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JacksonVirgo · Post Post #74 (isolation #0) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:00 pm

In post 12, bugspray wrote:VOTE: Jackson Virgo for that time tse claimed mason with you as scum when you were vt and then you went along with it

But I'm masons with you rn...

VOTE: bugspray

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #75 (isolation #1) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:02 pm

In post 22, Grendel wrote:First game here in a while. Im interested to see how site meta has changed, what the players are like now, how I hold up as a player, etc

Please do me a favor and outline your typical playstyle with these questions:

Intuitive, or analytical?
Independent, or Collaborative?
Aggressive, or Passive?

I will respond to my own questions once I get some responses to the survey. As this is my first post I would also like to say good luck to you all! Hopefully this will be a good game!

I only remember scum doing these.
I would say a mix of both intuitive and analytical. My main scum-reads are usually from intuition but my town-reads are from analysing stuff if that makes any sense.
I'm more of an independent player.
Depending on what my goal for the game is, generally if I know people I go a bit aggressive but otherwise I am more passive-aggressive.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #76 (isolation #2) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:03 pm

In post 23, Noraa wrote:I dont have a "typical playstyle" yet. its more just a huge mess of fluff and random comments thrown in whenever I feel like it

Noraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! HEY!

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #77 (isolation #3) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:03 pm

In post 25, Odd Day Jester wrote:
In post 24, Odd Day Jester wrote:I'm not town
Discuss

I think they're town guys

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #78 (isolation #4) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:05 pm

In post 40, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I know Jackson, Sausage and think i've played with Bugspray once.

I hosted a game with Noraa, Mundivore, Radados.

And I've played with bugspray, MiniMegabyte (off-site), shellyc and Norwegian.

I will know if you're a scum boi >:)

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #79 (isolation #5) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:06 pm

In post 42, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 39, Grendel wrote:Good to know NorwegianGuy.
Call me Norwee plz.

Oh do you prefer that? Or do you not mind if I call you NEE

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #80 (isolation #6) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:06 pm

In post 49, Morning Tweet wrote:
beep beep

I'm a sheep

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #82 (isolation #7) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:08 pm

In post 65, shellyc wrote:who tf starts a game at 3am for people on the other side of the world

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

Noraa's making forced reads makes /my/ scum radar go off tbh

In post 22, Grendel wrote:Please do me a favor and outline your typical playstyle with these questions:
Intuitive, or analytical?
Independent, or Collaborative?
Aggressive, or Passive?

Intuitive
- (in my limited town!shelly games) I like making reads off behaviourally, sticking to my gut rather than logic, especially early game

Independent
- ive never been a team player

Aggressive
- I like to push people early and question their motives as either alignment

Lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooo, vote me then instantly say you've got scum pings from noraa. Nice

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #87 (isolation #8) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:10 pm

In post 84, bugspray wrote:
In post 16, Noraa wrote:wait actually is that supposed to be TSTBS?
ur intro is either too bold to be scum or smart smart scum.
LAMIST via TSTBS

pedit not reading that
god dammit i have like two posts getting pedited rn mafia sucks
I JUST PEDITED MYSELF FUCKING HELL

Glorious

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #94 (isolation #9) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:13 pm

In post 89, shellyc wrote:don't like LAMIST either

jackson talk to me

Hello, how was your day

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #107 (isolation #10) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:24 pm

Noraa is generally more stiff as scum because she's new, she's more loose here and she's probably Town.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #110 (isolation #11) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:26 pm

In post 104, Noraa wrote:
In post 76, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 23, Noraa wrote:I dont have a "typical playstyle" yet. its more just a huge mess of fluff and random comments thrown in whenever I feel like it
Noraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! HEY!
hewwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!! ps. I was gonna /out this game cuz I got too many games going on rn. but then I was like hmmmm I do wanna play a game with Jackson so I'm here

Also fyi the moment I saw ur first post, I just thought of when I got my first role pm and my reply was "I'm confused"

Oh that's why you wanted to play? I feel special lel

pedit: ??

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #112 (isolation #12) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:27 pm

In post 109, bugspray wrote:jackson i appreciate the input but i don't trust your reads after that game i mentioned when i opening rvs'd you so please give me more

What game would this be?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #114 (isolation #13) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:28 pm

I hosted a scum!noraa game (it was also scum!shelly). I'll go and quote a few things now brb

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #119 (isolation #14) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:30 pm

I might be wrong, hold up. Let me compare their current ISO to their old early D1 iso.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #123 (isolation #15) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:33 pm

Spoiler: This Game

Spoiler: THat game

.

