mystery box of silver 10. (done)

[Tayl0r Swift]

ahhhhhh im very confused here. morning is always to be townread, but BM is always to be scumread. now that theyre hydraing i think i have to townread them but hardpush them anyway.

VOTE: morning mage

[Tayl0r Swift]

while i agree that 49 is kinda bad, i think that 57 is way worse. ill be keeping a close eye on that slot. its probably scum.

[Tayl0r Swift]

You're not really in love with this post but aren't all that certain this makes us scum.

~Buttercup

im not really in love with this post but not certain that it makes them scum.

[Tayl0r Swift]

are either of you going to sign your posts. Please tell me one of you will

~Buttercup

implicitly yes. BM will make shitty posts, while morning will make cute posts and use emojis.

[Tayl0r Swift]

while i agree that 49 is kinda bad, i think that 57 is way worse. ill be keeping a close eye on that slot. its probably scum.

fixed the links. still agree with the sentiment.

[Tayl0r Swift]

??????

So in post 45 you call a post that hasn't been written yet bad?

how can you question my methods when you see the genius of my results?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Tayl0r and Nero feels like TvS. Tempted to call Tayl0r the town and sheep her reads

~Buttercup

serious post?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Christopher vs the hydras feels like SvS. Tempted to policy launch all of those slots

~Buttercup

agreed.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i've sr this slot every game, eventually I'll be right
VOTE: taylor

wrong. i specifically bribe the mod every time we are in a game together to make me town. in fact, if you ever replace in and im scum, my alignment will change.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i've sr this slot every game, eventually I'll be right
VOTE: taylor

great post! locktown!

pog

i dont know what that means!

Play of the game.
- Google

wrong
im actually semi serious on taylor. quoting a post this early seems high effort which I didn't see when they were town.

i giggled

[Tayl0r Swift]

i've sr this slot every game, eventually I'll be right
VOTE: taylor

wrong. i specifically bribe the mod every time we are in a game together to make me town. in fact, if you ever replace in and im scum, my alignment will change.

i also suspect this is against site policy

if you bribe the right people you can change site policy too

[Tayl0r Swift]

are either of you going to sign your posts. Please tell me one of you will

~Buttercup

implicitly yes. BM will make shitty posts, while morning will make cute posts and use emojis.

it's all relative! i'm certain that compared to yours, my posts will be positively insightful.

im most looking forward to pages upon pages of me debating with my better half about who is scum.

assuming you're the other one who's gonna be cutesy and use emojis? dope

no the emojis morning uses are unicode

[Tayl0r Swift]

Is quoting directly from a topic allowed?

like a completed game? I do it all the time.

No i mean from a PT related to this game. While it's ongoing.

Are you claiming yo have a PT

in this game

?

Hold on he has to check with his PT before answering this

no scum norwee thought that ban hydras copy pasted from their hydra pt but they copied from the sign up thread

pedit: oh go FUCK YOURSELF
VOTE: superbowl please lynch this scum fuck

VOTE: superbowl

you can be town for now echo.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Tayl0r and Nero feels like TvS. Tempted to call Tayl0r the town and sheep her reads

~Buttercup

It sure is an interesting interaction. The way how Nero responded to the edited links and questioning the initial response only after that happened is exactly the opposite of how id expect town to respond

nero still hasnt clarified whether he was serious. it feels like he was tho

[Tayl0r Swift]

fyi i know:
bell
april
hectic
menal
taylor
norwee
and echo

I feel sort of left out

who are you?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Hi Bell hi Hectic hi Hopkirk hi Vecna hi BM >ω< hi almost hi Superbowl hi Mena hi Gamma hi Tayl0r hi

*gasp*

hi jjh927 hi Titus hi Norwe hi Plus and hi DrDoLittle !!

~Morning

haha see morning posts are obvious.
hi morning!

[Tayl0r Swift]

What do you mean agressive-person?

You just called powerpuff girls anime... the weeb community is in shambles

Are you saying powerpuff girls isn't an anime? I'm sorry if me saying it is hurt anyone, I wouldn't want to make anyone in the weeb community feel sad. I hope they can keep enjoying all their favoruite shows like Avatar the Last Airbender and Miraculous Ladybug in peace.

-Blossom

[Tayl0r Swift]

What do you mean agressive-person?

You just called powerpuff girls anime... the weeb community is in shambles

Why though. You could consider it an western anime.

aka a childrens cartoon right?

[Tayl0r Swift]

It felt like it kind of yeah. Jumping on doesn't have to necessarily be an attack so much as a 'look at me I'm doing stuff'. Not that that's inherently bad to answer your likely follow up of 'oh, so you don't think there's other stuff I could be saying in thread, pls Hop'.

So what are your thoughts on humor and Hectic and Taylor in general.

Firstly I think your take is super bad. What should I have been talking about on p4 that was so important that I shouldn't have pointed out a wierd post from Taylor? From my pov the only thing of substance was the mini wagon on Mage and his scum read on DS.. And I commented on that in 27 . I wasn't a fan of Vecna calling that "try hard" and throwing shade when I'm *gasp*

PLAYING THE GAME!

Its like he's trying to shut down content and wanted me to be a fluffy little troll. So yes, I don't think there was anything worth commenting on from p2 and 3.

Well, Taylor is clearly a gimmick alt. nothing they've said has been particularly great or bad so im null here. I don't

get

45 wich is why I asked about it. Hectic is a troll. Anyone that says he's is a big fat liar. I mean, he may believe that trolling and doing some kind of slayers gambit might be good play or something but my opinion is that he's a troll and doesn't particularly add much to a game. Humor is fine to an extent. I like seeing more posting and its generally good for town but getting this 150-200 page d1 that are mostly fluff and devoid of much content is both bad for the town and not as funny as ppl think they are. Although I'm a hypocrite b/c when I joke I think its dunny but think most others are just annoying.

fine, you caught me. im a hectic alt. pls dont tell anyone.

i think im about ready for a srs bsns nero wagon

[Tayl0r Swift]

What do you mean agressive-person?

You just called powerpuff girls anime... the weeb community is in shambles

Why though. You could consider it an western anime.

aka a childrens cartoon right?

Scum.

youre saying im scum for being an anime purist? or for saying that powerpuff girls is for kids?

[Tayl0r Swift]

I think it's sufficient to talk hypothetically - if I'm proven wrong, I'll be pleasantly surprised and you'll have been mildly inconvenienced. If I'm right, it'll be helpful to me in sorting you, to see if you stay true to your proposed plan to evaluate her slot.

