Mini Theme 2176: Jake's Grand Idea (Post Game)

[DoubtingThomas]

TemporalLich
Sirius9121
Assemblerotws Nono
Titus Albert B. Rampage
samantha97
Lucky2u
PenguinPower
ManWithNoName
A Simple Plan Galron
DoubtingThomas
PlusJOYED
Starbuck
Tayl0r Swift

looks like i played with only 1 of you in terms of completed game

[DoubtingThomas]

VOTE: temporal lich
burn the lich!

this is my n0

[DoubtingThomas]

yes I remember your name but I didn't remember from where. was t hat on mafiascum? and yes generally I get that I am scummy town

[DoubtingThomas]

no n0 (at least where i come from) are only green checks. and i was talking about plusjoyed not you

[DoubtingThomas]

no n0 (at least where i come from) are only green checks. and i was talking about plusjoyed not you

this is a Grand Idea mutation, I am pretty sure there are roles that get N0 guilties.

I have no reason to suspect you or plusjoyed of being an impostor or cultist, so I currently TR you

so you TR everyone until someone does something weird? shouldn't that be a null read?

[DoubtingThomas]

why we claiming?

[DoubtingThomas]

69, 72, 357

[DoubtingThomas]

someone claimed IC?

[DoubtingThomas]

man this game is a little chaotic to join in lol

[DoubtingThomas]

tayl0r seemed townie. feels like a slot that is generating one of the most content without scummy agenda. weird push by TL

[DoubtingThomas]

why do you say that she is not actually mod confirmed town

[DoubtingThomas]

oh also don't forget doubtingThomas gave a fake n0 result on me

so you are hardclaiming you are not town?

[DoubtingThomas]

what do you claim temporal

[DoubtingThomas]

i hard claim town

[DoubtingThomas]

why do you guys think a scum would lie about having a n0 green check on someone.. wtf

[DoubtingThomas]

what's the point of all these claiming? just because it's role madness? ugh gonna not join these sort of games before. i am town x-shot role. i find no benefits to claiming what my night actions do

[DoubtingThomas]

as a wolf i probably don't give a random n0 on someone something something but whatever

[DoubtingThomas]

like if anyone was a wolf they pick whatever town role there is in the page they selected? and there's no true way of confirming that it's true until enough night actions have happened or something? i find little value in open claiming like this. so worthless

[DoubtingThomas]

can you at least claim the exact nature of your N0 check (e.g. cop, gunsmith, scumfinder, w/e) so you don't look like caught scum?

fake claim

[DoubtingThomas]

i am town x-shot __________

i don't see a merit in claiming. why give out info to scums out there?

[DoubtingThomas]

it's role madness, not 'claim what all of your role is so wolves have additional info on town and can easily fake claim roles that cannot be confirmed and live until the end' game right?

[DoubtingThomas]

how is X-shot ___ a lie?

[DoubtingThomas]

are you gonna explain what the benefit for town is in mass claiming on D1 or are you just gonna say scum like you are a pokemon

[DoubtingThomas]

you lied about having a n0 check

yes and why would a wolf do that? I would probably rescind it eventually, or if I die my rolecard which says I am not a cop would give no value to my n0 check.

what benefit do I get for lying as a wolf? you think I would give n0 to a town as a wolf? when there's a possible 3p? or you think I would give n0 to a wolf buddy?

[DoubtingThomas]

i dont get why you can't answer it, but it doesn't make me a scum

[DoubtingThomas]

so why is plusjoyed who is hypothetically my buddy call me out on it and vote me first? we aren't a team most of the times. we don't have to bus if she is actually my teammate. the only case is she is 3p and i am T or W independently and didn't know of her alignment

[DoubtingThomas]

there's no reason to disassociate right now so early in the game especially when i needlessly had to give out a fake n0. there are even better ways to disassociate. bruh.

[DoubtingThomas]

so why does a wolf do it? why does a wolf go out of his way to try to attract needless attention and claim fake n0?