I see a massive content difference just on the first few of their posts.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #128 (isolation #16) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:36 pm

In post 127, Odd Day Jester wrote:
In post 126, Morning Tweet wrote:.
Unlucky. You'll get it next time.

pog

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #137 (isolation #17) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:44 pm

In post 133, Odd Day Jester wrote:
In post 124, Noraa wrote:These are my top favs:

(ranked favorite to least)
(I just realized I like more than )
charge me for these emojis jester im quite loaded with my hot ten dollar bill
I forgive you since you didn't include the god-forsaken "giggling" emoji. Anyone who uses that is either not in right mind or just plain scum.

I'll put $10 on your tab though.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #141 (isolation #18) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:49 pm

I think Noraa is LHF which everyone is jumping on

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #160 (isolation #19) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:00 pm

In post 149, MiniMegabyte wrote:
In post 138, shellyc wrote:
DAYVIG: JacksonVirgo

this is lockscum

jackson / noraa game solved
Wait a sec. What if.... Jackson and Noraa are both scum. Because Jackson is trying to prove them to be town here by going into other games and really trying. Hmmm...

I'm more of the bussing type

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #164 (isolation #20) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:01 pm

In post 151, Noraa wrote:
In post 149, MiniMegabyte wrote:
In post 138, shellyc wrote:
DAYVIG: JacksonVirgo

this is lockscum

jackson / noraa game solved
Wait a sec. What if.... Jackson and Noraa are both scum. Because Jackson is trying to prove them to be town here by going into other games and really trying. Hmmm...
sheep alert

Yeah alright I see why you think Noraa is scummy

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #170 (isolation #21) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:03 pm

But I still think Noraa is a LHF town

pedit: it's not self-meta is just letting you know that I tend to not buddy with my partners. There's a fine difference between self-meta and just letting you know that your read is trash and wrong

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #174 (isolation #22) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:04 pm

In post 162, MiniMegabyte wrote:
In post 156, Odd Day Jester wrote:MinisculeGigabyte, what do you think of Noraa's play so far?
Noraa is very active which is a good thing but I don’t think they have as much game advancing content as 72 does they are more just posting I haven’t really seen anything that says Noraa is any alignment tbh but with Jackson trying to defend them using other games is a red flag to me

Why is it a red-flag? I don't want town lynched so I don't want to lynch over reasonings I do not believe in, so I double check with meta

pedit: I know mini irl, and I play some discord mafia games with them. They never believe me no matter what happens until I am confirmed town.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #177 (isolation #23) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:06 pm

In post 176, MiniMegabyte wrote:
In post 173, shellyc wrote:
In post 168, MiniMegabyte wrote:Am I supposed to take your word for that? It’s just seems off to me
megabyte don't you have offsite experience with jackson
I don’t think I’ve played a game with them where they were scum tho

You've only played games with me as town. Yet you're still super paranoid

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #184 (isolation #24) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:13 pm

Mini's reads are generally really good, but they're easy LHF

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #217 (isolation #25) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:45 pm

In post 197, Odd Day Jester wrote:
In post 164, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 151, Noraa wrote:
In post 149, MiniMegabyte wrote:
In post 138, shellyc wrote:
DAYVIG: JacksonVirgo

this is lockscum

jackson / noraa game solved
Wait a sec. What if.... Jackson and Noraa are both scum. Because Jackson is trying to prove them to be town here by going into other games and really trying. Hmmm...
sheep alert
Yeah alright I see why you think Noraa is scummy
What was wrong with Noraa's post there, Jacko? I didn't like Mini's take there originally either.

The "sheep alert" is just plain scummy but I think that's just LHF material

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #221 (isolation #26) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:47 pm

In post 209, shellyc wrote:I don't entertain counterfactuals, sorry

I have noraa as lockscum aorn and nothing else

Shelly, not going to lie here, lockscumming early d1 is really stupid

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #225 (isolation #27) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:48 pm

In post 214, Odd Day Jester wrote:
In post 41, Grendel wrote:
In post 38, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 34, Noraa wrote:phew this game is gonna be rough. two pages in and my scum radar's already gone off multiple times. these entrances are really making me question everything...
Scumreading people for their entrance is a fools errand.
TBH im disappointed you publicly came to this conclusion so soon. I was interested to see what other's reactions to RedGarodos and Jester were.

We could have gotten out of the boring RVS fun time much faster.
Why can't others react to RedCharmander/NotAJester despite Norwee making that post?

The latter line seems a little
LAMIST
too. I have enlarged the buzzword as I have been informed that people are a fan of these.