My proposed plan to evaluating her slot is to let her post and then read her just like any other slot in the game. She's not the only one 100% joking around in RVS

~Buttercup

i dont believe in humor. in the sense that i dont think it exists. all my posts are very serious, and should be taken as such.

btw im scum.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i think im about ready for a srs bsns nero wagon

im not really understanding what you are thinking here. Why do you think im scum?

so i dont have any meta on you. but meta aside, asking a question is fine, but youve made a couple posts through the thread subtly shading me for an obvious joke. and not getting the joke is generally scum-indicative, but moreover pushing me this hard over a joke seems like scum reaching for things to push on because they cant genuinely scumhunt.

VOTE: nero

[Tayl0r Swift]

in the time it took me to catch up on the past couple hours there were another 5 pages....

[Tayl0r Swift]

Oh cool more people I know joined after I did
ngl I mostly forgot about this
Baldur's gate is making other things easy to forget

I'd like to take a moment to clarify to a few players in particular that my playstyle has now become considerably more efficient, in that I will still find scum for you but I'm not as likely to put in the effort to tell you why they are scum, and you shouldn't expect me to hyperpost like I used to. I have a job now and that means I have less time, but I still have the same number of things that get to conflict with me playing mafia. On an unrelated note, back to Baldur's gate.

mastina this is jjh's only real post (the other one was a greeting). how can you be so confident in jjh town based on this?

[Tayl0r Swift]

so i dont have any meta on you. but meta aside, asking a question is fine, but youve made a couple posts through the thread subtly shading me for an obvious joke. and not getting the joke is generally scum-indicative, but moreover pushing me this hard over a joke seems like scum reaching for things to push on because they cant genuinely scumhunt.

I haven't been shading you or pushing you

you made several posts harping on about my joke post, and as soon as people questioned you about it you backed off. im just not understanding whats going on in your head atm.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i asked why you made that post. Its not harpng. Its only a think b/c ppl keep asking me about it so it keeps getting brought up. I've never once called you scum.

yet another post where nero is hardpushing me over an obvious joke.

[Tayl0r Swift]

stop tunneling me dude.

[Tayl0r Swift]

big fat ol' pile of dead-null (I realize this pool is too big, I want help in sorting that area)

I gotchu Im town so you can move me up there instead of the player with 0 posts

is this a hardclaim?

[Tayl0r Swift]

told you guys SB was scum

Caught red handed

because it contradicts this

[Tayl0r Swift]

what was lamisty about it?

[Tayl0r Swift]

I do believe this is going to be a game that is impossible to write a catch up post for.
So instead I guess I'll have to skim and just hope for the best.

VOTE: Golden Paradox

Slight scum ping. Could be wrong.

could you elaborate on the reasoning for this vote bell?

[Tayl0r Swift]

I do believe this is going to be a game that is impossible to write a catch up post for.
So instead I guess I'll have to skim and just hope for the best.

VOTE: Golden Paradox

Slight scum ping. Could be wrong.

could you elaborate on the reasoning for this vote bell?

[Tayl0r Swift]

mastina i have some thoughts about bell. could you talk to me about what pinged you there so i can compare?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Feeling strongly that (norwee, A50, nero) is a strong starting point for the solve

This is Nero's town meta, so no on that.
I'll admit that I'm not absolutely sure Almost50's town but I do lean that way, too.

But, would listen on Norwee since that's not a slot I know well.

Mena scumreads me when i’m town every game so not the best place to look for advice on me.

isnt that because youre scum every game though?

[Tayl0r Swift]

isnt that because youre scum every game though?

can you start being serious now? Who are your scumreads?

no, and ill get to that in a minute.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i feel like copypasta is the sort of low-grade shitposting that mostly comes from scum. uncluttered town minds do not require plagiarism to shitpost at the highest levels.

[Tayl0r Swift]

*wishes for a VC*

Not reading RVS. Playing from here.

and for some reason mastina thinks youre town?

[Tayl0r Swift]

*wishes for a VC*

Not reading RVS. Playing from here.

and for some reason mastina thinks youre town?

Yup. She also knows I hunt by association so that pushing me D1 is rather useless.

ok but that doesnt make you town.

[Tayl0r Swift]

458 Dunno how i feel about early big reads lists as it comes off as a bit Lamist. And some of thos reads seem like they’re just tossed in there.

@Mastina
Why are your scumreads what they are?

I have such a hard time with Norwee.

These two posts so close together show he's really thinking about the game I think or at least Mastina. But he hasn't omgussed yet, which worries me.

you think town!norwee would omgus?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Ugh we're still in RVS.

its only been 20 pages titus, give it time!

[Tayl0r Swift]

VOTE: menal

[Tayl0r Swift]

Ugh we're still in RVS.

I'm not.

Mastina's vote is bad.

yeah i dont like mastina at all so far but i dont like plus either so im not gonna vote mastina.

[Tayl0r Swift]

(I actually gut townread you on the low b/c of your confidence tho, dont tell anyone)

titus is always confident. her acceptance of townpoints for something she always does is sketchy to me.

[Tayl0r Swift]

yeah im waiting for mastina to respond to my questions before passing judgement.

[Tayl0r Swift]

a50, how many times have you played with mena?

This is probably our 11th game together (at least that's what my topics search shows. I don't remember if I played with him under any of my alts)

oh so youre hectic too?

[Tayl0r Swift]

@Mastina
Why are your scumreads what they are?

Well, I just explained the Bell scumread.

The powerpuff girl hydra scumread comes mostly from feeling like, if they were town, that I

should

be townreading them...and yet, having an utter absence of a townread. They are one of the top-two posters in the game, as in, literally only one slot has more posts than them--plenty of content to sift through for getting a townread.

And yet.

I don't have one on them.

Everything they've done is a big ol' fat pile of null. Nothing that even remotely looks alignment-indicative. And while I realize that there is a lack of scumminess just as much as there is the lack of towniness, in a void, where both are absent, the alignment I'd expect is scum because if they were town I'd expect there to not be the void, I'd expect to have a read one way or another.

So basically, it's an "absence of evidence is evidence itself" sort of scumread.

For the Morning Mage hydra, it's largely similar, with a side of thinking that the Battle Mage from this game might be the same as the Battle Mage from my last game with him--basically, I'm not townreading the slot and I would expect to be townreading the top-poster in the game if they were town. But, this is explicitly not a strong read, because while Battle Mage's opener might've given me minor scumpings, it's not total deja vu, his game here doesn't seem like it's a perfect match to that scumgame, and overall it's not a strong scumread and has a significant chance of being wrong.

Heck, I'd probably call the Morning Mage scumread weaker than the Ban Hydras scumread. It's more or less a scumread for the sake of having a scumread, because in this game I should have five scumreads and right now even including all three, I'd have only three--but really, it's even worse than that; I have only one.

(I have one real scumread and what amounts to two rvs-tier-scumreads, when I need five real scumreads.)

