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[osuka]

FRIST

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VOTE: shellyc confscum

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is ms loading really slow for anyone else or should i call comcast

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I'm

vanilla town

btw

????????????

[osuka]

I need to sleep as well. This game is very hard to parse right now with how exhausted I am. I really want to see what 8attle Mage does next with this claim, I am somewhat confused as to why it was made.

can you please stop coloring your posts? it's giving me a scratch at the roof of my mouth i can only seem to scratch with a shotgun

[osuka]

Monopoly is all well and good but I'm here to post about hobbyist board games because I'm a nerd. Settlers of Catan is a classic of the genre and is considered to have popularised the Eurogame, which is characterised by mostly indirect player interaction, no player elimination, catch up mechanics and a decent amount of abstraction in game pieces. Amongst a lot of hobbyists it's thought of as fun but not necessarily having aged as well as some, but for the top level competitors it has become an aggressively social game, where manipulating other players to get the most out of the trading mechanic is a big key to victory.

i fucking love catan, thanks mod

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VOTE: shellyc confscum

NO U

if its pooky/osuka/ydrasse im putting this in my signature postgame

it's not because i'm not

but nice try

[osuka]

this is a psa to all players in this game:

all pagetops are for daddy

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yes ydrasse im town

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i think

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why do mods start games at 2am smh

VOTE: Ydrasse

don’t have time to read the 4 pages yet

it's your fault for being in a shitty timezone

[osuka]

do NOT start that here.

i just did

[osuka]

you can't stop me

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none of us can stop daddy

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can we play connect 4

[osuka]

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

VOTE: shellyc

That quote is one of my favorites of all time and I’d vote with you if I weren’t already

[osuka]

why are you the way you are

all town vote ydrasse

how is this a town response

No actually that’s a perfectly acceptable response in light of the way you play this game

[osuka]

why are you the way you are

all town vote ydrasse

how is this a town response

Since this is a board game mafia game I suggest we all fill out this questionnaire:

anyways im not filling this out, maaaaaybe postgame but RQS is bad imo

there are Statistics that prove RQS is often done by scum

well i have statistics that prove RQS is often done by town, so there.

Did you know over 73% of statistics you see on the internet are made up?

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also, daddy

Townposting

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also, daddy

yeah I don’t have the energy right now to engage Shelly in depth as to why or how her push is probably dogshit, and in all honesty I have really barely read it

but from experience I can tell you that it overwhelmingly likely is, and I’ll just spare everyone the pissing contest shitshow and leave it at that

[osuka]

also, daddy

Townposting

Hahahah fuck this got pagetop? Daddy is flexing his powers

[osuka]

well i think im just gonna make a point from now on

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hold on let me write a script here real quick, ill share if anyone wants to join in with the fuckery

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@mod: is it okay to use #ff00ff or is that too close to your color? What about #0000ff?

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don't worry, i'll make it quick. i'm not exactly sure how I'm supposed to overcome the fact that she picked a color that makes it very difficult to read against the background color

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just gonna leave this one here

that color fails every color contrast accessibility standard i'm aware of against the default background colors on this website. that's actually the better of the two

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it looks fine on mafBlack at least

i'm talking about mafblack

it's a problem for low-brightness displays and visually impaired users. it's an accessibility problem and it gives me a fucking headache

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though you could request a personal PT and just paste AG's posts in there and disable the formatting

at that point i'd just put my garbage tier javascript at work and write a userscript to unfuck her posts, but that's honestly way more effort than i should put into making a game readable.

asking

should do the trick, no? one would think?

[osuka]

well whatever i'm gonna try and figure it out from here if i can and in the meantime ill randomly choose someone to iso

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though you could request a personal PT and just paste AG's posts in there and disable the formatting

at that point i'd just put my garbage tier javascript at work and write a userscript to unfuck her posts, but that's honestly way more effort than i should put into making a game readable.

asking

should do the trick, no? one would think?

As the mod said, asking the player to change it won't do anything. I think you should probably use your script to rectify it, that seems like the least invasive thing to do.

see, the problem is i didn't actually write a userscript to strip the color from her posts - i went the completely opposite way and wrote one to add some flair to my own.

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[osuka]

i actually know very little javascript so it wouldn't be a 5-minute hack job like this was. it would still be a hack job, but would take significantly longer

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well i think im just gonna make a point from now on

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It just fucking hurts to read, yes? That’s my only problem with it and it’s not even remotely my fault

[osuka]

if you highlight the posts does the text reverse color for you?

