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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:38 pm

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4 layers of unmoving stocks is what I need to boot myself up for this game.

VOTE: Gamma

Mr. Emerald over here is like a fish in the sea, he sees the hurricane coming and what does he do? He transforms into a bird. It's beautiful, but tragic.
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Post Post #6 (isolation #1) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:38 pm

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Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:39 am

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It's RVS, like the Tom and Jerry episode that plays before the hard hitting world war 1 documentary. Was Creature expecting the tragic character death before any of the buildup or character development?

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Post Post #14 (isolation #3) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:47 am

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Are you sure "defensive" is the word you're looking for? What would I need to be defensive about?

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Post Post #17 (isolation #4) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:54 am

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11 in normal-speak: "It's RVS, Creature. What did you expect?"

Gamma is like an actor up on the stage. He sees a bouquet of roses walk into the spotlight, and what does he do? He burns the roses. With a flamethrower.

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Post Post #22 (isolation #5) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:07 am

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Yeah, I don't think it's intentional.

The purple prose is here to stay, Gamma. Although, it could be repainted to green or even cyan if you prefer?

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Post Post #26 (isolation #6) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:10 am

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In post 23, Gamma Emerald wrote:Mercury = Krazy
Venus = Shiro
Mars = Nancy Drew 39

Played with the hydra in a past game so I know which is which.
Good thing you mentioned the last part. I would've assumed they were scum with you.

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Post Post #27 (isolation #7) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:12 am

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In post 25, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 20, Gamma Emerald wrote:But would I push it with bad articulation after unintentionally misinterpreting it as scum? Because that’s the facts of what happened.
It’s slightly more likely but still doubtful. Unless you felt some
need
to make an early push and started grasping at something I don’t really see the scum motivation there.
You think it's more likely he misinterpreted it as scum rather than town, why? I think it's as likely in either case.

Unless the case is one of those solid iron ones. I mean, sure, they're good for security and sound proofing, but they weigh waaay too much.

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Post Post #28 (isolation #8) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:13 am

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VOTE: Creature

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Post Post #30 (isolation #9) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:20 am

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I see the sun.

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Post Post #79 (isolation #10) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:20 am

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was a joke

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Post Post #82 (isolation #11) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:25 am

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In post 68, Sailor Senshi wrote:Sailor Senshi
Derp
Gamma Emerald
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Tayl0r Swift
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I think I'm approximately here as of this page

I'm letting the other scouts handle voting tho

-merc
Weird that you have a full readlist with everyone on separate tiers already. My only read right now is that I townlean Gamma.

Explain the derp and Infinity reads.

VOTE: Sailors

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Post Post #84 (isolation #12) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:27 am

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In post 69, Infinity 324 wrote:Why is pun scum?
Also weird that Infinity asks about pun and not himself who's at the bottom. Why weren't you curious about yourself, Infinity?

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Post Post #98 (isolation #13) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:15 am

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In post 89, Sailor Senshi wrote:
In post 84, punpun wrote:Also weird that Infinity asks about pun and not himself who's at the bottom. Why weren't you curious about yourself, Infinity?

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pretty much all of infinity's posts seem extremely awkward, I might have to meta him just to make sure he doesn't read like this as town too but so far he just feels... frozen and forcing himself to post, if that makes sense, which is not a feeling I'm getting from anyone else. Then again he could always have reverse polarity and hate playing town
I can kinda see that if I squint. What about the derp read?

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Post Post #99 (isolation #14) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:16 am

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In post 97, Infinity 324 wrote:I'm just an awkward person in general I think, I'm also trying to get the game going since it's been a bit slow so far.
VOTE: Infinity

Why was your vote on Swift naked if you were trying to get the game going?

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Post Post #103 (isolation #15) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:23 am

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In post 100, Sailor Senshi wrote:
In post 57, derp wrote:
In post 54, Sailor Senshi wrote:derp you're not an alt of hewhoswims are you?

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this was actually pretty funny. my townlean here is just a spicy hot take off this one post, I'll need more to cement it
You think ability to be funny is something that's alignment indicative?