So I've got a while to go yet before I can get so much as an initial solve.

why do you need 5 real scumreads?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Since when do scum pick the setup at all?

Did you read the intro & specifications to the game you signed up to??

motifs of the series:

assignment of roles to town by mafia; heavy information to mafia;

night actions being determined by events (e.g., two players are assigned to collaboratively use a doctor ability); normal roles or otherwise non-flashy roles; uncertain guilties vs. certain innocents; setup fake-outs; vanilla by any other name tastes just as sweet.

my understanding of this was these were things that happened in the series, but none of them were guaranteed in this game. if all of those things were to happen itd be a basically open setup

[Tayl0r Swift]

@Taylor, That's mastina. She doesn't feel like she has a good grip until she has a full scumteam guess.

What do you think of Melanque?

so you dont think that the specific number was a slip? i dont remember seeing the number of scum present in the setup being given. uhh menal has been a person in the thread. i remember having thoughts, i dont remember what they were. i can go read the iso real fast. i should say that in my experience with menal usually you notice his presence right away, so thats a bit odd.

[Tayl0r Swift]

hmm ok i reread and menal seemed a little bit too excited about the nero wagon. it pings scum but its kinda obvious. people who know menal better can tell me whether thats something scum!menal would actually do. but whats really interesting is that menal switched to voting plus and hasnt mentioned nero since. nero is now near the top of the readlist though. makes me scratch my head. maybe the nero push was a meme, it was early game. i also dislike the wanting to flip his townreads if we dont catch scum early. it reeks of fake paranoia. so i think menal is a solid scumread for me. VOTE: menal

also, i think your real question was asking if im scum with menal. the answer is yes.

[Tayl0r Swift]

hmm ok i reread and menal seemed a little bit too excited about the nero wagon. it pings scum but its kinda obvious. people who know menal better can tell me whether thats something scum!menal would actually do. but whats really interesting is that menal switched to voting plus and hasnt mentioned nero since. nero is now near the top of the readlist though. makes me scratch my head. maybe the nero push was a meme, it was early game. i also dislike the wanting to flip his townreads if we dont catch scum early. it reeks of fake paranoia. so i think menal is a solid scumread for me. VOTE: menal

also, i think your real question was asking if im scum with menal. the answer is yes.

It wasn't. I happen to have mena as weak town and would like him to open more up on his reads.

Why did you feel I was trying to link the two of you?

well why ask me about my thoughts about menal?

[Tayl0r Swift]

someone post a vote count so I can bandwagon please

WoW gUyS lOoK aT tHiS oBvToWn!1!

[Tayl0r Swift]

hrmmmm....

there's something kinda off feeling about Taylor.

Like.....the dumbhead of ban hydra was pushing me for pushing Taylor despite me not actully pushing Taylor and then Taylor got on my wagon for the same reason. I took it mostly as her joking though.

Mena was supposedly joke scum reading me or something. You could argue that its all a lie and he's just scum that joined what he thought would be an easy wagon and then switched gears when I wasn't going to get eliminated. but Taylor like glossed over that and is saying that Mena was legit scumreading me and is sus for not talking about me anymore. Its like she's only halfway paying attention to the game.

i mean its a lot of pages, so i did somewhat skim the last 10. but in my read on menal i did address that and suggest that it was probably just a joke rather than actually scum looking for an easy wagon. it seems that youre the one not reading carefully.

[Tayl0r Swift]

someone post a vote count so I can bandwagon please

WoW gUyS lOoK aT tHiS oBvToWn!1!

To be fair, we need 12 votes and D1 is low-info.
I don’t think it’s an inherently scummy position, even if scum can easily coast by just stating they just want a lim and don’t contribute much.

i mean... fair, i dont think its inherently scummy. i just am skeptical when people are overconfident.

[Tayl0r Swift]

can someone walk me through the gamma wagon? it seems half meme and half VCA around early wagons... i dont understand.

[Tayl0r Swift]

can someone walk me through the gamma wagon? it seems half meme and half VCA around early wagons... i dont understand.

It's not VCA.

Gamma just is here and doesn't feel like he's scumhunting. It's a decent wagon for day 1.

Can you explain the Menalque wagon?

not really. gut. cant speak for anyone else.

[Tayl0r Swift]

can someone walk me through the gamma wagon? it seems half meme and half VCA around early wagons... i dont understand.

It's not VCA.

Gamma just is here and doesn't feel like he's scumhunting. It's a decent wagon for day 1.

Can you explain the Menalque wagon?

not really. gut. cant speak for anyone else.

Your read on Gamma?

Taylor, welcome to my scumblock.

oh thanks! im a little sad it took this long though. gamma has given me a couple weak pings. nothing substantial yet though, because theres not much substance yet.

[Tayl0r Swift]

@Diamond, Talk to me about your BH and superbowl9 scumreads.

BH - The constant flippancy between the heads screams of an attempt to keep people from getting a coherent read, which is itself a read.
Superbowl - Oh gosh, where to start. The constant proclamations that they're town (no really, trust them on this). Town never have to say that they're town. It's implied in what they say and how they say it. A complete lack of any transparency about their thought process. The only thing remotely towny about them is their insistence on gutreads, but given that that's about all they've done, that's deserving of a policy elim just the same. (note that my desire to remove them is not policy. It is genuine scumread. I'm saying the only thing town-like of them deserves a policy)

You remind me of Norway

well diamonds are also rough, mountainous, and cold. they arent dark though.

[Tayl0r Swift]

If you don't have a solve by the time I've reached page 40 then you go down in my estimate from 'probably a good' to 'all smoke & ego - not worth listening to'. This is going to be interesting to see.

I know I’m late but how does (superbowl, plus, gamma, Taylor) sound as a starting point

are these just the people on your wagon?

[Tayl0r Swift]

ok pls explain then

[Tayl0r Swift]

The entomology of the word is interesting

probably the best bit of the post

[Tayl0r Swift]

My townpool right now is something like this:

Nero
Vecna
TGP
Mastina
Superbowl
Taylor

@Buttercup - thoughts?

-Blossom

why would you not just post this in your pt

while it does clutter the thread a bit i like that theyre sharing publicly. it reads as genuine to me more than chaotic.

[Tayl0r Swift]

My townpool right now is something like this:

Nero
Vecna
TGP
Mastina
Superbowl
Taylor

@Buttercup - thoughts?

-Blossom

why would you not just post this in your pt

while it does clutter the thread a bit i like that theyre sharing publicly. it reads as genuine to me more than chaotic.

it doesn't to me. seems like an easy way to get towncred

Which players in the game are you saying are bad enough at mafia to think 'oh, Ban Hydras posted some of their reads, they must be town huh huh'.

-Blossom

me. i assumed you were town when you started posting tho

[Tayl0r Swift]

Oh are we finally considering banning this clownslot? Yeet
VOTE: Ban Hydras

oof.

