Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[Tayl0r Swift]

Seems like this game might have more neighborhoods than usual

what makes you say that?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Townblock application line is here in my circular file.. or firing squad?

If you're town, I really need to know it within 4 pages. I'm deathly afraid how things might go otherwise.

otherwise he will probably betray you!

[Tayl0r Swift]

I kinda dig the RP it adds vibes

then youre scum too.

[Tayl0r Swift]

I kinda dig the RP it adds vibes

Not really. It just gives Pooky something to hide behind while he’s definitely capable of more. A successful town has everyone engaged and focused, so I think Pooky should just stop if he is town.

ah yes the engaged and focus townie police are here to make sure everyone is focused and on-task. excellent. its page 11 now, definitely time to start super tryharding, because the more you try the better you play.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Unfortunately, being a worthless bump on a log is not a solid scumtell. But TSwizzle's buddying sure as hell is and makes me want to slap that vote back on her even more.

who am i buddying?

[Tayl0r Swift]

because the more you try the better you play.

Is this not true?

no

[Tayl0r Swift]

VOTE: alisae

[Tayl0r Swift]

VOTE: alisae

??????

??????

[Tayl0r Swift]

Last time I swear.

Anyways, I’m annoyed, true, but not really worked up. This lack of genuine conversation just makes it hard to find a solid tell on people.

Be the change you want to see in the thread. Got a question for me?

i do! what color would you say your hair is?

[Tayl0r Swift]

VOTE: alisae

??????

??????

well go on.
explain yourself.

well go on.
explain yourself.

[Tayl0r Swift]

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Spoiler:

quote="In post 281, Alisae"]

I kinda dig the RP it adds vibes

??????

I kinda dig the RP it adds vibes

then youre scum too.

????????

I kinda dig the RP it adds vibes

Not really. It just gives Pooky something to hide behind while he’s definitely capable of more. A successful town has everyone engaged and focused, so I think Pooky should just stop if he is town.

?????????

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Read eir post.

Seems fine with me

That’s cool. Why doesn’t it bother you that they expected town you to respond like this but you responded like this instead and therefore
?

im confused?

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This needs to go. The amount of absolutely nothing you're adding is, as the kids say, whack.

So many LHF in this game darn. I'd say give him a day or two to do stuff before arriving at this vote though.

Fucking seriously. We could start a jam factory with how much there is.

Like I get this is sorta still RVS/shitposting stage, but

come on

What's the rush?[/quote]

you made this post

[Tayl0r Swift]

Why is there a question mark?

Because this is how he plays the game?

why did you feel the need to jump in on midway's behalf?

[Tayl0r Swift]

you made this post

what about it

feels like a post that throws shade but doesnt advance the game. its a very long post to look like effort but no effort actually goes into ???????????
also i didnt have a vote so i put one down.

[Tayl0r Swift]

?????????????

[Tayl0r Swift]

feels like a post that throws shade but doesnt advance the game.

I hate these kind of accusations. "Throws shade" is just charged language for "expresses a negative opinion". Which if phrased that way is just as potentially game-related as expressing any other opinion.

Furthermore, making a post that doesn't advance the game is not in and of itself bad. What's bad is not making posts that DO advance the game, but if you're doing both, then there's no problem.

hmm you can be town i think

[Tayl0r Swift]

that post wasn't worthy of a townread

maybe not but as someone who's still new/rusty, coaching is the best way to pocket me. please dont abuse it.

[Tayl0r Swift]

hmm you can be town i think

ok but are you going to respond to the point I made

my response was o snap u rite

[Tayl0r Swift]

hmmm VOTE: diamondsentinel

[Tayl0r Swift]

The griping about RVS looked a little overdone.

How was it different from my own? That's probably the main reason I'm townreading him right now btw

the fact that they were similar and you two are all buddy buddy makes me think youre scum even more.

[Tayl0r Swift]

The griping about RVS looked a little overdone.

How was it different from my own? That's probably the main reason I'm townreading him right now btw

the fact that they were similar and you two are all buddy buddy makes me think youre scum even more.

do you really think scum would act that way toward each other

maybe not: i guess i should clarify: i think *at least one of them* is scum because of their interactions

[Tayl0r Swift]

maybe not: i guess i should clarify: i think *at least one of them* is scum because of their interactions

where did the "even more" come from, exactly, you didn't seem to indicate suspicion of midway before this

i frequently dont indicate my gut suspicions clearly.

