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Post Post #329 (isolation #0) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:00 am

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In post 92, Infinity 324 wrote:I'm with skitter on this, I think multitasking is pretty much optimal no matter what.

PEdit: hi!
Disagree I think they one they chose is better
In post 310, davesaz wrote:Yeah that looks weird enough to vote and see what happens.
VOTE: JacksonVirgo
Yeah... no, I think JacksonVirgo is just being a derp
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Post Post #330 (isolation #1) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:03 am

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Also voting out Lilith who is top of the draft is not a good move, why are people starting there?

VOTE: skitter30

Because I don't like her vote and she can play like this as scum
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Post Post #334 (isolation #2) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:25 am

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What did you think execute from the top down meant?
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Post Post #336 (isolation #3) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:33 am

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Yes
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Post Post #349 (isolation #4) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:55 am

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In post 340, skitter30 wrote:I mean i wasnt until people called me out on it ...
Either way I'm pretty sure scum!her knows that i'd prioritize sorting her, and the mere fact that i'm voting her should have alerted her to the fact if she didnt
So then you don't think it will work, or you don't think it matters?
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Post Post #353 (isolation #5) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:04 am

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Does it matter that Lilith knows you are voting for pressure?
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Post Post #445 (isolation #6) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:59 pm

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In post 443, Infinity 324 wrote:It's 2 minutes, maybe I'm reading too much into this?
You're definitely reading too much into it
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Post Post #446 (isolation #7) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:01 pm

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In post 444, davesaz wrote:In the last 4 pages, 1 of which appeared while I was reading, I think TGP looks like scum.
VOTE: TGP
Talk about it a little bit?
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Post Post #613 (isolation #8) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:05 am

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In post 594, JacksonVirgo wrote:Is there a world where all the PRs are active btw? Because why the hell would mafia choose informed in that case rather than multitasking. Is it possible that mafia tried grouping or something to benefit from the new mechanics here.

I'm gonna take some time to do some iioa here because we're not just dealing with pyp. Give me a sec
Seriously? Informed lets mafia fakeclaim whatever didn't get chosen
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Post Post #614 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:07 am

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In post 576, Hoopla wrote:
dunnstral
- played a game as scum against him recently, and he was a dominant voice on D1 that seemed quite obviously town. granted, i had confirmed info that game which can sometimes trick you into thinking someone is more town than they actually are, but i haven't seen similar town energy from him yet.
I seem to recall somebody replacing out of that game because they found me annoying
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Post Post #619 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:11 am

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In post 616, JacksonVirgo wrote:What benefit does mafia fake-claiming a role that isn't here do?
Avoid their own elim
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Post Post #625 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:33 am

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I like this wagon
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Post Post #629 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:39 am

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Sorry I meant to say I DON'T like this wagon
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Post Post #918 (isolation #13) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:19 pm

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In post 779, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 778, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 777, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 775, Infinity 324 wrote:The way I see it, first they said they did it for the memes, then they said they did it for the memes and because they wanted to guarantee a unique number. How is that lying?
They lied via omission.
Explain the scum motivation here, and explain why it’s sooo unlikely for a townie to not say their entire draft strategy.
Read the context, they were being called sus for choosing a number like that and instead of actually defending themselves they went via the "haha lul" approach and when I called them out on it they added another response to cater to what I said. Then their posts completely changed with tone before my suspicions being called trash by everyone else and then they went back to their general attitude but except the tone was still trash for a bit.

Picking a large unique number reliably lands you near the middle of the draft

So it's a strategy, and scum can employ it, but it's not inherently scummy
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Post Post #919 (isolation #14) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:20 pm

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It's also not more suspicious than something like 13 which is unlikely to double up and ends up at about the same place
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Post Post #920 (isolation #15) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:29 pm

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A lot of people just hopped off of Lilith. From l-1 to l-5
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Post Post #922 (isolation #16) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:32 pm

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VOTE: Hoopla
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Post Post #938 (isolation #17) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:06 pm

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In post 683, Hoopla wrote:
In post 330, Dunnstral wrote:Also voting out Lilith who is top of the draft is not a good move, why are people starting there?