VOTE: diamond

and i was really thinking that mr owl was scum pushing an innocent townie

[Tayl0r Swift]

Why didn't you put the first vote down on us Diamond?

-Blossom

because scum never like to start wagons.

[Tayl0r Swift]

My townpool right now is something like this:

Nero
Vecna
TGP
Mastina
Superbowl
Taylor

@Buttercup - thoughts?

-Blossom

How is Taylor in there and not me?

Is this question specific to the hydra or do you feel you've obv!towned enough someone like me should town!bin you?

I feel that no one should really be TRing Taylor atm.

titus i feel like you (and a lot of people who dont know me) tend to scumread me early on because of my weak early game. but just wait and let my towniness shine through.

[Tayl0r Swift]

But I’m not confident in that by any means

Probably easier just to townbin her D1 tho

menal wants to mutually townread titus but then immediately backs off.

[Tayl0r Swift]

So ddl is scum huh

And gamma too it looks like

so menal is scum huh

[Tayl0r Swift]

Anyway so I'm ascetic

hmm based on this subtle crumb i think i know at least one portion of jjh's role.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Why? Besides there being less information to work with if wrong?

well the less information is the main thing, yeah? isnt that sufficient?

[Tayl0r Swift]

i also have at least some experience with gamma and dont think that he should be automatically scumbinned based on his posts so far. can someone explain the gamma wagon to me though? i dont understand it beyond "he didnt do much yet". because that describes a lot of people at this stage. like why is gamma scum rather than just a bit slow to get his legs planted? i think theres enough reason for a pressure wagon there but people seem to be out for blood, and to me we are barely out of RVS and i dont understand the rush or why people are so confident scumreading gamma at this point.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Anyway so I'm ascetic

hmm based on this subtle crumb i think i know at least one portion of jjh's role.

A50 feels fake, he did crumb though. No use pushing it today though. Bullets should sort that. I didn't see any crumbs of jjh. Jjh should have claimed ascetic post 1.

Taylor saying she knows a portion of jjh's role based off his ascetic claim is also sketch.

lol titus. the part of the role i puzzled out from that crumb is that jjh is ascetic.

[Tayl0r Swift]

so, we kill one of the two who've outed to make sure it's true then go from there?

i think yes but i think not today unless we are stuck

[Tayl0r Swift]

wouldn't the third mason not claiming add risk of a cop (if one exists) wasting their ability? obviously it would thin the pool for mafia to choose from as well, but I don't think that's a bigger issue

Take a wild guess. Who do you think it is? You have ONE shot at it.

so do you not wanna answer that question or?

What was the question? I saw you suggesting the 3rd should Mason out, and I said you should guess them. Are you asking me to out my Mason buddy against their own will?

i am the third mason

[Tayl0r Swift]

At least this gets us closer to lynching Taylor.

<3

[Tayl0r Swift]

I honestly can't understand how

you

think you have the positiion to criticise anyone's playstyle. I'll try and write a long piece later, if i have time, about why Christopher is a hypocrite/not a good person to play with.

-Blossom

for a second i thought flopz is blossom and i was gonna scumread you for this, but its hopkirk so you get townpoints for saying this

[Tayl0r Swift]

I wholeheartedly believe that dragging days to the deadline doesn't actually help town that much with more information, ESPECIALLY on D1 and ESPECIALLY in fast moving games

what it does, imo, is inundate the thread with noise that makes it hard to find the important posts to find scum. plus, the added negative that it tends to lead to more town apathy with a lack of flips and action and endless back and forhts

I think it's much more pro-town on D1 to find a slot that seems scummy, run them up, get their flip and then proceed from there on D2 with the added benefit of being able to start looking at VCA and being able to use NKA

oh so you mean dragging out day 1 is about the same effect as having menal in the game?

[Tayl0r Swift]

I wholeheartedly believe that dragging days to the deadline doesn't actually help town that much with more information, ESPECIALLY on D1 and ESPECIALLY in fast moving games

what it does, imo, is inundate the thread with noise that makes it hard to find the important posts to find scum. plus, the added negative that it tends to lead to more town apathy with a lack of flips and action and endless back and forhts

I think it's much more pro-town on D1 to find a slot that seems scummy, run them up, get their flip and then proceed from there on D2 with the added benefit of being able to start looking at VCA and being able to use NKA

gamma seems scummy here?

scummy enough, sure

I'd also be fine with Taylor or plus, the important thing is to pick one, build up consensus votes and get that claim/flip

you can pretend to scumhunt better than this menal. ive seen you do it. although you did push plus there too.

[Tayl0r Swift]

or for us Star Wars fans


joke posts lead to confusion
confusion leads to stupid posts
stupid posts lead to scum reads
being scum read as town leads to miselimination
miseliminations lead to scum victory

why are you using the sith code rather than the jedi code here? scumbutt

[Tayl0r Swift]

If it's fake, the three of them will never be nightkilled and nightkills will show casting doubt on their claim. It's best to townbin for today.

I got pedited but consider BH's townread going down for that pedit.

I like the take in the first half of this. Why was the PEdit not towny?

An essay on the history of lynching is pure spam, iioa and utterly useless.

it wasnt dressed up as game advancing though was it?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Taylor OBVIOUSLY knew she would be called out on her fake claim, so I am not sure that would earn her any scum points. She was just being playful IMHO.

actually i was hoping the masonry would confirm so we could stop speculating about this nonsense and get back to playing mafia. whatever. i mean there was a small element of playfulness, but mostly it was helpfulness. especially since i do townread you A50 and want to work with you as we have in the past.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i don't think you've done anything overwhelmingly scummy
i also don't think taylor's done anything overwhelmingly scummy

i'd probably sheep titus in that scenario if i'm being brutally honest

i expect titus to be able to correctly sort me by day 3 or so, but not before then.

[Tayl0r Swift]

We can work together without making unnecessary gambits (please don't misunderstand me. I LOVE to gambit, and I do it all the time. I just thought this one would have been risky if -say- our third came in and CC'd you. Imagine what scum would do to you, me and sb in that case)

well i figured youd notice and tell the third in PT to not counter. if you just add me to your PT then we can coordinate this stuff.

[Tayl0r Swift]

I just wondered if you recognized what game the video is of

No. I don't play video games.

i dont go on the internet.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i'm fine with elimming within the claimed mason faction. but gamma has most votes and works for me today too.

VOTE: gamma

WOW that is a bad take. and a bad vote. morning please come spew town so i dont vote your hydra partner.

