Micro 975: The Shape of Water [END]

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m gonna actually play this later. For now I need to wallow in despair and make plans.

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw my role is pretty yikes so don’t expect me to be worth much mechanically
It seems like it’s gonna be a slurry of negative utility

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: punpun
2 votes isn’t even halfway to a fade. I don’t think much of Creature’s reaction to votes on him but yours seems a little pre-emptively defensive.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m not sure, but I didn’t want to spend 15 minutes thinking of what I was trying to say exactly. I think you’re trying to act like a good guy early and appeal to Creature by being inquisitive towards those who press him.

[Gamma Emerald]

To reference the lexicon of the mod, it feels like a very early guardian angel pocket attempt.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay then, I read the intent quite wrong in that case.
But please at least fix the purple prose so that doesn’t happen again.

[Gamma Emerald]

But would I push it with bad articulation after unintentionally misinterpreting it as scum? Because that’s the facts of what happened.

[Gamma Emerald]

Mercury = Krazy
Venus = Shiro
Mars = Nancy Drew 39

Played with the hydra in a past game so I know which is which.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah, I don't think it's intentional.

The purple prose is here to stay, Gamma. Although, it could be repainted to green or even cyan if you prefer?

~pun

I don’t mind the purple prose, I just want it made clearer what the message is underneath the coat of paint.

[Gamma Emerald]

punpun is a Thespian I guess.

[Gamma Emerald]

That’s not the spelling, but I think so

[Gamma Emerald]

I would think RVS is already over

[Gamma Emerald]

People who get fussy about F-1 votes on pages with VCs annoy me.

[Gamma Emerald]

People who get fussy about F-1 votes on pages with VCs annoy me.

just to be clear this was about 53

[Gamma Emerald]

so if infinity and punpun are both scum then the game is solved right

even in a boon game, there's no way this is 5v1v1v1 or something extremely stupid like that?

-merc

new micro queue rules means this wouldn't have made signups if that was the case

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you think Infinity is scum?

this page

kekeke should have known I'd newpage myself with this post

holy shit so that is the term
I'd just been using it as a carry-over from my homesite but not being sure that was the term used

[Gamma Emerald]

krazy forms fast and effective read lists, but that one just kinda has an off vibe
why is punpun towards the bottom with an associative on me being scum with punpun but I'm towards the top?
VOTE: Senshi
this is a question where if there isn't a satisfactory answer I feel like they're more likely scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Those statements all seem good individually but I am concerned about the possibility krazy was laying tracks to misfade me off a punpun scumflip
UNVOTE: tho

[Gamma Emerald]

meh

[Gamma Emerald]

since we should have the same perspective.

ftfy?

[Gamma Emerald]

cool cool

[Gamma Emerald]

That just results in games padded with fluff

[Gamma Emerald]

It’ll become hard to solve tho

[Gamma Emerald]

That might be true. The sky is the limit, though.

[Gamma Emerald]

That just results in games padded with fluff

scumpoints for not wanting humor. im gonna assume youre in a super serious scum PT

I’m actually more serious as town

[Gamma Emerald]

Derp’s posting reads super stilted rn

[Gamma Emerald]

But can I really call you friend at this point?
VOTE: Derp
I don’t trust his tone rn

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd prefer it not continue so I can read his posts without having to comb through a layer of weird

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd prefer it not continue so I can read his posts without having to comb through a layer of weird

gamma we really need to work on this friendship, wanting to yeet ur dear friend derp is not very friendlike

Again I think you’re rushing to the word friend, and I also think it would be much easier to make sense of your posts if you didn’t force yourself to be excessively verbose

[Gamma Emerald]

Who is triangle though

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd prefer it not continue so I can read his posts without having to comb through a layer of weird

gamma we really need to work on this friendship, wanting to yeet ur dear friend derp is not very friendlike

Again I think you’re rushing to the word friend, and I also think it would be much easier to make sense of your posts if you didn’t force yourself to be excessively verbose

derp is not forcing anything but if there is a post u do not understand then ur decent friend derp would gladly elaborate

Fair enough. Not sold on it but also not gonna try to strike it down

[Gamma Emerald]

I think they trend towards town rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Notification

Sailor Senshi has become Venus and Mars.

OOF

[Gamma Emerald]

I think this is generally neutral Creature play, there’s a degree of fluff to scum Creature tho

[Gamma Emerald]

I think my scumplay is improved since we last played, but I’m town this game. I mostly joined this game to get it to fill faster so mint could enter sign ups, so I’m not too driven just yet. That’s liable to change though.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’d rather pocket you lol

[Gamma Emerald]

It’s called we have history.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma can you give me a scum!creature game where he ~did things~

I’ll try
I know some exist but not where they exactly are

[Gamma Emerald]

i somewhat dislike gamma for defending creature here.

What’s wrong with it?

