Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

[Cabd]

Let us not wallow in the valley of apathy, I say to you today, my friends.

And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the Mafiascum dream.

I have a dream that one day this thread will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We found scum."

I have a dream that one day on the mafsepia hills of Theme Park, the sons of former red role PMs and the sons of former third parties will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the subforum of Coney Island, a subforum sweltering with the heat of scumfucks, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice and town wins.

I have a dream that my daughter will one day join the site, and live in a Theme Park where she will not be judged by the color of their role PM, but by the content of her shitposting.

I have a dream today!

VOTE: Bell

[Cabd]

Cobra Kai's main is 420 Blaze it.

p-edit: Lady the 1st is too purdyful to be scum.

[Cabd]

Cool midway is town. The rest of you can try to keep up lmao.

[Cabd]

Page count: 2/60

I have decided to spurn the advances of both ffery and syr and sort that abomination entirely via Tammy. No pressure, Tammy!

[Cabd]

No advances for you, Scumd.

No tablecrumbs either.

-strange

I don't need any table crumbs this game.

I don't want gamma emerald to be sad and feel disappointment with me, it really matters.

Maybe I'll tread new territory!

Maybe you'll ever catch up in the arms race!

It remains to be seen.

[Cabd]

I'm gonna ACTUALLY stick with my midwaybear town read this time.

150%

Midway, you've got a day three ticket. Use it wisely.

[Cabd]

I could've sworn I asked Bork to be masons with Cabd this game.

Dude. Did bork not send you our PT?

Spoiler: Cabd and Skies Masonry

Just post in here, fuck the main game thread they can be jelly of us. And our beacon of towniness.

[Cabd]

NO NO NO FUCK THAT BACK THE FUCK OFF ON CLAIMING BLADE OR DRIVER

[Cabd]

NO NO NO FUCK THAT BACK THE FUCK OFF ON CLAIMING BLADE OR DRIVER

I refuse to believe that either Penguin or Bork didn't give scum a giant flashy neon role that benefits from knowing who is driver/blade.

[Cabd]

Yeah Cabd is my Blade and I am a Driver we have weird role where we always have to link

lol cabd want to comment?

Actually, yes.

VOTE: Cake

Serious vote.

[Cabd]

NO NO NO FUCK THAT BACK THE FUCK OFF ON CLAIMING BLADE OR DRIVER

Reasoning?

spin and strange spent the night discussing if/what/when to claim. Discussion was inconclusive.

- strange

No. I'm not gonna talk my reasonings out yet.

Later.

Maybe in the dead PT when I eat the N1 NK.

[Cabd]

You tried.

[Cabd]

With your slip, yes, with your vote and heart? Maybe not!

[Cabd]

Cakes, I, and a lot of the deathy, townread you in antechamber. This is NOT what I'm feeling here.

I am probably gonna have to do meta homework before surgery now, ugh, gods.

[Cabd]

Yeah Cabd is my Blade and I am a Driver we have weird role where we always have to link

If this is true, then that explains why Cabd didn't subscribe to D1 Cakez lolwagon.

Unless you're both just scum, but let's not go there just yet.

I'm srsvoting cakes though?

Not lolwagon. Serious vote.

[Cabd]

I was considering not having this conversation but I am going to do it anyway.

Why is claiming sub optimal?
Either select drivers should claim so we can get some amount of actions going through or we should full claim and organize the largest amount of actions possible.

Let's say hypothetically me and firebringer agree to connect up. Then there is a 50% chance we share the same trait as a driver/blade and we do nothing.
Idk do you think scum have such strong anti claim tools we should just throw away actions?

Because scum almost certainly have a role that states something like "You can pick a player and if they are a blade XYZ SUPERBAD STUFF HAPPENZ"

[Cabd]

I was considering not having this conversation but I am going to do it anyway.

Why is claiming sub optimal?
Either select drivers should claim so we can get some amount of actions going through or we should full claim and organize the largest amount of actions possible.

Let's say hypothetically me and firebringer agree to connect up. Then there is a 50% chance we share the same trait as a driver/blade and we do nothing.
Idk do you think scum have such strong anti claim tools we should just throw away actions?

Because scum almost certainly have a role that states something like "You can pick a player and if they are a blade XYZ SUPERBAD STUFF HAPPENZ"

I would literally rather rely on blind pairing luck than this shit day one. Massclaim is gonna be a TERRIBLE look, if we go that route, bad shit's gonna happen. I don't like bad shit happening.

[Cabd]

I was considering not having this conversation but I am going to do it anyway.

Why is claiming sub optimal?
Either select drivers should claim so we can get some amount of actions going through or we should full claim and organize the largest amount of actions possible.

Let's say hypothetically me and firebringer agree to connect up. Then there is a 50% chance we share the same trait as a driver/blade and we do nothing.
Idk do you think scum have such strong anti claim tools we should just throw away actions?

Because scum almost certainly have a role that states something like "You can pick a player and if they are a blade XYZ SUPERBAD STUFF HAPPENZ"

I would literally rather rely on blind pairing luck than this shit day one. Massclaim is gonna be a TERRIBLE look, if we go that route, bad shit's gonna happen. I don't like bad shit happening.

Your lack of concern about receiving a naked townread from the notoriously paranoid head is noted.

more votes for gamma please

Reasonings? I have some concerns in that direction, as well as in Firebringer's.
~strange

Do you WANT me to be paranoid about your ability to get it right?

I already told you I'll worry about tammy and you two can go play with the rest of the thread.

[Cabd]

Something is seriously wrong with the way the cake is opening this game.

I am currently driving so you're going to have to settle for the dump of voice to text but I can't place my finger on it but there's something really weird and evil in the way he's trying to be too light-hearted about this including his own wagon I really don't want this series of votes on him to get written off as RVS shenanigans I want it made explicitly clear that I have a actual genuine read that is beneath 50/50 rand on his alignment

[Cabd]

If nothing else my play in anti-chamber and in illicit has shown me that I should listen to my gut more often and stick to my guns so I intend to do exactly that let the town eat cake

[Cabd]

Something is seriously wrong with the way the cake is opening this game.

I am currently driving

so you're going to have to settle for the dump of voice to text but I can't place my finger on it but there's something really weird and evil in the way he's trying to be too light-hearted about this including his own wagon I really don't want this series of votes on him to get written off as RVS shenanigans I want it made explicitly clear that I have a actual genuine read that is beneath 50/50 rand on his alignment

LOL nice crumb

Welcome to day three

[Cabd]

i am way too smooth brain to understand what everyone is saying right now if ill be completely honest but i think we could use a list of people whove claimed (not specific claims, not necessary) and try reading people within the list

Do you have any completed games either here or on other sites or is this pretty much you just jumping in for it right into the deep end?

