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Anyone want to try to answer this? It does seem important that blades are actually able to use their abilities, but full out claiming seems unnatural.In post 14, midwaybear wrote:How are we going to make sure that drivers and blades actually pair up?
That being said, I'm a blade. Hit me up at night
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Anything. I thought about it overnight, but couldn't think of anything too good.In post 41, Gamma Emerald wrote:do you mean just mechanically or are you asking for some explicit system run by us players to ensure that happens?
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It would probably be pretty important considering that driver/blade syncs are how we can get some night results.In post 43, L4pe wrote:how important is it that they do?
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Hmm did you actually think it was legit?In post 26, ManWithNoName wrote:I'm not falling for a N0 claim, I have done that before and, well, it didn't end well for town.
I was also the one claiming a N0 in that game.
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Too highIn post 92, SirCakez wrote:My guess for first 24 hours was 60 pages and I was told that was too low
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This isn't good though...In post 132, Battle Mage wrote:lol id prefer nobody else to claim - that way i'll get lots of drivers
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Hence, "blind luck", which to me seems a bit wasteful. We'll see.In post 170, ManWithNoName wrote:I am a little confused about how we are supposed to link up if we don't know who is blade and who is driver.
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I did lolIn post 178, Battle Mage wrote:yet you didnt claim?
To be honest, I don't really see scum getting rewarded for targeting blades and drivers.
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Hm? What do you mean by this? Blend in to whatIn post 189, L4pe wrote:my concern is that its far easier for scum drivers/blades to blend in
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I thought you were very confident in your ability not to get MLed.In post 206, Battle Mage wrote:when i flip town, get that cakey fella
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That isn't always scummy though... especially for BM(I think).In post 229, SirCakez wrote:So OMGUS
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What makes this different then?In post 241, SirCakez wrote:Sure but in this context it doesn't help him
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Are you describing your own push as serious with nothing else behind that? I'm a bit unsure what you're trying to say here.In post 250, SirCakez wrote:it's in response to a serious push opening out of the gate with nothing else behind it
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What game was this?In post 283, SirCakez wrote:He acted like this in the last game I SRed him though
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Has he OMGUSed in towngames though?In post 302, SirCakez wrote:sooooo I just remembered that in Chromavalon I actually knew BM was scum from my role >.<
That does not change that he is playing like he did in that game
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eh? Something with tone?In post 461, unwnd wrote:NoName might just be like this and I doubt he cares if I'm voting him
VOTE: midwaybear
This however
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I stopped playing like that on this site.In post 490, unwnd wrote:his confidence was unbridled
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Eh, I feel like I see where you are coming from. There's a difference in the confidence you are seeing...In post 515, unwnd wrote:I feel his statements are too confident from a perspective of having played with him and just in general
Well, I can just refer you to my previous post. I don't really play that that anymore. It got me scumread to oblivion, and the way I generated reads didn't really work. I was definitely lucky in reading ND/Dunn as scum that game lol.
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Why do you think that reading me off of one game we played together(like half a year ago-ish) is reliable?In post 544, unwnd wrote:I think we agree to disagree, but I dug you being on Gamma so I don't really have any beef with you atm
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I remember it started sometime in May, but after checking it ended in July.
About BM, I didn't really townread him. I just find the way he plays to be a little grating personally, but Cakez reasons didn't seem too substantiated to me. Considering that Cakez apparently only played in BM scum games, it's a bit weird. I like that Cakez backed off though, but neither of them are really confident reads rn.
About BM, I didn't really townread him. I just find the way he plays to be a little grating personally, but Cakez reasons didn't seem too substantiated to me. Considering that Cakez apparently only played in BM scum games, it's a bit weird. I like that Cakez backed off though, but neither of them are really confident reads rn.
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I mean you joined the game after BM, so...In post 615, Gamma Emerald wrote:You are infuriating and I’m tired of ignoring the issue!
It also just seems like your vote is based off pure dislike for his playstyle. I get that, but I don't know if I trust it to hit scum.
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Why is it because gamma is scum compared to town him just really getting irked?In post 625, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:correct. because he's scum.
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Annoying. I feel like I could try to read into their motivations behind this, but I feel like it's just arguing for the sake of it more than anything alignment indicative at this point.In post 654, unwnd wrote:Forgot to respond. Gamma/BM seems like a clear battle going on, what's your take on it?
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What's the differenceIn post 683, ManWithNoName wrote:Like, he's not going "Look at this read" it really feels like he's saying "Tell me why I'm scum!"
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I feel like he has been scum hunting to some extent. Definitely not just wanting to engage about other's read on him.In post 687, ManWithNoName wrote:It's the difference between him scum hunting and him saying he just wants people to sell him as scum to him.
