aka my vig list

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Why are you defending him?

I just threatened to swing my vote back on him, if I'm defending him I'm not doing a good job.

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Goofball seems to vote without a clear thought process. Also lack of quotes makes it hard to tell. Interesting to note while voting for Walter thae reply to someone was vote for iks. The claim stall is a bit weird. Other than that believes npom is scum. Considers to vote iks for that post on refusing to vote for npom. Neutral feeling
I am curious goofball if you believed both were scum why did you believe people who voted for other than npom deserve to be vigged?
pedit Do you mind pointing to where chkflip says that?

I got excited because NPOM was claim stalling. Everyone knows how I feel about that; claim stalls are 100% scum all the time, no exception.

At the same time, I good good feels from IKS because he claimed quickly, and his role description has some parallels with mine.

But then someone pointed out that the Developper bit was not very guitaristy, and I started to think IKS had outed the scum flavor, but I couldn't be sure.

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if she's mafia why wouldn't she just kill you if she wants you dead?

I'm town, if I had a vig shot I would have used it on NPOM.

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I was asked to claim at l3 and it was a stall?

I AM A CLAIM STALL MANIAC

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How does everyone know your position on claim stalls?

I've been 100% consistent and wildly successful with it since 1988.

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This is my signature, and has been for over a decade:

Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

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Ice goof and drew don't look great.

No, it is YOU who doesn't look great. See: claim stall.

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I've softclaimed anyways.

Softclaims are rubbish and don't count. They cannot be critically examined.

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You know how much info we got at the end of d1? You think that was anti town?

It was not your deliberate strategy LOL

You strategy was to obfuscate your role and make it difficult for us to know who to smash on time.

It's your luck that your partner who claimed, claimed scum.

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Eh, I make better fake claims then my actual role and anyone who doesn't make like five the instant they get scum are doing it wrong.

I've never seen this being done in any of the scum teams I've been on.

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Or my role could be totally worthless.

Is that a.... a.................................

scumslip?

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Scumslips are often weak, and yes this one is weak too, but it feels soooooo much like it's written straight from a scum perspecetive. So, so much.

"Or MY role could be totally worthless."

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Wait are we actually saying we wagoned 2 scum day 1? I don't believe it much.

It does happen.

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I like Looker, what's wrong with Looker?

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I love you drips but sometimes I also fucking hate you.

Nah nah nah

I love you, you love me, we're both town and it's all good.

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You guys think this is any good? I rather like the band for the few years Ive been hip them...

Just a pretentious knock off of this classic:

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My wagon is still scum driven...town would focus on more than one player.

So you kept saying this yesterday and now today. NAME NAMES.

Right? I was half-willing to call him town for the "everyone on my wagon is scum" paranoia but then he didn't name anyone so VOTE STAYS.

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Lavender is town.

Vote Looker.

I don't find Lavender particularly town.

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I do think Looker is town, but I have no read on Lavender.

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I do think Looker is town, but I have no read on Lavender.

Why is he town?

His posts seem earnest, I am not seeing lack of effort, vagueness, scummy phrasing, etc.

Subjectively I enjoy his posts but that NAI.

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You're so observant.

Actually

He is very observant.

You've been, shall we say, owned.

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NPOM seems like a 3p to me at the very least, scum at the most.

I find this comment very scumteresting.

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But NPOM town is focusing on multiple players (๑´╹‸╹`๑)

Sorry this quote should have been there too.

LAVENDER: "NPOM is 3p, scum, and also town."

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Spoiler: @DGB

Thank you! How sweet. I'm 55!

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I change my mind on chkflop.

I'm going to join the TiphaineDeath vanitywagon, and de-vanitywagon it.

VOTE: chkflip

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I recant, even repudiate, my earlier NPOM scumread. I was wrong.

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@DGB: We're probably two of the older players in the game. Sorry you're scum.

Old - check
Scum - no check

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I feel like the quips at the bottom of your posts only serve to be inflammatory
They're not adding anything, they're purely just reactive commentary, and it's not nice stuff

Yet, it is those very quips that are at the basis of my game crush on Looker.

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why? does it mean anything for his alignment, if so, why?