[Cabd]

I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm pretty sure I don't need the metabinder this game.
7 long years grinding out meta reads and I think I've finally gotten intuition that I can trust.
I've got four town reads that I feel comfortable taking with me today three at the absolute bare bones minimum

[Cabd]

i am way too smooth brain to understand what everyone is saying right now if ill be completely honest but i think we could use a list of people whove claimed (not specific claims, not necessary) and try reading people within the list

Do you have any completed games either here or on other sites or is this pretty much you just jumping in for it right into the deep end?

haha this is just a strategy ive used before

narrowing down the list of people i need to think about really helps my performance

i am way too smooth brain to understand what everyone is saying right now if ill be completely honest but i think we could use a list of people whove claimed (not specific claims, not necessary) and try reading people within the list

I claimed BLADE

(not specific claims, not necessary)

Okay so you've played elsewhere but not here is that correct? Humor me I promise I'm going somewhere with this

[Cabd]

Like I know I'm going to get bone graft set up in my mouth during my surgery Wednesday but like clearly I got extra bone grafts into my spine and it feels amazing

[Cabd]

L4pe, midway, battlemage, skies are invited to day three. Fucking fite me.

[Cabd]

L4pe, midway, battlemage, skies are invited to day three. Fucking fite me.

i don't have a car, can you take me there?

Sorry but I'm booked solid for night one I'd more than happy to get you from day two today three though but the love of my life already has me first

[Cabd]

excessive posting is antitown

weird thinking

the more someone posts the more reliable your read is on them

even if the content is irrelevant you can still read someone for posting garbage

im not sure why youd want to prevent people from doing this

i always feels it weird when people comment on peoples thinking when they say things like "posting too much is anti town" when it doesnt seem like a post u cn really read intent to but it doesnt look like ur reading intent. Idk weird out of place commentary to me. Maybe i am a hypocrite trying to read into a persons post about why someone would do that. Inception style.

i want a dialogue

it will give me a read

You make consider me pocketed

[Cabd]

L4pe, midway, battlemage, skies are invited to day three. Fucking fite me.

i don't have a car, can you take me there?

Sorry but I'm booked solid for night one I'd more than happy to get you from day two today three though but the love of my life already has me first

you dont expect them to be alive past night 1?

This gets in the set of spec that I want to save for later but I think it's going to make sense to swap around partners quite a bit

[Cabd]

hey cabd, stop ignoring cakez. i want to see this slap fight.

Still driving around town making errand runs cakes deserves a keyboard and mouse for the glorious case wall that will become

[Cabd]

Cakez from the last game you played you weren't nearly as active.

he explained he just got out of other responsibilities because of covid lol. Did u read thaat

No probably not I go back to read a page then 5 more posts ping me

at least you dont have to worry about noraa in this game

Why not?

[Cabd]

noraa

She's in the player list?


Hello from the covid rapid testing line by the by.

[Cabd]

noraa

She's in the player list?

yeah?

So why say that noraa isn't worried about. Did I miss context?

[Cabd]

Ah okay.

Getting into why I thought it might be serious is bad an imma shut up about it nao.

[Cabd]

Abomination talk to me about Californian governors.

[Cabd]

Abomination talk to me about Californian governors.

Addressed to me?

It's one of those terrible reasons to townread that I like anyway. Given the game speed and density, there's a fair bit of thinking what I'm thinking when I'm thinking it.

jsyk I'm insulted.

~ strange

I can live with insulted. There are at least five slots townier than what appears to be your best efforts so far. Sixth place? You gonna settle for that shit?

[Cabd]

Holy fuck its already page 18?

Don't worry there's plenty of readable content. Catch up fast and then you can vote cake with me.

[Cabd]

NoName might just be like this and I doubt he cares if I'm voting him

VOTE: midwaybear

This however

God damn I hate when my town reads don't love each other.

[Cabd]

After 15 Pages:

cabd
firebringer
L4pe
Fermis Flames

mebbe town
midwaybear

less town
*manwithnoname

Not a Fan
Guillotina

Mebbe Scum
Gamma

Antitown, but is it scum?
Battlemage

Endorse but battlemage belongs in midwaybear tier.

[Cabd]

NoName might just be like this and I doubt he cares if I'm voting him

VOTE: midwaybear

This however

God damn I hate when my town reads don't love each other.

You are doing a hell of a lot better at swiming through the data stream than I am.

I'll try to see what you're seeing when I give up on realtime and start rereading.

~ strange

Feel like I've ascended to a higher plane of confident reading.

[Cabd]

Pretty sure Noraa is actual scum here, guys.

Yeah?


I'm interested. Sell me.

[Cabd]

Page 20 of 60. I've got a solid town pile.

When I get to a keyboard we get to party abomination. All three heads are invited it's time to write another chapter book but without midwayscum in it this time because he's town this game.

[Cabd]

I'm sorry this game has been active for an hour and has 20 pages?

Haaaaa

It's cool lady the first. You can just sheep me to victory until we get our dance PT.

[Cabd]

Her entrance this game seems like she’s trying to revert back to RVS, which fine, she basically made it clear she was doing that, but she made an entrance looking to become center of attention for being goofy, as soon as I voted her, she disappeared, if only for a few minutes.

However, I don’t feel like she was as genuine in that spot here, and it feels like she’s trying to force her way into playing how she thinks she would play as scum.

Her small disappearance just feels really scummy. I don’t have that much to go off of, but in a game where we’ve all been still playing around, hers looks like she’s actively trying to fit in.

Just my thoughts off her entrance. Way too early, but I’m definitely going to be focusing here for a bit, albeit under the radar. Trying to not talk too much until I really have something to say,

Jesus fuck. You're town again aren't you. Aggghhh and I wanted glorious wagon scum you to death endorphins.

[Cabd]

I'm sorry this game has been active for an hour and has 20 pages?

Haaaaa

It's cool lady the first. You can just sheep me to victory until we get our dance PT.

If you sheeped me last game the game would've been over much sooner Gentleman the 6th. But it could be possible to still pair up this game~

Yeah my bad. But here we can do it again. Maybe.

[Cabd]

Her entrance this game seems like she’s trying to revert back to RVS, which fine, she basically made it clear she was doing that, but she made an entrance looking to become center of attention for being goofy, as soon as I voted her, she disappeared, if only for a few minutes.

However, I don’t feel like she was as genuine in that spot here, and it feels like she’s trying to force her way into playing how she thinks she would play as scum.

Her small disappearance just feels really scummy. I don’t have that much to go off of, but in a game where we’ve all been still playing around, hers looks like she’s actively trying to fit in.

Just my thoughts off her entrance. Way too early, but I’m definitely going to be focusing here for a bit, albeit under the radar. Trying to not talk too much until I really have something to say,

Jesus fuck. You're town again aren't you. Aggghhh and I wanted glorious wagon scum you to death endorphins.

See, i was town reading you until you made this post.

I’m gonna actively try not to push you until at least Day 3, just because I know if we’re both town we’re gonna eventually have to deal with the paranoia of us swooping by each other.

And by then, maybe you’ll have caught a scum or one of us just get night killed.

The game’s fast enough as is.

I already caught scum. It's cakes. Like this is the confidence level of about as high as my scumreads get.

[Cabd]

wish i could townread gamma for his aggro but it feels a little bit performative here

Mood

[Cabd]

wish i could townread gamma for his aggro but it feels a little bit performative here

Mood

But like uh. Does gamma do that as scum after diamond scum fails that route hard?