Nope, unfortunately not

I may just be used to it due to knowing the source material, but it's not a challenge for me at all.
You say it causes problems for low-brightness displays and visually-impaired users, I assume you fit one or both categories?

Anyway this is dragging on a bit. You wanna talk game stuff at all? I feel notoriously underwhelmed by what's happened so far.

Staring at a bright display for too long gives me migraines

[osuka]

I have asked arachnidsGrip to consider changing her posting style to help with any accessibility issues, but will not currently be implementing a rule change about content as site rules say that games should be run under the rules they were initially posted with. I am intending to talk to the listmod to discuss what can be done to give the best result for everyone involved. For now, please refrain from discussing this further.

wilco, thanks for the help

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Since this is a board game mafia game I suggest we all fill out this questionnaire:


1) What is your Favorite Board Game?
2) Favorite memory playing Board Games?
3) If you could live in the universe of a Board Game - which one would it be?
4) If you were stuck on a desert island with a few friends - and a large supply of food and water - which one board game would you like to have to play while you wait for rescue?
5) If you could pick one board game to never exist - what would it be?

1. Candyland
2. Having a big joke around with those closest to me
3. Monopoly
4. Code cracker
5. Mouse trap

mini, what are your thoughts so far? you answered this but haven't posted anything other than your rvs (?) vote so like, you're reading the thread bare minimum.

Sorry i have been in and out of hospital these last few days and I have wanted to keep playing so i was jumping on and doing as much as i could at the time

fuck get better soon, i hope everythings alright

[osuka]

anti-town is not an alignment

[osuka]

anti-town is not an alignment

Anti town is scummy isnt it? thats the way i read it anyway

no

anti-town is play does not benefit town, but isn't necessarily scummy

[osuka]

maybe? the bar for what people call "anti-town" tends to be sadly low

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plist hostility towards me is obviously confirming me as town, scum bussing super early d1 is near-impossible

if the plist is hostile towards you for a playstyle and you are looking like probable d1-elim - you would probly get bussed because it would look shady af for your scum-buddies to be off-wagon as it takes off

iioa

with false i, to top it off

[osuka]

have you noticed them do it in their town games at all? it isn't AI if she behaves similarly in her town games imo, despite having more scum ones.

let me dig up a few quotes from my town game

I think I did similar things, which is personality trait instead of AI trait

pedit: is it a coincidence that ive been elimed d1 in many of my towngames
and yeah hostility towards me isnt strictly AI

it wouldn't be shelly if there was no self-meta, now would it

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i give up, trying to tell shelly that self-meta is worthless is clearly a lost cause

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dude i dont know if even shelly knows how shelly plays

[osuka]

shes self-metaing constantly but half the time she gets it wrong or ends up contradicting herself or saying the exact opposite of what she wants to

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you havent given me any reason to believe that

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D A D D Y

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activity is a shit indicator of alignment

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This has to be the absolute least amount of effort I’ve ever put into a wagon that has taken off

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hahaha wait what the fuck happened

[osuka]

Town blocker, i would actually go ahead and full claim here.

I think we can solve today, probably.

why are you assuming a town blocker

[osuka]

huh i totally missed the post where you laid out protec vs blocker

im a fucking moron, ignore me

[osuka]

fl are you trying to pocket me

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How did a mafia person die overnight? Also there is a lot of posts I have to read so imma do that now

I think they probably realized it was hopeless and decided to off themselves.

this is the dumbest thing ive ever heard

why would scum ever nk themselves

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How did a mafia person die overnight? Also there is a lot of posts I have to read so imma do that now

I think they probably realized it was hopeless and decided to off themselves.

this is the dumbest thing ive ever heard

why would scum ever nk themselves

geez man, looks like a joke is all :eek:

can you fault me for not assuming its a joke? ive heard worse things in other games recently

[osuka]

why arent pooky and i scum together

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You’re acting like I’m pushing you like it’s locked rather than just where I’d spend good betting money on.

this is a weird half-assed way to distance yourself from your own push, no

[osuka]

You’re just looking at everything from an extreme surface level

again, i think this is true of yourself rather than me, and i've evidenced that when I've responded to your posts about me.

Oh, absolutely not. I use surface level reads in addition to complex underlying and behind the scenes work.

You just are scum or are town who physically can’t comprehend it right now

i think this is the mafia equivalent of corporate buzzwords

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Although with respect, if I was scum, you'd never be able to catch me.

Lol.

Not a single scum player on this planet is this true for me.

cute

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I think BM is reacting rather poorly to Flavor, BM seems a bit locked into defense mode, which I think is kinda scummy, like he doesn't want to give Flavor any traction

this is weird. if you disagree with a push, especially if you think it's scummy, why would you let it get any traction?