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Post Post #126 (isolation #16) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:51 pm

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hello, super sleepy second head rearing up for a few moments

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Post Post #127 (isolation #17) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:07 pm

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i like alchemist and gamma for town, even if gamma seems a little cranky this game. i'm a little less sure about infinity, but their posting doesn't feel forced to me. maybe it's because i'm mindmelding a little bit regarding some of taylor's posts.

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Post Post #128 (isolation #18) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:11 pm

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In post 117, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 66, Infinity 324 wrote:Yeah I think it's worded in a slightly more scum-indicative way.
oh yes your words are scum indicative even if your actions are exactly what i wxpect of town
like uh, i think this is a valid take from infinity and i agree that taylor's response to the e-1 being pointed out was a bit much. that, if anything, felt forced to me.

and then there's this post which like. the second half is obvious and it's expected of town so scum are gonna try and emulate it, but the wording itself felt
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Post Post #129 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:16 pm

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and for the rest i'm unsure right now. derp and creature by virtue of no gameposts and ss is floating around in the middle because there are some posts that make me tilt my head a bit and wonder the point of them. it's not a worry enough for me right now, though.

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Post Post #130 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:17 pm

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VOTE: taylor

and on that note, good night.

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Post Post #133 (isolation #21) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:31 pm

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you have wrung out of me a pre-sleep mobilepost

but no, i haven’t before

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Post Post #185 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:29 pm

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VOTE: Creature

What's caused this massive disillusionment in the game for you?

I like that Taylor isn't afraid to make enemies. I think you'd have to be a little daring to make #180, given they'll both disagree and dislike her more for it.

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Post Post #186 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:30 pm

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(daring as scum)

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Post Post #188 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:34 pm

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#138 from my boy Alchemist pings me a bit. It's like drawing content/making stances about stuff that isn't there. For example, #74 is not a defense, and #131 is overall gut town? Strange, but is strange SCUM... this is the question.

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Post Post #189 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:37 pm

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In post 184, Infinity 324 wrote:I promise <3

Also it plays to your wincon to pocket me, I'm giving out free TR's :)
Hey, Infinity, has anyone told you that you're a really underrated player and that I love your style?

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Post Post #191 (isolation #26) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:43 pm

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Other
thoughts
? you're asking for a lot here, my friend, I've had to search deep for those two posts already.

My reads as of right now at this very moment are:

Gamma
Taylor
Infinity - punpun and pun (that's me) discussed you a bit, and we agreed that you give town vibes but you're the kind of player that seems scummy... if that makes sense?
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Post Post #192 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:44 pm

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Post Post #194 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:51 pm

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Krazy felt like he was forcing content early on and I get pocketing vibes in some of his posts:
In post 100, Sailor Senshi wrote:
In post 57, derp wrote:
In post 54, Sailor Senshi wrote:derp you're not an alt of hewhoswims are you?

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this was actually pretty funny. my townlean here is just a spicy hot take off this one post, I'll need more to cement it
In post 124, Sailor Senshi wrote:
In post 116, Tayl0r Swift wrote:isnt this the game where i caught you super early?
yes, this is the game where you caught infinity super early :3

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Post Post #195 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:52 pm

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Post Post #196 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:53 pm

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Why is derp up top for you?

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Post Post #197 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:55 pm

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I now own an avatar and am greatly satisfied.

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Post Post #308 (isolation #32) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:38 pm

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greetings.

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Post Post #309 (isolation #33) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:40 pm

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salutations.

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Post Post #310 (isolation #34) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:08 pm

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I dislike Creature's attitude and outlook of the game immensely, but I also think he's town for it.

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Alchemist feels kinda of awkward this game. He lacks personality in his posts and he's being pretty formal/serious. I don't know if that's a scumtell for him specifically but I'm too lazy to check right now, and I think overall, it's probably a slightly scummy thing on average. Oh, also, I realise part of this is due to the way Alchemist capitalises "town" and "townread" and terms like that; I've always found that weird and scummy for some reason. I'm trying to filter that part out though and I still get the same general vibes.