[Cabd]

NoName might just be like this and I doubt he cares if I'm voting him

VOTE: midwaybear

This however

God damn I hate when my town reads don't love each other.

You are doing a hell of a lot better at swiming through the data stream than I am.

I'll try to see what you're seeing when I give up on realtime and start rereading.

~ strange

You should get on this or you're gonna get a giant brick wall of reads from me with little to no space to breathe before you have to agree.

[Cabd]

Chapter writing when kiddo falls asleep at this rate. Covid testing line is foreeeeeever.

[Cabd]

Yesssss cakes is still scum.


Justice wagon fucking ho

[Cabd]

Gamma. I get it man.

Pretend like you're in a pt with some of your town reads instead.

[Cabd]

Seriously you two. Get a PT.

It's not advancing wincon.

[Cabd]

Why is Cakez scum again? I was voting him for his entry, but his blunt posting as of right now isn't really pinging me one way or the other.

I'll write a wall if you give me your vote as down payment.

[Cabd]

{Fermis, Midway, Skies, L4pe}

{Battlemage, Maria}

{Leaf, unwnd, Regan, Guillotina}

{Gamma, Fire}

~~~~~Elimination Limbo Pole~~~~~~

[Cabd]

What do you mean, what happened?

[Cabd]

NoName might just be like this and I doubt he cares if I'm voting him

VOTE: midwaybear

This however

God damn I hate when my town reads don't love each other.

This?

~ strange

Yes, they're both townreads of varying scales, and one voted the other and was sadz... Not sure what you're getting at here?

[Cabd]

I kinda like Noraa rn but it’s still quite early wrt reading her

What content here is it that you like? Asking for a friend

the vast majority are... chatty.

Cobra out here exposing my true nature. How dare you.
VOTE: Cobra

Holy fuck its already page 18?

*rubs my glasses furiously*
no
effing
way

Did I miss RVS?
NoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO

Sorry Cabd, no can do. I just got out of class and chem is starting in *squints* 5 minutes :/
After that .......... endless loads of chem hw and I have ten minute piece to memorize. god. fuck me.

>:(

woah there. That is MY emoji. it be copyrighted >:(

ok I'll catch up after chem. c everyone laters.

[Cabd]

I kinda like Noraa rn but it’s still quite early wrt reading her

how do you have anything positive on her, and why mention this now

Too slow noob. I reserved this line of questioning first.

[Cabd]

What do you make of her posting right now in every game except this one, then, Gamma?

[Cabd]

I have to admit, fferytammysyr, your reaction to my reads fell really flat.

And I'm kinda sad about that.

[Cabd]

Oh shit does LLD have a posting restriction?

[Cabd]

I have to admit, fferytammysyr, your reaction to my reads fell really flat.

And I'm kinda sad about that.

I'm in the middle of a reread right now. Syr scummoned me to look at LLD posts and I find this awaiting me.

Your reads list mostly doesn't bother me. Just about everyone I'm townreading is on it. Along with a couple not-town-reads that I'm hoping I understand better after rereading. And you moved us up for reasons unknown.

In fact this post is the first post by you that's actually raised my hackles.

I thought your day 3 ticket was punched. :/

~ strange

What do you think I meant by "Sad"?

[Cabd]

the entire game

{Fermis, Midway, Skies, L4pe}

{Battlemage, Maria}

{Leaf, unwnd, Regan, Guillotina}

{

Gamma

, Fire}

~~~~~Elimination Limbo Pole~~~~~~

[Cabd]

I have to admit, fferytammysyr, your reaction to my reads fell really flat.

And I'm kinda sad about that.

I'm in the middle of a reread right now. Syr scummoned me to look at LLD posts and I find this awaiting me.

Your reads list mostly doesn't bother me. Just about everyone I'm townreading is on it. Along with a couple not-town-reads that I'm hoping I understand better after rereading. And you moved us up for reasons unknown.

In fact this post is the first post by you that's actually raised my hackles.

I thought your day 3 ticket was punched. :/

~ strange

What do you think I meant by "Sad"?

I think the game has moved on well past the point where I am getting any additional traction on cakes without casewalling, I had hoped to catch you "in the minute" and we could do the brick-wall-buildy thing, but I'm sad because that didn't happen.

I don't like the Gamma wagon. I think the frustration is genuine AND alignment indicative.

[Cabd]

just feels townie. going in all guns blazing, inviting the heat. I love it!

Welcome to LLD.

That's kind of her whole thing.

[Cabd]

I'm not up for trying to follow your convolutions right now. I want to call it a night and I haven't even had dinner.

I'm about 2/3 way through my reread. Still not liking firebringer and still don't know why he's above your line. I'd like to understand that.

Then sleep and we can totes do this tomorrow. If you decide you want to talk FB today after all instead of sleep then so be it, let me know.

Just please keep townreading me enough to keep your vote on cakez. That shit is flipping scum, I am 100% calling my shot. Thanks in advance.

[Cabd]

Flavor, how do you feel about people not named noraa lately?

[Cabd]

I'm not up for trying to follow your convolutions right now. I want to call it a night and I haven't even had dinner.

I'm about 2/3 way through my reread. Still not liking firebringer and still don't know why he's above your line. I'd like to understand that.

Then sleep and we can totes do this tomorrow. If you decide you want to talk FB today after all instead of sleep then so be it, let me know.

Just please keep townreading me enough to keep your vote on cakez. That shit is flipping scum, I am 100% calling my shot. Thanks in advance.

You're that confident? He sounds similar to me so far.

I am that fucking confident.

I can't explain it but it's the exact same feel I had on you in the fakegod game. Or midway in illicit.

[Cabd]

I lied. Im not reading up today. Too many pages. Someone talk to me. I'm here.

Vote cakez.

And I'll carry us to victory.

[Cabd]

Do I get some green apple candies?

You get a day one scumflip AND crabapples. They're bitter but that's the appeal.

[Cabd]

I'm not up for trying to follow your convolutions right now. I want to call it a night and I haven't even had dinner.

I'm about 2/3 way through my reread. Still not liking firebringer and still don't know why he's above your line. I'd like to understand that.

Then sleep and we can totes do this tomorrow. If you decide you want to talk FB today after all instead of sleep then so be it, let me know.

Just please keep townreading me enough to keep your vote on cakez. That shit is flipping scum, I am 100% calling my shot. Thanks in advance.

You're that confident? He sounds similar to me so far.

I am that fucking confident.

I can't explain it but it's the exact same feel I had on you in the fakegod game. Or midway in illicit.

If this is a "trust me" read that's enough for now, I guess. But if you want to talk about it I want to hear.

I want to go to bed, but it's not going to happen for a while.

Other topic of interest: Firebringer.

I want to pull a muffin and say "I don't wanna case him anymore but trust"

But that may not be enough, depending.

We can talk firebringer, sure.

[Cabd]

I'm not town.

Those damn death millers running around, grrr.

[Cabd]

I mean it's very obviously muffin.

He should vote cakez and continue sheeping me to victory a la illicit.

[Cabd]

gut townvibes from LLD open

VOTE: Gamma

Explicitly untrue, scumbutt.

