mystery box of silver 10. (done)

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First.

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Glad to be here, glad to be here.
What the fuck is going on.

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Turns out four games is a lot and I'm going to have to skim.
Be gentle and guide me correctly the rest of you.
Not that efforting actually makes me anymore accurate than not trying at all. *sigh*

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Don't worry bell I can just recap you and then decide if I want to kill you based on your reaction

Go for it.

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I can't believe the triple-headed hydra is not most prolific poster in this game. needs to up the stakes!

It takes a lot more than a couple of cheap shots to make us cry.

I can guarantee we'll be top poster by the end of this day

~Buttercup

you should have 50% more posts than any other player to maintain any shred of credibility.

I probably won't need this.

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I do believe this is going to be a game that is impossible to write a catch up post for.
So instead I guess I'll have to skim and just hope for the best.

VOTE: Golden Paradox

Slight scum ping. Could be wrong.

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I wanted to ask, did the mafia literally get to choose which player got what?

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I think we already missed the record for eliminating someone about 17 pages ago.

Also, no. I haven't been reading the earlier posts I will get to it. Sad face.

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I'm still wondering where my vote of the goldenparadox went.

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VOTE: GoldenParadox

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Yeah, sorry Nero, I'm not going to be attuned to this at all at the current pace.
4 games to follow.

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@mastina, how sure are you in your d1 locktown reads? without playing with you/knowing your meta well, i have no idea what you mean by locktown here

Is this a town response to Mastina's posts?

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Ugh we're still in RVS.

I'm not.

Mastina's vote is bad.

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I can't even be bothered to read their explanation on their scum read on me, because that's how bad their initial vote on me was.

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Also, I now have time and I really, really still don't want to read what happened and I feel like a terrible person for that.

Did anyone ever answer my question about whether the scum team got to choose which town members got powerroles or did they just select which power roles would be in the game?

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Please don't.

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I can't argue with pickaxepete town atm.
Because why would I.
I'm town.

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If you could not embarrass me by being actually scum Pete I would appreciate it.

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Superbowl, why aren't you scum this game if I may ask?

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Not that I wish to pressure a town buddy. :3.

I felt it a little unusual that you explained your vote and then voted rather than the other way around.
On the otherhand, more attention your way may lead you to being a little more focused on not tripping as either alignment.

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That bridge is dancing. :3

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We're always gunna be buddies Superbowl. <3

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Ehh, the "I look scummy because I'm doing things but why would I, as scum, look like scum" has never done much for me.
That's fair that I didn't reference which post you were asking about. It's a bad habit. Sorry.

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I'm waiting on april to town tell, but I don't think he really will this game because he set my expectations too high by being flavorleaf.

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Did anyone ever answer my question about whether the scum team got to choose which town members got powerroles or did they just select which power roles would be in the game?

Mate, if scum assigned town slots their PRs then it would be easy for then to both run them over by day and shoot them by night. No? So it follows they pick what types of power to give town, but not whom to give it to. It also helps them make good fake claims, since they know what PRs are NOT included. (And now that I said that I foresee the mod stepping in and stating the exact opposite just so I would look dumb)

Mod! Answer this question *Snap*

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Pick your poison?

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motifs of the series:
assignment of roles to town by mafia; heavy information to mafia; night actions being determined by events (e.g., two players are assigned to collaboratively use a doctor ability); normal roles or otherwise non-flashy roles; uncertain guilties vs. certain innocents; setup fake-outs; vanilla by any other name tastes just as sweet.

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Pick your poison?

Yes but it's known there. Where in the rules does it say scum pick the setup?

Why do you sound exactly the same as when you were scum titus.

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Is this because you're always scum to me?!