[Tayl0r Swift]

peta what are your reads rn?

[Tayl0r Swift]

same, honestly

[Tayl0r Swift]

ok im read up to page 19. the rest will have to wait until tomorrow.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Omg Tammy is so town would be a good response!

Omg Tammy is so town!

This is actually a bit serious. Referencing the anon dance again, she reminds me of how she played as Lady 7 in that game.

This is also probably a town post too

why is this a town post? wouldnt it be super duper easy to fake as scum?

[Tayl0r Swift]

ok im read up to page 19. the rest will have to wait until tomorrow.

i like this post. it definitely comes from town.

[Tayl0r Swift]

I'm officially not happy with the Bell wagon

I don't like Bell, but I like his wagon even less.

this is exactly how i feel, although im the ghost of christmas past and im not sure if the bell wagon still exists, or if im even still alive.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Oh I also want Something Smart to post more. I'm intrigued about their behavior and I'd like to see more.

this too. UNVOTE:

[Tayl0r Swift]

ok ive read to the top of 32. ill try to finish catching up tomorrow.

[Tayl0r Swift]

I think you would probly be better served if you just read the last 2 pages and play rather than continuing the futile task of keeping up with the greatest team of shitposters ever assembled.

no i will do it! i have to! plus the thread has been fun to read, its just a lot. although ive gotta say reading through it so far hasnt given me a lot of confident scum reads. even my town reads are a bit eh, and im a bit disappointed in myself.

[Tayl0r Swift]

because i feel bad about falling behind

[Tayl0r Swift]

Bell - scum
Tayl0r Swift
Cabd
fferyllt
midwaybear - town
SirCakez - prob town
Something_Smart
Syryana
petapan - town
Tammy - Prob town
PookyTheMagicalBear
The Bulge
Jake The Wolfie - Town
Gamma Emerald - Prob Town
DiamondSentinel - Scum
Nahdia - Scum

where does the order come from? is that the order of teh playerlist and you annotated it? people without labels are null?

[Tayl0r Swift]

what's the point of all those questions lol

partly curiosity, but partly because its not the way most people do readlists so maybe theres something AI to be gleaned

[Tayl0r Swift]

Today is reserved for an outing with grandparents.
See you tomorrow.

grandparents, you say? I happen to know for a fact that grandparents are plants sent here by the scumteam to distract us. Since Bell is cooperating with them, bell is probably scum too.

[Tayl0r Swift]

cakez why are you telling such nasty lies about me

[Tayl0r Swift]

the last couple pages are strange and there wasnt really anything fun to respond to. im pretty sure scum were active and working to distance from each other though, because a lot of shit was thrown but no votes were placed

[Tayl0r Swift]

am i the only one at this point who thinks DS is probably town?

[Tayl0r Swift]

am i the only one at this point who thinks DS is probably town?

were you getting the impression that people were scumreading him?

yes...

[Tayl0r Swift]

am i the only one at this point who thinks DS is probably town?

were you getting the impression that people were scumreading him?

yes...

and what did anyone say that gave you that impression, exactly

"i dont like these posts from DS"
"DS is probably scum here"
"im leaning scum on DS"
"vote DS"

things like that.

[Tayl0r Swift]

"i dont like these posts from DS"
"DS is probably scum here"
"im leaning scum on DS"
"vote DS"

things like that.

...what page are you reading? because if you're still catching up, yes, you're out of date

im caught up but even on the previous page i still see DS in the bottom tier of read lists.

[Tayl0r Swift]

{Something_Smart, Midway, Ffery}
{Tammy, Cake, Syr}
{Alisae, Petapan}
{Gamma, Nahdia}
~~~Line of How low Can You Limbo?~~~
{Diamond, Bell, Taylor}
~~~Line of Enough Data (I don't know where to place this players yet)~~~
{Bulge, Pookey}
{Jake*}


*To be meta'd, I know syr mentioned having done some research but I need to fact check.

Excluding Bell, what are your adjustments here if you gun-to-head?

am i misreading this list? to me the people below the bottom line were nulls and the people in the middle were scum. the ordering is strange but thats how i interpreted the labels for the lines.

[Tayl0r Swift]

why is midway so high up on your readlist?

