Death Curse

[Toogeloo]

When I first read my role pm, I thought it was a mod slip lol.

i think town are much more likely to read the setup tbh

You put way too much faith in town. I think the opposite actually. Town are more likely to be complacent while scum are more likely to read rules so they can put IIoA into their posts and scheme without hunting.

Vote: Pooky

Because it makes them happy. But I can get behind the Noora train. While I disagree with using the sign up thread or discord to scum hunt, it's still worth pushing.

[Toogeloo]

Heads up.

I don't play Friday Nights (family night) or all day on Sundays (device free day) due to family before mafia. Want to make sure that's known in advance.

[Toogeloo]

The plan seems fine on paper, but you have to also bear in mind that people who get scrolls know they are dead anyways, so they aren't going to be held accountable if they go rogue and want to be a hero and shoot an unpopular target.

[Toogeloo]

If I had my preference...
I think at least one scroll should be used to eliminate detriments to town's wincon via activity and/or VI status. Since the most kills scum can make per phase is 2 (with the day kill), but usually 1, they will already be working on getting rid of the town telling players, most likely those who are leading. I really don't want to get to like Day 5 and seeing the fate of the game in the hands of people who haven't really been present the first 3 days.

[Toogeloo]

THEY'RE AFRAID OF THE BBC.

I'm sorry... I totally misread this, but you should have seen my face the first time my eyes crossed it.

[Toogeloo]

Did I say i’m Glad i’m Not scum buddies with Norra yet.

Who are you scum buddies with then?

[Toogeloo]

Are you my 3rd scum buddy.

Question or Statement?

I have 14 buddies, but I don't know who they all are.

[Toogeloo]

My eyes...

[Toogeloo]

Vault dweller...scum?

That's pretty out there. What is it in their 4 posts that has you leaning scum?

[Toogeloo]

You distancing now, Swift?

Unvote;
Vote; Noraa

[Toogeloo]

I asked for expansion of reasoning for Vault dweller and never got it.

[Toogeloo]

What exactly pinged your gut? It was only 4 posts at the time, I'm curious.

[Toogeloo]

I skimmed through the last 20+ pages just looking for votes after looking at the last vote count Hectic posted. Doesn't seem much has changed, so am I free to assume that the last 20+ pages are mostly shit posting?

[Toogeloo]

I think the best way to get LLD to do something different is to just be done with Noraa so we can move on with our lives.

[Toogeloo]

As in, hammer the scroll already...

[Toogeloo]

No one's letting LLD do whatever the fuck she wants (though I personally don't care if she does whatever the fuck she wants).

You got caught saying something you probably should have not said. No one is going to let that go. It's a great place to start the game. There are no power roles in this game, so you aren't worth protecting by anyone, town or scum. Accept your fate, start working with us on who you'll pass the scroll to and why, so that that person can start formulating a plan that works with town's will as well.

[Toogeloo]

All you guys are doing is clogging up the thread. The vast majority of casual players are not going to read 30 pages a day. I didn't even read the last 20 pages. People... Will... Get... Bored.

There is literally no point to stalling this out since you are not getting out of the first 3 scroll passes, 100% guaranteed.

[Toogeloo]

I don't give a shit, pass the scroll to me. Position 2 is a great position if I'm going to go out.

[Toogeloo]

I said that Norra, me. LLD just reinforced it.

[Toogeloo]

Can we hammer this please, before it escalates outside of the friend zone?

[Toogeloo]

You're a detriment to town's win condition this game, Noraa. You're just too stubborn to realize it. There is 0% chance you live past flip 1. It's increasingly worse that talking to you is pointless because no one else exists outside of LLD to you.

[Toogeloo]

then give noraa the chance to do it by taking the pressure off of her and starting a wagon on someone else

if noraa is town this gives her the chance to contribute without feeling pressured to defend herself
if noraa is scum she is going to die today regardless

and it gives us the chance to get more interactions with a wagon on someone who is not already doomed

It's not going to happen. Getting a scroll is something most of are going to deal with at some point. No one likes to be first out, but someone has to be. Noraa has been posting non-stop for the last 24 hours almost, I'm certain there is things they've seen at this point to solidify some decent reads, whether it be sheep or wolves, that she could easily comment on. Instead they're being obtuse about the fact that there is no way they can survive past today, and instead just continue to give everyone the proverbial finger over the past near 30 pages.