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Titus
Nero Cain
Vecna
samantha97

TheGoldenParadox
Menalque

Pickaxe Pete
jjh927
Almost50

Tayl0r Swift
April Ludgate
superbowl9

DiamondSentinel
NorwegianboyEE

Christøpher

PlusJOYED
EchoVision
DrDolittle
Gamma Emerald

Morning Mage
Ban Hydras

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Locktown, locktown-candidates (not quite locktown but very very strong townreads I'm considering bumping up to locktown), strong town, weak town, nulltown (with heavy ambivalence), dead-null, nullscum, ambivalent-nullscum (this might take some explaining, it's basically a category where when I think of them in one side they'd be above the nullscum as either null or even nulltown, but when I think of them on the other side they're below nullscum in lean scum and they do go between those extremes), and scum.

As scum would you be above claiming set up ignorance for easy town points?

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That question was directed at both A50, Titus, Mastina.

And I suppose I should turn the contempt button down on Mastina because at least they're trying.
I haven't read your case and I never will because I already town told.

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I'm not sure how helpful introducing the concept of thinking about whether your roles were given to you by friends or people that know you as scum versus just not knowing that.

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That's exactly what I meant.
@A50.
Thx.

@April, you're not wrong. I think some players from meta are more prone to read the set ups than others and sometimes scum get a little nervous when I ask town to tell me they're town. Or whether as scum to disagree or not take the absurd question seriously.

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Anyone wanna hop on the jjh train

I shall white knight with you.

VOTE: JJH

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This is all playstyle probably, but that post reads as extremely NAI.

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<3 At least we're not scum buddies together this game.

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Actually, here's my first serious vote 9actually my first in-game vote, since my RVS went to a spectator)

VOTE: Gamma

Gamma has been on MS for 4.5 hours now. He made 47 public posts (the last if which was maybe 2 minutes ago) but is yet to even make an ego post in this game.

I wanna vote you for this.
But I feel so bad about misreading you and making an ass out of myself that I want to vote with you instead. :3

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Sorry, my mafia card is maxed out. I would just make that game worse.

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Before I sleep I would just like to celebrate nerocain being town again.

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It’s not morning you liar.

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Before I sleep I would just like to celebrate nerocain being town again.

It’s not morning you liar.

@norwe.

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Dangit. 20 new pages.
Why.

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I feel like on page 40 or 41 Gamma did a thing where he scum claimed by voting Mena with a .....
Not because I don't think he'd do it as town. But because I think he would be snazzier about it.

Also, maybe not.

Also, I agree that echo feels townish. But not explosion townish.
Also, wheneverI say we're not scum partners.
I'm almost never scum partners with that person. :3
Also, I'm not scum partnerswith anyone.

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#1006, 1007.
Titus doesn't seem very different from her typical play last game. What makes this game different superbowl?
#1008: Do tell.
#1025: Nice post if scum.
#1032: k. Are you a miller?
#1045: Inspired scum? I like this angle.
Joyed seems...weak townish so far.
#1053: Ding. Ding. Ding. Please don't tunnel me for noticing this. It will be awkward when I flip.
#1064: That's just how nerocain is tbh.
#1066: Is this scum sarcasm.
#1067: I don't do this and sometimes it bites me in the ass.
#1072: Eh.
#1074: I don't think scum taylor ever leads with gut.
#1078: Thanks banhydras. Also, I get weird feelings from this post.
#1086: Huh. Why?
#1092: Hmm. Would you like to share reasons?
#1120: Lazy. #1121: Hmm. Thanks for giving Town echo a pass.
#1023: Fascinating.

Eh I'll skim the rest.

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I don’t really scumresd bell but i would be unsurprised if superbowl were partnered with him in the case that bell is scum

April is boonskies and flavor leaf.
Scum of the year last year. That's about it.

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Can't argue with that.

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Except the gamma town part. I don't see it. Explain?

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@norwe, I was just wondering if you agreed that Nero was town.

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Oh, no. I have no objections to gamma scum
Tbh.

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VOTE: gamma emerald

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My only real concern is that because it’s so early and he just got here that he might be being weird because he just got here and not because he rolled scum

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The mod allowed the hydras if you didn’t want to play with them. Why did you join?

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May I speak my own mind?

Since when did you need permission to do so?

