Bad Idea III Scum PT

[esuriospiritus]

well fuck

[esuriospiritus]

so, no idea who's the godfather, but I asked shea in my confirmation PM. Maybe we pick amongst ourselves?

Reading is hard; it's in the first post of this PT lol

[esuriospiritus]

also, judging from the text of the scum PMs, I guess it's not going to be public knowledge how long each person has before they can use a daykill. Otherwise it would be like... "okay, esurio and toogeloo each killed once, so why do they both have a 48 hour cooldown? HMMMM."

pedit: oh so I'm just

doubly

bad at reading, that's fair

[esuriospiritus]

if that's directed at me I do not intend to publicly keep track of cool downs.

It was just kinda speculating out loud, but the clarification is appreciated. <3

Also, I'm gonna propose not-me for the godfather because 1) UT has played IRL mafia with me enough that I feel like he's probably gonna be on to me pretty quickly and 2) my intellectual baseline is that of a moderately sophisticated hamster (don't let the fancy multisyllabic words fool you).

Mostly that first one, but yeah.

[esuriospiritus]

That is a fair and reasonable alternative, yes. And I

would

really benefit from an inno investigation on me -- haven't played forum mafia in a while, but I remember that I don't perform well under suspicion like at all.

IDK. I can be the godfather if no one else wants to be, but if someone else wants it then, by all means, please take it.

[esuriospiritus]

It would be very in character for me as town to basically be like "I'm a dayvig but I'm going to be very hesitant about using my kill ability because I just want to get along with everyone and not make rash decisions based on my own probably shitty reads, uwu"

So that's probably gonna be my fakeclaim. But I don't necessarily mind if someone else here wants to get way more gambit-y.

[esuriospiritus]

1 more hour.

Who is around?

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Game thread is here for anyone needing to bookmark it: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=84640

[esuriospiritus]

I kinda want to try to post something on thread open that

isn't

a kill just to break the tradition set by the previous games, but I also feel like this would be sus so i'm not going to actually do that. But I want to.

[esuriospiritus]

Hmmmmmm.

[esuriospiritus]

rofl it's already locked

[esuriospiritus]

at least he didn't hit scum ig

[esuriospiritus]

This scum thread is gonna end up longer than the actual game thread, isn't it?

anyway who nightkill? ig we could always nightkill UT but also if you can get away with daykilling him without that being sus then we should probably do that and nightkill someone who's good at town but not a likely target by any of town-us. If that makes sense.

pedit: yeah he was prolly sittin there mashing f5 lol

[esuriospiritus]

^ all of that sounds fine by me.

[esuriospiritus]

Nightkill: the worst

feel free to change this, but I wanted to make sure we at least had something posted before the deadline

[esuriospiritus]

If we're not sure Peng is gonna daykill someone, I prefer a UT nightkill over a the worst nightkill (pls picture my inner townie sobbing uncontrollably as I advocate for brutally annihilating the one person I'd probably be sheeping under different circumstances)

But I have zero previous history with the worst, so keep in mind I have no context for how much of a threat he might be

[esuriospiritus]

yeah, I think you're right

[esuriospiritus]

Roughly 9 mins til the thread opens.

So... roughly 10 minutes until it closes again, lmao

[esuriospiritus]

Thoughts on Petapan for cop?

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For Reference...

4. D3f3nd3r
5. EchoVision
7. the worst
10. T-Bone
12. Micc
13. PrivateI
14. Zoraster
15. petapan
16. -hugs-
17. PokerFace

^ updated potential cop list

Removed brassherald due to claim of inno on Peng

[esuriospiritus]

Pokerface might be worth a nightkill later if we aren't sure who cops are; PF came out of the gate looking strong

[esuriospiritus]

Furthering toogeloo's point re: conserving dayvigs, town knows us goons can shoot the second a goon is killed who had previously made a dayvig. It's worth considering not shooting if it means we can keep them in the dark on scum role details for longer.

Also y'all know we have daytalk, right?

[esuriospiritus]

Micc is also almost certainly not cop for the same reason brassherald isn't

so

4. D3f3nd3r - brassherald
5. EchoVision - MurderCat
7. the worst - TBone
10. T-Bone -
13. PrivateI - Zoraster
14. Zoraster -
15. petapan - brassherald
16. -hugs- - TBone
17. PokerFace - TBone

2 cops in 9 players with 2 left to claim (and potentially out themselves as not-cop) = 22% chance to randomly hit a cop, 25% if the daykill is amongst one of these players.

not great, not terrible

[esuriospiritus]

Yeah, you and I were on the same train of thought there. It's totally WIFOM, which is why I didn't bring it up in my previous post, but it's worth noting all the same in case we find ourselves grasping at straws later, I think.