[Toogeloo]

Honestly, holding this wagon hostage isn't Noraa's fault it's players like you Theta who won't help us move past the Noraa first Scroll. 30 pages of shit posting. And we'll have another 30 by tonight probably should Noraa not get hammered.

[Toogeloo]

Killing Noraa literally DOES NOT end the conversations we can have. It eliminates the distraction we currently have so that we can work with the information Noraa decides to provide us and work with the second scroll bearer moving forward into the third kill for the flip. I will 100% tell you I am not going back and looking through 30 pages for new content for something else to work with, and if I'm not, I guarantee you there are several others who won't either.

But I may as well be talking to myself.

[Toogeloo]

Um, bullshit?

You have 2 full days of solo solving if you really feel you need it because you, and only you, get to decide who to pass the scroll to.

[Toogeloo]

Non-scroll bearers can influence you and work with you, but if puzzle solving for your self is something that you must do, you have it.

[Toogeloo]

So, then, eat the scroll so you don't infect your flights of fancy into the better players mentalities, and just do what you're told with the scroll.

[Toogeloo]

Or if you're town, you could reign as Queen Noraa I for 2 days and make people pledge their innocence and stuff.

I love you.

[Toogeloo]

oh wait
we can just do that here and save noraa for the third slot

So you want Noraa Dead, you just want her dead in slot 3. Theta be scummin'. He's hoping for the T-T-S Scroll pass instead of the potential S-T-S pass is my guess.

[Toogeloo]

i personally think it would be quite funny to be reigned over by Queen Nora I if she were actually town.

I'm sure it would be akin to be reigned over by Henry VIII.

[Toogeloo]

Theta... you ever heard the term, "A Bird in the Hand is Worth Two in the Bush?"

[Toogeloo]

giving it to someone antitown is the same imo

I legit think I need to go to the doctor. I was drinking soda during reading this response, and now my nose feels like it's on fire.

[Toogeloo]

Lots of people who don't seem to know you very well LLD.

---

Sadly due to lacking the time
Until tomorrow I'm a mime

I feel like putting pressure here is wasted unless you want to wait 24 hours to see how he shakes.

---

Isis is being replaced.

Interesting...

[Toogeloo]

we want scum to have the third scroll more then the first scroll
because we want to limit the number of kills scum gets to make and that is how we do it

This is a fallacy.

We don't intentionally save scum for third and possibly kill two town to get to them. If we think we have scum, we try to get them first AND third. Second slot should in most cases be more likely town than scum.

Trying to play differently is wrong.

[Toogeloo]

2nd shot hits scum, they kill LLD and Noraa lives.

[Toogeloo]

If scum kill a town intentionally, it means they are scared of them,v which means a killed townie's venge shot is more powerful in the second slot than first or third.

[Toogeloo]

Jesus... So I've read

maaaaybe

20 pages of content in this game. I don't have the time to read this many pages every day. I'm guessing VaultDweller replaced for similar reasons.

Someone please catch me up.

[Toogeloo]

I'll see you all tomorrow.

[Toogeloo]

Who's the leading wagon?

[Toogeloo]

My problem with this game is that I followed it for the first 15 pages or so, then it blew up when I was offline. I skimmed through what I could, but after 45 pages we were still gungho for Noraa. The game seems most active while I'm sleeping, and I don't just sit here and read pages on pages of mafia in my free time. So now I pretty much have no idea on what the plan is.

[Toogeloo]

And apparently the game is not active when I am here.

[Toogeloo]

I'll keep my vote on Noraa, but I will vote Taylor if needed.

If there is no other plans, I'm not sure why this is being drug out.

[Toogeloo]

Honestly, consider my vote on anyone other than LLD or Pooky.

PEdit: Nope.

[Toogeloo]

Actually, I remember liking MurderCat too, so I probably wouldn't vote them either.

[Toogeloo]

Noraa, you have 168 posts. Why don't you point me to the posts you want me to read.

[Toogeloo]

And to be perfectly honest, even if I do read them, you won't change my mind that you are still the best person to eliminate today, and the other 2 are just additional information.

You've added too much of a question mark to be ignored at the beginning of the game. No amount of work you put in now will change that, and you need to be sorted.

[Toogeloo]

So you are using self meta to defend yourself? You know who I looked at first on your reads list? Me. As aggressive as I was to you, and you had nothing to say about me.