VOTE: Alchemist

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Post Post #311 (isolation #35) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:08 pm

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i am too tired to really post coherently and i should try to post at more decent times, but i still think gamma is town. as things have progress i've found myself agreeing with a lot of his thoughts on things (mostly regarding taylor who i still have a not-great feeling about, especially given her interactions with infinity. she also seems as if she's trying to disengage with pressure being placed upon her on this page which makes me even more).

pun and i talked some though and we both have the same thoughts about alchemist. my townread on him has dwindled as the game moved onward, and he feels as if his posts are stilted in a way that other people aren't. i do wonder if part of that is because it's a fairly quiet game and there's less to chew on/work with but even that feels like an issue scum would struggle with way more.

other than that, infinity has crept up my townlist more, as has derp (i like the tone of his posts). creature is extremely cranky but, like pun said, he feels town regardless.

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Post Post #313 (isolation #36) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:47 pm

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Where do you think she did the "would scum be so obvious" thing? I agree that mindmelding on Gamma is a very weak reason to townbin you though. Like, what if you prefer to be towndumpstered instead?
In post 240, Tayl0r Swift wrote:strong town
In post 241, Tayl0r Swift wrote:ive seen what i want to see from a town!infinity
In post 243, Tayl0r Swift wrote:we mindmelded over gamma.
This is too confident given the reasoning. Taylor, what if I told you that mindmelding with someone on a read isn't a surefire way to ascertain that they share an alignment with you? It depends on the context and how nuanced the context is, but regarding Gamma, it's not a very hard take to fake as scum at all.

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Post Post #358 (isolation #37) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:32 pm

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Oh, really? Does Creature do the whole "woe is me, I'm playing a voluntary game by my own choice, and everyone is bad, and this is boring, and I'm the best" thing as scum? I've kinda shelved him as probtown for the attitude, but if he's pulled this kind of thing before as scum, that changes everything.

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Post Post #402 (isolation #38) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:37 pm

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If not Alchemist, I'd want Creature. This attitude is apparently NAI for him and he's gonna be very unhelpful if he is town, so at least we won't be losing much.

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Post Post #403 (isolation #39) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:38 pm

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Alchemist hasn't really done anything to change my mind on feeling iffy on him though.

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Post Post #404 (isolation #40) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:41 pm

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Eh, maybe I'm being too harsh on Creature. He's tried a bit since then. Idk, the attitude really just ticked me off though, which is rare for me.

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Post Post #405 (isolation #41) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:44 pm

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In post 343, Creature wrote:Shrug

UNVOTE:
In post 344, Creature wrote:This is boring af
Never mind, I would still elim this.

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Post Post #435 (isolation #42) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:17 am

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Should we do Creature then? I'll put some stock into Venus/Mars's meta read on Alchemist.

Attitude is NAI at best and scum-indicative at worst according to V&M, so:

VOTE: Creature

Don't want to vote for Infinity. He pings as town a lot, especially with how he was paranoid of and soeting Tayl0r earlier for buddying him

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Post Post #460 (isolation #43) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:44 pm

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huh, I'll vote for derp if not Creature

Hey, Gamma, what have you seen that's towny from Creature? Enlighten me pls

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Post Post #485 (isolation #44) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:01 am

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In post 476, Infinity 324 wrote:Yeah, to me it was the fact that the meta seemed so important to them but they didn't look at it/ask for it earlier. Is it so unlikely that scum would do that?

PEdit: I actually thought gamma looked good coming out of the whole voting alchemist thing. His mindset seemed to be consistent with trying to get a slow game moving.
Not gonna look at meta unless I'm really invested in a game, that's too much effort.

Bulge, what pings you about how we converged on Alchemist?

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Post Post #486 (isolation #45) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:05 am

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In post 474, The Bulge wrote:I didnt catch that before but the mocking tone in the first part doesnt really line up to me with how theyre choosing to deal with the slot in that same post
Explain why? I'm irritated with what he's saying in calling the game boring, saying it's a loss due to the playerlist etc, it's negative and anti-fun. But still, I thought it was town-indicative at the time because it draws a lot of negative attention, and scum usually aren't so bold.

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Post Post #487 (isolation #46) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:41 am

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In post 462, Boonskiies wrote:
Day 1
Vote Count 1.08

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Doug Jones, the actor portraying the Asset, also played the Pale Man and the Faun in Guillermo del Toro's earlier work, Pan's Labrynth, more accurately titled "El laberinto del fauno"


Alchemist21 [1]:
Tayl0r Swift
Tayl0r Swift [1]:
Gamma Emerald
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Alchemist21,
Venus and Mars [1]:
The Bulge
Creature [1]:
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Not Voting [3]:
Creature, Infinity 324, Venus and Mars



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Mod Notes
: The Bulge has replaced derp.