VOTE: Grendel

I can sheep this
VOTE: Grendel

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #236 (isolation #28) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:51 pm

In post 228, shellyc wrote:JV sheeping is -3 townpoints

Yeah fuck off

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #240 (isolation #29) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:52 pm

In post 231, shellyc wrote:
In post 47, duppin wrote:id be surprised if anyone has a scumread at this point. i think there is a difference between something being scummy and something being anti town. I voted on jester because I think his play has been very anti town so far
this line is weird. it's very protown to give early scumreads

VOTE: duppin

I don't like this line

That seems very townie tbh

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #243 (isolation #30) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:54 pm

Scum also ike to scumread people early on. Town usually have nothing to go on and thus aren't as confident as you are.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #246 (isolation #31) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:55 pm

In post 242, Saudade wrote:
In post 237, shellyc wrote:
In post 230, Saudade wrote:VOTE: minimegaexcept this one, such a weak entrance
saude top tier read time

tbh i don't think the entrance was very weak? explain
Well she felt the need to explain her rvs vote.. like an excuse
And the first post beforehand was a quote to something not game related either

She's still not very confident in FM so that's more of a personality thing, take that from me who knows her irl. Or wait for shelly to have an S/S read on us because they like stretching the truth

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #252 (isolation #32) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:56 pm

In post 249, Odd Day Jester wrote:
In post 243, JacksonVirgo wrote:Scum also ike to scumread people early on. Town usually have nothing to go on and thus aren't as confident as you are.
Yeah, and I actually like duppin's blatant admittance at voting me for being anti-town, rather than me being scummy.

Yeah same duppin is probably town for that

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #256 (isolation #33) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:57 pm

In post 253, shellyc wrote:im a bit shocked at how y'all give townpass to duppin vs. majority TR on noraa
i wonder if this is alignment indicative

Im a bit shocked how you just ignore the reasonings to "townpass" duppin and majority TR on noraa I wonder if this is alignment indicative

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #261 (isolation #34) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:59 pm

In post 259, shellyc wrote:
In post 256, JacksonVirgo wrote:Im a bit shocked how you just ignore the reasonings to "townpass" duppin and majority TR on noraa I wonder if this is alignment indicative
this is a scumslip

Lmfao

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #263 (isolation #35) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:59 pm

I'm not entirely sure if shelly's cockiness and/or retaliatory attitude this game is AI. I only have known their scum games.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #266 (isolation #36) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:00 pm

In post 264, shellyc wrote:
I WAS BAITING.

not directly attacking me for bullshitting. TMI

What

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #268 (isolation #37) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:01 pm

In post 267, shellyc wrote:I was planning to test the wagon speed on jv, but turns out everyone dipped

Uhhh, what

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #271 (isolation #38) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:02 pm

In post 269, Odd Day Jester wrote:
In post 263, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm not entirely sure if shelly's cockiness and/or retaliatory attitude this game is AI. I only have known their scum games.
She's so much less confident/cocky in her completed towngame. That's what scares me a little.

So you're saying more confident/cocky is scum!ai? As far as you are aware of course

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #274 (isolation #39) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:02 pm

In post 270, shellyc wrote:The duppin thingy was also bait.

I find the TR when I bullshitted pretty indicative of town!duppin

So you're 180'ing on your own read by giving the excuse of "haha lol it was a bait"

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #276 (isolation #40) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:03 pm

In post 273, shellyc wrote:
In post 268, JacksonVirgo wrote:Uhhh, what
I was trying to see if anyone would jump on.

it's indicative of scum!jv tbh

You voted literally seconds before saying it was a bait, the fuck are you on

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #277 (isolation #41) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:03 pm

Oh that was a close one!

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #280 (isolation #42) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:04 pm

Shelly is flailing like nothing I've seen before

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #284 (isolation #43) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:06 pm

In post 282, shellyc wrote:
In post 276, JacksonVirgo wrote:You voted literally seconds before saying it was a bait, the fuck are you on
your reaction was like this:

If it's town!you you would basically say "NO I DIDN'T SCUMSLIP WTF YOU'RE SCUM FRAMING ME“
scum!you knows I am town!me and therefore did not immedatiely scumread me

i got the reaction I wanted

Uh what. Name a town game of mine which I did that. Also, what

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #286 (isolation #44) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:06 pm

I can't wait for others to react to what shelly just said lol

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #287 (isolation #45) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:08 pm

The thing is I am not sure if shelly is just incredibly cocky and think they're the best scum-reader in the world or they're scum.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #291 (isolation #46) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:11 pm

In post 289, Odd Day Jester wrote:Have you played any games with shelly, Jacko? Or is it just the game you modded for her?