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m mostly just willing to wait and see, since he hasn’t scumtold or towntold imo

[Gamma Emerald]

I can generally make out what is said there and I kinda agree, though tbh I also think certain types of dissonance within a hydra can be towny

[Gamma Emerald]

Nancy can you give me a brief collection of your town hydra games? Shiro or anyone else can do it too but I figured I’d ask the relevant person first

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE: derp
Feeling a bit better about him

[Gamma Emerald]

I like his talk about hydra reads

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe, but it lines up with some general practices I have and I was already not feeling the vote that much

[Gamma Emerald]

Could explain why what you talked about in 139 makes Alch scummy?

[Gamma Emerald]

That lines up with what I generally expect from scum Alchemist, he has a genuine solviness as town that he has to fake to varying degrees of success as scum
VOTE: Alchemist

[Gamma Emerald]

Interesting choice, but okay.

[Gamma Emerald]

Opportunistic is a fair thing to call my vote, but I did contribute some real thoughts there

[Gamma Emerald]

It's early so I don't have much data, but the things I've seen from Alchemist don't particularly inspire confidence in him yet
Mostly I just wanted to form a wagon, which is why I'm not too bothered by being voted rn, as the wagon just isn't on the person I'd originally planned

[Gamma Emerald]

The fact you say you mindmelded makes me a bit uneasy about this but whatever

[Gamma Emerald]

pagetop

[Gamma Emerald]

It expresses a level of confidence that seems a bit excessive

[Gamma Emerald]

:/

[Gamma Emerald]

okay I was concerned but that last Creature post is probably town over scum

[Gamma Emerald]

okay I was concerned but that last Creature post is probably town over scum

why is teh last post town for you? the vote screams scum to me.

creature why exactly is gamma scum? because gamma is active? the thread is like 11 pages... there are hardly any hyperposters.

Scum!creature's reads tend to be really easy, often following consensus
the fact he opted to throw out that last bit is very outside scum!creature's typical pattern of behavior

[Gamma Emerald]

Notification

Venus and Mars has been prodded.

Feeling like Nancy and Shiro would try harder if they were scum

Nancy I know has IRL circumstances interfering, but I think shiro tends to be a bit quiet as scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Who is scum?

I kinda FoS alch but beyond that I'm not sure
insanity = infinity right

[Gamma Emerald]

Why was infinity town, and why don’t you feel that anymore?

[Gamma Emerald]

That wasn’t a conscious factor at the very least

[Gamma Emerald]

tbh this game is pretty easy for scum to be friendly and look town for lonely town members

Whose behavior do you think lines up with that expectation?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why would it mean anything specific? Why wouldn’t I defend Creature as either alignment?

[Gamma Emerald]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=76709
This is the one I remember the most, though there’s probably others

[Gamma Emerald]

post count is honestly the weaker metric for creature vs. actual read quality
but I think he's shown glimmers of his town side on that front, as stated previously

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Taylor Swift
My personal suspects for the buddy-buddy type people were Taylor and Infinity because of the mind meld issue I had, and their responses to Creature doing things make me think Taylor is scum over Infinity. Infinity’s approach felt pretty fluid, while Taylor balked and tried to FoS me for bad reasons.

[Gamma Emerald]

The fact Infinity backed off would make him feel more like the unsub (using cop show terms lawl) on the surface. But his mindset seems consistent and sensible, while yours doesn’t. He’s continuing acting like he was because he’s town and that’s his approach to the game. But you reacted to Creature’s content by trying to create a situation where you could push me despite the situation changing.

[Gamma Emerald]

And is there a reason you’re pushing me over those other 2 beyond “they aren’t as active so they can’t respond as much”? Tbh nobody rn feels lurky to the point where it would be a challenge to interact.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m not bothered by your vote being on me. What bothers me is you trying to make something of my interactions with Creature despite there really being nothing to make out of that. You have also dodged my attempts to ask you about such things.

[Gamma Emerald]

I would have preferred you actually go back and address my issue but whatever

[Gamma Emerald]

Idk if that really functions to answer the original question but I think it still functions as an anti-answer where it answers the question in how it doesn’t answer the question
That ended up being a complete mess of a sentence lol. Essentially it’s like “why did the chicken cross the road” but for relevancy of answers

[Gamma Emerald]

sure

[Gamma Emerald]

My phone tends to auto-capitalize town because I’ve Ive used it so much in the context of mafia
So imo it’s not weird or scummy

[Gamma Emerald]

Also Taylor’s response any time she is question tends to amount to “just speaking my mind”, which isn’t great. Freedom of speech is not freedom from the consequences of what you say.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oof

[Gamma Emerald]

Why wouldn’t scum want to mimic your thought process

[Gamma Emerald]

285 was a bit too easy of a conclusion to jump to as well, and I also don't see a ton of sorting of the gamma/alchemist slots from her point of view. Like gamma's hop onto alchemist was opportunistic, but alchemist is also scum maybe?

Yeah I think that's a consistent issue in Taylor's questioning this game, it's not really working to draw conclusions, it just seems like talk for talking's sake
I've seen Taylor's townplay a couple times now and it's a bit more incisive than this I feel

[Gamma Emerald]

............

[Gamma Emerald]

I meant from you as a whole, not the sailor moon based stuff
I remember there also being you and Mathblade in D&D mini and you and RC in YGM

[Gamma Emerald]

Who's scum alchemist?