I will extend the deadline another 24 hours. This will be the last extension here.
lol this gamestate is so fractured.

I don't see what's towny about Creature's solving, and isn't hard for scum to fake, like, at all, Mars.

I dislike the way he entered this game, acting annoyed at standard RVS stuff in .
I dislike how confident he was on Gamma-scum in /, only to lose the confidence with no progression/explanation later on.
and I dislike how he's not interacted with our slot's push on him once during this game. He's just ignored it.

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Post Post #488 (isolation #47) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:42 am

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In post 185, punpun wrote:What's caused this massive disillusionment in the game for you?
Also, you never answered this, Creature.

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Post Post #490 (isolation #48) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:48 am

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It's town-indicative for an average player, yeah. V&M claims they've seen Creature do this as scum though - why would I be skeptical?

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Post Post #491 (isolation #49) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:50 am

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I'm fine with listening to people's meta reads since I'm too lazy to do them myself. I'm sheeping Mars on leaving Alchemist for today too. There's the caveat that it could be both of them, but unlikely, and they're shooting themselves in the foot for later.

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Post Post #492 (isolation #50) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:58 am

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ah, i’ve been a bit lazy about following this game admittedly but i’ve talked about it some with pun. more or less we agree about our vote. there hasn’t been too much of a shift in my reads and it’ll probably take a flip to get me back into this.

in the meantime, take this.

Spoiler:

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Post Post #494 (isolation #51) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:36 am

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Mars and Gamma townlean him for his takes, not due to meta. I disagree that his takes/solving are towny.

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Post Post #498 (isolation #52) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:59 am

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In post 495, Venus and Mars wrote:I’m really liking Infinity’s posts but punpun’s aggro Creature push is kind of weirding me out. @punpun, you have two people in this game who have meta on that slot including your #1 townread who don’t want to fade him, so why are you pushing him this hard?

You weren’t too concerned about Creature before I vetoed your Alchemist push.

And it reads quite differently to me than Infinity’s no vote deadline concern. I’m really not getting town vibes from that push at all.

VOTE: punpun

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Post Post #500 (isolation #53) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:00 am

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In post 496, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: punpun
This sucks, Infinity

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Post Post #501 (isolation #54) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:01 am

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When I make pushes, I usually go hard on them. Not because I need to or have an agenda, but because it's my playstyle. What's scum-motivated about the push, Mars/Infinity?

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Post Post #505 (isolation #55) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:06 am

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I don't get what you mean about this meta thing. At no point did Gamma or Mars say they were townreading Creature because of meta, Mars only mentioned that apathy is NAI for Creature.
In post 499, Venus and Mars wrote:This post doesn’t usually come from scum. Creature acted this way, actually worse in a game where he ultimately flipped town. He’s genuinely trying and he doesn’t sound off like he did in TBoNtB. The negativity by itself is NIA.
This is different

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Post Post #506 (isolation #56) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:07 am

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In post 503, Infinity 324 wrote:If you don’t want to look into the meta, why not engage? It feels like you’re worried that you’ll lose the SR if you do that.
Why do I have to be worried about having a scumread? It's okay to be lost or have no confident scumreads as scum.

I've tried engaging with Creature about the game, and he's ignored me.

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Post Post #507 (isolation #57) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:09 am

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In post 504, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 498, punpun wrote:
In post 495, Venus and Mars wrote:I’m really liking Infinity’s posts but punpun’s aggro Creature push is kind of weirding me out. @punpun, you have two people in this game who have meta on that slot including your #1 townread who don’t want to fade him, so why are you pushing him this hard?

You weren’t too concerned about Creature before I vetoed your Alchemist push.

And it reads quite differently to me than Infinity’s no vote deadline concern. I’m really not getting town vibes from that push at all.

VOTE: punpun

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Not to me, especially on D1. When Creature is engaged he makes really good reads. He’s caught scum in a lot of games and is also very frequently misexecuted.

In Starcraft 2, I had a hard gut tr on his predecessor Taly, then Creature replaced into that slot. He’s towntellihg a lot more in this game than he ever did in that one. I told people to never execute that slot and then my slot was NK’d, Creature was executed and he flipped town, just like I said he would.

