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In post 3050, Mizzytastic wrote:/in to mod large, the worst quackup modding again

The Setup

15:4:1

Rolestopper
Role Watcher
Lazy Roleblocker
Novice Combined Doctor Tracker
Universal Backup
10* VT

Rolecop
1-shot Strongman
1-shot Ninja
1-shot Bulletproof

Non-consecutive Nights Commuter Serial Killer

The design ideas

My initial ideas were I wanted to run a large, I wanted a serial killer, and I wanted all the 'role' roles. I will be happy with pretty much any passing design that retains all these features.

I thought non-consecutive commuting gave the serial killer a more interesting choice for protecting themselves gameplay wise than some amount of bulletproof, and leaves the mafia strongman shot for town protection which there is quite a bit of.

The other mafia roles give the mafia some idea of what to expect out of the rest of the setup. I would be running all 3 as passives that fire the first time their condition is met so it gives the mafia an interesting decision of trying to preserve their shots for when they need them.

Mafia + SK can go back for town quickly. I felt like they needed an additional protective, and an investigative that interacted with the ninja, and I thought making them combined would create a powerful role the town need while giving interesting choices of who to target when you probably want to target different people with different parts of your role. The UB is likely to pick up a 'role' role and keep the focus on that design idea.

Possible changes

I'm still worried this game is a bit scumsided, but didn't want to cut down on the townies much more. I'd vastly prefer changes to be made to the UB or the doc-tracker, but am ok with losing the lazy on the rb if town just needs more power, or gating the 'role' roles if I'm wrong and it's too townsided. A particular place I'm worried is town perhaps not having enough investigatives/clears, and if you think it's best to keep as is and add more town power I'd consider a pair of masons or an activated IC over another night action. I'd initially considered a weak role for more investigation + protection, but thought there were enough kills going around as is.

For reducing strength on the mafia side, my ideas are make all the 1-shots into a single JOAT who has to choose if and when to use stuff or making the bulletproof into a traitor instead (maybe the mafia know the traitor is bulletproof to create wifom about any failed nightkills). I'm also ok with changing this to an X:3:1 setup but would prefer that was a last resort.

I think commuting is a neat take on SK protection but understand if it's not appropriate.

Stuff I need clarified

• Is there an NAR-correct answer on what happens if someone protects the bulletproof mafia. My take would be rolestopper first (cos it blocks everything), then bulletproof (it's a passive), then doc (it's an active)
  
• I don't know if the lazy rb should know how many scum to look for before lazy, or if the sk should be public knowledge in general
  
• I mention an activated IC in my possible changes. Would a UB inheriting from an activated IC be automatically confirmed, get to activate again, or the activation is like a one-shot and it's gone for good?

I'll get the role pms and stuff done when the setup is finished cos I just came off wrapping up my previous game. You can find that game here and a list of all the threads to see what my take on that stuff looks like here.

In post 4, Mizzytastic wrote:Role Watcher gets role names, instead of player names. It's listed as normal on the wiki but if that's inaccurate I'm happy to change it been as if it's not normal it's also not necessary for the initial design idea I had

In post 4, Mizzytastic wrote:Role Watcher gets role names, instead of player names. It's listed as normal on the wiki but if that's inaccurate I'm happy to change it been as if it's not normal it's also not necessary for the initial design idea I had

In post 20, Mizzytastic wrote:Though I'm not entirely sure how loud interacts with all the blocking floating around. I guess it just doesn't happen so no noise?

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game (n.)

c. 1200, from Old English

gamen

"joy, fun; game, amusement," common Germanic (cognates: Old Frisian

game

"joy, glee," Old Norse

gaman

"game, sport; pleasure, amusement," Old Saxon

gaman

, Old High German

gaman

"sport, merriment," Danish

gamen

, Swedish

gamman

"merriment"), said to be identical with Gothic

gaman

"participation, communion," from Proto-Germanic

*ga

- collective prefix +

*mann

"person," giving a sense of "people together."

The -

en

was lost perhaps through being mistaken for a suffix. Meaning "contest for success or superiority played according to rules" is first attested c. 1200 (of athletic contests, chess, backgammon). Especially "the sport of hunting, fishing, hawking, or fowling" (c. 1300), thus "wild animals caught for sport" (c. 1300), which is the

game

in

fair game

(see under

fair

(adj.)), also

gamey

. Meaning "number of points required to win a game" is from 1830.

Game plan

is 1941, from U.S. football;

game show

first attested 1961.

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Vanilla Townie

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Mafia

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