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just finished page 32 and i think ts is town? not sure, but thats what my gut is telling me so far

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Disagree that it’s bad. Your slot is the biggest informational slot in the game.

an information lynch is a shit lynch, in a vacuum. i have to admit i have no clue how much time is left in the day and right this second i cant really be bothered to go check, but honestly if that's a big argument in your push you should probably just fuck off with it

[osuka]

Also very likely scum has one odd night role of same power to the roleblocker

?????????

[osuka]

Also very likely scum has one odd night role of same power to the roleblocker

uh what roleblocker?

TheGoldenParadox?

?????????????????

[osuka]

that's just not a safe assumption at all. why would you assume scum has another power role to balance out the gate on the rb?

[osuka]

meaning, specifically another power role _of similar power_ to balance it out

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i guess with a town vig, that's not too crazy but not knowing the rest of the town roles and assuming there's a second scum pr, it's hard to guess where it lands on the power scale

[osuka]

thats a good point

i feel like ungated vig is just stupidly powerful and im not sure that ever shows up in a mini. he's gotta be shot or night gated, right

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i think its a bigger question of _what_ the gate on the vig is, but since fl said he's gonna shoot someone else this night i have to assume he's shot gated since night 1,2 gated vig sounds a bit weird

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3-shot vig? probably another mafia pr, maybe a weaker one. 2-shot vig? not too sure. depends more on the rest of the town prs

[osuka]

why should we not speculate about town prs?

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at this point im basically today's lunch. unfortunately, unless BM is the scum doctor, theres going to be no way to confirm FL as town here 100%. pls vig/lunch BM.

I’m already confirmed unless you think scum shot themselves :lol:

bus driver?

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though in fairness with no cc and a scum doctor, vig is sort of an obvious claim to make. im just not sure whether someojne would fakeclaim vig or, in the case of a vig fakeclaim, someone would cc

pedit: not really, no. i think bd is very unlikely compared to vig in light of a scum doctor

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though in fairness with no cc and a scum doctor, vig is sort of an obvious claim to make. im just not sure whether someojne would fakeclaim vig or, in the case of a vig fakeclaim, someone would cc

pedit: not really, no. i think bd is very unlikely compared to vig in light of a scum doctor

i feel like vig wouldnt cc but instead just shoot FL. if the doc is on FL and the shot fails then maybe cc time.

that was my first thought. im inclined to agree

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i mean regardless of what your read on fl is, you probably shouldnt kill a claimed vig with no cc

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if were discussing setup, casting doubt on the existence of a vig is probably the last thing to do

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is it beneficial for a town protective to speak up? theyd 100% get shot here but would confirm someone else and vig would still get another shot, assuming shot gate

[osuka]

also pagetop for daddy

[osuka]

whether or not there is a jester doesn't even matter here. i asked for a protec because scum didn't get a nk in, and _that_ is very relevant here. either there's a town roleblocker, or a doctor, or some other role thats not coming to mind immediately. is that not obvious?

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what is?

pedit: oh right

get out of the thread, nerd
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I'm kinda unhappy with bob because when I saw him post his posts seemed somewhat forced.

Yeah, Bob got unnaturally scummy after the Taylor vs Flavor.

I think he could be scum who was about to set up for the momentum to go towards me.

Because let’s be honest, the momentum was swinging towards me.

Taylor, BM, Bob, Osuka, and Creature were all ready to vote me. Don’t act like you werent

this is false and really weird

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as weird as fl has been lately, there may be merit to a massclaim. the problem is, there are plenty of fake claims to make (such as cop, since theres a claimed miller and town cop is not guaranteed).

why do other people think massclaim is a good idea?

[osuka]

ok my role

compulsive loyal vig :-P

I tried to shoot osuka and he is still alive so must be scum.

Im not making this up. This is a serous role

lol what the fuck

are you seriously trying to tell me there are two vigs in this game, and one of them is loyal? nice try

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lmao ive been had

VOTE: bob

[osuka]

i think there should be rule that taylor has to write all her posts in the form of lyrics

i think there should be a rule you have to write all your posts in english. half of them are indecipherable

[osuka]

i think there should be rule that taylor has to write all her posts in the form of lyrics

i think there should be a rule you have to write all your posts in english. half of them are indecipherable

rien que pour vous j'écrirai mes articles en français. gracieuseté de google translate

malheureusement pour toi, je parle le francais bien, alors jai pas besoin dun traducteur :)

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i think there should be rule that taylor has to write all her posts in the form of lyrics

i think there should be a rule you have to write all your posts in english. half of them are indecipherable

rien que pour vous j'écrirai mes articles en français. gracieuseté de google translate

I get that this is meant as a joke, but can we keep to English please.

haha oh fuck i saw this after i posted, sorry

previous post says "unfortunately for you, i speak french so i dont need a translator"

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no but like seriously bob half of your posts are completely unintelligible

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I think there's 3 more scum. Or they have some really special powers. This feels townsided.