[Tayl0r Swift]

why is no one concerned that no real counterwagon has formed to gamma? if the best ally gamma has is me saying "theres something questionable there but i dunno about a 10-person wagon" then where are the scumbuddies and why arent they doing anything to help?

also why does the gamma wagon, as weak as it seems to be, have such longevity? this gamestate doesnt make sense to me if gamma is scum. here i go defending gamma. i guess i must be scum too. oops.

[Tayl0r Swift]

To be fair, i would gladly switch to Ban Hydras if it became apparent interest in eliminating Gamma was dying.

thats also a dumb wagon.

"oooh i dont like hydrae, therefore this hydra must be scum!!!"
"theyre posting too much!"
"they posted about language policing rather than whos scum this one time!"
"shut up loudmouth"

i feel like im decent at sorting the people in that hydra, and i feel like i can sort them as town here.

[Tayl0r Swift]

/townspew over

inb4 titus and menal decide im even scummier now

[Tayl0r Swift]

/townspew over

inb4 titus and menal decide im even scummier now

Didn't you think Mena was scum though? So that means he'd most likely scumread you regardless.

Anyway you're voting Diamond? Why is he scum?

not sure. my reads are kinda scattered. i dont take notes and the game is a bit too large for my already scatterbrained brain to get a good grasp. if you want i can re-read DS. but im more inclined to just vote menal who is probably my top scumread rn.

[Tayl0r Swift]

also why does the gamma wagon, as weak as it seems to be, have such longevity? this gamestate doesnt make sense to me if gamma is scum. here i go defending gamma. i guess i must be scum too. oops.

You are, and so am I.. and a couple more (I don't remember all of them, but I seem to remember DS expressing the same notion). And -by extension- my Mason buddies are also Scum (although I've been trying to convince sb to trust my TR on Gamma). Who else? I guess that's about it. 6-8 scums all on the same team.

seems like a pretty impressive scumteam. i think that theory about 10 scum might not be that far off.

[Tayl0r Swift]

To be fair, i would gladly switch to Ban Hydras if it became apparent interest in eliminating Gamma was dying.

VOTE: Ban Hydras
I've already expressed why I want to vote here, and I think now is the best time to do it.

oof. big oof. hmm. youre still probably town, but i dont like the vote or the timing.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Are you actually asking me of all people why i do things?
I don't even know myself.

hah this describes me like 90% of the time

[Tayl0r Swift]

Also if gamma actually flips red yall are gonna have a lotttttttt of explaining to do

dont forget that youre scum with gamma, youre supposed to be defending him.

[Tayl0r Swift]

I dont understand why we are acting as though a PSA to do the right thing is 1 game-relevant and 2 a bad idea to post? If you dont like it there’s a button in the middle of your mouse that will take it off the screen for you

i dont see how changing my mouse sensitivity will get that off my screen.

[Tayl0r Swift]

^but don’t you feel like this is a convo for post-game or another thread? You’re the #1 elim option for today, shouldn’t you have bigger fish to fry

Yeah that's fair, but when I'm asked about my reasons for my BH vote I am gonna mention that. I can't really save something for post-game if I'm constantly pressed on it.

So you think that was AI?????? Are you hi?

hello!

[Tayl0r Swift]

Also if gamma actually flips red yall are gonna have a lotttttttt of explaining to do

dont forget that youre scum with gamma, youre supposed to be defending him.

How funny would it be if the scumteam is Taylor, A50, gamma, and superbowl and taylor is getting pissed because superbowl is going off script and bussing gamma instead of trying to save him

and there is no third mason because we're scum and i went off script when i claimed mason because it was supposed to be wifom and A50 is lecturing me in the PT? ha, good one.

[Tayl0r Swift]

"Someone's overdoing it" is all I'm going to say at this point.

sorry i cant help myself sometimes.

VOTE: norwee

because the two leading wagons are shit, norwee has plenty of scum equity, and no one seems to want to go for menal despite people stating scumreads.

[Tayl0r Swift]

hmmm morning normally you and i townread each other pretty fast. is it because i havent flopped your ears yet?

[Tayl0r Swift]

im like 50 pages behind at this point. ill try to catch up tomorrow, been real busy irl and have not had time to sit down and read this very long thread. im caught up to page 69. feel free to drop questions for me, ill answer asap.

[Tayl0r Swift]

im like 50 pages behind at this point. ill try to catch up tomorrow, been real busy irl and have not had time to sit down and read this very long thread. im caught up to page 69. feel free to drop questions for me, ill answer asap.

Are you willing to speedguillo MM out of the gate tomorrow, why/why not?

so i can only give a decent answer to this after ive read. but probably not. i need that time to catch up on reading! or maybe yes because then i can read at night while you all have to be quiet.

[Tayl0r Swift]

otoh. Mena and to a lwesser extent suberbowl, trying to rush a Gamma lynch looks p bad to me.

I'm of the opposite mindset.

Without Menalque hard-pushing for Gamma's death, we might not have ousted Gamma D1.

And the way Menalque pushed Gamma is, 100%, not the way a scumbuddy would push their scumbuddy.

Suggesting otherwise is literally the most backwards-ass moonlogicky shit ever.

Menalque is HARD-cleared by Gamma's flip.

...that's not even close to what happened. Menalque was not a leading proponent of the Gamma wagon, and at one point was part of the counterwagon. He abandoned the counterwagon when it stalled to re-join the already big Gamma leadwagon.

Your revisionist history here to defend Menalque under false pretenses is scummy.

Assuming Menalque flips red too, Mastina next obviously please.

What do you think about this post taylor?

why would gammas flip clear mena? also why are we talking about gammas flip before the flip?
as for the post itself - im not sure. like i dont know the facts of who voted what when, but its unlikely that scum would straight up lie about events, theyre facts taht can be checked. someone is twisting someone, but without checking i cant tell who or why. or maybe everyone is just big-egoing, and the reality is this is TvTvT and you all need to chill and take a step back.

[Tayl0r Swift]

im like 50 pages behind at this point. ill try to catch up tomorrow, been real busy irl and have not had time to sit down and read this very long thread. im caught up to page 69. feel free to drop questions for me, ill answer asap.

What's your gamma read as of right now (page 69)?

more or less null - gamma hadnt really done anything which some people scumread gamma for but unless theres a meta reason why thats scummy it seems NAI. thats why i kept saying someone needs to explain why any of gamma's case is scum-indicative. i had slight pings from gamma but nothing that justifies the wagon that appeared out of nowhere like that.

[Tayl0r Swift]

@A50, how many win conditions do you have?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Is there something I missed that implies that Gamma was groupscum and not 3p?

the daycop says norwee is not a member of that faction. would be strange if that were 3p, n'est pas?

[Tayl0r Swift]

A50 how many win conditions do you have?

[Tayl0r Swift]

A50 how many win conditions do you have?