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The mod allowed the hydras if you didn’t want to play with them. Why did you join?

cause I can

Are u just fake crapping on the hydra because it gives scum you something to do

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Subject: mystery box of silver ten: titans of the votehouse LETSA GO

motifs of the series:

assignment of roles to town by mafia; heavy information to mafia; night actions being determined by events (e.g., two players are assigned to collaboratively use a doctor ability); normal roles or otherwise non-flashy roles; uncertain guilties vs. certain innocents; setup fake-outs; vanilla by any other name tastes just as sweet.

Like.
People are interpreting this to mean.
"Motifs of this game, mystery box of silver 10".
I interpreted it as "motifs of this series, mystery box of silver".

I don’t disagree with Mastina, I did not mean or rather no longer thought that all the power roles were assigned by scum when I went back to read it.

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Anyway so I'm ascetic

You were not being subtle about this.

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Mastina why are you so bad at reading me if you’re town?

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Also do you really think plusjoyed would come in and meta @me as a scum partner?

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I know. I’m just not sure if it was a good idea to do that. I know that aesthetic’s tend to be scumm but that town can be.
I don’t see a lot of reason for you to claim so early as scum though.

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It needs to be a day1 claim from me so people don't waste protectives

makes sense.

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As scum you wouldn’t gambit like this would you?

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I think I want to do SB or ban hydra today.

Zero percent chance Nero takes this tack as scum imo.

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Wait, actually nvm. SB pushed at him first. Never mind. Scum love to omgus that so back to just probably town.

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As scum you wouldn’t gambit like this would you?

Don't think so

Can't see scum!me pulling a gambit day 1 of a large theme. Too much risk.

Thanks town jjh.

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SB pushed at him first.

no he actully didn't

I stand corrected.

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VOTE: mastina

BOP

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More votes on Mastina for the crime of probably strategically voting rather than responding dynamically to play.

Then again title etc.

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I should probably clarify.

I came into this game like a shithead but have since played nothing like that but no budge means that mastina’s read itself is artificial.

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im null on norwee atm. My attention has been kinda focused elsewhere; I'm not even gonna try to pay attention to every single slot. that's the problem with a huge plist.
I prefer a power puff elim over battle mage elim. I actually want a hydra elim today though.

(This does add fuel to my fire in thinking that Plus-Gamma-Bell-Norwegian-MorningMage has a reasonably high chance of containing at least 3, probably at least four, scum. Maybe not all five are scum, heck maybe two are town, but I do think that those five names contain a minimum of 3 scum, probably more, right now.)

*blink*
Oh. You’re playing like April.
Never mind.

VOTE: gamma emerald.

You do you silly person.

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Why? Besides there being less information to work with if wrong?

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She just answered that she is taking new play into account and accurately determined that I was playing like town just then.
So my claim is out of date.
Also, fairly reasonable explanation is fairly reasonable.

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Say it with me now: “town winrates are higher when days end earlier”

Data?

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UNVOTE:

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Let’s chat(everyone else chat.) it’s 4 am and i’m going to bed.

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p.s. I won't be removing my vote and will continuously vote for them until they are lynched or nightkilled (or I am)

Springer tell.

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Just because he insinuated you were immoral doesn’t mean you have to get mad. :3

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Could you stop not omgusing and not analyzing who on your wagon is scum gamma.

It’s like 99% of the reason I think you’re scum this game.

I’d share this with you in our scum PT but i can’t post there for scum reason. <3

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Nope. I just think you’re well practiced at the fine art of omgus and analysis of motivation.
There’s a lot of people who have played with you with vastly different impressions of your play this game. I’m just giving my 2c.

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I think Taylor is town tbh.

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Wait actually never mind.
Maybe she just knows gamma is town.

Mena’s Interpretation of that is whack.

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I just wanted to note that both a50 and superbowl were playing differently than their normal games and both Mage and norway also noted it. I mean, ppl buy thier claim and they aren't getting eliminated anytime soon (prob) and I guess I'm just kinda rambling here and maybe there's not much of a point here but yeah...

Stop town telling so hard.

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Is it your goal to get nked n1 every game nero.