I read it as town.

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@CHK at this point I feel like you're being contrarian/confrontational.

That's not necessarily scum, but with chkflip, it feels like Tasmanian Devil levels of unproductive confrontation.

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Pisskop is town

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I don't want scum to gain an advantage based on suggesting replace one.

Why do you assume scum would gain an advantage? Do you know something I don't?

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If I was scum I'd request replacement of a player I had rapport with.

In the thread. You do that IN THE THREAD.

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What a crazy notion.

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Gamma Emerald is town.

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I kinda think this outburst is +town for you though

Is it??? I think it's the opposite. I may have to rescind my recantation.

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Now that game is over I can say that that game is the reason I am town reading A50 this game. You seem much more calm and helpful.

I was TOWN in that game, so you should be SCUM READING me here if that's your argument. No?

WELL WELL WELL

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I got nothing out of the last 5 pages.

Ask not what the game can do for you, ask what you can do for the game.

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Spoiler:

Scum points for DGB, Lavender, Fish, Drew, and Dave.

So you're slaying it's fluff and not an actual faction?

The whole scenario seems very suspicious.

I'm not saying everyone in the band is scum or 3P. I'm saying it doesn't look like a pro town "faction" as a whole, and right now it looks scummier than town.

It wouldn't make sense to post your entire anti-town team in the main thread, after all.

I don't really get your point here?
I think it was just a joke as well with the Heal tags and all. 【・_・?】

It sounds to me like manufacturing paranoia, +1 scum point

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Spoiler:

Scum points for DGB, Lavender, Fish, Drew, and Dave.

So you're slaying it's fluff and not an actual faction?

The whole scenario seems very suspicious.

I'm not saying everyone in the band is scum or 3P. I'm saying it doesn't look like a pro town "faction" as a whole, and right now it looks scummier than town.

It wouldn't make sense to post your entire anti-town team in the main thread, after all.

I don't really get your point here?
I think it was just a joke as well with the Heal tags and all. 【・_・?】

It sounds to me like manufacturing paranoia, +1 scum point

Sounds to me like scum looking at all the top wagons being in their team and needing to do something, anything, to change the game state.

Just to be clear, I was referring to the NPOM posts in the spoiler tags.

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His scum list is long. Could be scum trying to keep options open.
He declares a scenario "suspicious." "I'm not saying everyone in the band is scum or 3P. I'm saying it doesn't look like a pro town "faction" as a whole, and right now it looks scummier than town."
What is this garbage about me being a cult leader???

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Right?

How is that a town mindset, he's throwing spaghetti at the wall and he's not even paying attention.

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Looker detractors are relying on antipathy to detect scum.

Their case is an Appeal To Hate, it's toxic.

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Sp, I deduce it's between NPOM, Looker & Walter today? Hmm.. none of them I feel strong enough either way, and I'm still weighing the fact NPOM TRs for the "wrong reasons", so to speak (he hard SR'd me in that finished game, so I accepted him TRing me here based the difference in my play .. until I flipped there. What's confusing me is that when that game was over and I pointed out I was Town he doubled down on his TR on me here, when I would have expected him to -maybe- have second thoughts or something!)

Still, there's this flavour thing, and I'd like rude to explain what he thinks it means in more depth if he could.

Q: If I have a closer look at Looker, does that mean I need to have a walt at Walter???

NOW THIS

This sounds like scum who really wants to make dure we keep looking at the same three players... AS LONG AS WE DON'T LOOK AT HIM!!!!!

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Three whole paragraphs to reinforce the notion, too.

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NPOM is pretty new still, right? Because the more I read his posts and the more he goes off on ridiculous tangentss (like the whole thing about replacements and this Pooky band thing), the more he reads as null or just real noobtown to me. No experienced players would be focused on these things.

I agree with that, but still I keep swinging on my read of the slot.

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I haven't played with her but I get the impression town DGB doesn't tunnel like this. Being paranoid is a town trait.

(1) Where do you get the impression I don't tunnel? Claim third party and you'll see.
(2) Being paranoid isn't a town trait - I know I love to cultivate paranoia as scum, I love to hid behind it, too.

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Although some players do have a consistently paranoid style...