Only completed game I've seen of theirs is my hosted game. Not sure what I am allowed to say beyond that so I'll leave it at that.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #292 (isolation #47) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:12 pm

In post 290, shellyc wrote:
In post 284, JacksonVirgo wrote:Uh what. Name a town game of mine which I did that. Also, what
I'm generalising

So you really have nothing, are you reading from a wiki page from 2012 or something.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #298 (isolation #48) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:15 pm

In post 293, shellyc wrote:
In post 292, JacksonVirgo wrote:So you really have nothing, are you reading from a wiki page from 2012 or something.
no lol

its not from 2012

I understand why you've been so useless. News flash, you're using that information wrong.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #300 (isolation #49) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:16 pm

In post 296, shellyc wrote:the way you flip on me concerns me a tiny bit

Something something OMGUS for the 3rd time this game

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #303 (isolation #50) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:17 pm

Yeah fuck off you meant that. Lmfao
VOTE: shellyc

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #311 (isolation #51) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:19 pm

In post 308, Saudade wrote:yeah mega was reactionary during her whole stay here, mostly just replying/reacting to other posts and reads

She tends to do that as town, I don't remember ever reading into a scum-game of theirs that much so not sure if it's NAI or town!ai. But I could also be wrong

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #317 (isolation #52) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:21 pm

Shelly ignoring logic and meta against them is cute, appealing to ridicule

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #319 (isolation #53) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:22 pm

In post 313, shellyc wrote:jackson fence-sitting again

How am I fence-sitting, I clearly SR you and I clearly TR mini. If that's fence-sitting, I will shit bricks

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #322 (isolation #54) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:23 pm

In post 321, shellyc wrote:
In post 311, JacksonVirgo wrote:
But I could also be wrong

Bruh

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #325 (isolation #55) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:24 pm

In post 320, shellyc wrote:
In post 317, JacksonVirgo wrote:Shelly ignoring logic and meta against them is cute, appealing to ridicule
note to self regarding this post

I come from a chat mafia site where I have the reputation for being aggressive + assertive

also
meta is trash

Cool, yet obviously town!you on this site is not as aggressive according to jester and I'm supposed to just trust your word for it.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #329 (isolation #56) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:26 pm

Shelly: Gives meta read on themselves.
Also Shelly: Meta is trash

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #331 (isolation #57) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:26 pm

Wow, did shelly just do what I think they just did

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #336 (isolation #58) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:28 pm

My most accurate reads come from meta, I caught two scum in D1 because of it once.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #340 (isolation #59) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:30 pm

I don't meta-read often don't worry, but I do agree that it's a solid resource to tap into but not use as a case on it's own.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #342 (isolation #60) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:31 pm

In post 339, Saudade wrote:My most accurate reads come from my big

Nice

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #343 (isolation #61) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:31 pm

In post 341, shellyc wrote:idk why confidence is a scumtell since scum usually hedge their bets since they know all info and need to be careful as to how much they can be wrong

Dude, it's not a scum-tell. It's YOUR scum-tell

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #346 (isolation #62) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:32 pm

In post 344, shellyc wrote:bowing down to saude and trying not to be controversial, +5 scumpoints

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

Wait were you not voting me before? Aight

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #348 (isolation #63) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:33 pm

You can think that all you want

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #350 (isolation #64) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:34 pm

I'm gonna leave and hopefully when I get back shelly is less toxic lel. Byeeeeeeeeeee

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #390 (isolation #65) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:58 pm

Redados SRing a common TR is town-telling.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #392 (isolation #66) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:59 pm

In post 391, Odd Day Jester wrote:I wouldn't say Saudade is a common TR here.

Oh? I thought a lot of people were TRing them

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #398 (isolation #67) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:01 pm

We need NEE here fam

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #403 (isolation #68) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:04 pm

In post 400, shellyc wrote:why NEE and not anyone else?

pedit: explain noraa then

Because NEE is NEE and if they're town they will stabilize the town

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #413 (isolation #69) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:09 pm

Posting readlists are semi-useless.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #416 (isolation #70) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:10 pm

What benefit does posting constant readlists do

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #417 (isolation #71) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:11 pm

Also what benefit does saying -3 town points evne do outside of discrediting.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #423 (isolation #72) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:13 pm

In post 419, Odd Day Jester wrote:
In post 416, JacksonVirgo wrote:What benefit does posting constant readlists do
I don't expect mine to help others. It's more helpful to myself than anything else.

That's why I usually get a private PT, regardless of alignment to not clog up the day thread and to keep notes.

I see constant read-lists as both annoying and as fake content.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #432 (isolation #73) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:16 pm

In post 425, shellyc wrote:
In post 423, JacksonVirgo wrote:I see constant read-lists as both annoying and as fake content.
how is it fake content to state your stances on others. weird

Producing actual content is better than any read-list ever.