[Tayl0r Swift]

tammy i wish you had more thoughts on this game and not on old games

Me too!

dammit we crossposted and then my browser went out and I lost my post.

It wasn't anything great, but it is apropos to this post so I'll just rewrite it as a reply.

I've got some free time today so I'll actually be able to read this game mostly undistracted and not while also trying to work. Before my actual read, I've got working town reads on midwaybear, ffery, cabd, sryry. I don't even know why on midwaybear though; I just remember liking this posts.

I was looking at the playerlist last night and I realized that I don't actually have active suspicions on anyone*. Some pings here and there which has me wondering if it's setup related or if scum are in the people that I just haven't seen posting much? I don't know; hopefully a reread fixes that.

Although! If you're vote on me was serious, it's wrong, but I think you'll realize that once I have some thoughts on the game after actually reading it. I hope. I hope I have thoughts.

well the process was raelizing i don't actually remember anything about how you play, which made me realize i didn't remember anything you've done this game, which led me to read back on you and realize i don't townread you and i'm not sure why anyone does. i didn't have any serious intentions of attempting to wagon you (i was going giving you and diamondsentinel the "first game off a hiatus" d1 pass regardless of my read), but felt the need to express that read in a visible fashion

werent you recently saying no one scumreads diamond? now youre saying you scumread diamond but are giving him a pass?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Pick back up at 21 later

So far my reads haven't actually changed. Still have midwaybear, ffery, syry and cabd as varying town reads. If I could do tiers without my brain literally melting down into syrup for my waffles I'd maybe have cabd the lowest but even typing that out doesn't feel right. I do remember why I was town reading midwaybear though! And I agree with my past self that it's a bit tonal, but the engagement and the tonal response to the suspicion or votes he's got is far above the FGO "wasn't me" vibe he gave.

Taylor Swift half feels like she's playing this game with fortune cookies. Crack open a cookie, post whatever it says inside as a response to something.

Like cakez, alisae, taylor, and bell less than I remember liking them in the moment.

Like Diamond Sentinel more actually. Not an actual town read, just like them more.

Cabd - I think I understood your Andrius comment. This doesn't really mean anything but just patting myself on the back if I was able to understand something a bit coded.

if you treat your friends well, you will reap the rewards by finding scum

[Tayl0r Swift]

do you feel like youre good at reading, bell?

[Tayl0r Swift]

I had a few posts quoted in different tabs from earlier catchups going days back but I just went through and closed each of them one-by-one. I guess I don't have much to say at the moment.

i've been finding it hard to lately to stay focused on analysis. Like I can stay caught up and get reading done but it's like my brain is watching it all unfold without ever catching on that it's supposed to be guessing how it all ends, and any idea I think I get about the game is fleeting

so, I'm sorry my content has been so atrocious this game. I promise you it is very much irl mental state influenced and nothing like a specific thread avoidance. I do want to stay in the game but I think I need to adjust how I approach the game for the time being instead of putting myself under all this pressure to perform to this-plist standards. once again i'm sorry for the inactive slot, I know that can be incredibly frustrating to solve around and ultimately bad for the health of the game.

i feel exactly this way. im having a lot of trouble parsing the 2012 cohort and the rest of the thread is much lurkier. i know its shitty, but i am reading and following. I have some townreads, but dont have any confident scumreads atm. if people want to tell me to look at specific things i can give thoughts and maybe thatll help me get engaged. i dunno. maybe day 2 will be better with some flips, but im not sure. sorry :/

[Tayl0r Swift]

if you look through my town meta, youll see a number of fake scumslips and scumclaims early day 1.

why in the world would i actually signal to scum when quoting a member of my dethy. like 100% the dethy picks up on that, 50% the mafia does.

again, if you think im scum here you must think im actually stupid.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Yes, because 1606 doesn't say anything. If Tayl0r wants to make an actual defense, I'll engage it for sure.

hard to make an actual defense when the actual case is all stuff thats NAI being painted as scummy.

[Tayl0r Swift]

What's NAI? The fact that you just accidentally used the word "betray"?

it was absolutely not an accident.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Yes, because 1606 doesn't say anything. If Tayl0r wants to make an actual defense, I'll engage it for sure.

hard to make an actual defense when the actual case is all stuff thats NAI being painted as scummy.

For starters, who is the scum in the deathy, in your view?

jake.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Your ISO has zero mentions of Jake except the reply to my question.