But I read your 4 posts, you didn't sway me I'm afraid.

[Toogeloo]

I read your 3 posts, and looked at me in your reads list.

[Toogeloo]

If it matters, I'll revisit your readlist after you die.

[Toogeloo]

WIFOM
WIFOM
WIFOM
WIFOM
WIFOM
WIFOM
WIFOM
WIFOM
WIFOM
WIFOM
WIFOM
WIFOM

[Toogeloo]

Your entire defense is to constantly talk about your own meta. You know that doesn't work, right?

[Toogeloo]

Can we flash wagon Lapsa?

[Toogeloo]

Did... Did I just perform a summon?

[Toogeloo]

Dude has one of (if not the) least amount of posts in game and hadn't posted in a day, and then responds to me?

[Toogeloo]

Why not...

Unvote;
Vote: Lapsa

[Toogeloo]

Have you read my scum games? I'm an idiot savant scum player. If I'm not lynched Day 1, I live to endgame, but I tend to always ask myself how I didn't get lynched Day 1.

I don't really have a style. I just post what feels right, town or scum, and stick my foot in my mouth more often than not.

[Toogeloo]

My wiki is an open book though. Feel free to peruse.

[Toogeloo]

can I get someone to explain a read on them?

What scum game have you read of mine that this is your read?
My sense of panda is that he is doing exactly what is be doing as scum, hence my nervousness

explain?

Setup talk, complaining about pages and using it as an excuse to be kind of lurky, going with the flow and finding easy votes, etc. Could also be town of course, just pointing it out.

[Toogeloo]

Ermmm...
My response got stuck in the quote.

What scum game of mine have you read that gives you this indication?

[Toogeloo]

My sense of panda is that

he is doing exactly what is be doing as scum,

hence my nervousness

My concern here is the "exactly" point.

[Toogeloo]

My original post has a typo, these are things I noticed you do that I would have done as scum

So... I do town read you, and that hasn't changed, but take this the right way please.

You know I'm not you, right?

[Toogeloo]

I'm not going to be around until Monday, and Deadline is looming.

Someone has 10 minutes to tell me where my vote is best served (not LLD, Pooky, or MC). Otherwise it's going back on Noraa until Monday.

[Toogeloo]

Unvote;
Vote: Noraa

See you all Monday.

[Toogeloo]

Unvote;
Vote: Toogeloo

I am strangely ok with this.

[Toogeloo]

If majority isn't reached scum get to pick, so we don't want to give them "two night kills."

[Toogeloo]

I'm coming to get you Noraaaaaaaaa.

[Toogeloo]

Boy is there going to be egg on your face, mate.

[Toogeloo]

I'd like to continue to endorse this lynch. It's much better than not meeting the deadline, which is like 24 hours from now or something. If we don't reach majority lynch, scum control the first Scroll.

[Toogeloo]

I mean I'm obviously not on ANYONE's town list. In my skims, I don't think I even saw anyone mention my name with a non-null for the first time until somewhere in page 60s or 70s. I'm also not fully reading every post since I don't intend to spend however many hours it is to actually read all the walls posted over the past 80 pages of content I've skimmed through. I'm disinterested in wading through shit posts, and I'm an irrelevant participant in conversations. So you could do far worse than to get rid of a null read for the vast majority of you guys, and a scum lean or scum read for the minority of this flash wagon.

[Toogeloo]

FIRST

VOTE: Tayl0r Swift


also in the event that we hit scum first, we should still do our darndest to hit scum on the second shot. i think its a bad play to hit town on purpose.

There's your first self vote... page 3.

[Toogeloo]

Now to wonder what I will do with the Scroll if I were to receive it first...

[Toogeloo]

Uh, oh... here come all the lynch derailers so that I can be the next question mark body shield for scumz.

[Toogeloo]

tooge you could just vote taylor and she could pass to me and then we get noraa

You think we get 8 more votes in 24 hours?

[Toogeloo]

I'm worried we won't even get 6 votes on me in 24 hours.

[Toogeloo]

Someone tell me this isn't vax jumping off a scum buddy

Well, look at his previous post.

There's no stopping this lynch on you Toog!
*Votes vanity target*

[Toogeloo]

Still Vax replaced Isis. ... if that's relevant.

[Toogeloo]

To prepare you all in advance, when I get the first scroll, I'd like everyone's preferred Scroll #2 wielder listed by their top 5 choices, in order. Whether I use this information or not, you will not know.