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I changed my mind.
Nerocain is the scummiest player in this game.

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Wow. I should vote you for that but I can’t find the vote button.
You’re very suspicious though. Once I find my vote button you’re dead.

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That’s the opposite of what he did. Reflexively he starting omgusing and examining the wagon and our motivations.
It’s only when we explained our reasons that he was like “oh that’s valid.”

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He’a Basically untouchable to me now tho.
If the scum want to try I will hard defend him and hopefully not be an idiot if he claims god cop and doctor.

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That’s a fascinating RVS.

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VC I mean.

So are scum evenly distributed on every wagon or just piled on two/on the outskirts?

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Bell, why aren’t you voting

Cause A50 said a thing which made me wanna slow down.

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Or maybe I am gamma’s scum partner. Tee hee.

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Oops missed that, no sadly that means i can only win when scum wins because all third parties are scum

So like my role is green but im scum basically

So your claim is serious, you’re a third party and you win with the scum team.
Why would you claim that?

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I’m only half reading so I don’t know if it’s a joke.

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Busy today probably won’t post. Look forward to coming back to a 150page d1.

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Oh god this game is multi ball and I’m town.

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VOTE: Titus

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A50 check the hood.

Pedit: The hood started with me, Nero, mastina. We added A50.

Titus I find this odd from you. Assuming you’re town rule of three implies one of Mastina/Nero/you is scum.
Why invite a mason claim to a hood with likely scum? That seems odd for you.

Working with a mason is a good thing. Even supposing there's scum in the hood,

which there is not,

a mason just works with town. We can sort out the Army that way.

?

Ugh and I thought I felt bad yesterday.

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We're actually mod confirmed to each other. See mastina's readwall having me as town before I posted.

Oh

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UNVOTE:

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VOTE: Mathblade

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But our conclusion is that we're all town aligned and the setup is designed to have us turn on each other.

????

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@Bell - what you got on Math? I feel like they’re decently townie, but just kind of pushing left and right

The second they started pushing against someone that said were mod confirmed to each other with 3 players was the second he scum claimed.

And then Titus walked it back. But that shouldn’t shake my initial feeling on mathblade though also

Alskfjsnck

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what are the odds A50 is a cult leader?

I’m already depressed. Stop making me more depressed.

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Why does it matter if it looks like you’re stalling if you’re literally confirmed to each other.

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I’m passing on that sort of set up speculation because even in the best of circumstances I’m an idiot in regards to game balance and mod thinking.

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VOTE: Mathblade

If I was a DayVig I'd be shooting you right now.

UNVOTE: Was gunna unvote him soonish.

VOTE: s_s

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I can’t bring myself to care about those two reads.

I do agree that Swift seems townie.

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Assuming you’re town rule of three implies one of Mastina/Nero/you is scum.

Rule of... huh? Are you trying to modWIFOM schadd?

^scum

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Dying. Not going to post more today.
I think s_s would be more engaged with all the claims/ set up spec if town here.

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Assuming you’re town rule of three implies one of Mastina/Nero/you is scum.

Rule of... huh? Are you trying to modWIFOM schadd?

^scum

That's possible. Want to wagon it?

VOTE: SS

Already wagoning it

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I’m a town honorary scum-member I lose when the scum win. But everyone thinks i’m scum with someone for bad reasons. Except joyed who is correct but i’m very embarrassed to explain that it’s due to irl issues and has nothing to do with the game.

We can slow down. But S_S where my head be at and i’m no good at role spec.

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i checked signups. it said no "epic bastard" I don't think that means cult is impossible

It's a fancy way to say no bastard so yes it does

You’re better than this as town.

Dieee

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It’s not about that, it’s about where your focus is.
It’s all wrong. You’re one or two steps behind.

Gunna nap.

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Have a midterm so officially peacing until tomorrow afternoon. Don't do anything too crazy while I'm gone *queue my quickelim*

GL

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i think the SS wagon (other than the scumslip) is about as good as the gamma wagon yesterday. that is to say, i think its not good. and how often do scumslips actually come from scum?

