Micro 975: The Shape of Water [END]
Forum rules
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
Good thing you mentioned the last part. I would've assumed they were scum with you.In post 23, Gamma Emerald wrote:Mercury = Krazy
Venus = Shiro
Mars = Nancy Drew 39
Played with the hydra in a past game so I know which is which.
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
You think it's more likely he misinterpreted it as scum rather than town, why? I think it's as likely in either case.In post 25, Alchemist21 wrote:
It’s slightly more likely but still doubtful. Unless you felt someIn post 20, Gamma Emerald wrote:But would I push it with bad articulation after unintentionally misinterpreting it as scum? Because that’s the facts of what happened.needto make an early push and started grasping at something I don’t really see the scum motivation there.
Unless the case is one of those solid iron ones. I mean, sure, they're good for security and sound proofing, but they weigh waaay too much.
~pun- punpun
-
punpun
- punpun
-
punpun
- punpun
-
punpun
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
Weird that you have a full readlist with everyone on separate tiers already. My only read right now is that I townlean Gamma.In post 68, Sailor Senshi wrote:Sailor Senshi
Derp
Gamma Emerald
Alchemist21
Tayl0r Swift
Creature
Punpun
Infinity 324
I think I'm approximately here as of this page
I'm letting the other scouts handle voting tho
-merc
Explain the derp and Infinity reads.
VOTE: Sailors
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
Also weird that Infinity asks about pun and not himself who's at the bottom. Why weren't you curious about yourself, Infinity?In post 69, Infinity 324 wrote:Why is pun scum?
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
I can kinda see that if I squint. What about the derp read?In post 89, Sailor Senshi wrote:
pretty much all of infinity's posts seem extremely awkward, I might have to meta him just to make sure he doesn't read like this as town too but so far he just feels... frozen and forcing himself to post, if that makes sense, which is not a feeling I'm getting from anyone else. Then again he could always have reverse polarity and hate playing townIn post 84, punpun wrote:Also weird that Infinity asks about pun and not himself who's at the bottom. Why weren't you curious about yourself, Infinity?
~pun
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
VOTE: InfinityIn post 97, Infinity 324 wrote:I'm just an awkward person in general I think, I'm also trying to get the game going since it's been a bit slow so far.
Why was your vote on Swift naked if you were trying to get the game going?
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
You think ability to be funny is something that's alignment indicative?In post 100, Sailor Senshi wrote:this was actually pretty funny. my townlean here is just a spicy hot take off this one post, I'll need more to cement it
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
like uh, i think this is a valid take from infinity and i agree that taylor's response to the e-1 being pointed out was a bit much. that, if anything, felt forced to me.In post 117, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
oh yes your words are scum indicative even if your actions are exactly what i wxpect of townIn post 66, Infinity 324 wrote:Yeah I think it's worded in a slightly more scum-indicative way.
and then there's this post which like. the second half is obvious and it's expected of town so scum are gonna try and emulate it, but the wording itself feltwrong. i think that taylor is probably aware of the point infinity was making so responding like this is just *shrug*.
~punpun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
Hey, Infinity, has anyone told you that you're a really underrated player and that I love your style?In post 184, Infinity 324 wrote:I promise <3
Also it plays to your wincon to pocket me, I'm giving out free TR's
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
Otherthoughts? you're asking for a lot here, my friend, I've had to search deep for those two posts already.
My reads as of right now at this very moment are:
Gamma
Taylor
Infinity - punpun and pun (that's me) discussed you a bit, and we agreed that you give town vibes but you're the kind of player that seems scummy... if that makes sense?
---
Sailor Senshi
Creature
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
Krazy felt like he was forcing content early on and I get pocketing vibes in some of his posts:
In post 100, Sailor Senshi wrote:this was actually pretty funny. my townlean here is just a spicy hot take off this one post, I'll need more to cement it
Only pings thoughIn post 124, Sailor Senshi wrote:
yes, this is the game where you caught infinity super early :3In post 116, Tayl0r Swift wrote:isnt this the game where i caught you super early?
-Merc- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun
- punpun
-
punpun
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
I dislike Creature's attitude and outlook of the game immensely, but I also think he's town for it.
Alchemist feels kinda of awkward this game. He lacks personality in his posts and he's being pretty formal/serious. I don't know if that's a scumtell for him specifically but I'm too lazy to check right now, and I think overall, it's probably a slightly scummy thing on average. Oh, also, I realise part of this is due to the way Alchemist capitalises "town" and "townread" and terms like that; I've always found that weird and scummy for some reason. I'm trying to filter that part out though and I still get the same general vibes.
VOTE: Alchemist
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
i am too tired to really post coherently and i should try to post at more decent times, but i still think gamma is town. as things have progress i've found myself agreeing with a lot of his thoughts on things (mostly regarding taylor who i still have a not-great feeling about, especially given her interactions with infinity. she also seems as if she's trying to disengage with pressure being placed upon her on this page which makes me even more).
pun and i talked some though and we both have the same thoughts about alchemist. my townread on him has dwindled as the game moved onward, and he feels as if his posts are stilted in a way that other people aren't. i do wonder if part of that is because it's a fairly quiet game and there's less to chew on/work with but even that feels like an issue scum would struggle with way more.
other than that, infinity has crept up my townlist more, as has derp (i like the tone of his posts). creature is extremely cranky but, like pun said, he feels town regardless.
~punpun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
Where do you think she did the "would scum be so obvious" thing? I agree that mindmelding on Gamma is a very weak reason to townbin you though. Like, what if you prefer to be towndumpstered instead?
