Death Curse

[Zdenek]

Hello! How I've missed you all!

Vote: Pooky

Since town gets to control at least two of the eliminated each day (the first scroll bearer and at least one of the next two), I think that we should use a points based voting system to rank who gets E'd from the game. I propose that we all pick our top three suspects each day, rank them, first choice gets 4 points, second gets 2, and third gets 1. (The exact number of points is up for debate, but hey ho this is what I settled on as a pretty straightforward one, which I think is better that 3,2,1 at reflecting people wanting to E their first choices). I think adding up the points will give pretty good guidance to the cursed where to pass the scroll and will hopefully be more accurate than treating the scroll as a vengeful shot.

For the first pick, I'm pretty happy sticking with the usual voting, but I'd also be curious to see if using the ranking system produces good elims generally.

[Zdenek]

Hopkirk, you seem to be arguing that people should indulge their personal scum-reads and pass the scroll to players who are generally read as town, just in case one of them is scum. Is that a fair assessment?

I'm pretty sure that doing that will be worse for town in the long run.

[Zdenek]

Does this look right in terms of stats
The answer could affect our strats

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D1
Kill 0 40%
Kill 1 54.5%
Kill 2 5.5%

If you mean probability of 86ing scum, then the probability of the first kill being scum is probably less than 25%, since I recall towns being worse than random guessing day one, but that probably isn't what you mean.

[Zdenek]

I've read up to page 6, and skimmed the more recent stuff.

Unvote

Consider my vote on Noraa.

quote="In post 63, MURDERCAT"]Ok I still haven't read but I have a question that I want answered by the time I do, should we change how we lim? Like if there is someone who people townlean but we know they have a strong scum game are we more likely to vote them in this setup?[/quote]
Can I ask what led you to this? I'm curious because it came up in the thread and it makes me question whether you've read or not.

I'm inclined to agree that Noraa's town-slip looks faked, and the meta argument for why it is scummy seems good to me.

You can influence whatever you please, but forcing people to pick from the top of a point list only guarantees the scum know EXACTLY what they need to do to win.

Of course it would be impossible to force a cursed player to pass the scroll to anyone in particular, but hey ho, I still think that my points plan would be excellent, but also not interested in pushing for it further.

He said he was gonna spectate this game and that I was in it already. I was at the time, not even aware of this games existence.

This seems like it can't be true.

[Zdenek]

EBWOP

I've read up to page 6, and skimmed the more recent stuff.

Unvote

Consider my vote on Noraa.

Ok I still haven't read but I have a question that I want answered by the time I do, should we change how we lim? Like if there is someone who people townlean but we know they have a strong scum game are we more likely to vote them in this setup?

Can I ask what led you to this? I'm curious because it came up in the thread and it makes me question whether you've read or not.

I'm inclined to agree that Noraa's town-slip looks faked, and the meta argument for why it is scummy seems good to me.

You can influence whatever you please, but forcing people to pick from the top of a point list only guarantees the scum know EXACTLY what they need to do to win.

Of course it would be impossible to force a cursed player to pass the scroll to anyone in particular, but hey ho, I still think that my points plan would be excellent, but also not interested in pushing for it further.

He said he was gonna spectate this game and that I was in it already. I was at the time, not even aware of this games existence.

This seems like it can't be true.

[Zdenek]

Made it to page 15.

Bell, I feel like I should be town reading you, after pages 7,8. Could you say something that will make be not be concerned by you?

I think Swift is probably town, and I think that Noraa-Swift scum buddies would be shocking.

You don't get to use this excuse after you won that other scumgame against very competent players.

What was your opinion of that game - it was one of the few that I looked at since signing up for this one. My own impression was that Noraa’s win really was quite lucky. Also, LLD, can you clarify what was said on the discord server? Preferrably in a way that town!Noraa would be bound to agree with.

Hopkirk, what were those numbers anyway?

My top three scum reads are Noraa, Owen and Bell.

[Zdenek]

"I should be TRing Bell"
"proceeds to SR Bell"

inconsistency = bad

Here we learn that shelly thinks that should is is, but I guess that depends on what your definition of is is.

[Zdenek]

Zdenek: I genuinely don’t know what you want me to say from that post. It just looks like you’re fence sitting.

Not fencesitting. I think you're failing to make me think your town since there are red letters in your roll pm.

[Zdenek]

My top three scum reads are Noraa, Owen and Bell.

What's this all about?

Ah yes, I knew that my vote against Noraa would lead to good things.
The wagon looks promising, Noraa's reaction to the pressure has indeed been flaily.
Adorable's vote was not great.

[Zdenek]

I saw like one person even float a Tayl0r-Noraa team here

Well, pooky has floated it, that's what I'm responding to. I'm not sure whether it was shot down. If it was, I don't think it was done convincingly.

Zdenek, have you considered that asking game advancing questions might be better for the town? Or being more specific if you absolutely have to ask questions that don't help sort slots? Maybe taking any kind of strong stand at all?

I haven't read about 1/2 the game. So I'm ok with my stances at the moment. Sometimes, I ask questions just to interact with people to see how they feel to me, and sometimes that's helpful.

[Zdenek]

The post reads like he didn't internalize how townish . . .

That is not what I meant. There was enough content from Bell that felt I should be able to start getting a picture of his mindset, something that I could relate to, but I got nothing.

[Zdenek]

@Zdenek - But what's it all about?

Laziness, and bolstering and attacking the wagon on Noraa in the same post.

[Zdenek]

I think pooky and Swift are both town and should direct their energies outward.

[Zdenek]

So I’ve made it to page 27. I don’t understand why anyone would want Isis dead for her posts around then.

[Zdenek]

I only just realised that Owen appeared out of nowhere after I stated a scum read on him. So that’s worrying.

[Zdenek]

Mushagana makes a lot of excuses. Is that par for the course with her? If it’s not, we should curse her for it.

[Zdenek]

V/LA until Monday

[Zdenek]

Who is Titus?