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What's an example of towntelling he's done this game? being lost and having no reads?

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Post Post #509 (isolation #58) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:11 am

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In post 489, Infinity 324 wrote:and it feels like you’re jumping on the opportunity for a potential ML/solid scumread.
This is particularly bad and makes me a little paranoid of Infinity+Creature. Like, why as scum am I so worried about getting a potential miselim when the gamestate is so fractured and our slot is under no suspicion?

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Post Post #510 (isolation #59) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:13 am

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eh, actually. ours was the only vote on Creature, it's not like he was under any trouble there, and this associates them too directly. ignore that

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Post Post #511 (isolation #60) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:15 am

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In post 508, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 501, punpun wrote:When I make pushes, I usually go hard on them. Not because I need to or have an agenda, but because it's my playstyle. What's scum-motivated about the push, Mars/Infinity?

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Because you’re not listening to anyone who’s disagreeing with you. If you hard push a slot and people who know him better than you do don’t want to kill him, you should listen to that and maybe think that they have more info on that player than you do.

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The arguments weren't compelling before, they were along the lines of "Creature is solving". You've shedded some more light this page and the last which makes me have my doubts though.

For now: UNVOTE: Creature

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Post Post #513 (isolation #61) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:17 am

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...what? Where am I scumreading Creature using their apathy meta reasons? I'm scumleaning Creature for completely other things.

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Post Post #514 (isolation #62) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:18 am

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Kind of frustrated, taking a break.

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Post Post #529 (isolation #63) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:13 am

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("ours" being my hydra's)

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Post Post #530 (isolation #64) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:14 am

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In post 519, The Bulge wrote:
In post 485, punpun wrote:Bulge, what pings you about how we converged on Alchemist?

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In post 310, punpun wrote:I dislike Creature's attitude and outlook of the game immensely, but I also think he's town for it.

Image

Alchemist feels kinda of awkward this game. He lacks personality in his posts and he's being pretty formal/serious. I don't know if that's a scumtell for him specifically but I'm too lazy to check right now, and I think overall, it's probably a slightly scummy thing on average. Oh, also, I realise part of this is due to the way Alchemist capitalises "town" and "townread" and terms like that; I've always found that weird and scummy for some reason. I'm trying to filter that part out though and I still get the same general vibes.

VOTE: Alchemist

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In post 311, punpun wrote:i am too tired to really post coherently and i should try to post at more decent times, but i still think gamma is town. as things have progress i've found myself agreeing with a lot of his thoughts on things (mostly regarding taylor who i still have a not-great feeling about, especially given her interactions with infinity. she also seems as if she's trying to disengage with pressure being placed upon her on this page which makes me even more).

pun and i talked some though and we both have the same thoughts about alchemist. my townread on him has dwindled as the game moved onward, and he feels as if his posts are stilted in a way that other people aren't. i do wonder if part of that is because it's a fairly quiet game and there's less to chew on/work with but even that feels like an issue scum would struggle with way more.

other than that, infinity has crept up my townlist more, as has derp (i like the tone of his posts). creature is extremely cranky but, like pun said, he feels town regardless.

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was intentional. we were aiming for the same second, but alas. perfection is hard to strive for.

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Post Post #531 (isolation #65) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:15 am

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In post 520, The Bulge wrote:
In post 486, punpun wrote:
In post 474, The Bulge wrote:I didnt catch that before but the mocking tone in the first part doesnt really line up to me with how theyre choosing to deal with the slot in that same post
Explain why? I'm irritated with what he's saying in calling the game boring, saying it's a loss due to the playerlist etc, it's negative and anti-fun. But still, I thought it was town-indicative at the time because it draws a lot of negative attention, and scum usually aren't so bold.

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it's minor but it's mostly a language thing. your tone comes off as somewhat... passionate? in the first and last lines. the "I've kinda shelved him as probtown" line sticks out to me. your feelings toward the slot don't seem genuine in that post.
All of the things you're pointing out here are towny, not scummy. "I've kinda shelved him as probtown" is just the way I talk.

