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VOTE: Guillotina

Looks like a new player pretending to be experienced

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@Muh316 What made you think they were a new player pretending to be experienced?

The part where he's called himself the god of mafia and his entrance looks so scripted.

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Also, it's pretty clear he read the wiki on his role and is going off of that https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... lay_Advice

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Nero 3:16 says I just eliminated your ass!


VOTE: muh316

VOTE: Nero I thought we were out of RVS

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this isn't an RVS. I just said it in a humorous way. Why fid you vote me?

It felt like you were trying to encourage more RVS which isn't towny at all.

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b/c it kinda feels like you saw the vote on you and reacted to it but you aren't really paying attention to the thread b/c I think 129 sorta contridicts your reason for voting me.

Saying "I like x as scum" isn't really much of a reason. I perceived it as you just doubling down on your initial RVS vote.

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muh, comments on guillotina? Seems like you were sussing them earlier

I was suspicious of him because his behavior seems very scripted to me. But the claim seems believable enough that there's no reason to further pursue.

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you're right. Saying "I like x as scum" isn't a reason at all but saying "I like x as scum" means it wasn't an RVS vote. Wich is my point.

Different interpretations I guess. The initial vote seemed to me like it was done in jest, and I felt like you were doubling down on that when you said you like me as scum.

So why did you choose my "RVS" vote over two ACTUAL RVS votes?

Because you voted me so it caught my attention more.

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so basically you are admitting to what I am accusing you of-not paying attention to the game.

The way I read a game is I skim over the unread posts and first respond to things related directly to me. Then I try to re-read later on when my brain is ready to process the other things going on.

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What do you mean by "scripted"?

It's apparent you wanted to make a grand entrance into the game with your persona. So the tone is overly dramatic.

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I'm super dramatic and I got a big ass ego. How is that alignment indicative?

Given it's D1, we need something to get the game going which is why I pushed you a bit on it.

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even when muh is active in the thread i still dont realize muh is posting. maybe the avatar makes the posts invisible (speaking of gamma i miss the old one).
VOTE: muh

What amazing contributions have you given to the game?

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even when muh is active in the thread i still dont realize muh is posting. maybe the avatar makes the posts invisible (speaking of gamma i miss the old one).
VOTE: muh

What amazing contributions have you given to the game?

have you seen my avatar?

I'mma let you finish, but Beyoncé had one of the best videos of all time! One of the best videos of all time!

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Is there a particular purpose to that habit? Does it have an inherent advantage to you?

If I'm reading conversations between others, it takes me longer to read through them and process what's going on. Responding to something directly related to me is much easier since I already have the context.

The only advantage it has for me is it helps me avoid prods. Otherwise, I feel like it's worked against me for the most part since it makes me lazy.

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I'm super dramatic and I got a big ass ego. How is that alignment indicative?

Given it's D1, we need something to get the game going which is why I pushed you a bit on it.

Pushing for something that is NAI is how you usually get the game going? Or just in this game?

I play with multiple year long breaks so I can't really speak on my meta. But coupled with the role claim and the flavor text, you seemed like a good target to generate conversation.

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you seemed like a good target to generate conversation.

why did guillo seem like a good target for conversation? and what did you learn from those conversations?

I literally said it in the part you didn't quote. What I learned from the conversation is that we're out of RVS

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are we really saying that its muh/tay tay and ????/???? on p12? No way my luck is that good.

You're right, your luck isn't that good.

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Except nobody's forgot about me and I'm the top wagon at the moment.

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Except nobody's forgot about me and I'm the top wagon at the moment.

why is it exactly that you are still doing nothing in this game?

There's nothing for me to do yet

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muh316-felt early gul vote was go with the flow and scummy. thought his reaction and justification for this reaction was scummy

So you thought my reasoning for the vote was scummy. My reason was that Guillotina was a noob pretending to be experienced.

In response to Guillotina you said the same thing. So how exactly is my reason scummy when you just agreed with what I said.

this is nooby hubris. i think.

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i mean, in fairness muh could just have not gotten online but him lurking off his wagon as scum certainly seems like a possibility

I work 9-5 and I sometimes check this site on my phone, but I hate typing replies on mobile.

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ABR please. There had been a lot of content up to that point. Saying there's nothing to do is just an excuse both town or scum make because they are lazy.

There's literally nothing notable except my wagon and Guillotinas flavor text. There's the glitch wagon but Glitch hasn't posted since that wagon formed on him.

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there's also some interesting tay-nero interactions imo. thoughts on those? what about how ABR has defended you?