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WOW do I hate the timing on that pook post.

Ok, DGB or dave, cause you two are like the only people I really trust right now, tell me I'm crazy here if you think I'm crazy. Does Pooky's #2524 not feel like cheeky as fuck scum, who does not have Chk as a buddy?

I don't really I understand what Pooky is saying with that post.

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I am back to thinking NPOM is town again, he has way too many town reads to be scum.

But is there 3P bullshittery????

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VOTE: chkflip
Meant to do this in the last post but getting PEdited distracted me

Alright!

We're 3 on the wagon now, right?

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Last VC just showed 1 person there, did you vote since then?

I did.

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I am willing to give Looker a chance to prove his scum hunting.

I appreciate chkflip 's more rational approach and have considered his argument.

Like Pooky, I skip the toxic stuff. It's never as convincing as the pugilists think it is.

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We need to decapitate someone and Looker is by far the best candidate imho.

Have you taken a good look at Tiphaine Death?

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Probably because "eliminate" and "evacuate" sound like bowel functions. "Decapitate" sounds more brainy. Until it doesn't.

ZING

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Just to be safe, can we like.. have Intent > claim before hammer?

P.S. Please do NOT unvote. If you do there will be no claim and then we will still get to this same position later on, so all you'd be doing is stalling the game.

@Looker: You can claim now if you like, or you can wait for intent. Your call.

NO!!!!!

Enough of this garbage

intent to claim.

LOOKER: Claim in your next post.

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I mean,

intent to hammer

.

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where do you get all these cool emojis >.>

(^◕ᴥ◕^)

Look up "Japenese Emojis"

You're welcome.

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VOTE: Lavender

And that's despite the fact that I was offended by Looker's birthday wish gif! Showing old ladies in an undignified manner like this... pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

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I assure you I ain't a differently named inventor. I just pick one of my things and it's a Global effect. Trust me I asked to be sure.

It sounds more like a scum role to me. Unknown global effect? How is that helpful to town?

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On that note, anyone who wants to attack a50 for pushing Looker can put their votes on me because I'm telling y'all a50 is town and you're gonna have to go through me first
That's right I'm holding myself accountable for someone else's vote, what you gonna do about it?

Scummilicious.

You are more certain of another player's towniness than your own.

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It's like a roulette wheel with good and bad options, I just happen to pick the option instead of luck.

If it's a town role, why are there bad options?

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It's called negative utility

Negative utility of unknown properties, how is that town?

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VOTE: chkflip

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shrug, it's a bastard game right?

But this makes zero sense. Don't shrug it off.

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I forget I was hoping scum got rid of Drip so I could live in peace.

How have I been bugging you?

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Eh, I make better fake claims then my actual role and anyone who doesn't make like five the instant they get scum are doing it wrong.

I've never seen this being done in any of the scum teams I've been on.

I've barely mentioned you, Bambi Jay. What did I say that single me out of the crowd, that I was on you mind hoping I'd be targeted for the night kill?

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Mainly cuz last game I realized you tunnel hard

You realized I tunneled hard (in another game), so in this game you wanted me dead?

Wouldn't it be a good thing if I tunneled on scum?

If you're town, that is.

If you're scum, I would understand that you'd put my name forward for the nightkill in your scum PT.

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how was yours?

Pooky don't let Bambi change the subject.

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Frankly it's more likely I would've left Titus alive to help deal with you if I was scum. Plus I like Titus. She would've had fun interactions with Chk.

I can't wait to read you scum PT.

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So I guess nows a good time to torch lav?

VOTE: lav

I could add a log to the bonfire.

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I will confirm that bambi is compressing my jimmies.




So I think its town.

Arright then.

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See? All I did was claim my role and now I'll just be scum in her eyes. Sad times.

All this AtE is awkward and weird.

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also a strong

FoS chkflip

Fucking come at me, dude.

You couldn't get it done yesterday.

All I'm saying is you replaced in, quickly saw there was no way anyone would believe you backing IKS, bussed him the fuck outta here.

Then, you took out Titus at night, for the reasons I previously mentioned.

And you hard-rode a mislynch D2.