VOTE: skitter30

Because I don't like her vote and she can play like this as scum
is there a functional difference between voting out top of the draft vs. third? third is highly likely to be a PR too.

what don't you like about her vote, as opposed to every other lilith voter?
I'm not advocating voting out third of draft either. Theoretically. I didn't check Skitter's position.

I don't like the way skitter is pushing this, the other voters were rvs at the time
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Post Post #939 (isolation #18) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:10 pm

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Pine hasn't done anything but I'm not willing to vote just based off of that reason until day 2

As for what I make of the Lilith wagon falling off: It looks like it fell apart when Skitter moved off of it
In post 931, Hoopla wrote:if you ask a cop if they're a cop, legally they have to tell you.
No they don't
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Post Post #1305 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:25 pm

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I guess an unpopular opinion is that I liked DBG's catchup post with the links, but not enough to go to bat for her over this elim
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Post Post #1542 (isolation #20) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:44 am

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Manlque was fairly obviously blocked, stopping the kill don't out town pr, elim through claim:

VOTE: Menalque
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Post Post #1543 (isolation #21) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:45 am

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Hoopla and Skitter are playing this weird
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Post Post #1560 (isolation #22) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:54 am

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In post 1555, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1542, Dunnstral wrote:Manlque was fairly obviously blocked, stopping the kill don't out town pr, elim through claim:

VOTE: Menalque
Wut

And what do u mean about me?
The way you're pivoting off of him and he's adding you into his scum group feels fabricated. The way Hoopla suddenly swerved to Menalque looks like a bus where they realized Mena was likely going down today
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Post Post #1563 (isolation #23) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:55 am

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It's not if you're scum who tried to perform the kill but failed and then a wagon suddenly started forming on you
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Post Post #1566 (isolation #24) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:59 am

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In post 1564, Uncrowned wrote:Could you maybe explain your thought process on why you went from Dunn to DGB at least?
I have a theory: DGB and Menalque's slot had both picked the number 5, so DGB was a pretty good elim for scum
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Post Post #1574 (isolation #25) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:18 am

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In post 1572, Menalque wrote:
In post 1570, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1567, Menalque wrote:dunn is suggesting I'm scum who got blocked/maybe trying to soft a block on me in such a way that he can claim he was just speculating about it but not actually saying it if someone calls him on it tomorrow
Dude if you saw they were possibly sifting why would you out it unless you’re thinking their scum for it
scum will have already noticed what was a very blatant semi-soft from dunn, he wasn't being subtle
If you believe this, why do you think I'm scummy today?
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Post Post #1618 (isolation #26) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:15 pm

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:roll:
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #27) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:18 pm

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In post 1624, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1622, Hoopla wrote:it's probably 50/50 betweeen the JK or doc/RB.
In a vacuum, wouldn't it be 67% JK, 33% doc/RB? Or more precisely, 33% Menalque was targeted, 33% Menalque attempted to kill, 33% doc/RB stopped the kill.
Very unlikely that a town player picks roleblocker over cop
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Post Post #1632 (isolation #28) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:21 pm

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In post 1631, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1629, Dunnstral wrote:Very unlikely that a town player picks roleblocker over cop
Roleblocker is paired with doctor, not cop.
Fair enough
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Post Post #1640 (isolation #29) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:33 pm

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In post 1585, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 1527, Uncrowned wrote:@Mena

Both you and TGP were both "set" on Infinity and then dropped that idea for a wagon that neither of you seemed invested in at all. in fact, TGP even went as far as to say that they're "not on board with eliminating her (DGB) under any circumstances" on D1 and that they "doesn't buy the wagon" but yet decided to drop that whole mentality because she... made a claim? A claim that wasn't countered? A claim that would've been real dumb to fake considering the setup?

It just makes no sense to me.