The tay-nero interaction definitely doesn't come across as TvT. It's just a vibe I got from it.

ABR's defense of me is a good read which I had hoped others would have picked up. That doesn't necessarily mean he's town though.

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Also, if there was something notable going on we would have had a lot more than a wagon on me and glitch. The past few pages all seem like fluff to me.

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nc, nee, ge,, hard town

So basically the three people that have the highest number of posts in this game. Is that your criteria for towniness?

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not for alignment, read order
am biased in favor of activity tho
guil is town for me, iv too

By that criteria you're most likely to be scum then

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nc, nee, ge,, hard town

So basically the three people that have the highest number of posts in this game. Is that your criteria for towniness?

Okay. Rather than smack you senseless for this, I’ll ask about it. Do you legitimately think scum is in there rn? If so, whom? If not, what’s the point of this?

Yes, I have a vote on someone in that list. The point of this is to get more out of someone that hasn't contributed and shows up 33 pages later with townreads on the three players with the most activity. He could have literally just gone to the activity tab and sorted by posts and listed his town reads. It's low effort and that should mean something coming from me.

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If you think we’re wrong to push you, why do you think it’s happening?

I don't think it's wrong to push me. Go for it. I just know there's scum on the wagon since my playstyle makes me a great candidate for LHF.

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Interesting sentiment. Is there anyone here who knows your nature?

I played a game with ABR about 10 years ago here's the link https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=12807 (this is sarcasm btw)
There's Umlaut but he's modding the game that I'm playing in so I doubt he can talk about that.

I feel like this site has erupted with people who revel in their limbait status rather than seeing it as something to cast off. It’s kinda sickening and when it’s this prevalent I feel like it makes games way harder for town, as you have about as many scummy town as you do scum if not more, which makes finding the proper bad guys harder.

Not everyone on your team is going to be Kobe Bryant. You'll have a Kwame Brown in there too. I'm not reveling in the fact that I play bad, I know I play bad, but I enjoy playing the game. My bad play however leads to me becoming a target early in the game.

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Scum suspects on my wagon, Nero and Glitch.

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In post 809, muh316 wrote:
I don't think it's wrong to push me.

if you are town then you are 100% the wrong wagon. Arguing that you are town but its ok to wagon you is

You're putting words in my mouth. Wagoning and pushing are two different things. Pushing me will allow players to gauge my alignment in this game.

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like, a scum Muh goes "The tay-nero interaction definitely doesn't come across as TvT." b/c he knows tay is scum so he's being factually correct.

No because I'm unsure whether to label it SvT or SvS since I don't have a strong scumlean or townlean Taylor.

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if its a tay-nero interaction then it feels like you are calling me town b/c you said "I'm unsure whether to label it SvT" Why is the S on Tays side and the T on my side?

Do I really need to explain this to you? I wasn't putting the S or T on any side in respect to "tay-nero". S comes before T in the English alphabet, therefore when speaking in generic terms, it flows better to put the S before the T.

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how come you are scumreading me and you don't think taylor is town?

I'm having a hard time reading taylor.

You on the other hand are posting a lot of fluff and manipulating player's words to fit your own narrative. 180+ posts and yet the only thing you've produced is a wagon on me and a back and forth with Taylor.

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well yes b/c he is scum but he also knows you are scum so....

Who is this directed at?

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they were like such an angry edgy teen early on and now he's playing like a normal mafia plater?

Maybe i got a split personality disorder or maybe God of Mafia is just a persona.

Or you figured you should get your act together before you're lynched on D1.

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Lol I thought y'all had killed me without asking for a claim. Glad to be alive.

VOTE: Pretentious

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How tf do we have 20 pages in a span of a few hours. Anybody got a tl;dr?

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So turns out Guillotina is not the only annoying player in the game. I skimmed a couple of pages, looks like a bunch of shitposting to me.

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So turns out Guillotina is not the only annoying player in the game. I skimmed a couple of pages, looks like a bunch of shitposting to me.

LOL the irony in this post

At least I don't try to come off as the God of Mafia.

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VOTE: Guillotina

Not buying the claim.

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VOTE: Non lmh
This slot has been avoiding the conversation for a long time and has managed to dodge replacement.

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don't know about that muh guy but i have a person pushing someone who is dead null after 109 pages
i will vote for that person
VOTE: muh

So one inactive person defending another inactive person. Nice.

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Sorry about inactivity, I have a bunch of stuff going on IRL. I'll try to catch up tomorrow.