In post 240, Tayl0r Swift wrote:strong townIn post 241, Tayl0r Swift wrote:ive seen what i want to see from a town!infinity
This is too confident given the reasoning. Taylor, what if I told you that mindmelding with someone on a read isn't a surefire way to ascertain that they share an alignment with you? It depends on the context and how nuanced the context is, but regarding Gamma, it's not a very hard take to fake as scum at all.In post 243, Tayl0r Swift wrote:we mindmelded over gamma.
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
Oh, really? Does Creature do the whole "woe is me, I'm playing a voluntary game by my own choice, and everyone is bad, and this is boring, and I'm the best" thing as scum? I've kinda shelved him as probtown for the attitude, but if he's pulled this kind of thing before as scum, that changes everything.
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
Should we do Creature then? I'll put some stock into Venus/Mars's meta read on Alchemist.
Attitude is NAI at best and scum-indicative at worst according to V&M, so:
VOTE: Creature
Don't want to vote for Infinity. He pings as town a lot, especially with how he was paranoid of and soeting Tayl0r earlier for buddying him
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
Not gonna look at meta unless I'm really invested in a game, that's too much effort.In post 476, Infinity 324 wrote:Yeah, to me it was the fact that the meta seemed so important to them but they didn't look at it/ask for it earlier. Is it so unlikely that scum would do that?
PEdit: I actually thought gamma looked good coming out of the whole voting alchemist thing. His mindset seemed to be consistent with trying to get a slow game moving.
Bulge, what pings you about how we converged on Alchemist?
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
Explain why? I'm irritated with what he's saying in calling the game boring, saying it's a loss due to the playerlist etc, it's negative and anti-fun. But still, I thought it was town-indicative at the time because it draws a lot of negative attention, and scum usually aren't so bold.In post 474, The Bulge wrote:I didnt catch that before but the mocking tone in the first part doesnt really line up to me with how theyre choosing to deal with the slot in that same post
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
lol this gamestate is so fractured.In post 462, Boonskiies wrote:
I don't see what's towny about Creature's solving, and 361 isn't hard for scum to fake, like, at all, Mars.
I dislike the way he entered this game, acting annoyed at standard RVS stuff in 10.
I dislike how confident he was on Gamma-scum in 256/258, only to lose the confidence with no progression/explanation later on.
and I dislike how he's not interacted with our slot's push on him once during this game. He's just ignored it.
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
Also, you never answered this, Creature.In post 185, punpun wrote:What's caused this massive disillusionment in the game for you?
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
Sigh, because there's no direction and we need a elim. Creature is our best lead, even if it's not confident. Why as scum do I need to go hard aggro on Creature, considering he's not even got us in the scumpool, and we were under no threat at the time?In post 495, Venus and Mars wrote:I’m really liking Infinity’s posts but punpun’s aggro Creature push is kind of weirding me out. @punpun, you have two people in this game who have meta on that slot including your #1 townread who don’t want to fade him, so why are you pushing him this hard?
You weren’t too concerned about Creature before I vetoed your Alchemist push.
And it reads quite differently to me than Infinity’s no vote deadline concern. I’m really not getting town vibes from that push at all.
VOTE: punpun
~Mars
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
I don't get what you mean about this meta thing. At no point did Gamma or Mars say they were townreading Creature because of meta, Mars only mentioned that apathy is NAI for Creature.
This is differentIn post 499, Venus and Mars wrote:This post doesn’t usually come from scum. Creature acted this way, actually worse in a game where he ultimately flipped town. He’s genuinely trying and he doesn’t sound off like he did in TBoNtB. The negativity by itself is NIA.
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
Why do I have to be worried about having a scumread? It's okay to be lost or have no confident scumreads as scum.In post 503, Infinity 324 wrote:If you don’t want to look into the meta, why not engage? It feels like you’re worried that you’ll lose the SR if you do that.
I've tried engaging with Creature about the game, and he's ignored me.
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
What's an example of towntelling he's done this game? being lost and having no reads?In post 504, Venus and Mars wrote:
Not to me, especially on D1. When Creature is engaged he makes really good reads. He’s caught scum in a lot of games and is also very frequently misexecuted.In post 498, punpun wrote:
Sigh, because there's no direction and we need a elim. Creature is our best lead, even if it's not confident. Why as scum do I need to go hard aggro on Creature, considering he's not even got us in the scumpool, and we were under no threat at the time?In post 495, Venus and Mars wrote:I’m really liking Infinity’s posts but punpun’s aggro Creature push is kind of weirding me out. @punpun, you have two people in this game who have meta on that slot including your #1 townread who don’t want to fade him, so why are you pushing him this hard?
You weren’t too concerned about Creature before I vetoed your Alchemist push.
And it reads quite differently to me than Infinity’s no vote deadline concern. I’m really not getting town vibes from that push at all.
VOTE: punpun
~Mars
~pun
In Starcraft 2, I had a hard gut tr on his predecessor Taly, then Creature replaced into that slot. He’s towntellihg a lot more in this game than he ever did in that one. I told people to never execute that slot and then my slot was NK’d, Creature was executed and he flipped town, just like I said he would.
~M
~pun- punpun
-
punpun Goon
- punpun
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 130
- Joined: October 21, 2020
This is particularly bad and makes me a little paranoid of Infinity+Creature. Like, why as scum am I so worried about getting a potential miselim when the gamestate is so fractured and our slot is under no suspicion?In post 489, Infinity 324 wrote:and it feels like you’re jumping on the opportunity for a potential ML/solid scumread.
~pun - punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun
- punpun