You also behaved similarly
pgo is a negative utility role which easily explains an extra nightkill on a pr
so if lillith and someone else died n1, it could have easily been explained away as a pgo shot when it was actually a scumvig shot
basically dgb could have been scum vig which would have been great, and if not, losing a pgo isn't too bad and confirms the lack of scum 1-shot vig
Didn't she claim pgo? Why would people still target her?
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Post Post #1803 (isolation #30) » Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:30 am

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In post 1750, Infinity 324 wrote:The soft was pretty obvious, what I'm wondering is how he knew it was a JK/rb. I thought it was cop tbh
Can you first point to the obvious soft
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Post Post #2111 (isolation #31) » Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:07 pm

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stop letting skitter and mena run the show and elim him already, it's obvious that we need to do so
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Post Post #2112 (isolation #32) » Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:10 pm

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And Infinity fishing to go wherever else all day is a bad look
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Post Post #2255 (isolation #33) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:40 am

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get bad man
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Post Post #2279 (isolation #34) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:25 pm

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In post 2258, lilith2013 wrote:I don't know, I feel like he's reasonably towny in his interactions with skitter (reasonably because I haven't played with scum!mena but I imagine he's a pretty competent player who knows what he's supposed to sound like as town) and I think it's less unlikely that I didn't actually block the kill than I originally thought
Don't get gaslit

TGP vote doesn't really make sense

davesaz is sidelining all of this hard
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Post Post #2340 (isolation #35) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:39 pm

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In post 2321, skitter30 wrote:What information are we keeping from scum if they dont claim it
More importantly, why are we hammering town instead of the guy who tried to make the kill?
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Post Post #2341 (isolation #36) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:39 pm

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In post 2339, TheGoldenParadox wrote:VOTE: dunn
Dumb to vote for me here
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Post Post #2357 (isolation #37) » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:07 am

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In post 2342, Infinity 324 wrote:Dunn, what did you think of ? Who's scum other than mena?
I'm not reading walls of text or really considering other possibilities until Mena is elim'd
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Post Post #2359 (isolation #38) » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:07 am

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VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

Don't vote park me
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Post Post #2360 (isolation #39) » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:08 am

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In post 2358, petapan wrote:
In post 2355, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2354, petapan wrote:no you're not lmfao
You know what, fuck you.
if you are going to keep tunneling me with an extremely bad case to the total exclusion of everything else in the game you are scum or dead worthless town and in either case i want you dead so you get off my fucking nuts
You need to step back and chill out
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Post Post #2368 (isolation #40) » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:15 am

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hoopla
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Post Post #2379 (isolation #41) » Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:52 am

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In post 2376, TheGoldenParadox wrote:this is green

powerlim dunn tomorrow
You're the one who came at me.
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Post Post #2456 (isolation #42) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:02 pm

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VOTE: Menalque
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Post Post #2458 (isolation #43) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:28 pm

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Yeah lilith is town and also I was neighborized by somebody last night so can confirm that role is in the game
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Post Post #2459 (isolation #44) » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:34 pm

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Also if I were scum this high in the draft town wouldn't have both killing power roles
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Post Post #2466 (isolation #45) » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:23 am

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In post 2460, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2458, Dunnstral wrote:Yeah lilith is town and also I was neighborized by somebody last night so can confirm that role is in the game
y is lilith town?
Towny role choice

Claimed after no kill <- very likely town
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Post Post #2467 (isolation #46) » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:24 am

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Hoopla is onto something

Lilith is alive because scum doesn't have control of the doctor
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Post Post #2707 (isolation #47) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:50 pm

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I'm not claiming, hammer me.

VOTE: Hoopla
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Post Post #2710 (isolation #48) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:53 pm

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Alright:

I'm a vanilla townie, I tried to grab the tracker/jailkeeper slot, and that's why I thought Lilith was town from the start/knew mena was blocked
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Post Post #2718 (isolation #49) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:55 pm

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In post 2715, Something_Smart wrote:Was "I'm not claiming" just a blatant lie, or did you change your mind after reading the two posts following it?
yeah
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Post Post #2749 (isolation #50) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:17 pm

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Where did I soft a role?
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Post Post #2751 (isolation #51) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:41 pm

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because everyone can see the draft and people near the top can get roleblocked/killed by mafia

And I personally believe that while jailkeeper is typically stronger than tracker, in this specific open setup, tracker is a plenty powerful role that is kind of unexpected and can give strong results

And it also removes one of the roleblockers by taking that
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Post Post #2819 (isolation #52) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:30 pm

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cop checks skitter over lilith
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Post Post #2872 (isolation #53) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:02 pm

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lilith is town, don't elim there.
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