Anyone can say
Mundivore - Town.
Jester - Town
Shelly - scum.

Actually saying "Jester is probably town because they're actively scum-reading and they are actually adapting their reads in a progressive way, shelly is scum because o their flailing regarding the reaction test and incredible retaliatory actions towards anyone that even shows any kind of scum-read or attack on themself"

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #460 (isolation #74) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:24 pm

In post 449, Saudade wrote:oh boy the next time somebody scumreads me its gonna be a blast

Saudade this is not ok. Every game I play with you, you come tell me ur gonna SR me bc of my playstyle. if uk that it's 100% biased and not reliable, then y tf r u bringing it up? I don't think this is AI since it has happened more than once but dude can you cut it out? You told us a few posts ago that you played three games with shelly and two she was scum and the other you got a day one lim on town!shelly. Do you not see a problem here? You need to look at each game separately while referencing what you need to reference, not carry a bias/grudge from game to game and literally start each game off by telling everyone u SR me or shelly bc of our playstyle. It's not cool, its not helpful, and I don't think the people you do it to appreciate it. Can you stop?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #484 (isolation #75) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:34 pm

In post 470, Noraa wrote:YALL SUCK
specifically Jackson and Saudade
u two both owe me lots of money >:(
and I want interest too <.<

Sorry :c

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #541 (isolation #76) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:57 pm

In post 490, Noraa wrote:(insert name) is scum. To begin with your entire play is scummy. Your first posts? Bleh. They looked like you copy pasted some random townies posts from some other game. You even copied an extra name that DOESN'T happen to be your name. All these points made on you are very valid yet you have failed to reply to any of them which shows you have nothing to say to all these Fos' and SRs on you. Your play as town is less scummy and you actually try to push the game forward whereas right now your just a sneaky little scum trying to go with the flow. Please get better reads and learn to play a better scum game. Much appreciated ^^
(your name)

Your welcome and u guys better use it otherwise I just wasted 5 minutes thinking this up

Noraa is scum. To begin with your entire play is scummy. Your first posts? Bleh. They looked like you copy pasted some random townies posts from some other game. You even copied an extra name that DOESN'T happen to be your name. All these points made on you are very valid yet you have failed to reply to any of them which shows you have nothing to say to all these Fos' and SRs on you. Your play as town is less scummy and you actually try to push the game forward whereas right now your just a sneaky little scum trying to go with the flow. Please get better reads and learn to play a better scum game. Much appreciated ^^
JV

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #542 (isolation #77) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:59 pm

In post 520, shellyc wrote:
In post 512, Grendel wrote:Can you please hold my hand like im a small child and talk me through the reads you have on one another.
yes

Jackson perspective slipped when I tried to bait and TMI'd that I was town therefore scum
Noraa is self aware and has very artificial reads and isn't solving therefore scum
jester is a big null
megabyte's paranoia reads genuine
red's reads are cool and good logical trajectories + genuine
saude is town for meta reasons and for aggro pushing on people. isn't afraid to stand out with mini vote either

Explain how I perspective slipped.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #560 (isolation #78) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:55 pm

In post 544, Grendel wrote:Oh, Jackson, you have many games showing the level at which you can bus laying around?

I only have 2 scum games on the site rn (except an SK game)

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=81576
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=82510

I remember soft-bussing my buddy in 1974 (which led to a loss) and I do not remember 1993 but I don't remember bussing. In my discord mafia and my home site games I bus a lot and I really shouldn't lol.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #561 (isolation #79) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:56 pm

In post 546, shellyc wrote:can you elaborate on this?? like I don't think Jackson's view is especially townie

pers. slip was when I baited you you returned with a TR on me

How the fuck is that a perspective slip. If you're saying that if you SR me I have to SR you back immediately you're delusional. Town suspects town all the time and it's not AI in the slightest by itself.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #647 (isolation #80) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:41 am

In post 562, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 79, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 42, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 39, Grendel wrote:Good to know NorwegianGuy.
Call me Norwee plz.
Oh do you prefer that? Or do you not mind if I call you NEE
That’s fine too. But Norwegianguy reminds me of that awkward portion of my childhood where my acc was named that and someone stole it and impersonated me.

Oh alright, didn't want to overstep or anything

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #648 (isolation #81) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:42 am

In post 568, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 219, shellyc wrote:quoting myself, sometimes town are just... town
You better stop quoting that right now sir, i’m still pretty angry about you-know-what.

Oofers indeed

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #649 (isolation #82) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:42 am

In post 569, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Noraa and Shelly, you two both have that fucking evening sun avi and it’s the most confusing thing EVER.