[Cabd]

Like I'm tired of having kickass day one scumreads and never getting it through because other shininess.

This is my

², Zanza, Bionis Aligned Odd-Night Ability Cop, was lynched Day 1.

[Cabd]

Like I'm tired of having kickass day one scumreads and never getting it through because other shininess.

This is my

², Zanza, Bionis Aligned Odd-Night Ability Cop, was lynched Day 1.

You had to be beaten with an ugly stick to vote us. It was one of the lighter moments in that day 1!

~ strangelysquared

Yes. And now I have the goddamn stick.

[Cabd]

Like I'm tired of having kickass day one scumreads and never getting it through because other shininess.

This is my

², Zanza, Bionis Aligned Odd-Night Ability Cop, was lynched Day 1.

this is just a lie considering we got Taylo0r through in literally our last game together

I wanted Bell. Bell was indeed scum. We got taylor instead which on one hand yay, but on the other, getting Bell would have been sweeter because he was a suicide bomber and taylor was a boring traitor that I'd have vigged N1 for the deathy instead.

[Cabd]

@Cabd - i feel scum is definitely in those 3, i feel like this kind of thing gets pushed as all town wagons a lot, when i think there’s probably just a scum in there.

100%.

I don't think there's more than two... and I personally would call it scumcake and two town CWs. Gamma's the scum's chosen counterweight.

[Cabd]

We can discuss mechanics once the rest of the stragglers post enough alignment indicative content.

[Cabd]

@Cabd - i feel scum is definitely in those 3, i feel like this kind of thing gets pushed as all town wagons a lot, when i think there’s probably just a scum in there.

100%.

I don't think there's more than two... and I personally would call it scumcake and two town CWs. Gamma's the scum's chosen counterweight.

this doesnt add up though?

I am bad at math, but good at finding scum~

It's one scum two town, Gamma and yourself are the counterwagons to scumcake. That's my shot, I'm calling it, MILKSPINE.

[Cabd]

Do you not like the idea of pre-planned pairs, cabd? Would it be better if we had some way to circumvent outright claiming?

I don't, thanks for asking!

Claiming blade in this setup means claiming a power role, effectively, from my understanding.

Why would we ever claim the PR pool to public knowledge?

[Cabd]

Like I'm tired of having kickass day one scumreads and never getting it through because other shininess.

This is my

², Zanza, Bionis Aligned Odd-Night Ability Cop, was lynched Day 1.

You had to be beaten with an ugly stick to vote us. It was one of the lighter moments in that day 1!

~ strangelysquared

Yes. And now I have the goddamn stick.

So about that Firebringer talk.

Your certainty about Cakez makes Firebringer's fluffy Cakez defense a little less damning, maybe. But eww preflip associations. Do you think scum-Firebringer would behave this way around a Cakez wagon?

No, I don't, and if you don't trust me to the nine regarding cakes, my firebringer read won't be enough for you, either.

[Cabd]

Nora and Cakez need to stop obv scum theatring right now, though

Is this a serious accusation? Because I'm interested and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[Cabd]

I was thinking along the lines of give

everyone

a pool of 2 or 3 to target in. Everyone meaning everyone.

Now this is more up my alleyway. I am thinking something similar to this, yes.

I have shudders of fear of Marketplace Mafia III whenever I think to hard about forcing the issue, though.

[Cabd]

Cabd's right

Damn right I am.

[Cabd]

Nora and Cakez need to stop obv scum theatring right now, though

Is this a serious accusation? Because I'm interested and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

It’a serious, but in a dramatic dry kinda way where it’s tinfoil still, but paranoia takes over.

It basically means I’m getting off vibes in that general direction.

Good enough for government work today. I'll note it and one of us can bring it back up if it becomes relevant again, I guess.

[Cabd]

Do you not like the idea of pre-planned pairs, cabd? Would it be better if we had some way to circumvent outright claiming?

I don't, thanks for asking!

Claiming blade in this setup means claiming a power role, effectively, from my understanding.

Why would we ever claim the PR pool to public knowledge?

The pro side to claiming is that drivers and blades can use their powers, whereas they are more likely to incorrectly pair up if they don't claim.

Of course, this can lead to things like all the blades dying, but that takes multiple nights.

Personally, I don't think we should claim, but something to note: Now that multiple blades have claimed, drivers are overwhelmingly likely to target only those blades who have claimed, meaning any remaining blades who don't claim are effectively choosing to do nothing (I'm still not advocating for all blades to claim, there are alternate solutions to this, such as drivers not doubling up so hard on claimed blades)

True. But I think in some cases, given that the mods explicitly called out "Xshots don't get refunds" (which I take to mean pretty much every PR is gonna be gated somehow) and the size of the player list, that it might be okay to have some blades use bide and then hit night two with twice the effective power.

[Cabd]

He lifted not one finger to get Tayl0r elimed before we outed the Dethy. He had her in his elim pool, but she wasn't his priority.

Anyway, this is neither here nor there. The here and there are his scumread of you in this game.

dumb this down 50% and maybe I'll understand what ur saying.

Cabd have scumread.

FFery have scumread.

ffery get day one scum lynch.

Cabd sad because cabd scumread stronger role.

[Cabd]

Nora’s earlier lists.

I haven't given any reads lists.

Maybe they meant nautical listing. Are you in danger of tilting over and taking on sea water?

[Cabd]

He lifted not one finger to get Tayl0r elimed before we outed the Dethy. He had her in his elim pool, but she wasn't his priority.

Anyway, this is neither here nor there. The here and there are his scumread of you in this game.

dumb this down 50% and maybe I'll understand what ur saying.

Cabd have scumread.

FFery have scumread.

ffery get day one scum

lynch

.

Cabd sad because cabd scumread stronger role.

Ah fuck, brb slapping my own wrists.

[Cabd]

That's the best I've got for you and I'm amazed I'm there less than 24 hours into this game, but here we are.

Welcome to the 2020 edition of the arms race. Where we always draw fucking town and destroy scumfuckery day in day out?

[Cabd]

That's the best I've got for you and I'm amazed I'm there less than 24 hours into this game, but here we are.

Welcome to the 2020 edition of the arms race. Where we always draw fucking town and destroy scumfuckery day in day out?

It's like the cold war but then we made up and decided to launch all our nukes together at China.

[Cabd]

[Cabd]

Noraa does seem very meek this game. I would believe a Noraa scumflip regardless of Cakez alignment.

I once again am interested in this competing newsletter to the flavor leaf weekly.

[Cabd]

You know what does not spark joy in me Cabd?
Whenever you post and it's not your casewall

The real case wall is the friends and other reads we got along the way.

[Cabd]

When the three headed beast returns from breakfast for dinner, let's start talking potential pools, sure.

[Cabd]

breakfast for dinner

Which is explicitly different than Breakfast with Stalin.

[Cabd]

I have my own thoughts on how to relegate it as well.

Speak, friend, and enter.

[Cabd]

Every time you ask for the case wall? It gets 15 more minutes away.

You're caught scum desperate for a wall containing specific things you can argue against.