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Sorta was thinking this too. At least I didn’t get the high tier TR from Cab on them
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What?In post 1111, Gamma Emerald wrote:I have thought on this but I feel like there’s a 90% chance it’ll reveal whether I’m a driver/blade on the spotIn post 1068, Brian Skies wrote:I think if blades want to be visited by more drivers, then that's their incentive to be more towny.
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Want to tell me why?
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Why did you think it was "town motivated"?In post 1566, SirCakez wrote:His huge outburst at BM felt genuine and town motivated
Does anyone townread MWNN?
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What if Cakez is town?In post 1529, Will catch up later maybe wrote:i think if she was scum she might make more of an effort to cultivate an image.
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There doesn't always have to be a clear cut scum motivation for scum to do things.
MWNN, first of all, I did give reads earlier in that newbie. Second of all, I find it hard to believe that you think me not giving reads as scum is ever a strategy that I would keep.
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Ok? Sorta dodging my point that it's weird that you think catching scum me is as simple as me not giving reads(my scum game is bad but not to that extent).
Also, what reads do you even have this game? You talked about Cakez looking like he was more interested in finding out why he was scum rather than scumhunting. I don't find that to be too scummy and it seems like a natural town reaction.
Also, what reads do you even have this game? You talked about Cakez looking like he was more interested in finding out why he was scum rather than scumhunting. I don't find that to be too scummy and it seems like a natural town reaction.
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Not sure why both of you seem to be overlooking that Dunnstral can just be engaged scum?In post 1414, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:good to know, that takes away some of my reservation thereIn post 1408, Gamma Emerald wrote: He also does little as scum
When he does do stuff though, I think him actually showing the level of engagement he is is actually a town tell
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Yeah, I feel that towards his scum game too. How has he been different this game though? I feel like he has been play mostly like that though. Any moments where he deviates from that? I was townreading him, but just wondering what you think.In post 1622, Gamma Emerald wrote:his scum play just has the slick and easy vibe where it doesn't feel like he's really analyzing to his full capacity
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Did he say that he scumread FL?In post 1623, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:"dangerous ego" would imply he's town here, though, no?
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Do you think you are seeing what he is seeing?
Anyways, I don't feel like approaching a scumread like this is going to be too successful. By holding back on the reasons that you are scumreading Cakez, even if he is scum, it allows him to react in a naturally townie manner that will put people at pause.
Anyways, I don't feel like approaching a scumread like this is going to be too successful. By holding back on the reasons that you are scumreading Cakez, even if he is scum, it allows him to react in a naturally townie manner that will put people at pause.
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In what way?
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I still don't really understand. There still seem to be some information withheld.In post 1733, Fermis Flames wrote:This is a bad question and you should feel bad.
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Why?In post 1717, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:i don't really believe you
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ughh
I noticed this too. All the claims so far seem to be blades?In post 1927, Battle Mage wrote:too many fucking blades what the fuck
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Obviously lolIn post 1940, Noraa wrote:Ik imma blade. It can be proven easily. If a driver links me, they can prove I'm a blade tomorrow.
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I want to bring this up again. Cabd has partially claimed, but it is still mostly based off trust as he hasn't fully revealed what he knows. That's why I wanted a full claim...In post 1669, midwaybear wrote:Anyways, I don't feel like approaching a scumread like this is going to be too successful. By holding back on the reasons that you are scumreading Cakez, even if he is scum, it allows him to react in a naturally townie manner that will put people at pause.
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How am I being obtuse? The push on Cakez was not normal.
What does this mean?In post 2070, Bell wrote:I know he likes to drop town tells as scum
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I thought this was just liking her playstyle and not an actual townread.In post 2204, unwnd wrote:If you trust his reads from memory he said he liked noraa?
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Is it not reasonable for me to be skeptical? I did unvote this morning too.In post 2376, SirCakez wrote:mmk so from the list of five probably midway
Would fit in with his waffling around my wagon
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Because I had some trust and now you should probably die todayIn post 2524, SirCakez wrote:So why did you stay on it so long and then you just rejoined it
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beeboy has been lurky in most games recently, so I don't want to read him based off of that. It's not really about whether I agree with them to me(he could be right on both after all), it's just that I feel like it makes sense as a town approach from him. If he was scum, I don't really think he would be so lost(maybe).In post 2526, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:doesn't really track to townread him for those reads on them when you don't fully agree yourself, no?
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apparenly cabd has info that there's scum in me, you, cakez, catchupIn post 2535, Firebringer wrote:i have no read opinion of either of u. why am i choosing again?