It's not enough for a vote, but it's enough for suspicion.[/quote]

Don't be a chicken, just vote. Join me.

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On that note, anyone who wants to attack a50 for pushing Looker can put their votes on me because I'm telling y'all a50 is town and you're gonna have to go through me first
That's right I'm holding myself accountable for someone else's vote, what you gonna do about it?

Scummilicious.

You are more certain of another player's towniness than your own.

Or I’m convinced enough of it to put myself on the line (if you’re serious)

Nah.
Not buying it.

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The fact he suggested voting out a VT over a PR is in line with what I know of him

That's NAI.

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Her behavior around the Looker wagon is particularly bizarre IMO -- she defended Looker without an earnest attempt to derail the wagon, then said she intended to hammer, then didn't do so.

I liked Looker, I thought he was funny and clever - at first. Then as he kept posting I saw why he was perceived as abrasive and toxic. Having said that, I felt that Looker's entire wagon was based not on speculation about his alignment, with all but a really thin veneer of "analysis," but on deep seated animus that made it easy for players to get on board.

Iecerint, you ought to be embarrassed of your post.

What happened?

I demanded that Looker claim immediately.

I wrote: "Enough of this garbage intent to

claim

," which was an

error

. So in the following post, I

corrected

my mistake by posting "I mean, intent to

hammer

." I was not proclaiming an intent to hammer - mind you, I would gladly have swung it on Looker, or anyone, had he claim stalled. I am inflexible on that point in all games. Remember my sig? If you don't... read it. It's been there for over 10 years.

But Looker did claim, and I believed the claim. I am disappointed that he got eliminated due to hate rather than alignment.

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VOTE: DrippingGoofball

I already know you're scum, flip, you don't have to press the issue.

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VOTE: DGB
Before I thought it could be explained by being scum with NPOM, but it's been weird regardless of NPOM's alignment

I'm not sure about NPOM's alignment /drunkpost

Yeah OK, "weird" but no explanation LOL.

Iecerint making lazy shit cases and claiming being drunk to avoid accountability.

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Chk- Why the switch from Assemble to DGB?

I believe flip is scum who went for the low-hanging Looker poisoned fruit yesterday, I voted flip, so now he's voting me - encouraged perhaps by Pooky's scummy vote.

Also, there's no denying that Assemble is giving massive PR hints and town vibes LOL

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You mean Walter was giving PR hints and town vibes? Assemble hasn't posted yet except to say that they were going to catch up.

I was being sarcastic about Walter LOL

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Iecerint (Low total post count but seems reasonable and cogent when posting? NAI, really, if I look past my conf-bias on wanting reasonable to=town)

Look again, Iecerint has been singularly unimpressive.

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@ NPOM

The problem with ice is that he doesn't seem to be Town blocking and is always on his own island.

Iecerint is obsessively focused on you, and his stance on you is not nuanced by changes in your behavior or the game state.

I would call it "forced consistency." He doesn't want to have to explain changing his mind. He posted a player ranking fairly early in the game and while he only partially explained the ranking, he seems to have boxed himself in with it.

He has decided you're scum, and that's it. Now he's decided I'm scum too... based on my interactions with you, which he is has no choice but to call bus'ing since he threw the both of us together in the scum pile very early.

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low-hanging Looker poisoned fruit yesterday,

I can't laugh at this statement hard enough.

I pushed the fuck out of that wagon only for it to almost not come to fruition on several occasions. Low-hanging fruit my ass, lady. NPOM and Lavender were the low hangs and I touched neither of them.

Nice try, though.

OK, so not low-hanging. But still poisoned. A player you wanted out because of dislike.

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Chk- Why the switch from Assemble to DGB?

Trust in those voting.

And because I am voting for YOU.

I don't believe many players are trusting Pooky in this game. And Iecerint, upon scrutiny, has not earned trust.

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Yeah OK, "weird" but no explanation LOL.

Iecerint making lazy shit cases and claiming being drunk to avoid accountability.

I've discussed what's weird about your play already, starting as early as D1. And, I know you are aware of it because you've responded to it already.

There's literally NOTHING "weird" about my play. You just decided it's weird. It's not.