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Post Post #532 (isolation #66) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:17 am

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In post 521, The Bulge wrote:
In post 188, punpun wrote:#138 from my boy Alchemist pings me a bit. It's like drawing content/making stances about stuff that isn't there. For example, #74 is not a defense, and #131 is overall gut town? Strange, but is strange SCUM... this is the question.

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also this looks like a big setup for the posts I quoted above. it's fencesitty as hell but then none of these points are brought up again?
it's inconclusive and not worth much, yeah. hence why it wasn't brought up again.

you reek of bad faith

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Post Post #533 (isolation #67) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:18 am

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In post 523, The Bulge wrote:
In post 82, punpun wrote:
In post 68, Sailor Senshi wrote:Sailor Senshi
Derp
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Tayl0r Swift
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I think I'm approximately here as of this page

I'm letting the other scouts handle voting tho

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Weird that you have a full readlist with everyone on separate tiers already. My only read right now is that I townlean Gamma.

Explain the derp and Infinity reads.

VOTE: Sailors

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In post 69, Infinity 324 wrote:Why is pun scum?
Also weird that Infinity asks about pun and not himself who's at the bottom. Why weren't you curious about yourself, Infinity?

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In post 99, punpun wrote:
In post 97, Infinity 324 wrote:I'm just an awkward person in general I think, I'm also trying to get the game going since it's been a bit slow so far.
VOTE: Infinity

Why was your vote on Swift naked if you were trying to get the game going?

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In post 100, Sailor Senshi wrote:
In post 57, derp wrote:
In post 54, Sailor Senshi wrote:derp you're not an alt of hewhoswims are you?

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no i am a terrible swimmer
this was actually pretty funny. my townlean here is just a spicy hot take off this one post, I'll need more to cement it
You think ability to be funny is something that's alignment indicative?

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these are all bad-faith questions and pushes. reads like scum trying to get early footing in the game when nothing much was really going on.
In post 133, punpun wrote:you have wrung out of me a pre-sleep mobilepost

but no, i haven’t before

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In post 402, punpun wrote:If not Alchemist, I'd want Creature. This attitude is apparently NAI for him and he's gonna be very unhelpful if he is town, so at least we won't be losing much.

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In post 460, punpun wrote:huh, I'll vote for derp if not Creature

Hey, Gamma, what have you seen that's towny from Creature? Enlighten me pls

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lol
no, no, and lol

Want to explain why us solving and questioning people is "bad-faith questions and pushes"?

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Post Post #535 (isolation #68) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:24 am

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I disagree with all of his reasons. Maybe there's a smidge of OMGUS in there.

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Post Post #536 (isolation #69) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:25 am

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EVERYONE ACCUSES PRECIOUS PUNPUN OF BAD FAITH AND NEGLIGENCE OF META BUT NO ONE ASKS PUNPUN ABOUT THEIR DAY

it's always "punpun scummy" and "punpun did that read" or "punpun voted Creature" but no one wants to know how punpun REALLY feels

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Post Post #537 (isolation #70) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:28 am

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Image

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Post Post #538 (isolation #71) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:30 am

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everyone jsut treats me like an object to be voted or not voted and talked about and laughed at and i get told "punpun do this" or "punpun do that" or "punpun you're scummy" but nobody talks to me unless they want something from me and nobody wants to get to know the real me and i feel sO ALONE.

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Post Post #540 (isolation #72) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:31 am

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nobody ever says "punpun tell us about yourself, your talents, your ambitions"

it's never about me, is it? it's just about you.

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Post Post #541 (isolation #73) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:31 am

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In post 539, Tayl0r Swift wrote:how are you punpun?
i'm ok

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Post Post #544 (isolation #74) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:34 am

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GOOD.

also i had a tortilla wrap with grilled vegetables, guacamole and salsa for lunch which i enjoyed

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Post Post #545 (isolation #75) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:48 am

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In post 542, Tayl0r Swift wrote:tell me where youre at? what are you feeling beyond creature and omgussing bulge?
Stop bullying me

I'm lost outside of that. I thought Alchemist was scummy because he lacked personality/LIFE. There's not many feelings of scumminess in all of the others.

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Post Post #546 (isolation #76) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:53 am

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Post Post #547 (isolation #77) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:53 am

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Post Post #550 (isolation #78) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:09 am

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Should I claim? i can see where this is headed

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Post Post #563 (isolation #79) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:41 pm

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In post 550, punpun wrote:Should I claim? i can see where this is headed

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?"¬!? E????????"R£%£ ?"??