[Toogeloo]

Failure to submit a top 5 list for Scroll #2 might make me just use Scroll #2 on you instead.

[Toogeloo]

Dictator Toog is subbing in for Queen Noraa for a bit.

Being first has some privledges.

[Toogeloo]

Friendly reminder...

To prepare you all in advance, when I get the first scroll, I'd like everyone's preferred Scroll #2 wielder listed by their top 5 choices, in order. Whether I use this information or not, you will not know.

Failure to submit a top 5 list for Scroll #2 might make me just use Scroll #2 on you instead.

[Toogeloo]

PookyTheMagicalBear
Empty

Tayl0r Swift
pooky unowen bell noraa shelly

Gloria Cleary
Empty

shellyc
Noraa UNOwen Bell Lapsa Vaxkiller

Hopkirk
Empty

Theta Alpine
Empty

Bell
Taylor Zdenek Lapsa. Flea VaxKiller

Zdenek
Empty

Titus
Empty

MURDERCAT
Empty

UNOwen
Empty

MUSHSHAGANA
Hopkirk Pooky Shellyc Zdenek Lapsa

Flea The Magician
Empty

Adorable
Empty

Lady Lambdadelta
Empty

Noraa
Fidget Shellyc Titus Pooky Lapsa

Lapsa
Empty

Vaxkiller
Empty

Fidget
Empty

[Toogeloo]

Chop Chop mother huggers.

[Toogeloo]

bell
pooky
shellyc

5 names, or I consider your entry invalid.

[Toogeloo]

Who we think should be killed is beneficial information for everyone . God forbid we all sit around for 129 pages circle jerking each other until we last minute vote out someone who might have been more useful later.

[Toogeloo]

I'm forcing people to take a stance or be butchered. I might already have a scroll target in mind, or I might need the information. Maybe I'm just fucking with everyone.

If you know ANYTHING about me though... town or scum... I LOVE information. The more information, the better. Benighted ignorance is terrible thing, and town does better with more information when everyone is on the same page and can't be puppeteered by scum aligned town leaders.

[Toogeloo]

I don't mind it if you are town, I just don't like it if you are scum

Am I hammered? I think I am. You think I'd really set up tables and keep up a charade like this as scum after my hammer instead of just take out you or hopkirk for starting the wagon on me in the first place?

I have my 5 picks for scum team as well. I'd like to see how they align with everyone's 5 picks, and I will not reveal them until everyone has posted their 5 (or risked being murdered by me). I will not be swayed. Take a stance on scroll passing.

Everyone who refuses now should be heavily scrutinized later if they decide to opt into Scroll passing suggestions.

[Toogeloo]

I'm not asking for top 5 Scum, just top 5 Scroll (though to be honest, there really shouldn't be a difference).

[Toogeloo]

if you were asking for the top five slots that people think are scum
i would be fine with that

a list of people that people want to give the scroll to is not fine with me

The object is to kill scum, no?

[Toogeloo]

Updated.... Be back later.

PookyTheMagicalBear
Noraa Taylor Unowen Theta Alpine Vaxkiller

Tayl0r Swift
pooky unowen bell noraa shelly

Gloria Cleary
Empty

shellyc
Noraa UNOwen Bell Lapsa Vaxkiller

Hopkirk
Empty

Theta Alpine
Empty

Bell
Taylor Zdenek Lapsa. Flea VaxKiller

Zdenek
Empty

Titus
Empty

MURDERCAT
Empty

UNOwen
Empty

MUSHSHAGANA
Hopkirk Pooky Shellyc Zdenek Lapsa

Flea The Magician
Empty

Adorable
Empty

Lady Lambdadelta
Empty

Noraa
Fidget Shellyc Titus Pooky Lapsa

Lapsa
Empty

Vaxkiller
bell pooky shellyc unowen tswift

Fidget
Empty

[Toogeloo]

Noraa
Pooky
Adorable
Lapsa
Theta

Subject to change. Not ranked.

Could you please rank them.

[Toogeloo]

I am now scroll bearer. There is no excuse. Give me your 5 ranked names if you haven't done so.

[Toogeloo]

Scum control nothing. I alone control the scroll.

[Toogeloo]

What do you possibly think scum can gleam from a list of names people want as scroll bearers that they can't glean from reading the thread and people's reads?