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Wait what? He does have a mod-given scumpool though rightIn post 2544, Will catch up later maybe wrote:no that was a lie, cabd already clarified that
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I had no idea he claimed driverIn post 2549, Will catch up later maybe wrote:cabd's list was based on something dumb like people who didn't question his claim which is inherently flawed since it assumes we even knew hed claimed lol
that seems to be what the list is based off of
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Let's just go with this. I hyperskimmed the 250 posts I missedIn post 2550, Cabd wrote:obtusebear
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I know he lurked in the Undertale game, but he did similarly in the Betrayal game as town.In post 2556, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:bush tells me him being a lost lurksack is not abnormal for him as scum. he doesn't like playing it and can't summon the energy to keep up.
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I still don't get that, and I probably missed it anyways.In post 2558, Cabd wrote:This was the "driver" pumpfake. "find" as opposed to "Choose"
Well peta did call out your list as fake which is cool ig
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Well lots of people have already claimed blade, so that's nice.In post 2575, Gamma Emerald wrote:Imo drivers should just try to do what they think is best and if their target is a blade then yippee!
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This is actually anti-town because we want to maximize driver/blade pairs.In post 2603, Battle Mage wrote:amended for protown reasons
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Yeah, scum knowing who paired means that they should be able to deduce who is driver, who is blade, who isn't, ...In post 2614, Cabd wrote:Correction, we want to maximize blade/driver pairs without anyone knowing who paired with who until after it occurred.
I was thinking that there had to be some sort of solution, but it seems not.
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SameIn post 2803, Bell wrote:I feel like I'm going to be doing a lot of sheeping this game.
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YeahIn post 2806, Cabd wrote:Do you have, create, or interact with non driver-blade neighborhoods?
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Probably. It does seem like we're in a good situation, so people can keep on doing what they are doing.In post 2865, Cabd wrote:This is probably one of those games where you just let your team drag you to victory, midway.
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No, Guillotina is a newbie. I am less confident on him.In post 2927, Cobra Kai wrote:This is an alt pulling a newbie ploy.
VOTE: Noraa
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No, who was your driver?In post 2973, Noraa wrote:Did MWNN ever serious claim driver?
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Why is that? I thought he was very lurky.In post 2995, L4pe wrote:yknow i could swear beebot had more than 22 posts
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Ok? But I was asking how you got the impression that he seemed to be posting more than he was.In post 3001, L4pe wrote:compare general post counts and youll see the issue
iirc its like a third of the next highest poster
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Do you normally make a lot a lot of filler posts then? I'm not seeing the purpose behind you saying that.In post 3010, L4pe wrote:feels too little considering the fact that i still remember hes in the game :p
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Probably. I just find it weird that she seems to be relaying a lot of her thoughts through this driver character.In post 3050, Dunnstral wrote:It doesn't matter who the driver was, though
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Is there any difference you've noticed in the way they've handled Noraa/Guillo compared to more townread players like Cabd or Cobra?In post 3064, Gamma Emerald wrote:btw I feel like if Guillo and Noraa ARE both town we need to take a HARD look at Presidents for locking onto two town limbaits today
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Same. I have a hood too, so it's not too lonely.In post 3539, L4pe wrote:honestly dont link with me actually itll be pointless
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You, MWNN, beeboy, Regan, NoraaIn post 3978, Spiffeh wrote:What is the PoE pool rn?
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What's so scummy about it?In post 3995, unwnd wrote:WTF is this post haha I officially dislike midwaybear
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This is my reads listIn post 4007, unwnd wrote:You just seem really willing to accept the PoE from mostly two people, yet D1 made me think you were more of an individual (yet indecisive) person. Is the PoE you posted the one you agree with?
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so more or less. There isn't a lot of motivation to do stuff right now for me since we seem to be on the right track. Spiffeh doesn't seem very scummy to me right now, but Guillo's play made little sense to me. I'm wondering why he tried to fake being a newbie while also acting like he was an old timer. It's probably better to vote Noraa today.
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I took Maria out of comfortable town tier because I didn't really think she was as townie as I thought. Catchup went into that tier because I found that moment where nacho coached cakez in thread to be unlikely as scum. Also, the main reason I didn't like that slot was because of the coaching, but Cakez flipping scum was a good look.In post 4023, unwnd wrote:Explain the changes?
Cobra Kai seems townie enough, so I also stuck him in there. beeboy dropped out for obvious reasons. I don't think my previous reason for townreading him is valid. Idk he could be too scummy to be scum, but I don't like that logic in general.
The other changes are all some minor stuff.
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Cakez was also wondering this. I don't really think that is scummy especially now that he has flipped red.In post 4532, unwnd wrote:Why did midwaybear say this
While voting for Cakez? GeeIn post 1358, midwaybear wrote:Seems like no one shares Cabd's conviction that Cakez is scum
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We actually won't because abilities aren't revealed upon flip.In post 4975, NC 39 wrote:you will find that out once we flip.
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