YOUR play is weird.

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I'm pretty shitty at finding scum.

I'm easily impressed... just bus!

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That didn't happen until I had a well-established scum read on him.

Your read was wrong, and it's hard to tell where a scumread begins and hate ends. I will not parse it; I have not read a single post from the unfortunate spat of hostilities.

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Don't take guff from the ping pong racket.

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OMGUS and LHF. That's two.

Left-handed fapping?

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I'm conflicted on weather to stay on Death or switch to Assemble

Why not switch to DGB?

Iecerint, the fact that you didn't question your old stance after my answers is scummilicious.

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Ooooo weeeee Starbuck is town.

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I am no longer reading NPOM as scum. I will not vote there.

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Very high probability.

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VOTE: TD

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I am no longer reading NPOM as scum. I will not vote there.

Why not?

He is spontaneous, sincere and persistent in his scumhunting.

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Here are TD's last 5 games. He was town in all 5 and he has been endgamed, so he's obviously not dumb. He seems like caught scum to me.

Mini Theme 2112 Eliminated Day 1 - Town Weaponsmith
Mini Theme 2097 Eliminated Night 2 - Town Copscetic
Mini Theme 2091 - Endgamed - Town Citizen
Guns and Roses II - Endgamed - Town Gun
Mini Normal 1904 - Endgamed, Town 2 Shot Bulletproof

What informed minority scum wastes time on trash meta?

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Actually let me walk back the "trash" part.

I always say that meta is trash for a variety of reasons:

• Every game is a melting pot of personalities to whom every player reacts to in their own personal way.
  
• Every game day is a microcosm that becomes more differentiated and complex as the game progresses.
  
• Game A might inspire a player to be in a good mood, while Game B will make the same player morose.
  
• No player doing "meta analysis" is reading 5 different 157 page games, absorbing all the situational subtleties and coming up with conclusions better than random chance.

However, now that I think about it, NPOM's analysis is different. He is not looking at interactions, particular posts, wordings, perceived strategies, but end-of-game binary outcomes: "endgamed" or "not endgamed." It's a very simple test, 0 or 1.

His analysis is in fact useful and directly contradicts TD's declarations.

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TD is plain scum giving up, his lazy "reads list" fools no one, full speed ahead CHOO CHOO

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Hey DGB, you want to lynch me, I'm cool with it, I heckin' deserve it, but find me one scum game of mine where I "gave up," ever, I dare you .

Meta is trash, LOL, and there's a first time for everything.

BYEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Gamma Emerald is town.

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Hey, remember when Death scum slipped on D1 and then y'all forgot about it?

Yeah I just revisited that. That's cool.

VOTE: assemblerotws

Fuck this slot.

He says that's before, and after the CLAIM.

The VANILLA claim.

Did I get that right?

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I mean, he's scum, and he knows I'm town, so yeh, you got it right xD.

Yes I know he is scum, too.

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Pffffffffffffffffffft

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What do you mean by "only not on town?"

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The IKS was anomalous in one respect.

It must gave immediately obvious, and perhaps even alarming, to scum that IKS had outed the scum team flavor.

It may not have been so cut and dry from a townie perspective. Each townie sees only their own flavor, and has to clear sense of the overall flavor of the town.

The "developer" could have been town.

The scum could have been drummers, roadies, fans...

Scum on that wagon would be VERY SURE that IKS' flavor did not fit, and probably bus'ed hard after the claim.

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Ebwop

Has NO clear sense

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DGB is looking increasingly scummy. Looking at her iso it looks like she talks to the whole player base at large rather than specific people and is not game solving.

VOTE: DGB

Vote for me if you have to, but addressing the whole player base is how I roll.

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Mmmmmm

TD might be town.

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NPOM is also out to lunch with regards to his comment on my game solving, if anything I am super extra game solvy.

Sounds like scum rushing for an excuse to wagon. Just when I was convincing myself that he's town, I am going to have to think about this again.

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I don't believe my play style has changed.

In this game, chkflip has been foaming at the mouth aggressive and unpleasant, I was put off by the Looker/chkflip hostilities, NPOM is a short post spammer, so in terms of game space, I feel squeezed on the sidelines more than usual. The game atmosphere isn't the worst I've ever seen, but there a lot if fun is being sucked out of it.