[DoubtingThomas]

i mean like. if you think i am a wolf for lying in a role madness game that i have never played before about a mere n0, i can't stop you. but from where i come from leaving an n0 in any potential set up is considered a good play because it allows real cops to hide and leave real checks should they ever die.

but you do you

[DoubtingThomas]

i mean like. if you think i am a wolf for lying in a role madness game that i have never played before about a mere n0, i can't stop you. but from where i come from leaving an n0 in any potential

cop

set up is considered a good play because it allows real cops to hide and leave real checks should they ever die.

but you do you

[DoubtingThomas]

you can confbias all you want. tell me other wolves too though

[DoubtingThomas]

i mean like. if you think i am a wolf for lying in a role madness game that i have never played before about a mere n0, i can't stop you. but from where i come from leaving an n0 in any potential set up is considered a good play because it allows real cops to hide and leave real checks should they ever die.

but you do you

I have never heard that strategy before but I have heard "lim all liars"

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... y-Yates%29

read under 'How to provide cover' if interested

[DoubtingThomas]

i didnt fake guilty

[DoubtingThomas]

also towns fake guilty. faking checks help real cops leave checks hidden. it can be anti-town, but so can a lot of other things.

[DoubtingThomas]

whatever man. you said scums fake claim for a guilty. let's drop the topic. can you tell me who the wolves are?

[DoubtingThomas]

i meant wolf reading anyone. i didnt ask for results of anything.

[DoubtingThomas]

ok? i did say it's the norm where i came from.

[DoubtingThomas]

got nussin to say if you think this is my wolf play

[DoubtingThomas]

allowing wolves to push easily just because of a single fake claim in a role madness :clap clap:

[DoubtingThomas]

You've been here over 2 years, so, when does it become that you are from here?

i won't ever be from here

[DoubtingThomas]

so temporal is blatantly wolf siding for pushing me simply for lying about n0 green check and refusing to talk to me. take note!

[DoubtingThomas]

yes. temporal are you a wolf?

[DoubtingThomas]

feels like you don't want me to claim. like the way you avoided my question saying my question is to ask more question was weird

[DoubtingThomas]

i dont know

[DoubtingThomas]

I never asked those questions.. what? I asked if someone can explain why people are claiming? and what the benefit is?

[DoubtingThomas]

it's role madness, not 'claim what all of your role is so wolves have additional info on town and can easily fake claim roles that cannot be confirmed and live until the end' game right?

are you gonna explain what the benefit for town is in mass claiming on D1 or are you just gonna say scum like you are a pokemon

I can't answer that question.

[DoubtingThomas]

i CaN't AnSweR ThAt QuEsTioN

[DoubtingThomas]

there's no benefit to me or the rest of the town for me to answer that... it's a loaded question and you're trying to paint me as the Impostor

that IS what you are doing. pushing me for not claiming correctly when there's endless possibility of what I could be

[DoubtingThomas]

hmm Temporal. Are you a Jester?

[DoubtingThomas]

how is that a town post? openwolfing bro?

[DoubtingThomas]

sigh wtf how is claiming n0, again, scummy?

[DoubtingThomas]

I am town vig i think it's page 69? one of the pages i claimed i was on. allow me to shoot for town's sake

[DoubtingThomas]

Tayl0r Swift - Fakeclaimed a n0 result which is super scummy (I don't care that it provides "iNvEsTiGaTiVe CoVeR", you don't fakeclaim investigative results and get away with it), otherwise nulltown. Alledgedly confirmed, but I'm not holding my breath unless Albert backs Tayl0r's confirmation (in 284) up.

i just wanna state for the record that it wasnt me who faked the N0 result. i forget who that was, but i read it as a joke and NAI.

dangit factual error on my part (-towncred for me).

DT claimed the n0 in 37 and it is still a proven lie because PJ is a claimed 3P.

The new lead rist looks like this (with me as

scumlean

for stupidity):

Albert B. Rampage

- Weakly confirmed via 183, ISO looks promising

ManWithNoName

- Actually does town things unlike the rest of the town.

Starbuck

- Few posts, but those posts are town mindset.

Tayl0r Swift

- Allegedly confirmed, but I'm not holding my breath unless Albert backs Tayl0r's confirmation (in 284) up.

PenguinPower

- Seems very low effort but there is still a veil of effort towniness.

samantha97

- Towniest post is a claim ledger which isn't markedly towny or something that scum can't do. ISO is mostly just chaff.

Battle Mage

- Not posted yet, and neither has Sirius. The definition of

hard null

.

Lucky2u

- Has done nothing but indirectly bring light to some GIM shenanigans.

PlusJOYED

- Deathless survivor who has both townsided and scumsided.