It seems more to me you refuse to commit reads so you can't be held accountable later.

[Toogeloo]

glean*

stupid phone posting.

[Toogeloo]

PookyTheMagicalBear
Noraa Taylor Unowen Theta Alpine Vaxkiller

Tayl0r Swift
pooky unowen bell noraa shelly

Gloria Cleary
Empty

shellyc
Noraa UNOwen Bell Lapsa Vaxkiller

Hopkirk
Empty

Theta Alpine
Empty

Bell
Taylor Zdenek Lapsa. Flea VaxKiller

Zdenek
Empty

Titus
Empty

MURDERCAT
Empty

UNOwen
shellyc Lapsa Hopkirk Pooky Zdenek

MUSHSHAGANA
Hopkirk Pooky Shellyc Zdenek Lapsa

Flea The Magician
Empty

Adorable
Empty

Lady Lambdadelta
Empty

Noraa
Fidget Shellyc Titus Pooky Lapsa

Lapsa
shellyc UNOwen Hopkirk Titus Zdenek

Vaxkiller
bell pooky shellyc unowen tswift

Fidget
Empty

[Toogeloo]

I might or might not be totally giving weighted values to the rankings and eliminating the one with highest value. Or I could totally be waiting specifically for you and Theta so I know who not to scroll so that my 4 buddies can escape scrolls themselves and sweep the game.

[Toogeloo]

Of course, I could be waiting for all this information so that I can then tell you all my pick of 5 scum team and demand your paragon votes at game's end.

[Toogeloo]

Maybe I just like wasting everyone's time and will submit my vote at 1d23h59m55s.

[Toogeloo]

Maybe I'm a vindictive little shitter who just got killed and would much rather just see the whole game burn...

[Toogeloo]

Hmmm...

[Toogeloo]

I wonder if the mod will let me send them my choice in secret... Even though the next time the mod posts my choice will be revealed. It'd feel more like a NK in a nightless game .

[Toogeloo]

Barring some cracking the game wide open, I'm willing to bet scum already have some general ideas of who they'd kill if given a scroll already.

[Toogeloo]

You not telling me your choices isn't going to somehow magically open their eyes to the rest of your content.

Besides... In mafia, only scum is afraid of dying. Town only dies to scum if they've done something right, and it should be a badge of honor.

[Toogeloo]

I 100% promise you that I will expedite my scroll choice as soon as I have everything I requested.

[Toogeloo]

PookyTheMagicalBear
Noraa Taylor Unowen Theta Alpine Vaxkiller

Tayl0r Swift
pooky unowen bell noraa shelly

Gloria Cleary
Empty

shellyc
Noraa UNOwen Bell Lapsa Vaxkiller

Hopkirk
Unown Fidget Vax Flea Bell

Theta Alpine
Empty

Bell
Taylor Zdenek Lapsa. Flea VaxKiller

Zdenek
Empty

Titus
Empty

MURDERCAT
Pooky Vax Shelly Lapsa Noraa

UNOwen
shellyc Lapsa Hopkirk Pooky Zdenek

MUSHSHAGANA
Hopkirk Pooky Shellyc Zdenek Lapsa

Flea The Magician
Empty

Adorable
Empty

Lady Lambdadelta
Empty

Noraa
Fidget Shellyc Titus Pooky Lapsa

Lapsa
shellyc UNOwen Hopkirk Titus Zdenek

Vaxkiller
bell pooky shellyc unowen tswift

Fidget
shellyc Tayl0r Noraa Lapsa Adorable

[Toogeloo]

7 More to go...

[Toogeloo]

PookyTheMagicalBear
Noraa Taylor Unowen Theta Alpine Vaxkiller

Tayl0r Swift
pooky unowen bell noraa shelly

Gloria Cleary
Empty

shellyc
Noraa UNOwen Bell Lapsa Vaxkiller

Hopkirk
Unown Fidget Vax Flea Bell

Theta Alpine
Empty

Bell
Taylor Zdenek Lapsa. Flea VaxKiller

Zdenek
Empty

Titus
Noraa Pooky Adorable Lapsa Theta

MURDERCAT
Pooky Vax Shelly Lapsa Noraa

UNOwen
shellyc Lapsa Hopkirk Pooky Zdenek

MUSHSHAGANA
Hopkirk Pooky Shellyc Zdenek Lapsa

Flea The Magician
UNOwen Shelly Lapsa Noraa Theta

Adorable
Vaxkiller Lapsa Noraa Fidget UNOwen

Lady Lambdadelta
Empty

Noraa
Fidget Shellyc Titus Pooky Lapsa

Lapsa
shellyc UNOwen Hopkirk Titus Zdenek

Vaxkiller
bell pooky shellyc unowen tswift

Fidget
shellyc Tayl0r Noraa Lapsa Adorable

[Toogeloo]

I opted to put in Titus' entries as if they were ranked.