Didn't you ask that 16 posts ago??

yeah but you posted a couple times in between and didnt answer, so i asked again in case you missed it. you answered now, thanks.

[Tayl0r Swift]

I detected motion from Titus

to be clear, you detected motion FROM titus, as in titus moved? or you detected motion TO titus, as in someone moved on titus? because my understanding of motion detector is that you detect incoming movement.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i don't think the md claim is worth much tbh

actually i think it's more likely to be a fakeclaim than a legit guilty because tracker/MD in the same setup don't make a ton of sense

i mean full tracker and public cop are already pretty powerful on their own

[Tayl0r Swift]

I detected motion from Titus

i told you Titus was scum

ping!

[Tayl0r Swift]

@schadd: Do you publically answer questions? If so if a Miller was publically copped however that happened would any modifiers such as miller or godfather come into effect? Or is this the “mod ordained” truth?

if there were the possibility of that kind of result tampering i would indicate as such. for instance, the information regarding norwegianboyee at the start of today is indeed true

doesnt this imply that the cop is miller-proof or that there are no millers in the game? or am i missing something?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Oh god this game is multi ball and I’m town.

is that a hard claim?

[Tayl0r Swift]

@schadd: Do you publically answer questions? If so if a Miller was publically copped however that happened would any modifiers such as miller or godfather come into effect? Or is this the “mod ordained” truth?

if there were the possibility of that kind of result tampering i would indicate as such. for instance, the information regarding norwegianboyee at the start of today is indeed true

doesnt this imply that the cop is miller-proof or that there are no millers in the game? or am i missing something?

why have millers and a miller-proof cop? unless there are multiple cops i guess? like alignment and faction variants

well this one is clearly a variant cop. and theres a tracker, so maybe its a very cop-heavy setup.

[Tayl0r Swift]

yeah im not sure where the titus wagon is coming from. i think titus likes scumreading me. i dont think its that AI? definitely need to see those notes before scumbinning.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i think maybe BM was hardclaiming excited there.

[Tayl0r Swift]

so the additions dont necessarily share your alignment do they? if they did that would be wildly OP.

[Tayl0r Swift]

But our conclusion is that we're all town aligned and the setup is designed to have us turn on each other.

so now you arent mod confirmed?

also i thought superbowl was in the hood. am i remembering wrong?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Why would you turn on each other if you’re all town aligned confirmed to each other?

this. something does not add up here.

[Tayl0r Swift]

what are the odds A50 is a cult leader?

[Tayl0r Swift]

i see that titus has changed "pissed off" so it now means "skeptical"

[Tayl0r Swift]

I am in a neighborhood with mastina, Nero Cain, and Almost50. Almost50 was neighborized last night by me. He can confirm.

I confirm, although I would have rathered you talked to me in there and let me handle this in a more subtle way (not the confirming but the reasoning and membership of the hood)

Sorry but I didn't want to look like I was stalling. I am not subtle. I bet Nero and mastina are upset too but it is what is it.

why should you care how you look?

[Tayl0r Swift]

im ok with a bell wagon while we wait for A50 to figure out the neighborhood situation. I'll say that im pretty confident in A50 being town, so that prolly makes titus' side scum.

[Tayl0r Swift]

But our conclusion is that we're all town aligned and the setup is designed to have us turn on each other.

so now you arent mod confirmed?

also i thought superbowl was in the hood. am i remembering wrong?

Taylor, hon.. get a peice of paper.. draw two intersecting circles.. put ny name in the intersected area.. now put superbowl and "someone" in the right circle (outside the intersected area), and put Titus, mastina & Nero in the OTHER circle. That should make it a whole lot easier for you not to get confused.

P.S. That "someone" is likely to out later today. but certainly shouldn't do it NOW.

oh this implies that there are two PTs then?

[Tayl0r Swift]

does anyone else feel like an ascetic claim is really out of place here?

[Tayl0r Swift]

pretty sure jjh claimed ascetic yesterday.

[Tayl0r Swift]

how likely is ascetic SK? if theres a vig, should the vig claim?

[Tayl0r Swift]

so schadd is actually aligned with the cult and titus is cult leader?

[Tayl0r Swift]

hi mathblade, nice to meet you. im taylor swift.

[Tayl0r Swift]

If you're going to challenge my VCA as poor, challenge its reasoning. I have no problem being critiqued but calling it poor because you don't like the results is a classic scum move.

its clearly very poor because it has me as scum!

[Tayl0r Swift]

Mathblade’s been townie too. They can join the town block

I hate town blocks in practice as re-evaluation is rare. I do consider you a top tier town read for what it’s worth.

Eh, I like town blocking because Re-Evaluation is a strength of mine.

sometimes :T)

[Tayl0r Swift]

what are the odds A50 is a cult leader?

0%

yeah with a 10 in front

[Tayl0r Swift]

What makes you think 3P is not likely when we have a 3P scumteam???? None of us are masons. We use masons because it is an easy turn of phrase that has now because confusing. We are 3P with town’s wincon. Titus I can’t speak for but I highly doubt they are masons

is this a slip or am i crazy?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Actually if we all claim then I'll be able to know the setup so I think we should all claim

You heard it hear, folks.

They want it, so I’ll push it.

Mass claim time. Day 2 mass claim always the best.

hell no. for reasons i cannot discuss.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Have a midterm so officially peacing until tomorrow afternoon. Don't do anything too crazy while I'm gone *queue my quickelim*

VOTE: superbowl

[Tayl0r Swift]

A50 can you win if all the townies die?

[Tayl0r Swift]

@Swift: Stop being silly, girl.

i dont think i can but i certainly dont want to

[Tayl0r Swift]

A50 can you win if all the townies die?

Considering I myself am Town, the answer is definitely not.

But if you mean the players that have "You are TOWN" in green in their PMs then yes, and if I do they also do.

it seems like if all townies die then 3p aligned with town lose right? this seems off.

[Tayl0r Swift]

what are the odds A50 is a cult leader?

what are the odds that you are scum?

100%


but without the 10.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Yeah, but you were mocking a mock post, so it just made you come off like you weren’t mocking to them

so youre saying your massclaim suggestion was sarcastic?

[Tayl0r Swift]

if you were scum in multiball with a neighborize ability (but maybe no factional kill), and you found out there was another group the same size as you claiming not to be a part of the town, would you neighborize them to investigate and see if you were both scum?

[Tayl0r Swift]

i think the SS wagon (other than the scumslip) is about as good as the gamma wagon yesterday. that is to say, i think its not good. and how often do scumslips actually come from scum?

[Tayl0r Swift]

i think the SS wagon (other than the scumslip) is about as good as the gamma wagon yesterday. that is to say, i think its not good. and how often do scumslips actually come from scum?