Nono

- Has done literally nothing but vote Albert and say they want to hammer. Seems extremely lurky to me.

Galron

- You sound like a cultist, trying to be town but you hate my guts for my role claim.

DoubtingThomas

- Is hopelessly tunneled on me, but still willing to attack samantha because lul... that is what scum do. Also fakeclaimed a n0 result which is super scummy (I don't care that it provides "iNvEsTiGaTiVe CoVeR", you don't fakeclaim investigative results and get away with it)

this post is shit and i am shooting you

[DoubtingThomas]

69, 72, 357

page 72 Post #1789

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like Temporal's "Scum reads" in a ROLE MADNESS games are people who fake claimed n0? really

when it's literally a game you choose 3 pages full of roles and you get assigned anything? trying to solve people's alignment via claims on d1 is literally the dumbest shit i've ever heard

[DoubtingThomas]

Tayl0r Swift - Fakeclaimed a n0 result which is super scummy (I don't care that it provides "iNvEsTiGaTiVe CoVeR", you don't fakeclaim investigative results and get away with it), otherwise nulltown. Alledgedly confirmed, but I'm not holding my breath unless Albert backs Tayl0r's confirmation (in 284) up.

i just wanna state for the record that it wasnt me who faked the N0 result. i forget who that was, but i read it as a joke and NAI.

dangit factual error on my part (-towncred for me).

DT claimed the n0 in 37 and it is still a proven lie because PJ is a claimed 3P.

The new lead rist looks like this (with me as

scumlean

for stupidity):

Albert B. Rampage

- Weakly confirmed via 183, ISO looks promising

ManWithNoName

- Actually does town things unlike the rest of the town.

Starbuck

- Few posts, but those posts are town mindset.

Tayl0r Swift

- Allegedly confirmed, but I'm not holding my breath unless Albert backs Tayl0r's confirmation (in 284) up.

PenguinPower

- Seems very low effort but there is still a veil of effort towniness.

samantha97

- Towniest post is a claim ledger which isn't markedly towny or something that scum can't do. ISO is mostly just chaff.

Battle Mage

- Not posted yet, and neither has Sirius. The definition of

hard null

.

Lucky2u

- Has done nothing but indirectly bring light to some GIM shenanigans.

PlusJOYED

- Deathless survivor who has both townsided and scumsided.

Nono

- Has done literally nothing but vote Albert and say they want to hammer. Seems extremely lurky to me.

Galron

- You sound like a cultist, trying to be town but you hate my guts for my role claim.

DoubtingThomas

- Is hopelessly tunneled on me, but still willing to attack samantha because lul... that is what scum do. Also fakeclaimed a n0 result which is super scummy (I don't care that it provides "iNvEsTiGaTiVe CoVeR", you don't fakeclaim investigative results and get away with it)

this post is shit and i am shooting you

are you actually claiming vig over this? That seems like a terrible idea

you are scummy

[DoubtingThomas]

I don't scum read doubting thomas. The whole N0 thing is a non-starter imo

thank you town

[DoubtingThomas]

can go Doubting, don’t mind at all, think fake claim doesn’t make sense from town perspective,, and role was self claim, so it’s like self meta,, “convenient” “self manipulative” if you will,,

what is “sam 100% scum” etc what!!!!!!

bad

[DoubtingThomas]

i am shooting in plusjoyed/TL/Nono

gl

[DoubtingThomas]

If you are actually a vig I question your premature claim and I assert that I am town and I don't think my ability is worth using

it's not premature if i fucking yelled at all of you constantly saying faking n0 is not scummy. so why you lying? daddy gunlord must punish you at night, huh? pow pow

[DoubtingThomas]

Wait so, Mathblade replaced Battle Mage or Sirius? Because I'm pretty sure Battle Mage was never in this game and if he was I severely need clarification

anyone have meta on battle mage?

[DoubtingThomas]

VOTE: temporal lich
burn the lich!

this is my n0

Everyone's just voting DT based on this post

It's ridiculous

townsiding hard, town

[DoubtingThomas]

I think we should go doubting probably
probably scum

so bad

[DoubtingThomas]

if we go an inactive slot I think nono would be a good choice

ok

[DoubtingThomas]

Yeah, Mathblade is town.

why?