[Cabd]

I mean that's pretty much the path you have to take as scum here, so forgiven~

[Cabd]

Sorry Cabd I like you but I can't stand this playstyle and push from you

This is what I wish we'd been able to do to bell but NOOOOOOOO spayhalf had to step on my toes. My condolences for RNGesus' transgressions.

[Cabd]

Whatever I can't talk to you right now
Not really much of a point sorting you anyways

I understand the frustration, but this is the sort of thing where I'm not backing down.

[Cabd]

When the three headed beast returns from breakfast for dinner, let's start talking potential pools, sure.

I guess a quickhammer is not for the best.

I mean I don't actually mind this.

But the others want pools. I'd rather night one be a free for all if ya ask me.

[Cabd]

I feel like most slots have posted alignment indicative content and given the play size and base, capping day one under 60 pages is a-fucking-okay.

I think we don't need any more gamma-BM pillow fights.

I don't like that noname/Regan kinda dissipated into the void as the game went on but that might be time of day indicative not alignment indicative, will have to go look. Neither is in my limpool though. Noname is like hovery right above it, regan well soaring above it.

[Cabd]

Personally I'm fine with the second scenario but would like to avoid having more people claim.

Did you see my reasoning about X-shot roles?

[Cabd]

^^^That too~

[Cabd]

Like, what benefit does town get in knowing who each person is supposed to target each night?

The main benefit is that if there is an important power role who is a blade but hasn't claimed, they won't have to claim to have a chance to be targetted.

Because as I said, drivers are overwhelmingly likely to target people who have already claimed as blades. Unless we think drivers are more willing to target unclaimed targets?

Drivers don't have to visit anyone at all if they don't want to.

If a driver wants to visit, they should visit a townread of theirs and pray they didn't visit scum.

Grouping players off potentially forces drivers into visiting scum blades, giving the scumteam info on who those particular drivers are that they wouldn't otherwise have gotten.

Yeah I am coming around to this POV. Night one FFA, lolhammers ahoy.

[Cabd]

Don't worry about my role because I'm getting shot night one once cakes flips mafia, lmfao.

I don't need to find anyone to shitpost with.

[Cabd]

Spoiler: Gamma's special sekrit PT that doesn't involve battle mage at all

Drink your ovaltine. And flip cakez.

[Cabd]

Don't worry about my role because I'm getting shot night one once cakes flips mafia, lmfao.

I don't need to find anyone to shitpost with.

Cabd you are that certain cake will flip scum?

Site rules prevent me from expressing exactly how sure I am of my life decisions.

[Cabd]

hey fermis did u want to chat or did u just want to ask everyone else their opinions of me.

Your Cakez read trajectory looks so artificial I'm trying to figure which plastic bin to recycle it to.

~ strange

theres different plastic bins?
we only use one here!

She's from hippieland.

[Cabd]

I'm not sure the setup is entirely similar except for the visiting mechanic and I feel like I'm pushing back into a fog to try to understand this setup and how best to use the mechanics.

FWIW...


I do think that the Brian skies route is the way to go night one, and revisit night two. Please keep your hands, feet, and setup spec inside the PT at all times while the ride is in motion.

[Cabd]

I uh was actually talking about the one against making avatar bets.

But yeah mooooooving along.

[Cabd]

Cabd used a word that while I don’t remember exactly what, I know it is crumbing SOMETHING

Yeah let's not discuss this anymore. It can be a day two topic.

[Cabd]

VOTE: Cakez
Signal received
I’m curious why Cakez tried to claim what he did thought given that

this wagon is garbage. no resistance whatsoever. people joining for the stupidest half assed reasons possible(ok ik imma hypocrite. I joined for a bad reason too) but still. this is ridiculous.
UNVOTE:

Noraa... Come clean to me, lass. Are you trying to derail my cakez scumwagon?

[Cabd]

Side note, are scum fakeclaims likely to be something in particular or just normal characters turned red?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p5420414

True name mafia, with a town aligned name that isn't in the setup as a safeclaim.

[Cabd]

FLAVOR LEAF GET YOUR ASS IN HERE I THINK YOUR FEVER DREAM IS TRUE MAN

[Cabd]

Like we're all seeing this right?

Noraa is trying to dismantle the wagon on cakez to save him.


NORAAAAAAAAAAAAA you were supposed to be town and sheep to victory.

[Cabd]

Yeah, we should make Cabd put in work for this Cakez hang.

I REALLY don't want to burn tells when enough people see it that I don't have to.

Why exactly do you want me to burn it?

[Cabd]

Like we're all seeing this right?

Noraa is trying to dismantle the wagon on cakez to save him.


NORAAAAAAAAAAAAA you were supposed to be town and sheep to victory.

I called it first, for the record.

Granted.

[Cabd]

I keep forgetting you don't know 20102 speak, midway, I'm sorry.

I'll let ffery explain what I mean for me.

[Cabd]

Speaking of which, I don't like my current vote anymore, but don't really know who to vote for

Go back to cakez.

Or like, I dunno, flounce onto Noraa and we can go noraa into cakez instead. (Don't do this)

But really cakez is the lockscum, noraa is the "might be scum partner trying to save" read.

[Cabd]

This game is insane. The wagon is garbage but everyones looking at it like its a hunk of gold. There is nothing to it except that Cabd suggested it. Everyones acting like Cabd's some hot shot expert soul reading scum hunter.

this is actually just stupid. I'm going back to hibernation.

He has his days! I am pretty sure this game day is one of them.

His reads were quicker and better than mine in our last 2 games. Sometimes you come out of retirement with hot jets.

Ironic that I usually make the "my title is there for a reason" joke but my title has nothing to do with it this time!

[Cabd]

But then again there's a LOT of RNGesus irony abound in this game, apparently.

[Cabd]

Yeah, you do that a lot.

Hi Bell!

Get off your shit wagon on town ffery and get on this old that's new again hotness scumflip wagon.

[Cabd]

I'm actually slightly townreading Nora's apprehensiveness with this wagon.

See I might buy that but I ascribe much more "go with the flow and see where it leads" to my town noraa model. Now mind you it's not a perfect model, but... See custom title.

[Cabd]

I’ve been voting cakes for a while cabd.
Pay attn.

Right but like you could totes mcgoats unvote and revote to make it seem like it has extra momentum.

It's fun!

[Cabd]

I'm sticking to my slight townread though unless given a reason otherwise.

We can talk about it down the road with new data.

I don't mind hearing alternate angles about Noraa.

[Cabd]

I'm actually slightly townreading Nora's apprehensiveness with this wagon.

See I might buy that but I ascribe much more "go with the flow and see where it leads" to my town noraa model. Now mind you it's not a perfect model, but... See custom title.

At least you have a model to go off of. This is the first time I've played with her.

Played with? never....

Stalked mercilessly, however?

[Cabd]

Do you think Noraa is more or less likely scum if Cakez is town

I don’t know. It’s off to me from what i’ve seem of her, she shouldn’t be turning her nose up at this wagon, but she is and I don’t know why she’s doing it.

Consider it a mystery that might be AI for scum her.