Can you clarify this? I read it multple times and it sounds like you're implying the Gamma wagon wasn't good.

it hit scum (probably?). in that sense it was good. but the wagon itself i thought was bad at the time. i never understood why it was so quick to form, why there were no counterwagons, except on BH who was even townier, or what the reasons for the wagon were to begin with.

[Tayl0r Swift]

in a shocking development, the 3p wants us to not look at the 3p.

[Tayl0r Swift]

in a shocking development, the 3p wants us to not look at the 3p.

fmpov its no different than town being calling scum and saying that you shouldn't lynch me b/c its a mislynch.

but arent saying "dont lunch me im town" youre saying "dont lunch me only scum would lunch people like me who arent town"

[Tayl0r Swift]

titus and mathblade, we get that you are siblings engaged in a rivalry and you always scumread each other and youre both very proud of your VCA, but i think its starting to bog the game down. can we look at whos scum rather than try to figure out whos better at finding scum? lets lunch some scum and you can have this contest in postgame.

[Tayl0r Swift]

mathblade has given some scumreads and then you kept going.

[Tayl0r Swift]

VOTE: taylor swift

UR MUSIC SUXS!

VOTE: nero cain

UR MUSIC SUXS!

[Tayl0r Swift]

chill!

[Tayl0r Swift]

plus but why would you claim like that? now on future night scum simply know to say that they didnt get a visit even if they did, right? you turned yourself from sorta a cop to a 1-shot cop.

[Tayl0r Swift]

im pretty sure {April MM} contains >1 scum

so you think it contains 2 scum? or do you think maybe theres 3 scum in that pair?

[Tayl0r Swift]

my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.

they did reveal it day 1 didnt they? at least one of the groups did

[Tayl0r Swift]

my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.

Almost50 did. At least we got a clear from it.

uh who is clear? shelly is still only clear based on plusjoy's claim and theres no reason to think plusjoy's claim should be believed. plusjoy just made himself a target without actually creating any cops. and between 6 masons and a cop inventor and a tracker and a public cop its starting to look like a LOT of town power. something stinks.

[Tayl0r Swift]

im town

That's not a flaw. If you're town, then any statement "If shelly is scum, then X" is true by default.

if shelly is scum then the moon is made of blue cheese

[Tayl0r Swift]

if she's scum, she knows there's either a loyal or a disloyal modifier. since she must have received something, and she knows that plusjoyed isn't aligned with her, she would say she didn't receive anything

there's a flaw
if its scum!me + loyal mod I would not have gotten anything

yeah but as scum you know to claim the opposite of the truth, probably. at worst its 50-50

[Tayl0r Swift]

meanwhile, while you all argue Nero is vote parked on scum.

Why is Taylor scum? I want her to be scum but my scumhunting is leading me a different way.

i want taylor to be scum too!!

[Tayl0r Swift]

so i had to skim the last 15 pages because i dont have time rn. but i saw A50s post at me: i mostly agree, its fine, i accept you for now, but you can see why its a tough pill to swallow for us.

VOTE: april

and if i missed anything directed at me, pls let me know. ill be around later to engage properly.

@schadd, could we get a VC pls?

[Tayl0r Swift]

what is the BTS army?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Let me put it as simple as this: We are NOT "Army". Society are NOT "Army".

I am part of the BTS army

[Tayl0r Swift]

i dont like that you left the dead people as townreads. i get that its just a stylistic choice, but eh.
i generally have very little faith in your VCA, but i have somewhat more faith in your reads in general. i dont see why DS and MM are so high in your readlist. i saw what you said about DS, but again, i dont like VCA particularly. im unconvinced in its efficacy. i would guess theres at least one, probably two scum in your "above null" group. particularly SS and TGP, although bell has been a bit lurky this game i think. i dont think math is scum aorn, but could be wrong. ddl just scumclaimed, and it seemed like genuine surrender. if we think there isnt a serial killer then jjh is probably town. shelly im not sure about but i dont understand the contingency on april's flip. i havent really sorted shelly yet, ill need more content there. the claim stuff was interesting, but its only mildly town-indicative, and only if plus is confirmed. i could buy pickaxe as scum for sure, because although most posts seem pretty townie, a few have pinged me. i dont think chemist is scum, but i need to see more content. i dont know how to read april. but my vote is there because apparently shes confirmed scum mechanically per mastina.

overall i think the "above null" category in your readlist is the scummiest people to me. i do really appreciate still being in my own category though <3

[Tayl0r Swift]

oof thats a long block of words. sorry!

[Tayl0r Swift]

Presumably you're asking "what percentage of alleged scumslips are real scumslips", which I would estimate at around 4%.

I'd say 4.16375% is more like it.

i mean youre rounding, but close enough.

[Tayl0r Swift]

ddl just scumclaimed, and it seemed like genuine surrender

no

ok i didnt realize that kpop was a thing

[Tayl0r Swift]

i said this about math: " i dont think math is scum aorn, but could be wrong."

the play feels town from math. im fairly confident. but you obviously know math a lot better than i do.

[Tayl0r Swift]

this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.

I'm pretty sure I did, and so did sb.

wait youre not town A50?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Btw did you ever tell us your wincon?

i note that superb owl is ignoring the question

[Tayl0r Swift]

People just can’t comprehend my higher level of play and thinking. I gotta stop thinking they can.

VOTE: April

Goodbye.

the "self-hammer" but not-really-self-hammer-im-at-L-2-but-im-gonna-say-im-town-anyway thing isnt very convincing if im honest

[Tayl0r Swift]

oh that didnt age well

[Tayl0r Swift]

i was so confused to see the flashwagon on norway. but then i went and read the daystart message. VOTE: norwee
HURT: ddl

[Tayl0r Swift]

ok im now 40 pages behind and dont see myself spending all day reading those pages. can someone give me the highlights? have we caught scum yet?

[Tayl0r Swift]

yesterday i was 40 pages behind and said id start reading from there. but then my motherboard died and now im another 50 pages behind. so im going to just read from here. sorry.

[Tayl0r Swift]

yesterday i was 40 pages behind and said id start reading from there. but then my motherboard died and now im another 50 pages behind. so im going to just read from here. sorry.

Claim. Now. You’re on E-1 from A50. Anything and everything. Right now.

uh really?

[Tayl0r Swift]

ok well hmmm. im VT. im not sure why A50 suspects me, beyond being in PoE.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Alright. That makes me feel a lot better about this. Titus' hood notwithstanding, I

really

don't like MM/SB's hood (I don't remember their third). While they may not be "scum", I don't think that they are town-aligned with their wincon at all. There are 2 of the 3 members who are super scummy.

PEdit: Hmm, with A50? Well, if they're not the "scum faction", I don't feel bad about thinking that they're a non-town aligned King (although is that an innate part of their role or did they get it from the peanut gallery?