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Post Post #564 (isolation #80) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:42 pm

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DO IT PUN, PULL THE TRIGGER

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Post Post #565 (isolation #81) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:42 pm

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why does everyone just IGNORE me

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Post Post #566 (isolation #82) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:42 pm

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i am RIGHT HERE pun...

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Post Post #567 (isolation #83) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:43 pm

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at least YOU'RE here for me, punpun

thank you, thank you so much. it means a lot

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Post Post #568 (isolation #84) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:45 pm

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you're welcome, mr. strickland

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Post Post #569 (isolation #85) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:45 pm

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we're a "Town Bunyip"

At night, can target a player. we'll be told whether or not they're vanilla.
also, if our target is vanilla, they'll be protected from kills on that night.

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Post Post #570 (isolation #86) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:46 pm

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I crumbed it, I'll go find them. they're a little galaxy brained

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Post Post #572 (isolation #87) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:50 pm

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In post 5, punpun wrote:4 layers of unmoving stocks is what I need to boot myself up for this game.

VOTE: Gamma

Mr. Emerald over here is like a fish in the sea, he sees the hurricane coming and what does he do? He transforms into a bird. It's beautiful, but tragic.
"4 layers" is the layers of complexity/connections

"unmoving stocks" is the crumb for the vanilla cop part

Vanilla>ice cream>freeze>stocks
Cop>station>stationary>unmoving

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Post Post #573 (isolation #88) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:51 pm

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punpun can vouch for me

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Post Post #575 (isolation #89) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:52 pm

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i can in fact vouch for this, and i can also vouch for the fact that i thought it was a very silly crumb... and that didn't stop me from approving it at all.

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Post Post #576 (isolation #90) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:52 pm

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hey, creature!! sorry about earlier. I love you now

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Post Post #577 (isolation #91) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:53 pm

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pun REALLY really loves you, creature. wants you in the hydra with us as we speak.

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Post Post #578 (isolation #92) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:53 pm

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thank you for vouching for me at every turn, punpun

I'm writing up the invitation letter now

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Post Post #579 (isolation #93) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:55 pm

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see? pun is SO eager... to replace me!

it hurts, so much. i don't think i can let us go on like this anymore.

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Post Post #580 (isolation #94) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:59 pm

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NO punpun

you will always come first. it is in our name

but there is also room for Creature

"punpunture"

UNVOTE: punpun

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Post Post #582 (isolation #95) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:59 pm

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it's fine. it's fine

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Post Post #583 (isolation #96) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:59 pm

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In post 580, punpun wrote:NO punpun

you will always come first. it is in our name

but there is also room for Creature

"punpunture"

UNVOTE: punpun

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Post Post #584 (isolation #97) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:01 pm

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first forgetting to sign, and then stealing my name... cruel, pun, cruel.

but yeah we're a little bunyip, pls unvote.

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Post Post #586 (isolation #98) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:31 pm

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I'M SORRY

I'm sure you're a lovely person full of energy and life in real life. It felt like you were restraining yourself and concealing your personality in your posts

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Post Post #588 (isolation #99) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:39 pm

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scum sometimes are less open so they're less vulnerable to attacks, can't be toneread or feel more self-conscious

do you veleive our claim, bud
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Post Post #592 (isolation #100) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:47 pm

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*shrug* we're past it

if you're not convinced, you're not convinced

if there's a real doc/Neapolitan, they should counterclaim us but they don't exist most likely, so there won't be any CCs

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Post Post #594 (isolation #101) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:49 pm

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lol

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Post Post #595 (isolation #102) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:51 pm

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what happened to the good old days when we were friends, Infinity. I thought we had something, we enjoyed each other's company, and we were mindmelding

and now we're scumslipping apparently over reasons i don't comprehend

I miss the old Infinity, bring him back

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Post Post #596 (isolation #103) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:52 pm

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i did not watch the shape of water to try and figure out what a bunyip was just for people not to believe us!!

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Post Post #597 (isolation #104) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:52 pm

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OHHH the thing in the movie was a bunyip

WE ARE LITERALLY THE PROTAGONIST OF THE FILM

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Post Post #599 (isolation #105) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:53 pm

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we are the HERO HERE!!