[DoubtingThomas]

What specifically? Right now this is you being lazy or you being a scum sheep like I taught you. I want to know which.

first of all tone down the cockiness. second of all neither. its the way you are that is pinging me as being the same. its the body of work, not a particular thing you said. you feel the same. and who would i be sheeping exactly? TL my scumread?

i can buy this. melding with tayl0r on scum!math

[DoubtingThomas]

VOTE: sugarmama

[DoubtingThomas]

i dont get the sam thing. lol

[DoubtingThomas]

is 'hurt' supposed to be some sort of imaginary vote on who people want me to vig? uh can someone count everything up and organize that?

[DoubtingThomas]

VOTE: sugarmama

VOTE: mathblade

[DoubtingThomas]

i could hammer, but i could wait what do people want

for the people, of the people, by the people

[DoubtingThomas]

anything you wanna say before i vig you, mafiablade?

[DoubtingThomas]

should i hammer?

[DoubtingThomas]

oh ok

[DoubtingThomas]

anything you wanna say before i vig you, mafiablade?

You’re being an idiot if you do but luckily it causes exactly 0 problems so go ahead and idiot.

sweet dreams at night

[DoubtingThomas]

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[DoubtingThomas]

good bye mathblade

[DoubtingThomas]

Is there some sort of executioner that TL rolled and is trying real hard to get Tayl0r eliminated now? This seems real faked.

Here he is talking about an executioner

He was my target

He is the alien combiner and he hammered me

what does alien combiner do

[DoubtingThomas]

who is NK

[DoubtingThomas]

good bye mathblade

Very likely see you tomorrow.

If you flip assassin I will consider it.

what's your role?

[DoubtingThomas]

who is NK

NIGHTKILL NWNN

he's a 3p tho. who cares

[DoubtingThomas]

anything you wanna say before i vig you, mafiablade?

You’re being an idiot if you do but luckily it causes exactly 0 problems so go ahead and idiot.

sweet dreams at night

Cool

Gut read is Sam DGB and DT if he kills me
If he doesn’t kill me y’all know what to do.

what are we doing? lol a town vig shot scummy ass slot who cares

[DoubtingThomas]

nah

[DoubtingThomas]

name 5 people i shoud shoot out of then

[DoubtingThomas]

are you Alien 1-shot Deathproof?

[DoubtingThomas]

Sam, Taylor, lucky2u (I don’t remember them posting recently), TL, and if DGB is neut assassin MWNN.

But I still think you’re scum or tunneled on me so this is dumb.

how about nono and plusyjoyed

[DoubtingThomas]

are you Alien 1-shot Deathproof?

Oooh nice fish.

You really should reread my ISO because you’re not even being smart about it.

this reaction is dumb for someone who apparently thinks i am a scum

[DoubtingThomas]

why do you think i am scum or town tunneleed on you? i barely even like pushed you this game besides saying i am gonna shoot you which could be empty or not. i wouldnt call that tunnel especially if i said i am shooting out of X pool initially

[DoubtingThomas]

are you Alien 1-shot Deathproof?

Oooh nice fish.

You really should reread my ISO because you’re not even being smart about it.

this reaction is dumb for someone who apparently thinks i am a scum

It’s really not.

Scum have been fishing me and pushing me all game. What you did whatever your alignment is fishing.

The last line applies if you’re town.

i am fucking town and i think you initially town reading me and then that read evaporating after i said you are scummy and i wanna shoot you is extremely scummy

[DoubtingThomas]

bye bye mathblade

[DoubtingThomas]

HURT: PlusJoy

Time to test their immunity claim imho.
I find it BS but if they live cool.

what changed about plusjoyed

[DoubtingThomas]

Seems counterintuitive to good scum play.

her play is trash

I can’t find a scum game to support that. The account does seem pretty new though.

I could see a TL town DT town
Sam + Taylor bit.

VOTE: Sam
HURT: Taylor

what changed for TL? you now scum read them

[DoubtingThomas]

i dont want to shoot just so your reads can be validated

[DoubtingThomas]

nono

[DoubtingThomas]

i got arbitrated

[DoubtingThomas]

my vig didnt go off. it wasnt on mathblade

[DoubtingThomas]

my vig didnt go off. it wasnt on mathblade

Are you sure it didn’t go off? Maybe you were redirected to PP?

could be actually yea. that was my first guess