You haven't voted Jake, you haven't suspected Jake, you haven't even thought about Jake.

Why?

i intentionally didnt share any of the posts that pinged me because we agreed not to out the dethy today and i therefore didnt want to draw attention to anyone in the dethy. i said as much in the PT.

[Tayl0r Swift]

That was probably intentional.

i can actually see taylor doing that because she's a massive shitposting troll

i find it less likely she does it when she's an actual traitor

y'all need to shut up, I was obviously trying to get Tayl0r to clarify without letting her know what I was looking for.

Okay Tayl0r if it wasn't an accident why did you do it then?

a) its fun
b) to ideally create some mud to make scums lives harder

[Tayl0r Swift]

a) its fun

...it's fun to get mis-exed?

you have an odd definition of fun, my friend

its fun to be wagoned and suspected. notice that theres a big wagon and pressure on me and suddenly im posting? not a coincidence. i told the dethy that too. i get my best reads when im interacting directly with people, especially when i can see their logic for their reads on me.

[Tayl0r Swift]

I thought what Jake's post revealed was that he didn't know how traitors work.

my god it's beautiful

fuck i dont know how traitors work. even after reading the wiki it seems like there are multiple possible options. but you dont see me dumbtelling over it. until now i guess

[Tayl0r Swift]

...Did you warn your masonry that you were going to scum drop all over the place before doing so?

that would be no fun. but when they noticed i did come clean

[Tayl0r Swift]

a) its fun

...it's fun to get mis-exed?

you have an odd definition of fun, my friend

its fun to be wagoned and suspected. notice that theres a big wagon and pressure on me and suddenly im posting? not a coincidence. i told the dethy that too. i get my best reads when im interacting directly with people, especially when i can see their logic for their reads on me.

This is some galaxy brain shit right here.

thanks

[Tayl0r Swift]

im usually scumread in most of my games, so i just kinda learned to make the most of it and turn that into an advantage.

[Tayl0r Swift]

its fun to be wagoned and suspected. notice that theres a big wagon and pressure on me and suddenly im posting? not a coincidence. i told the dethy that too. i get my best reads when im interacting directly with people, especially when i can see their logic for their reads on me.

Okay. People are wagoning you because you crumbed traitor (and didn't do the obvious step of saying you were doing so in the neighborhood PT). You're almost certainly going to die now. What do you think of that logic?

its fine. i still think youre town. other people crumbed other aspects of the dethy. i chose the most fun part of the dethy to crumb.

[Tayl0r Swift]

well for example based on the last couple pages i have a stronger townread on SS and scumreads on peta and bell.

[Tayl0r Swift]

midway is scum too. pooky feels not great but im not sure yet.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Seriously?

nah just kidding. or am i?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Seriously?

nah just kidding. or am i?

Spoiler:

im not

[Tayl0r Swift]

it's hard being lonely

same. Not sure if I should townread you for saying this though.

uh you softclaimed being in a neighborhood a couple times earlier, and now youre saying you arent in one?

[Tayl0r Swift]

That was probably intentional.

i can actually see taylor doing that because she's a massive shitposting troll

i find it less likely she does it when she's an actual traitor

y'all need to shut up, I was obviously trying to get Tayl0r to clarify without letting her know what I was looking for.

Okay Tayl0r if it wasn't an accident why did you do it then?

a) its fun
b) to ideally create some mud to make scums lives harder

[Tayl0r Swift]

yeah ok nvm gl with the 2012 cohort.

[Tayl0r Swift]

it was very unfortunate that i rolled traitor as im still pretty inexperienced. ive never seen a traitor before, and was pretty lost. it made it a lot harder that half the dethy were from the 2012 cohort and that cohort dominated the game. to be fair id probably make the same crumb as town there.

[Tayl0r Swift]

it was very unfortunate that i rolled traitor as im still pretty inexperienced. ive never seen a traitor before, and was pretty lost. it made it a lot harder that half the dethy were from the 2012 cohort and that cohort dominated the game. to be fair id probably make the same crumb as town there.

Why the replace out once it became evident you were in a bad spot?

because it was clear that it was me that was the issue. i was struggling with the 2012 cohort and i was struggling to keep up with the pace of the game at the time. i was hoping that a replacement could do a better job in a difficult role to play in difficult circumstances.