If you take a minute to iso me, I am just as spirited as ever.

If you take a minute to look at the reasons for which I am being, you'll see that there are none that stand even cursory examination.

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@Gamma: Read my 3412 for starters. I don't believe DGB -of all players- misses the simple fact that the theme/flavour of this game is

guitarists

(and not drummers.. etc). yet she claims to have been using "flavour" to solve the game. Add her -inexplicable to me- pushes on NPOM and TD (and most recently her flip of a read on TP calling them town when she had been pushing for a hammer on them because "they feel like scum giving up"..). I mean this is most certainly the DGB I'm used to. This isn't the same DGB that played in the previous game either. Town!DGB is much more hyper, opinionated, intuitive, and stubborn, but -most of all- does NOT miss the initial info the mod had revealed well before the game ever started: We are all GUITARISTS!

So I guess I'm perceiving this DGB version as a somewhat refined version of Scum!stina or something close.. although -come to think about it- not even scum!stina would have missed/pretended to miss the theme/flavour altogether, so this feels even a biy worse than scum!stina.

Re: role flavor -

YOU HAVE NOT READ MY ISO

- if you're town, go read it and hang your head in shame. I repeat: hang your head in shame.

If you want some trash meta, go read my most recent finished game where

a scum outed his scum flavor on Day 2 (or was I day 1?)

, and

everyone missed this, including me.

The rest is trash meta "I am

PERCEIVING

this and that and DGB

would

do this and that and DGB is

like

a

version

of another player" -

This is exactly the kind of case that scum feel safe making. All about your feefees and how you decided I should act. A bunch of

weasel words

from someone who's not reading.

Scurry back to your PT and beg your scum pals for advice.

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This actually makes a lot of sense.

Read it again and count the weasel words. The maybes, the ifs, the "I mean this is most certainly" and the trash...

OMG that reminds me

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=83473

Almost50 PLAYED IN THAT GAME WHERE EVERYONE MISSED THE SCUM FLAVOR

Adorable/pisskop/Thun has claimed "Clint Rosewood" the scum flavor https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12005102 and everyone missed it.

Lavender was in this game... Pooky was in this game... chkflip... Iecerint....

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Re: role flavor - YOU HAVE NOT READ MY ISO - if you're town, go read it and hang your head in shame. I repeat: hang your head in shame.

Could you actually say how your ISO demonstrates that you overlooking basic information from the sign-ups isn’t actually scummy? The part I see as valuable in that assessment is that you reached for a reason to hunt out certain people and landed on a reason that makes no sense. I would expect town

in general

to try to make a more sensible suggestion about what to look for. I’d be able to write it off if you weren’t really paying attention or into the game but that’s clearly not the case rn.

Even IKS scum felt his own role was close enough to the guitarist flavor that he felt safe outing it.

I'm going to guess you didn't read my iso, either.

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I also feel like you’re inflating the density of the weasel words in that post, and they don’t even seem like weasel words to begin with. I myself tend to talk like that to try and convey my thought process, as I try not to present myself as more confident than I really am.

You'd feel it more strongly if the method was used against you by someone who hasn't read your iso.

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@DGB When's the last time you were wagoned without a result?

1983

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Maybe she thinks she's got some form of entitlement not to be wagoned?

You bet, but especially in this game since people should read my iso???

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OMG it's not even a crumb, it's fooooooocking explicitly stated, are you guys for real???????

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Harsh, but probably fair.

it doesn’t resemble any of her many town games either,

Wrong. It directly mirrors her most recent town game. While I believe she has the ability to attempt to mimmick that energy, I don't believe she has the ability to completely replicate it for the sake of the handful of players that were in that game. Most of which aren't (or weren't, I'm not paying incredibly close attention to it. No reason to.) town-reading her. I feel there would be a better attempt at "content" if replicating a past failed behavioral trait was leading to her elimination as the opposite alignment. It's about the context for me. While I'd love to actually see content from the slot, the same could be said about the slot I we just voting as well as several other slots currently having similar lackadaisical showings here.