I have reasons, albeit not always strong ones, to Townread everyone but you, Derp, and Creature so my guess is 2 of that trio.

He has the negative attitude: scum indicative but he’s definitely sorting: town indicative.

UNVOTE:

~Mars

who's this about

[Gamma Emerald]

I meant from you as a whole, not the sailor moon based stuff
I remember there also being you and Mathblade in D&D mini and you and RC in YGM

Yeah, that too. I have like a gazillion town games. There’s CoD for one. I was also town in RC uPick (Innocent Children hydra. In Children of Hurrin (hydra’d with duckling). You were in all 3 of those games, so Idk why you’re asking me this exactly?

~Mars

it's so I can talk about my thoughts on hydra dissonance, though idr what I wanted to say now. I was honestly not expecting that many hits on that query.

Who's scum alchemist?

I have reasons, albeit not always strong ones, to Townread everyone but you, Derp, and Creature so my guess is 2 of that trio.

He has the negative attitude: scum indicative but he’s definitely sorting: town indicative.

UNVOTE:

~Mars

who's this about

Creature

~M

I agree wholeheartedly then. His last couple posts shook my faith in my read on him, but I didn't want to speak on it until I saw more that did that.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't know. Who is scum if not them?

Derp’s been pretty quiet so far, maybe him?

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok can we run up someone and get a claim because there's not a ton of time to form another wagon if necessary.

yeah I'd be okay to vote Alch maybe?

[Gamma Emerald]

infinity/tayl0r feels weird to derp with the whole mindmelding thing and betrayal act

could u guys explain ur read and progression on each other?

VOTE: Infinity

how do the quote and vote relate

[Gamma Emerald]

Also this reads to me like genuinely townie frustration.

Why?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma, what do you think? I don’t thnk Tayl0r’s happening.

Tay/derp/Alch is probably my preferred set
Creature I think has been towny

enough

that I don't want to yeet him today
you guys have seemed good so far
Infinity's been alright I think?
punpun just gut pings me town but idrk why rn

[Gamma Emerald]

idk maybe it's just me but that kinda of frustration seems NAI
could be scum caught for the wrong reasons yk?

[Gamma Emerald]

idk maybe? Could you detail how it's similar? I also wasn't present for TK or post apocalyptic iirc

[Gamma Emerald]

idk maybe? Could you detail how it's similar? I also wasn't present for TK or post apocalyptic iirc

You were in TK. Me and Shiro were misvigged and you were misexececuted. I don’t think you were in PA though. In TK, Alch seemed really slimy and in PA he voteparked on my slot, blatantly ignoring all signs of my slot being bleeding obvtown. In neither game, was he making the kind of nuanced reads I’m seeing here. In fact, I think he was deathtunnelling I forget who rn in that game. I sr him in both games ftr.

I was barely active in TK iirc, depending on which TK game you mean, assuming the Alch talk means the one where I replaced in midway through

idk maybe? Could you detail how it's similar? I also wasn't present for TK or post apocalyptic iirc

I’d say, in most games, reads that strike you as “scum caught for the wrong reasons” are more often than not likely town, in my experience anyway.

~M

Eh I guess you might have a point then.

[Gamma Emerald]

The apathetic posting is NAI but when it comes to actual content I think Creature has been towny. He’s thrown out some real reads and analysis, though currently the depth of it is kinda lacking I’d say. I have him as a weak townread, to put it plainly.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t think it was “obviously” a gimmick
But even then I’m just socially inept IRL so that’s not a great reason to SR me, if that’s your reasoning?

[Gamma Emerald]

:/
Well okay then

[Gamma Emerald]

HAFJ I9r302 ifc21;e'

HAFJ I9r302 ifc21;e'

Why’d you post the same string twice?
Antihero is that you???

[Gamma Emerald]

I kinda sus both bulge and pun rn

[Gamma Emerald]

I think the bad faith push this pun talked about makes sense, especially on me

[Gamma Emerald]

OHHH the thing in the movie was a bunyip

WE ARE LITERALLY THE PROTAGONIST OF THE FILM

~pun

No it’s not wtf
Also this your claim?

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m just lolling at punpun apparently flavor claiming when our roles lacked flavor

[Gamma Emerald]

P sure he just means those as past scums with that behavioral pattern around him

[Gamma Emerald]

Talking about the question in 643

[Gamma Emerald]

Just because it’s not booneytoonz doesn’t mean he won’t use roles developed in that series

[Gamma Emerald]

gg all
Me dying probably set town on the right path for all the wrong reasons lol

[Gamma Emerald]

Subject: Micro 975: The Shape of Water Death Pool

Oh holy shit! Tayl0r forgot she was in the hood and claimed scum and none of us caught it.

Tayl0r: I’m thrilled I randed scum this game!

Also Tayl0r:
[sorry, wrong PT

lmfaooo

How did we miss this Gamma?

imagine thinking i did that by accident
(for real though, that was on purpose, and i knew it wasnt the scum PT)

I instantly took it for the joke that it was
But hey anything to catch scum