I just hosted a newbie game with them both as scum and it was hilarious

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #650 (isolation #83) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:43 am

In post 570, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 242, Saudade wrote:
In post 237, shellyc wrote:
In post 230, Saudade wrote:VOTE: minimegaexcept this one, such a weak entrance
saude top tier read time

tbh i don't think the entrance was very weak? explain
Well she felt the need to explain her rvs vote.. like an excuse
And the first post beforehand was a quote to something not game related either
Saudade explaining his reads. Lockscum.

I am seeing this as a joke but does this hold any actual weight?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #652 (isolation #84) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:45 am

In post 594, duppin wrote:well thats a lot of spam, i guess the timezone difference could end up being an issue
i almost want to vote norwegianboyee for the annoying one line spam but given you are probably the only one in the same timezome as me ill ignore it for now

Anyway I don't really want to argue against the townreads on me because I think that is awkward, however what I will say is that I would probably not townread someone for doing it because I am of the opinion that as scum it is very easy to push policy lynches as it is easy to justify and a good way of participating in the game.
In other words if Jester is town then it would be very easy for scum to justify a vote on him because due to his play he is pretty much just a policy lynch at this point.
I actually agree with what Jester said regarding meta and I am sure he understands that that is why I am voting on him. Do I believe Jester is scum? I am of the opinion that it would be dumb and a bit shitty towards your teammates to vote on yourself as scum as it is an easy way to put yourself out as a policy lynch - but I absolutely refuse to townread for him. I am also of the opinion that town should absolutely never vote on themselves because the only one they know for certain is town is themselves. I believe giving someone a pass for self voting is a big mistake as it essentially opens up for scum doing it for easy town credit in the long run.
I also think it is an easy way for Jester to try to make it part of his meta and I think that is awful so no matter what his alignment is I will push for it out of principle. So yes if Jester continues voting on himself I will also vote on him

I hope you're not expecting me to read any of that

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #653 (isolation #85) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:47 am

UNVOTE: shelly
fwiw I think I fell into a tunnel like I tend to be doing lately.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #654 (isolation #86) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:49 am

Guys I am in a dilemma. It's 11pm almost rn and I start work at 11am and finish at 7pm. My girlfriend is also working but they start earlier. I can either go with her to work (leaving at 4:30am) or do I stay asleep for a bit and bike to work at around 10am.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #655 (isolation #87) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:51 am

In post 654, JacksonVirgo wrote:Guys I am in a dilemma. It's 11pm almost rn and I start work at 11am and finish at 7pm. My girlfriend is also working but they start earlier. I can either go with her to work (leaving at 4:30am) or do I stay asleep for a bit and bike to work at around 10am.

I say "my girlfriend" forgetting that she's playing this game and will definitely see this and now I am going to be in so much shit lmfaooooooooooooooo

save me...

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #656 (isolation #88) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:52 am

Fwiw, I think Norwegian, Noraa, ODJ and Mini are town.
Could people explain to me why bugspray is so high in peoples reads?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #657 (isolation #89) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:54 am

I'm off to sleep now, I might just sleep in.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #659 (isolation #90) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:55 am

I am tired, leave me alone lol

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #661 (isolation #91) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:00 am

Gut still pings me that shelly is scum, and even if they're not. They're acting anti-town as hell
VOTE: shelly

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #662 (isolation #92) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:01 am

Chocolate?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #663 (isolation #93) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:01 am

Strawberry?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #664 (isolation #94) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:02 am

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #665 (isolation #95) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:02 am

Ignore me I think I'm drunk from tiredness. Night all

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #670 (isolation #96) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:06 am

@shelly. People disagreeing with you or agreeing with scum is not AI by itself. In the perspective of scum!me, what about that makes UNOwen scum and not town that's just reading you as scum.

pedit: If it's wrong then it's wrong.

pedit2: Sheeping is not exactly the same as reciprocating reads, at least not in my vocabulary. Even if they're the same thing in other's reads as soon as anyone does a second vote on a player are you going to SR them? Lmfao

Also you're very insistant on doing reaciton tests that literally aren't doing anything except make you look like an idiot.

pedit3: That isn't town!ai what

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #671 (isolation #97) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:06 am

In post 667, shellyc wrote:jackson just unvoted and then voted for ????? reason

your gut is wrong btw

I literally said the reasons for both, thanks for shading

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #677 (isolation #98) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:11 am