Can you clarify this? I read it multple times and it sounds like you're implying the Gamma wagon wasn't good.

it hit scum (probably?). in that sense it was good. but the wagon itself i thought was bad at the time. i never understood why it was so quick to form, why there were no counterwagons, except on BH who was even townier, or what the reasons for the wagon were to begin with.

Gamma's played with a lot of people. Meta. He really does omgus and self-wagon analyze way more as town than he did when he got here.

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@Mathblade:
What theory?
I have like 4 empirical bits of data that are reliable and unlikely to change but a theory seems a little far off.

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What are the premises or hypotheses of wagon theory that allow for a conclusion?

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I voted Gamma, but unvoted when A50 reversed course and argued he was town.
I also voted mastina.

I guess in wagon theory those that don't vote at end of day are more likely to be scum than not?

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Thanks blade. I'll think about that.

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Thanks blade. I'll think about that.

This is sus.
This feels like sheep.

? I'm definitely not sheeping that reasoning. I don't know you or how accurate you are as a player or whether your method even works or is better than random.

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No, i'll just think about it and consider the pov. But I'm comfy where I am (sorry if wrong S_S).

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ok norway can be in town-land as well confirmed town (or not army at least)

join me on bell norway, but im fine if you force me to compromise on DDL/S_S/TGP

If you could stop ignoring the post that says for irl reasons I’m not doing great I’d appreciate it.

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That first one sure does sound like me.

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It pleases me, I felt pretty good about day 1 tbh.

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Bell, vote DDL.

VOTE: DDL

Fine. But later when s-s turns out to be scum I told you so.

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I’m not sure what ddl will flip because I’m town this game.

I’ve never seen town ddl.

I do tend to bus, don’t I?

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I’m not sure what ddl will flip because I’m town this game.

Why should I buy your LAMIST

Cause it follows your win condition if you’re town and if it doesn’t, I don’t care.

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Was I not bussing S_S.
My bus was derailed.

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@Joyed, you're basically just saying that based off your experience with him you don't think he's scum yeah?

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I can't tell on April. The thread exploded and I'm on 2 hours of sleep.

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I'm okay with moving votes to April if Mastina is that confident in it.

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Math, I never ever want to vote you this game, but whatever your problem is, there must be a better way to communicate in a productive, protown manner.

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Math, I never ever want to vote you this game, but whatever your problem is, there must be a better way to communicate in a productive, protown manner.

This is a protown manner.

I am explaining my dilemma.

People aren’t addressing the dilemma.

I try again.

People aren’t addressing the dilemma.

I give up and submit to sheer silliness.

Now I am getting yelled at for how I am pointing out the silliness.

Like it’s ridiculous.

Please compromise. There is definitely a way for you to make your point once or twice and move on while playing with it in mind.
It's not like trusting people is a good idea in this game without sufficient evidence to back up that level of trust.

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I don't think I ever want to tell someone to do that. But my win condition might depend on whether you're willing to crack a smile and take it in stride.

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I don't think I ever want to tell someone to do that. But my win condition might depend on whether you're willing to crack a smile and take it in stride.

Here you go

There’s your smile.

I gotta go

Thanks.

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Consider me back pedaling on S_S due to recent posts on this page. I have no idea what the last ten pages contain and I am unlikely to read them today.

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If ever.

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Sorry.
Sorry.

It’s irl stuff+Health issues.
I’m contemplating taking a 24 hour v/la or something.

Also, yay another 2 and a half hour nap.

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Though, even in the best of times i’m Severely underequipt to solve this kind of complex game format. I lack the fundamental experience.

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Q: what about april’s response is scum indicative for him?

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Also, I don’t think S_S and I debugging is going to work.

Also, would it be strange to ask for some sort of partial mass claim where we just ask who the regular town are?

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Bummer. Forget I asked.

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Something something the siiblings finally agree on something sitcom laugh track.

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Our town wincons are the same i presume, which are we win when we eliminate all threats to town

You know, I missed that in my initial role pm. Maybe if i’d looked at it harder, I’d have realized we were in multi ball sooner.