For a vig and a doc/rb? Not that OP imo. I’d expect one or two more Town PRs tbh with a scum doc having flipped already

town vig + mafia doctor sounds much better for scum than for town

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i'm gonna save who i protected until we get through all the claims.

was it me? if it wasnt me ill be really hurt :(

[osuka]

i'm vt as well. there are way too many vts on that list though

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with that list, i dont think scum has claimed pr yet

[osuka]

oh i just saw a cop claim

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yeah i agree. with the cop and gunsmith on the board id say scum can be in the pr claims too

[osuka]

PAGETOP FOR DADDY

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ydrasse where are you

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where are you ydrasse

[osuka]

we wanna know who you protected

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Yeah, Osuka’s probably the partner to whichever of Creature/Gamma is scum.

I naturally town read Battle and Pooky when I’m interacting with them, and Taylor has essentially lost if she is scum.

for someone whose reads are "extraordinarily good", this is remarkably wrong

[osuka]

i thought it was you? maybe my role pm was wrong

[osuka]

and Osuka annoyed me

glad the effort wasn't in vain

you clearly can't read me and i can't think of an obvious ulterior motive you would have here, so i'll play along for now: why me over gamma?

[osuka]

yeah i'm not sure what to do here. i don't think fl is scum, i just think he's got his head so far up his ass that he's gone all the way around

he comes out with a "mech solve" that isn't really a solve and was built on imperfect _and_ questionable information to begin with, and pre-flip associatives that he pulled from thin air. everyone seems to be on board. did i miss anything?

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did i miss anything?

Johnny is informed miller claiming there are five roles with guns.

There's a confirmed scum doctor who can't have a gun so mafia has two guns. Flavor (odd vig), Mini (even cop) and bob (gunsmith) all have guns. So it fits five.

Therefore if we trust Johnny, all of Johnny/Flavor/Mini/bob are out of the lynch options today.

We can also safely say Ydrasse is town because only their role explains the lack of a mafia kill, so they're out too.

Taylor is claiming tracker and even though the claim isn't very believable it's pretty suboptimal to lynch them today. Taylor is out for today too.

And now there's BM who bob claims to have got a no gun result. Even if BM could still be scum doctor, it's a suboptimal lynch today, so BM is out.

That leaves:

you
me
Pooky
Gamma

Now make your pick.

i did miss johnnys info

ydrasse i know about, taylor i know about, bm i know about

[osuka]

here's a lukewarm take

VOTE: pooky

[osuka]

NIGHT ACTIONS
@Bob - can you confirm Taylor for us? Actually, I don’t care who you target anymore, just target within t hose 6 obviously preferably not the same as Mini.

@Mini - Can you target Gamma for us?

@Taylor - Can you target 1 of the 3 we don’t fade today and separate from who Mini checks? (We talked earlier, I feel it’s acceptable not to list em again here) also, it’s fine if you target the same person as Bob.
Actions@Bob - can you confirm Taylor for us? Actually, I don’t care who you target anymore, just target within those 6 obviously preferably not the same as Mini.@Mini - Can you target Gamma for us?@Taylor - Can you target 1 of the 3 we don’t fade today and separate from who Mini checks? (We talked earlier, I feel it’s acceptable not to list em again here) also, it’s fine if you target the same person as Bob.

ok we ready to move on here? i think we ready.

get on osuka

huh, aren't you eager to get rid of me

[osuka]

i wonder why

[osuka]

Unfortunately for you, clearly none of you can read me

I think ts fake claimed

[osuka]

come on nerds, ask me whatever it is you wanna know before i finally meet the sweet embrace of death

you know me, no lies after hammer when im town. go

[osuka]

Unfortunately for you, clearly none of you can read me

I think ts fake claimed

do you think she is town or scum though? ts fakeclaiming is NAI.

Scum probably given the last few pages?

[osuka]

Do you see a light?

No, it’s all dark in here

[osuka]

osu, you scum?
you scum yea?

im not

[osuka]

lol what the fuck it wasnt hammer? whoops