In post 672, shellyc wrote:
In post 661, JacksonVirgo wrote:They're acting anti-town as hell
my play is incredibly protown

my noraa read got us out of RVS
my jackson bait + read sparked a whole discussion giving the plist a whole avenue to sort us
I got the grendel wagon moving
why tf would I spend my time baiting and giving reads as scum
why tf would I make the whole plist hate me

tell me how my play is scum indicative

Noraa read was stupid, getting out of RVS is nai.
Your me read was stupid and got nowhere fast except when you made it excruciatingly obvious you were pulling reads out of your ass and lying, and then trying to fix those lies.
Getting a wagon moving is nai
Why tf would you spend time claiming an impossible role to get a PR lynched instead of just killing them at night. Your play-styles as scum are irregular.
Because you just have the skill to do that without meaning to.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #680 (isolation #99) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:13 am

In post 676, shellyc wrote:idk why y'all can't believe that my play is aggressive and confident and I like pushing my reads super hard and will scumread you to hell and back if you shade me

OMGUS at it's finest

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #681 (isolation #100) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:13 am

In post 679, UNOwen wrote:
In post 675, shellyc wrote: Even if i disregard it I still scumread them
if you don't mind I can make another big ugly quote wall but don't have the energy for that now
Sure.
Can you answer my question about 646?

646

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #685 (isolation #101) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:16 am

In post 682, shellyc wrote:
In post 677, JacksonVirgo wrote:Why tf would you spend time claiming an impossible role to get a PR lynched instead of just killing them at night. Your play-styles as scum are irregular.
Because you just have the skill to do that without meaning to.
lol you're just bullshitting with meta

You cannot say meta is not reliable because it is, if you can't do it effectively or for the right purpose that is your issue and not mine.

Also I love how you completely ignore my points only to shade me for them.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #686 (isolation #102) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:17 am

In post 684, shellyc wrote:
In post 646, shellyc wrote:redados' never been scum probably, so if anything the self aware play is town indicative
a newb!scum (at least from my brain cells) isn't the self aware type as they aren't even very aware about what to do to manipulate the town.

Oh boy how wrong you are, newb!scum are probably the most self-aware.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #687 (isolation #103) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:18 am

Oh my god imagine a vigi!shelly in this position lmfaooooo town would just lose

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #691 (isolation #104) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:20 am

In post 690, shellyc wrote:
In post 686, JacksonVirgo wrote:Oh boy how wrong you are, newb!scum are probably the most self-aware.
okay at least from my experiences newbscum arent self aware so might give you this

Yeah I think that's an experience thing, maybe people you've run into weren't but those I have were.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #692 (isolation #105) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:20 am

/reveal as Innocent Child

Do you see why I think you're stupid shell?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #694 (isolation #106) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:22 am

In post 693, UNOwen wrote:
In post 684, shellyc wrote: a newb!scum (at least from my brain cells) isn't the self aware type as they aren't even very aware about what to do to manipulate the town.
Newb!scum might not be aware how to manipulate town, but they are likely to be more aware of how the rest of the game is perceiving them and be making efforts to appear reasonable. Certainly that was my experience, and I don't think I am atypical.

Yeah that's what I see from my experience as well. But maybe shell has different experiences I am unsure.

@Shell, do you remember how Noraa was acting in the doggo game? iirc they were incredibly self-conscious

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #697 (isolation #107) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:25 am

In post 695, shellyc wrote:
In post 694, JacksonVirgo wrote:@Shell, do you remember how Noraa was acting in the doggo game? iirc they were incredibly self-conscious
yes

i dont think thats very self conscious, maybe we have different definitions

How would you define it? I define it as being aware of how one is perceived to others and making actions accordingly and/or to be read/perceived in a specific way.

pedit: I fucking hope that was a joke because mine was oh god did I just fuck up a joke this bad.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #698 (isolation #108) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:25 am

Hoooly fucking shit I have made a big mistake if that was real

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #699 (isolation #109) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:26 am

I am dying... oh no

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #700 (isolation #110) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:26 am

oh god...

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #701 (isolation #111) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:27 am

I will take your silence as a "holy shit I fucked up really bad"

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #702 (isolation #112) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:27 am

Dude please please please tell me that was a joke

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #703 (isolation #113) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:27 am

I mean it makes sense if you were... that's why i am dying so bad

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #705 (isolation #114) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:28 am

Oh no... I AM SO SORRY OH MY GOD

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #707 (isolation #115) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:29 am

UNVOTE:

Unvoting in pure shame, you have no idea how shitty this feels

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #708 (isolation #116) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:30 am

In post 706, shellyc wrote:
In post 702, JacksonVirgo wrote:Dude please please please tell me that was a joke
I do not admit. I do not deny

Please.. don't give me hope

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #710 (isolation #117) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:31 am

Wow, that was another reaction yet this one was actually pretty good outside of your outcome of it.
Would town just go "Haha lol let me keep my vote"