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I mean, we’ll find out as the nights progress won’t we?

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I actually directly asked schadd if the game was multi ball when gamma flipped and he said he wouldn’t answer that.

Threats can mean multiple mafia or multiple factions. The yellow alien flip is a big clue tho.

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Do you guys want me to hammer?

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I’ll do it even though i’m Not sure about this one *stares directly at shellyc* I’ll take responsibility since people seem
Set on this.

But I still don’t see it from a play aspect. Mechanically it’s pretty much trusting mastina and I don’t trust people that don’t show their homework because that’s dumb.

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Eh, you’ll be okay blade.

Wait I thought you didn’t care if he got hammered A50.

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Oh well. It should be a scumflip.

Hopefully.

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VOTE: Norwegianboyeee

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Not to be super wifom but would jjh show up on that list if he was aesthetic?

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I do not like the council of 6 because I am not on the council of 6.

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Why didn't you just discuss it with them before posting it here?

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It doesn't really matter how many reasons you have, you pretty much set up munched him instead of trying to read him.

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Maybe don't do that in the future.
Moving on
am I scum yet.

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Looks like everyone thinks it's DDL.

I do not disagree. Though would like to note that Schadd said at least 1. So there could be two or more in that list.
I don't know how much I should be trusting the self-proclaimed 3rd party town block. This game could be easy or we could be on the cusp of being mowed down.

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Moving on
am I scum yet.

most likely yes

Is...Is there a reason you keep reading me wrong or?

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Like, what do you want me to do Shelly.
I have been right about pretty much everything this game and yet I'm still scum to you.

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Wait, given how wrong I tend to be maybe that is a reason to suspect me.

Hum. I just got lucky.

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What is the the additional win con and given how I remember someone mentioning how unlikely that win con is to be achieved why hasn't it been mentioned yet?

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Looks like everyone thinks it's DDL.

I do not disagree. Though would like to note that Schadd said at least 1. So there could be two or more in that list.
I don't know how much I should be trusting the self-proclaimed 3rd party town block. This game could be easy or we could be on the cusp of being mowed down.

this is such a fence-sitty post it hurts

what i want you to do is obvtown or I'll be deathtunnelling

Where's the fence?

Also, that's depressing and makes a lot of sense Shelly. I guess if I were you, I would try to force the super obv town who has a style geared toward obvious towning to always be going 100%.

But like, I can't. It's tiring and I wanna live life sometimes.

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I didn't roll scum this game tho.

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I said I do not disagree, which is another way of saying I agree. Also, didn't I vote DDL earlier.
So obviously I don't disagree. The heck Shelly.

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He was mechanically cleared if this wasn't multiball by Shadd.

We're voting to give him a bullet proof vest.

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If I were scum I would not be posting at 2:38 Am.
Because I would be worried about slipping.

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I guess I'm town reading shelly now.

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I've been scum two times on this account. I can't access my games from 6 years ago but you shouldn't need them since I played in both sufficiently so that you should get a relatively good idea.


https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=83774
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=83914

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If you meta me and do not town read me I will explode on you though.

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bell whats up with that 180

aside from mech what do you think makes shelly town

There are mechanical reasons you're town this game?

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Your approach seems more on the level here than the other games in terms of communication style. Rather I feel kind of like there's less fuzz between your text voice talking to me and your alignment.

Yeah, don't ask me either. I don't know what it means. Just enjoy that Bell town recognized ShellyC and maybe gave one of the scum team a minor headahe because the reason's were bad.

[Bell]

Scum hate it when town are right for the wrong reasons.

[Bell]

Can I sleep now?
We good?

[Bell]

I would like to just state that for whatever reason my worthless gut says Titus is scum.
Someone said she was confirmed masons with another player or two. could you guys reiterate there that this is the case and that Titus is confirmed town so I don't have to brain space case myself.

[Bell]

Or 3rd party town buddy, whatever you call it.

[Bell]

Extremely, i was very offended.