HOW DUDE? HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW BASIC MECHANICAL INFO AT THIS STAGEEEEEEEEE

WHAT IS YOUR WIN CON

[Tayl0r Swift]

Taylor.
Why can't I read you or the Bulge.

because you take my posts seriously

[Tayl0r Swift]

why was a vt claim "ewwww", math?

It’s how she said it.

I actually fully agree with Mathblade on this--
There is nothing wrong with Tayl0r Swift claiming VT.

The way she did so, however, looks incredibly like scum.

eh claiming is awkward and forced and so i sound awkward and forced. i become very self-aware when claiming and panic a little, even when theres no reason to.

[Tayl0r Swift]

He said bad day.
Leave him be, we all have bad days.
We can question him tmrw.

is this me youre talking to? you can question me now. im here.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Call me crazy (because this isn't remotely for what they've done), but I actually read them as null!town here. What Gamma said doesn't sound like a scum talking about another of their scum members, so I'll cautiously put TSwizzle in that bin. Maybe I'll look at the rest of their posts, but I might not. Who knows.

this is absolutely not a good reason to townread me.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Call me crazy (because this isn't remotely for what they've done), but I actually read them as null!town here. What Gamma said doesn't sound like a scum talking about another of their scum members, so I'll cautiously put TSwizzle in that bin. Maybe I'll look at the rest of their posts, but I might not. Who knows.

this is absolutely not a good reason to townread me.

Too bad. I've not made nearly enough bad decisions lately.

this is a boring bad decision. there are way more fun bad decisions to make. scumreading me is fun anyway, you should try it.

[Tayl0r Swift]

apparently skipping 90 pages is not a good way to stay engaged. someone come scumread me and push me pls

[Tayl0r Swift]

yeah but it doesnt help me engage unless you actually push me. call me out. quiz me on stuff.

[Tayl0r Swift]

yeah but it doesnt help me engage unless you actually push me. call me out. quiz me on stuff.

How scummy are you from 10 to 10?

probably an 18

[Tayl0r Swift]

yeah but it doesnt help me engage unless you actually push me. call me out. quiz me on stuff.

What do you think about the Night Kills so far?

odd that scum isnt shooting in the 3ps that seem to have wayyyy too much power. also dont understand the Ban Hydras kill. that slot was widely scumread so its probably a vig, although the vig should have just listened when i said the slot was obvtown. theres also too much town power for town to have any protectives so the fact that there was only one death last night is interesting. last nights kill again proves that there are no protectives because it was kinda obvious.

[Tayl0r Swift]

@TaylorSwift
Top three town reads
Top three scum reads
Ignore 3Ps
Go!

arent you the one who keeps saying we shouldnt be ignoring the 3ps?

shellyc samantha97
Chemist1422 Christøpher
Bell
MathBlade Vecna
Morning Mage (Morning Tweet + Battle Mage)
Tayl0r Swift
jjh927
Pickaxe Pete
DiamondSentinel
Something_Smart EchoVision
DrDolittle
TheGoldenParadox

afaik this is the list of people who are alive and not 3p (i also removed norwee who is conftown?) wait is norwee conftown? norwee is conftown right but why?

town: something smart, mathblade, bell
scum: ddl, DS, pickaxe

[Tayl0r Swift]

SS had an interaction with me early on that felt genuine in a way that i thought it would only ever come from town even though the things being said were NAI.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i do and will continue to shitpost. but theres plenty of genuine content coming from me too (see the posts you are responding to)

[Tayl0r Swift]

i couldnt find it in my iso tbh. but ss is just kinda a soulread beyond that one interaction.

[Tayl0r Swift]

no lol

[Tayl0r Swift]

Taylor.
Why can't I read you or the Bulge.

because you take my posts seriously

You were jokey in Werewolf, but you were also paying attention and trying to solve. I don't see much solving from you in this game, and the ONLY reason I had you in my TRs you shot down with your claim. (I somehow thought you hinted being Vigilante at some point)

yeah and then i accidentally got myself into 11 games and now im just trying to survive!!

[Tayl0r Swift]

but anyway a50 before the 90 pages i didnt read i was pretty active for a bit - i think you can find town!me in those pages

[Tayl0r Swift]

How do you even say that.
"un-eliminate-able"?

i think when youre making up words you can make up whatever word youd like. lunchproof works though

[Tayl0r Swift]

I want to give the "other" 3P group a good chance to win too, so THAT is why I am considering leaving ddl alive to be D4's elimination.

uhhh what? what wincons are these exactly?

[Tayl0r Swift]

hmmm i dont like being blatantly lied to about 3ps wincons, but at the same time, it seems like both 3ps know each other's wincons and both are still saying town aligned so probably hiding the info from scum rather than town.

as for the other bit: without knowing the wincons its hard to suggest that we dont just shoot scum. that said if you do decide to leave DDL for tomorrow, then probably shoot chemist because the claim doesnt add up.

pedit: what exactly is the wincon and what happens if you arent on every scum elimination?

[Tayl0r Swift]

hmmm i dont like being blatantly lied to about 3ps wincons, but at the same time, it seems like both 3ps know each other's wincons and both are still saying town aligned so probably hiding the info from scum rather than town.

as for the other bit: without knowing the wincons its hard to suggest that we dont just shoot scum. that said if you do decide to leave DDL for tomorrow, then probably shoot chemist because the claim doesnt add up.

pedit: what exactly is the wincon and what happens if you arent on every scum elimination?

[Tayl0r Swift]

yes i now see that ddl is dead. the perils of posting as you catch up rather than after youve read everything. well i think this was the correct move.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Oh, I should have kept reading lol.

Weird to ask for the input of three people and then decide before hearing from any of them.

sb kind of intimidated me.

why was that discussion in this thread rather than in your PT?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Scum equity, lamist and rule of 3 are the 3 things I do not like.

This post is LAMIST and i think Bell has high scum equity right now.

Can I get one more piece of analysis here? 2 just isnt enough...

Yeah it’s post 6243. And according to rule of 3, (the number 3 is in that post count) and the fact that they bring up 3 points showcases that they are definitely definitely mafioso.

illuminati confirmed?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Has scum TMI’d that DDL will flip scum yet?

fuck im so upset that they caught ddl today. what are we gonna do now guys?

[Tayl0r Swift]

oops, wrong thread

[Tayl0r Swift]

i know everything

[Tayl0r Swift]

for example, A50's avatar isnt a picture of A50 irl

[Tayl0r Swift]

for example, A50's avatar isnt a picture of A50 irl

I always thought he was a monkey.
Are you telling me he's actually an gorilla?

i dont want to dox him.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i mean masons will have a majority tomorrow, so it might already be too late.

wait youre saying we should kill in the masons? arent you a mason?