[esuriospiritus]

anyone play with tripod often? I don't think I ever did despite how long we both been on the site

[esuriospiritus]

lolz

[esuriospiritus]

so zor never posted, and tbone posted quite a bit but never hypocopped. So we don't have answers from either of those two.

my initial kneejerk reaction is that we should shoot tbone or whoever it was that suspected toogeloo (i forget at the moment).

But I'll do a reread and come back at some point later today/early tomorrow with more thorough thoughts and notes.

[esuriospiritus]

I did a quick look through the ISOs of everyone in the potential cop pool and honestly I think there's a good chance D3f is one.

[esuriospiritus]

Nightkill: D3fender

as always, feel free to change

[esuriospiritus]

PrivateI
D3F3ND3R
TBone
the worst

Those are my suggestions for night kill.

Yeah, I agree with this list

[esuriospiritus]

I'm wondering if that's worth giving them the setup info that we can daykill.

Also heads up I probably won't be around much today. I've got a big programming assignment due in 16.5 hours and I've barely even started on it because I'm an unmedicated ADHD disaster. Please send help. Or Concerta. I miss having more than 3 working brain cells

[esuriospiritus]

inno penguinpower

throw another log onto the 'not a cop' fire, let's be glad none of these people are investigating peng for real

5. EchoVision - MurderCat
7. the worst - TBone
10. T-Bone -
13. PrivateI - Zoraster
14. Zoraster -
16. -hugs- - TBone
17. PokerFace - TBone

2 cops in this group of 7, and my paranoid ass is suddenly certain one of them is zoraster and the lurking was a strategic play to get some cop scans in

I guess we'll find out

[esuriospiritus]

nominating echovision for honorary 5th scum

[esuriospiritus]

Nightkill:

PrivateI

Nightkill: PrivateI

just in case the whole line needs to be bolded

[esuriospiritus]

yes please kill it with fire

I can't because I hypo inno'd hugs day 1

[esuriospiritus]

what reasoning are you going to give? or is that something you'll just figure out later?

[esuriospiritus]

yeh that works, scum trying to control the narrative, etc

[esuriospiritus]

looks like you're wanting to commit to micc-scum, toog-town "reads"? if that's the intent, yeah, go for it

[esuriospiritus]

ah ok gotcha

[esuriospiritus]

that's fair. I think I was expecting the game to be done already. XD

[esuriospiritus]

GOT EM LOL

[esuriospiritus]

so it looks like we shoot in {T-Bone, Pokerface, Zoraster} tonight. Which means the best kill is probably T-Bone?

[esuriospiritus]

wow, RIP

I was planning on making a post along the lines of "hey, shooting from the hip is clearly not working out for us so maybe we should actually talk" and then trying to control the narrative

but once again petapan is faster than me, womp womp

anyway, who kill? I guess probably pokerface since zor has still only had one post all game and pf is much more engaged?

[esuriospiritus]

Yeah, I'm not sure how we could have done better than we did, and it sucks that we'll probably lose anyway considering how hard town was cannibalizing themselves. Oh well.

At this point, I'm gonna keep lurking out unless I have the opportunity to shoot someone.

[esuriospiritus]

We don't win at parity. We win when all town are dead. That makes this... even harder.

[esuriospiritus]

I'm glad I rolled scum with someone smart

this tbh

idk, do whatever. but I feel like it could maybe backfire to straight up claim scum because can't they beat us to a kill by a few minutes if we have an identical cooldown length? like we come in to shoot at 48hours+3mins, but echo beat us by shooting at 48hours and 1min. or maybe I'm misunderstanding toog's big brain posts cuz I just finished a bunch of homework and have half a brain cell right now.

[esuriospiritus]

So echo and peta both currently have a 24 hour cooldown and mic has 0, is that correct?

[esuriospiritus]

they don't really have reason to believe us since they have no idea how our role actually works. I mean, they could just think it's a gambit. And quoting or paraphrasing role pm is dangerous territory, so...

if it works, cool, but I'll be surprised if town actually goes for it

[esuriospiritus]

Dang, we really got there, huh? gg

[esuriospiritus]

You know, it's not too late to get the scum pt longer than the main game thread...

[esuriospiritus]

Lol that's so rude. But also yeah it should be mathematically obvious at this point even without town knowing how our role works.

[esuriospiritus]

PS: Happy Halloween!

[esuriospiritus]

We don't get trick or treaters in my neighborhood. But so far I've played Dead by Daylight and my roomies and I just watched Hocus Pocus. Looks like we're probably watching Sleepy Hollow next.

[esuriospiritus]

AMOK AMOK AMOK AMOK AMOK.

[esuriospiritus]

yeah, but I thought it was too obvious

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using Akbar, I mean