[Bell]

I wanna be town buddies with the other, regular towns people.

[Bell]

Titus, seriously.
Why can’t I stop scum reading you when I know you aren’t scum this game? What’s wrong with me.
Do I have Titusitis?

[Bell]

are you guys sure you should be hiding your win conditions so that we can’t veto those so you’re forced to play towards the town’s win conditions.

Can’t you guys just come down and be town with the rest of the town rather than the cool secret council with the hoods and the secret meetings.

[Bell]

I’m not even sure what NorwegianboyEE and the rest of the people invited to the council get by keeping that secret, but I swear Norwe sounds like one of those PR people that come down from the mountain to tell us about how cool and chill the church is.

[Bell]

What I’m trying to say is that while having the literally hammer of god over my head, I would like to protest.

Because I am stupid and I am a townnail that sticks out.
It is my nature.

[Bell]

Am I town yet

[Bell]

I’m not even sure what NorwegianboyEE and the rest of the people invited to the council get by keeping that secret, but I swear Norwe sounds like one of those PR people that come down from the mountain to tell us about how cool and chill the church is.

Praise cthulhu.

Praise be.

[Bell]

You caught me. I don't know who the scum are. I am townfused. I did vote DDL tho. Which might look good if he flips scum and not so much if he doesn't.

[Bell]

Joking aside do I just wait here and pray that somehow everything will be okay.

[Bell]

I just wanna see A50 hit scum.
I don't mind if I lose to the third party.

[Bell]

Dazzle me A50, show me how it's done.

[Bell]

Scum hate it when town are right for the wrong reasons.

This is why i scumread april at the end of yesterday

Town also hate it when they're being scum read for reasons (all of which are wrong by definition).

[Bell]

Its amazing you guys are not focusing on the mechanical inconsistency that April detected motion from titus and madrina says he can't.

Thank you. Finally a reason for my paranoia.
The reason I did not read it is because I am tired and miserable.

Sorry for shit posting. I haven't slept much the past week.

[Bell]

Okay, maybe Titus is right about Pickaxe.
He’s more natural as town.

[Bell]

Though also, titus’s defense of DDL does not read like town either and i’ve Been told multiple times they’re confirmed third party and for all purposes town and I just cannot shut up about this.

My scumdar is broken.

[Bell]

I mean it was never a very good scumdar, but it was mine you know? We traveled together.

[Bell]

Also, the shade detection throw by DDL that was dismantled by S_S reset the thought. It wasn’t a good point from DDL.

[Bell]

DDL vs Pete is just a case of who seems to be playing. Ddl only memorable post for me is about the BTS army. Pete I remember a post here or there.

Jjh is SK or scum because of play and ascetic claim. I disagree with Mastina’s setup spec again. Shocking I know. I lean SK simply because town Vig is too much power and being able to track JJH to a kill would then be either such a boon/bust to be ridiculous.

If I had a three way nuke I wouldn’t cry about them dying. I just don’t think wagoning any of them gives anything since their entire play is lurker hell.

Not posting every 8 hours is lurking. Figured that out end of Day 1.

You just said a whole lot of jjh is scummy for reasons but didn't say anything about ddl or me. Why should ddl or I be wagoned for lurking if we're town and jjh is scummy?

This is a pretty interesting and rare argument if coming from town. Usually town care less about winning arguments.

[Bell]

Or at least, those kinds of arguments.

[Bell]

Titus said it was anti town to share the extra win condition even though the extra win condition is one in which the town loses but the block wins. It uh, was a wild take.

[Bell]

hey, Bell you have been reminding everyone how pro-town I am. Why have you stopped?

Weren’t you mechanically cleared?

[Bell]

hey, Bell you have been reminding everyone how pro-town I am. Why have you stopped?

Admit it, you just enjoy hearing how town you are.

[Bell]

I give you this with my blessing.
Nerocain is very townie and working in the town’s interests.

Also, when you turn out to be a serial killer i am gunna look so, so dumb.

[Bell]

I'm not reading you correctly either tho and I'm town.