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Post Post #600 (isolation #106) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:54 pm

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:cry:

don't feel too bad when we flip town. i have faith in you all

mostly

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Post Post #601 (isolation #107) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:54 pm

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you ever seen the movie, infinity? we're the guy with the fins. and the scales. and the weird magical powers. but we use them for GOOD!

...except around cats.

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Post Post #602 (isolation #108) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:55 pm

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but seriously, maybe we're town cleared because we're literally named after the main blue monster sea guy from the movie

anyone want to CC that?

also, there's unlikely to be another protective because of our existence

if no one claims, protective, we're very likely town

use your heads pls

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Post Post #604 (isolation #109) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:56 pm

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doesn't say that anywhere in the rules. mod would tell us if that was the case I assume

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Post Post #605 (isolation #110) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:56 pm

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infinity...

did you get a fakeclaim after all this, all our mindmelding?

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Post Post #606 (isolation #111) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:57 pm

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ARE YOU STRICKLAND??

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Post Post #608 (isolation #112) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:57 pm

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In post 602, punpun wrote:also, there's unlikely to be another protective because of our existence

if no one claims protective, we're very likely town

use your heads pls
this though
seriously

if scum wants us dead, make them fakeclaim a protective

because otherwise, we're town for being the sole one

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Post Post #609 (isolation #113) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:58 pm

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In post 607, Alchemist21 wrote:My role has no flavor, so you’re either making that part up or the mod was inconsistent with giving flavor roles.
Town Bunyip is the name of our role, yeah

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Post Post #611 (isolation #114) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:59 pm

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

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Post Post #612 (isolation #115) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:00 pm

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sigh, other PRs will know we're telling the truth, since they're likely also themed

Boon likes to give weird themed roles, this isn't uncommon

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Post Post #614 (isolation #116) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:01 pm

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In post 608, punpun wrote:
In post 602, punpun wrote:also, there's unlikely to be another protective because of our existence

if no one claims protective, we're very likely town

use your heads pls
this though
seriously

if scum wants us dead, make them fakeclaim a protective

because otherwise, we're town for being the sole one

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don't let scum get this elim for free pls

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Post Post #616 (isolation #117) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:02 pm

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pun... we tried.

it's okay, we can rest now.

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Post Post #617 (isolation #118) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:02 pm

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In post 615, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 612, punpun wrote:sigh, other PRs will know we're telling the truth, since they're likely also themed

Boon likes to give weird themed roles, this isn't uncommon

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This is blatant role fishing
ah yes, we're nearly being elimmed and thought this was the best time to rolefish

you are a genius, Alchemist

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Post Post #618 (isolation #119) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:03 pm

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In post 613, Infinity 324 wrote:Someone just hammer
you scum trying to get this through before someone who actually thinks rationally comes on, infinity?

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Post Post #619 (isolation #120) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:03 pm

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LET US SLEEP

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Post Post #621 (isolation #121) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:04 pm

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WAIT THERE IS ONE LAST THING

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Post Post #622 (isolation #122) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:04 pm

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ONE NOBLE CAUSE THAT MY ANCESTORS DEMANDED

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Post Post #623 (isolation #123) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:05 pm

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DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS?

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Post Post #624 (isolation #124) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:05 pm

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I DO

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Post Post #625 (isolation #125) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:05 pm

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And now I am complete

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Post Post #627 (isolation #126) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:06 pm

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gonna be real it feels like our elim is trying to get pushed through super quick now in the face of a claim without any analysis and that there are super flimsy reasons to disregard it but ya know.

and thank you, infinity.

now i must return to the lake... (saltwater by the way because we're a BUNYIP!!)

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Post Post #628 (isolation #127) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:06 pm

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damn, you nearly sniped my pagetop there lol

I think we're inventing some kind of messed up town theater

relish it, drink it in

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Post Post #629 (isolation #128) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:07 pm

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In post 627, punpun wrote:gonna be real it feels like our elim is trying to get pushed through super quick now in the face of a claim without any analysis and that there are super flimsy reasons to disregard it but ya know.
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Post Post #631 (isolation #129) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:08 pm

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Spoiler:
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