Just need entries from LLD, Theta, and Gloria.

[Toogeloo]

Zdenek is being replaced. Chances are near 0 of getting info from that slot.

[Toogeloo]

Zdenek is being replaced.

[Toogeloo]

Gloria is on V/LA until Nov 5 (probably to avoid the chaos of the US Election)... I won't count her's either.

So just LLD and Theta.

[Toogeloo]

I'm just going to move on without Theta and LLD's contribution.

58 - UNOwen [9]
47 - shellyc [8]
45 - PookyTheMagicalBear [7]
43 - Noraa [8]
32 - Lapsa [10]
25 - Tayl0r Swift [4]
24 - Vaxkiller [6]
19 - Bell [4]
19 - Fidget [3]
18 - Hopkirk [3]
11 - Zdenek [4]
06 - Titus [2]
05 - Adorable [2]
04 - Theta Alpine [3]
04 - Flea The Magician [2]
00 - MURDERCAT [0]
00 - MUSHSHAGANA [0]
00 - Gloria Cleary [0]
00 - Lady Lambdadelta [0]

[Toogeloo]

^Weighted values towards preference of secondary scroll holder.

[Toogeloo]

< and then ^ lol.

[Toogeloo]

My personal feelings of who I think the scum team are:
Hopkirk
Theta Alpine
Gloria
Vaxkiller
UNOwen

[Toogeloo]

I did a lot of ISOs, and mostly just checked the number of votes with the value of their position. A few of my scum picks are gut picks.

[Toogeloo]

Shelly had two #1 picks and two #2 picks and 8 total picks overall.

[Toogeloo]

1st pick was 10 points
2nd pick was 7 points
3rd pick was 4 points
4th pick was 2 points
5th pick was 1 point

[Toogeloo]

Hopkirk
Theta Alpine
Gloria
Vaxkiller
UNOwen

One of these 5 people will get the scroll.

[Toogeloo]

I'm not passing the scroll to Gloria due to her V/LA status. Hopkirk and Theta are gut scum reads.

So I will be passing to UNOwen or Vaxkiller.

[Toogeloo]

Vote: Vaxkiller

[Toogeloo]

My least confident Scum Read was Hopkirk, and it might have been slightly skewed by his push on me. I replaced Noraa with him. So Noraa is my "6th scum" choice if I were to be wrong after that.

I found it interesting that Lapsa had 10 people put them in their list, but they weren't top 3 weighted.

[Toogeloo]

Just preparing this for you ahead of time, MC...

[Toogeloo]

Just know that scum are not incentivized at all to push wagons through, and as we get closer and closer to parity, they'll be even less incentivized to work with town.

[Toogeloo]

There shouldn't be such a thing as town leader. Said person won't last long if they are aligned with town, and is probably scum (or helping scum's agenda) if they live a long time.

PEDIT: Only on mafiascum can you freely walk around gloating about killing pandas.

[Toogeloo]

Titus, I know you're going through some stuff, but I remember you being more like LLD was in the beginning of this game with your playstyle... very aggressive, like a dog on a bone, and now you seem more passive. Have you become more relaxed over the past year or so?

[Toogeloo]

Betelgeuse

My Lapsa summon was better.

[Toogeloo]

Also you have the most important shot of the whole game because if you hit scum we are winning and if you miss we are losing. Good luck!

Lol.

Prior to scroll, Toog and Vax are Scumz!
After Scroll, Toog and Vax are Towns!

Poor MC.

[Toogeloo]

lol... I'm not sure if I should give shelly an Oscar.
Bell, you're so nice to scroll holders.

[Toogeloo]

It's posts like these that are what make my gut scream Scumkirk.

[Toogeloo]

Fat bear lol.

[Toogeloo]

Pooky... You eat too much? You look stuffed.

[Toogeloo]

what

i am the nicest bear on the site :3

Ahem...