This is where I'm at, it's not a HARD sign but it feels like a "I can save you bud" might be going down here.

[Cabd]

That is town flames btw. Take it to the bank, deposit your life savings into their box, town.

There's an underlying joy of as green PM coming from all three heads, each in their own unique way. If they are somehow fudging three SEPARATE emotional town tells, I'll eat my hat and it's not edible.

[Cabd]

12/10 would fake a town cop result on (except don't do this that's actually incredibly bad)

[Cabd]

Read my posts

I did read them.

I'm saying if you want something else to happen, you should do something about it yourself instead of voting a slot that I don't think very many people think is scum.

I'm saying that nothing else happening is a weird game state.

Paralysis.

There's probably 500 pages in the scum PT by now of "WTF DO WE DO"

[Cabd]

That is town flames btw. Take it to the bank, deposit your life savings into their box, town.

There's an underlying joy of as green PM coming from all three heads, each in their own unique way. If they are somehow fudging three SEPARATE emotional town tells, I'll eat my hat and it's not edible.

I wish they made edible clothes other than *NYUUUHH*

Over to the speakeasy if you wish to get edumacated on this.

[Cabd]

Also I think as long as I don’t get overly critical I can read Cakez as town properly
VOTE: Noraa
I wanna push this more than Cakez rn

Stay on target. Cake claims before we even think about looking elsewhere.

[Cabd]

I believe in us. We can get under the sixty pages limit folks.

[Cabd]

I'll stop derailing cuz it isn't even doing anything but if this flips green anytime this game, everyone has to call me daddy for the rest of the game.

I am not allowed by site rules to take this bet and you should stop making this kind of post.

[Cabd]

There is literally no reason to put someone at l-1 8 hours into day one.

Yes there is.

[Cabd]

I really dont get all this backlash. Im literally pointing out that this here *points at cake* "lock scum" or so everyone seems to be hinting at, doesn't even have a case on him. I dont understand why this isn't a red flag to everyone. Like sure, I get it, apparently Cabd is a hot shot scum hunter. Ok, so? Everyone is just gonna be like one word from cabd > anything else in the world. So great that we now dont even need a case to justify a wagon. One word from Cabd is enough. Like all these people that are fine with it, I dont even know wtf is up with them considering the majority haven't even played with cabd before.

I'll stop derailing cuz it isn't even doing anything but if this flips green anytime this game, everyone has to call me daddy for the rest of the game.

Diamond sentinel sends his regards.

[Cabd]

There is literally no reason to put someone at l-1 8 hours into day one.

Yes there is.

I have flashy noneya reasons.

[Cabd]

Read further ):

i did but i'm not seeing good justification for that feeling.

Do you see a world in which gamma-cakez is scum theater? If not and I am wrong you may have a gamma flashwagon. Just don't hold your breath on getting one!

[Cabd]

I am not allowed by site rules to take this bet and you should stop making this kind of post.

that's a site rule?

Counts as an out of game influence or bet. Ask your game mod for more details. Terms and conditions may apply. Worth 1/100th of one cent. Deal not valid outside of the continental US.

[Cabd]

Dearest Cabd,

Our esteemed colleague Charm would very much like some time to sort nachomuffin before this game day ends.

Please take that under consideration,

Affectionately yours,

~ Strangely Altered Ego

What if I told you.... you don't have to worry about this. Or me.

[Cabd]

Dearest Cabd,

Our esteemed colleague Charm would very much like some time to sort nachomuffin before this game day ends.

Please take that under consideration,

Affectionately yours,

~ Strangely Altered Ego

What if I told you.... you don't have to worry about this. Or me.

Because it's probably gonna be fucking Christmas up in here.

[Cabd]

Dearest Cabd,

Our esteemed colleague Charm would very much like some time to sort nachomuffin before this game day ends.

Please take that under consideration,

Affectionately yours,

~ Strangely Altered Ego

What if I told you.... you don't have to worry about this. Or me.

Charm will be relieved.

I am concerned. What's going on?

For me to know. And for you to find out. Andrius will be pleased with me.

[Cabd]

Oh my.

~ strange

Oh your.

[Cabd]

I mean it's been publicly stated 2/3rds of the deathy (well, deathy minus jake) are with me here.

Both heads of morph are town, and we are syncing. Do you have ANY idea how fucking strong that is of a tell that we're on the right track?

Rider AND Alter Ego are syncing, as well.

"Nobody else is seeing it" is a stretch, midway.

[Cabd]

No leashes. Those are for dogs not scumbutts.

[Cabd]

Don't get my hopes up like that. 26 minutes till past bell yells at future bell to fuck off to sleep.

[Cabd]

Which scums tried to miseliminate him.

Noraa?

[Cabd]

Jesus fuck not you too nacho.

Am I going to have to actually explain the irony?

I really wanted to keep that info to myself.

[Cabd]

Cake... reads of these four slots in particular, humor me....


Midwaybears
Nachomuffin (Catch up)
Fermis Flames
Firebringer

[Cabd]

Will catch up later maybe (Nachomamma8/zMuffinMan)

[Cabd]

Cake... reads of these four slots in particular, humor me....


Midwaybears
Nachomuffin (Catch up)
Fermis Flames
Firebringer

Other people are welcome to opine on this list plus cakes.

[Cabd]

What if I told you there's exactly one scum in that list of five?

[Cabd]

What if I told you there's exactly one scum in that list of five?

I'd say there's only four people on the list.

Those four plus cakes. Your shitpost coupon only lasts until the 24 hour after game launch mark.

[Cabd]

Cake... reads of these four slots in particular, humor me....


Midwaybears
Nachomuffin (Catch up)
Fermis Flames
Firebringer

Other people are welcome to opine on this list plus cakes.

Fucking hives.

~ strange

Bear with it, you're about to get a Christmas present.

[Cabd]

When Cabd expresses suspicion in whatever form he so chooses (I'm really rooting for the option that's not a casewall because this is not the game for those), I'll make reading and getting back to him on it a real priority.

My worry is that I see a lot of myself in Cabd right now. I've also had a lot of good Day 1 scumreads, but I've also murdered countless townies due to hubris and I've caused some emotional anguish in people that I could have avoided and still won the game and normally the big fuck ups come after a couple of big successes.

I get that your reads this game are going to fall very short of my hopes and dreams, and I've accepted that, but I'm not gonna be a bridesmaid instead of a bride this game, man. I have really REALLY good set reasons for what I am doing.

[Cabd]

Nora and Cakez need to stop obv scum theatring right now, though

I can be convinced Noraa first if I absolutely must, but there is 100% one scum in those five names and it's goddamn IMPORTANT that we get rid of that one sooner over later.

[Cabd]

Ffferysyrmy-

I genuinely think it could be a case of "Both" here.

I want cake first. I am tired of my really strong gutreads being written off and going nowhere. I will begrudgingly swallow that vinegar and settle for Noraa first but on the condition that we quickwagon cake tomorrow if/when noraaaaaaaaaaaa flips red.

It's very clear that cakes isn't posing any threat to Noraa in noraa's mind. It's very clear that Noraa was looking for an easy exit off the cake wagon.