VOTE: shelly

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #712 (isolation #118) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:32 am

Someone tunneling an IC is nai, if it was pre-reveal. But holy fuck a whole lot of weight just fell off my shoulders

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #714 (isolation #119) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:34 am

My thoughts were that you were being incredibly cocky and being aggressive because you know you can't be lynched (as you're the IC). But for once in my life I am glad I was wrong.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #715 (isolation #120) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:35 am

In post 713, shellyc wrote:okay... im kinda coming to a world where Jackson is town.

the "I fucked up" posts were pretty geniune.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #716 (isolation #121) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:35 am

I think that's queue for me to sleep and never do that bluff ever ever again.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #717 (isolation #122) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:37 am

Not going to lie here though, why would scum ever claim IC back at their lynch target that just "revealed" as IC.

My brain hurts

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #718 (isolation #123) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:37 am

UNVOTE:
I'll unvote for now and will reconsider when I have a few hours sleep

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #822 (isolation #124) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:38 pm

In post 724, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Is Jackson the kind of guy that goes into an full page of OH THE HUMANITY! speech because he wagoned an obvious IC fake claim or is it acting.

This is probably not aimed at me so I'll choose to just say this instead of answering it

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #823 (isolation #125) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:39 pm

In post 726, Odd Day Jester wrote:
In post 721, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 713, shellyc wrote:okay... im kinda coming to a world where Jackson is town.

the "I fucked up" posts were pretty geniune.
Really? I thought they were kinda weird and unnatural and made me question my read on him.
But sure, if you think so.
Honestly, I kinda did too but then Jacko seems to be on very little sleep, considering he's been in the thread for the past forever.

I've been getting shit all sleep lately

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #824 (isolation #126) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:40 pm

In post 736, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 732, Saudade wrote:Norwegian you are scum this game arent you
I'm not scum, r u scum?
I'm not getting the same vibes from you like usual.
You seem to be focusing more on complaining about the active posters. Kinda like you did when we were scum together in a previous mini. Where all you did was not really scum hunt and complain about users with anime avatars.

I've never played with them so I have no idea if this is legit or not

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #825 (isolation #127) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:41 pm

In post 759, Noraa wrote:^scums never like to start or hammer wagons

This isn't accurate sorry, I see plenty of scum that start and hammer wagons

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #826 (isolation #128) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:42 pm

In post 777, Saudade wrote:it's been a while since two people have voted me in a game, what a wonderful feeling

Yeah this can die
VOTE: Sausage

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #827 (isolation #129) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:43 pm

Mundivore can be town for now, epic

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #837 (isolation #130) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:18 pm

At work but RIP grendel

JacksonVirgo · Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:29 am

In post 840, shellyc wrote:
In post 826, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 777, Saudade wrote:it's been a while since two people have voted me in a game, what a wonderful feeling
Yeah this can die
VOTE: Sausage
jacko what happened to your hard scumread on me again

I am still paranoid but I think your reaction + claiming IC back at me is probably town.

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:37 am

Mafia won ffs

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:53 am

In post 4112, Hectic wrote:When you really think about it, we're all winners at the end of the day. Except for the ones that lost.

In post 4109, shellyc wrote:
I don't allow "Bah" posts in my ruleset. -MT
Is shelly not gonna be given a harsh warning for imitating the mod here?

No they posted something else and the mod edited, I think I'm allowed to post here? It was so obvious that I was mafia this game lol

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:51 am

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:52 am

My d1 was glorious, yet somehow shelly survived the utter bs that happened D1 lmfaoooo.

And yeah I had to replace out because I knew the mafia due to mini uwu

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:53 am

I've seen a lot of cute bats now and I am thankful <3

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:55 am

In post 4124, shellyc wrote:
In post 4122, JacksonVirgo wrote:My d1 was glorious, yet somehow shelly survived the utter bs that happened D1 lmfaoooo.

And yeah I had to replace out because I knew the mafia due to mini uwu
you untunnelled tho

my craft as scum is make enough people SR me, just enough

I was going to 100% push you again but literally I looked over to my left and bam saw the mafia PT lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooo

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:55 am

In post 4125, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 4124, shellyc wrote:
In post 4122, JacksonVirgo wrote:My d1 was glorious, yet somehow shelly survived the utter bs that happened D1 lmfaoooo.

And yeah I had to replace out because I knew the mafia due to mini uwu
you untunnelled tho

my craft as scum is make enough people SR me, just enough
I was going to 100% push you again but literally I looked over to my left and bam saw the mafia PT lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooo

This is why I can't play with Mini anymore and why we're gonna focus on just hydra'ing