WEASEL WORDS DETECTED

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I want it entered in the permanent record how shitty your manufactured meta is, thank you very much, Mr. "While I believe" and "While I believe" "I feel" "context for me" "While I'd love"

Please look at Iecerint again, he's probably dying of embarrassment with his garbage "feelings" case on me, he doesn't want to show his face to me.

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chkflip is absolutely scum. Take it to the bank.

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Harsh, but probably fair.

it doesn’t resemble any of her many town games either,

Wrong. It directly mirrors her most recent town game.

While I believe

she has the ability to attempt to mimmick that energy,

I don't believe

she has the ability to completely replicate it for the sake of the handful of players that were in that game. Most of which aren't (or weren't,

I'm not paying incredibly close attention

to it. No reason to.) town-reading her.

I feel

there would be a better attempt at "content" if replicating a past failed behavioral trait was leading to her elimination as the opposite alignment. It's about the

context for me

.

While I'd love

to actually see content from the slot, the same could be said about the slot I we just voting as well as several other slots currently having similar lackadaisical showings here.

WEASEL WEASEL WEASEL

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Scum emotion to me.

That's rich coming from you.

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Scum emotion to me.

Are you even READING???????

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She just said I was a bad elim not that long ago.

correct

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Defense of DGB noted.

It will prove to be to his credit.

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I really really think from the bottom of my heart DGB might be over reactive.

I was going for "in your face" not "bottom of hearts" LOL

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I love all the people trying to meta the "Meta Is Trash" lady.

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I'm still not all that convinced that the guy who did a universal roleblock that didn't stop the faction NK is town.

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Well friends, the night was uneventful kill wise.

Oops I missed this.

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She has been uncharacteristically disengaged this game

You can't be serious.

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VOTE: DGB

OK let's do me

You guys already know I am a power role, which I laid out explicitly, not "breadcrumbed

NO RESULTS FOR YOU

You guys blow chunks

I'm gonna head to the dead thread with my buddy @kuribo and root for the scum

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ByyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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chkflip is scum
Iecerint is scum

Not that you'll care

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You're too chickenshit to go after chkflip because he's a rage-o-holic
And you're intimidated by Iecerint

Go parse these scumbags, will you?

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Oldest player in the game

if i was mature i wouldn t be here in the first place

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I am eager to team up with kuribo in the dead thread.


it's very noble

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Ok cool I was right VOTE: DGB

You're the goddam worse.

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That's shred-3 IIRC.

PLEASE HURRY

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ok nvm it wasnt a self hammer, just a self vote. I do that pretty often to prove a point actually.

I know you know I am town

Please analyze the livid daylights of this absolute trash wagon when I'm gone, I'll be cheering you on

Guaranteed that Iecerint is scum, flip I'm 85% sure

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living not livid, but cool typo

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Lavender claimed some personal woes, gave everyone the sads.
TD AtE'd, claimed the sads.
NPOM will board any wagon, even if it doesn't stop at his station.

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My eyes can't possibly roll harder into the back of my fucking head.

Remember that game I read you as town despite a tide against you? You're not giving me the warm fuzzies in this game, but it's hard to parse if you're scum or simply a toxic rage beast.

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And you're doing what, exactly, if not AtE'ing? Hm?

Fighting the good fight?

Give me a fucking break.

I AM THE QUEEN OF ATE

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If I'm not yeeted, I'm going to be NK'd

Let's just do it.

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At the same time, I good good feels from IKS because he claimed quickly, and

his role description has some parallels with mine.

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Though I do want to hear what these parallels are since he flipped scum

He said his abilities change over time, and mine change on a probalistic basis.

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DGB is self-consciously paraphrasing the quote in her signature.

I don't have to claim at E-3 when I'm self-voting, SCUM

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I literally said

It has

SOME

PARALLELS

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You didn't claim what you actually do tho just said it's like IKS. Is it literally his except odd nights or something?

I mean, do you want to give the scum more reasons to NK me?

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I'm at E-5

Is that what you kids are calling CLAIM TIME these days?

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I love you Pooky, it pains me to say that you're scum.

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So, minus FIVE. We claim at minus five.

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Touché