Two plus two is sometimes actually just fucking four.

[Cabd]

Role.

Related.

Reasons.

Those five names are not randomly selected.

[Cabd]

Role.

Related.

Reasons.

Those five names are not randomly selected.

The thread silence heard around the world.

[Cabd]

Not a deathy... Otherwise I'd be in that list of five names folks. Try again.

[Cabd]

Do you remember how taylor posted a scumclaim in one of her first few posts?

[Cabd]

Do you remember how taylor posted a scumclaim in one of her first few posts?

That was only a scum claim to those in the know?

[Cabd]

Yeah Cabd is my Blade and I am a Driver we have weird role where we always have to link

This post? This is a taylor post.

A HUGE fucking taylor post.

[Cabd]

This is a bad question and you should feel bad.

I still don't really understand. There still seem to be some information withheld.

Water is also wet.

Have you met me?

[Cabd]

Syr. Overtoast paradox prime gif machine.

Prepare to fire.

[Cabd]

six months

You took up optimism, eh?

[Cabd]

I can't play this game anymore I can't
And it's been less than 24 hours

You couldn't resist trying to find it on the first set of posts, man. What did you expect?

[Cabd]

(We don't actually have to do that forever, I feel bad for Cakes getting fucked over by RNGesus here)

p-edit: Sure.

[Cabd]

I will self-vote tomorrow if I'm wrong, which will reveal my info in a mod-confirmed way and put us down two town plus whoever dies to night kill but whatever. At least you'll have all the info. And see exactly why I am doing what I am doing.


Cakez man I am sorry RNG fucked you over bud but like, we can hug after your team shoots me night one in the dead thread and make up and play footsies.

[Cabd]

I will self-vote tomorrow if I'm wrong, which will reveal my info in a mod-confirmed way and put us down two town plus whoever dies to night kill but whatever. At least you'll have all the info. And see exactly why I am doing what I am doing.

(This won't be happening though)

[Cabd]

Are you sure it will be mod revealed? The opening post template doesn't seem to describe flips that way idk

Because I'll post the paraphrased role PM and then my town alignment will flip when I die. Come on, you're smarter than a 5th grader.

[Cabd]

By the way I would have slow rolled this.

And maybe that would have been better.

But in under 24 hours I am doing to be on like... a five billion component cocktail painkiller mix recovering from surgery.

And I didn't want this to slip away while I was under anesthesia.

[Cabd]

I will give you all the hugs in the dead thread cakes. Why you guys greeded after me I will never know. I'll ask postgame I guess.

I might even be loopy enough on the opioids.

[Cabd]

I don't think you were hammered, my dude.

Nice try though?

[Cabd]

Hey cake... we can fix that.

Why are you going off Noraa onto Battlemage, after you just talked about how badly you NEEDED noraa to go post-your-death?

You get a chance at redemption and chase the shiny... Noraa's your buddy isn't she?

[Cabd]

My only regret in this game is that the 2012 cohort masonry has but one vote.

Cabd, you still in a hurry?

We thought Cakez' reaction to the pseudo hammer looked a little town. Since the vc, not so much. :/

~ strange

My nightmare is I wake up Wednesday evening and cakez is still alive and the wagon is on somebody town.

Noraa is not in that list. Gamma is. If I wake up to a Noraa wagon to death, and whoever was going o and on about leashing or whatever leashed cakez, i'll be annoyed. But not devastated.

That's the rush. I won't be around for a good 12-15 hour span. Scary. Anesthesia always is.

[Cabd]

Lexi.. Pixiebob or Savannah?

[Cabd]

Welcome back to the driving around Chicago talk radio hour I'm your host and today we'll be talking about the five stages of grief and how we have finally made it to acceptance I'm very proud of you cake

[Cabd]

VOTE: noraa
Die potato

If this isn't a scum claim and acceptance then I surely don't know what it is

[Cabd]

You see cake The one thing that made me sure that I'd chosen right out of my options was you're absolute fixation on getting a specific case wall from me that you could knock down and during that process you kept coming back to that over and over and over again you never really tried to go and get ahead of that case by stating what you had done that was town per se and while I would have felt good eliminating you without that that additional context makes me feel fantastic about this elimination like I said I am genuinely sorry that you rounded scum and the setup plus your actions gave it away to me so early but it would be nothing short of refusing to play to my wind condition to not go this hard this quick

[Cabd]

I fucking can't.


I'm melting down emotionally about this cakes.


I'm like 100 percent sure I'm right but ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm fucking scared. Deathy hydra I might need therapy.

[Cabd]

FUCK MY READS

FUCK MY IDEAS

BLOOD FOR THE FUCKING BLOOD GOD


VIGS OR LEASH OR COPS OR WHATEVER RHE FUCK ON CAKES

UNVOTE:
VOTE: noraa

[Cabd]

I'm going to go cry in a corner now

[Cabd]

I fucking can't.


I'm melting down emotionally about this cakes.


I'm like 100 percent sure I'm right but ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm fucking scared. Deathy hydra I might need therapy.

Talk to me?

~ strange

I am so confident about this read I have plenty of other reasons to believe this is the correct choice but whoever said that I was being like Alison sings because I don't feel I'm being that way but clearly somebody thought that and it's a pretty crappy feeling

[Cabd]

You know as much as it pains me to do it I think I do actually owe an explanation of why this is happening to cake it's going to have to wait for a keyboard and a mouse though but I will do it tonight before my surgery tomorrow and I guess I can just wake up to the fallout from everything 16 hours later

[Cabd]

And to answer your question no those five names aren't in a rural PM and my name is definitely not in your role PM it's not nearly that direct

[Cabd]

Cabd

Midway's actually bugging me.

What's happening to my townpile???

Unfortunately I don't think scum midway is this obtuse about things It would be nice if it was that easy

[Cabd]

I don't even know what to do here. I need to think and step away a bit I think.

This sucks.

[Cabd]

Ffrrysyrmy help I think leafie just mind melded with me and I haven't even laid a single hint of it down.

[Cabd]

Oh extremely. I got a random paranoia ping at a post gulitinna or whatever made a while back but didn't voice it but you clearly got pinged somewhere on there too.

[Cabd]

I am... here.

An actual keyboard, and a mouse.

I am going to write the cakez casewall. And like... three people are gonna read it. And then we're probably gonna chase shines elsewhere while I'm practically dead on the table.

[Cabd]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Cakez

Important Role Related Info To Keep in Mind Before Reading

Spoiler:

I am a blade with negative town utility, and positive scum utility. My flavor hints that scum are aware I exist out there. As I am now claiming this factor, visiting me tonight is a scum claim. I am locked into driver with the first contractor... permanently. I will literally instavote you the next day, and keep my vote there forever until you night kill or mislim me.

The five names I posted are cakez, and other people who felt like they were either trying to feel out my role, or were weirdly NOT weirded out at the way I was hinting at being a driver. Except fferytammysyr. I included them for fun.

The Opening Phase

Spoiler:

Yeah Cabd is my Blade and I am a Driver we have weird role where we always have to link

This is a taylor-in-deathy-level scumclaim. This is my ability, and my flavor hints that scum is looking for me, without being specific about what they know. This is hella testing the reaction waters to see if anyone blinks. Ballsy. And technically it got me out, so... yeah?

The rest of psuedo RVS is nothing in particular that is super shiny.

Brian Skies?
More like Brian Scums

Hate this read, I know it's super early but like... Brian was transparently out the gate towning it the fuck up, ffery syr and tammy saw it from the getgo too.

Just gonna quote other early game posts that pinged weirdly:

Something is seriously wrong with the way the cake is opening this game.

I am currently driving so you're going to have to settle for the dump of voice to text but I can't place my finger on it but there's something really weird and evil in the way he's trying to be too light-hearted about this including his own wagon I really don't want this series of votes on him to get written off as RVS shenanigans I want it made explicitly clear that I have a actual genuine read that is beneath 50/50 rand on his alignment

Also you guys literally threatened to speed elim me day 1 before the game started so I don't see why you're surprised I'm not taking it super seriously

This is the start of the chain of posts where Cakez is REALLY wanting a specific casewall to argue against, but doesn't really try to intuit where I'm coming form, or argue in the general sense why he's town:

Fermis talk to me about your serious vote on me since Cabd won't

Are you hoping they convince you that you are scum or something?

I just don't get where this comes from as a town. I'd be more interested in people reading actual possible scum slots.

Hmmmmm......

I don't really understand why Cabd or them are SRing me so I'm hoping to be able to address their concerns because I'd rather work with them than against them this game

It is like... his single waking thought:

I can't wait for Cabd's wall

I see this game will continue the obnoxious trend of people SRing me without explaining why

I see this game will continue the obnoxious trend of people SRing me without explaining why

Why does that bother you?

Because I dislike being scum read in general so I usually try to argue against why people are SRing me
I can't do that if people don't explain why

Thus why I'm excited for Cabd's wall

But, yeah, I don't see this viewpoint from town on Cakez. Like, he's not going "Look at this read" it really feels like he's saying "Tell me why I'm scum!"

That is what I'm saying yes

More in this vein...

Yeah Cabd is my Blade and I am a Driver we have weird role where we always have to link

Can you explain why you made this post?

it was a joke
because in Cabd and I's last game SOMEBODY fakeclaimed mason lover doctors with scum
so i did that and then added some flavor for funsies and then people took it seriously

Like I'm tired of having kickass day one scumreads and never getting it through because other shininess.

This is my

², Zanza, Bionis Aligned Odd-Night Ability Cop, was lynched Day 1.

this is just a lie considering we got Taylo0r through in literally our last game together

You know what does not spark joy in me Cabd?
Whenever you post and it's not your casewall

Cabd there's no fucking way you're still in the drive like for covid test

Calling out this next one because it was immediately dropped and never went anywhere. At no point has it EVER felt like cakez was even remotely consitering I could be anything other than town pushing him.

I'm starting to think you're just full of shit

Back to your regularly scheduled wall fixation...

Because you know that I would be asking for a wall here regardless of alignment because I hate being pushed when people can't explain it
And you're just trying to push my buttons more now

Sorry Cabd I like you but I can't stand this playstyle and push from you

You're posting is totally insufferable rn
It's just like Alisae 2.0 where e was like "hmm look at the scum posting goo!!" And then I was town and e was all shocked but not really

Midgame Weirdness Around Noraa

Spoiler:

Pretty sure Noraa is actual scum here, guys.

Pour que?

Notably, first mention of Noraa in his ISO besides the weird NORAAAAAAAAAAAAAA callout thingie. Anyways. This goes absolutely nowhere for a loooong time.

Now the cakez wagon is very possibly going to elimination status, and it resurfaces...

the bigger discussion here is why Noraa is not giving me any town vibes at all when I usually get them from her immediately

There's a big back and forth here. It's the sequence of posts that Cobra and Flavor Leaf noted as scum theater. I tend to agree. The fixation on "specific meta from Betrayal" is super weird, like they are both trying to focus on something loud and shiny to talk over.

The back and forth gets dropepd again, cakez goes back to being all "Wall when noobs" and Noraa fades from his topics. Dare I say...

TRAJECTORY TRAJECTORY TRAJECTORY DANGER WILL ROBINSON.

Like go back and read Cakez in ISO. It's like the second he feels that theatering with Noraa isn't working, it just vanishes. Poof. Into the ether.

It then resurfaces a LOT of pages later.. here:

my BM vote is really stale and not going anywhere
VOTE: Noraa
I'd like to try this
her pop-ins yesterday were so bad
seems like she's not even trying, just complaining
which does not make for a town Noraa

Note this is his actual first time voting Noraa. Despite fixating on her, he never left the Battle Mage vote he'd made super early into the game.

Crocodile Hammer Tears

Spoiler:

Like... you either see these as being super obviously overblown and fake, or you probably disagree with all the other points I already made..

hi bork I love you

bring me sweet release

Fermis what are you hoping for I'm hammered

Bork just hasn't finished counting yet

Cuz I was at L3 then Midway and fermis revoted and then LLD hammered

Also please elim BM
I can't stand that he's acting like my push on him is the reason I'm dying

I was a Tracker Blade

Take me to the Lakes where all the poets went to die
I don't belong and, my beloved, neither do you
Those Windermere peaks look like a perfect place to cry
I'm setting off, but not without my muse

Votecount 1.8

[10] SirCakez (Cabd, ManWithNoName, MariaR, Bell, Battle Mage, Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald, Fermis Flames, midwaybear, Lady Lambdadelta)
[2] Flavor Leaf (noraa, unwnd)
[2] Lady Lambdadelta (Firebringer, l4pe)
[2] noraa (SirCakez, Guillotina)
[1] Battle Mage (beeboy)
[1] Cobra Kai (REAGAN BUSH 84)
[1] Gamma Emerald (Brian Skies)
[1] unwnd (Flavor Leaf)

[2] Not Voting (Cobra Kai, Will catch up later maybe)

With 22 alive, it is 12 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-11-30 13:00:00)

FFS IM NOT DEAD

[Cabd]

I didn't proofread that shit, sorry in advance for the three people who read it, not sorry in advance for the scumbutt about to go and try and make a rebuttal of it.

[Cabd]

Extreme dodge of the Noraa-trajectory component of the case noted.

Syr, you may once again break out the nodgif.

[Cabd]

Spoiler: Morph Masonry Nobody Else Allowed

On a scale of K9 to Helen of Troy how human are you feeling right now?

~ Rift Adrift

<3 Wishing you an easy surgery and recovery

Spoiler: Morph Masonry Nobody Else Allowed

I think I'm gonna ask for a hidden USB C port in my jaw while they're in there anyways. The drivers can always come later, hardware support is where it's out.

I did the case. He is now not wanting to engage the case. ESPECIALLY the Noraa parts of the case. I am satisfied all has ended well. I face my dental-death with dignity.

[Cabd]

I've already stated I think you guys are on another planet with this "scum theatre" theory and that's that.

Not engaging on the trajectory issue noted.

I do this case wall just for you and this is my repayment eh?