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Post Post #14 (isolation #0) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:03 am

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How are we going to make sure that drivers and blades actually pair up?
VOTE: beeboy
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Post Post #22 (isolation #1) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:06 am

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Is this legit?
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Post Post #28 (isolation #2) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:08 am

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beeboy is probably just RVSing. If it was legit, he probably would be a lot more serious(I think).
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Post Post #34 (isolation #3) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:10 am

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In post 14, midwaybear wrote:How are we going to make sure that drivers and blades actually pair up?
Anyone want to try to answer this? It does seem important that blades are actually able to use their abilities, but full out claiming seems unnatural.
That being said, I'm a blade. Hit me up at night :cool:
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Post Post #47 (isolation #4) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:14 am

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In post 41, Gamma Emerald wrote:do you mean just mechanically or are you asking for some explicit system run by us players to ensure that happens?
Anything. I thought about it overnight, but couldn't think of anything too good.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #5) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:16 am

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In post 43, L4pe wrote:how important is it that they do?
It would probably be pretty important considering that driver/blade syncs are how we can get some night results.
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Post Post #62 (isolation #6) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:19 am

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In post 26, ManWithNoName wrote:I'm not falling for a N0 claim, I have done that before and, well, it didn't end well for town.

I was also the one claiming a N0 in that game.
Hmm did you actually think it was legit?
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Post Post #99 (isolation #7) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:26 am

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In post 92, SirCakez wrote:My guess for first 24 hours was 60 pages and I was told that was too low
Too high
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Post Post #101 (isolation #8) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:26 am

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VOTE: Cakez
Yeah I'm fine with this too
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Post Post #137 (isolation #9) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:34 am

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In post 132, Battle Mage wrote:lol id prefer nobody else to claim - that way i'll get lots of drivers
This isn't good though...
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Post Post #160 (isolation #10) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:38 am

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yeah Cabd does seem ok. It's good that he appears to be doing meta on Cakez.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #11) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:39 am

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Drivers have traits? Thought that was only for blades.
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Post Post #174 (isolation #12) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:41 am

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In post 170, ManWithNoName wrote:I am a little confused about how we are supposed to link up if we don't know who is blade and who is driver.
Hence, "blind luck", which to me seems a bit wasteful. We'll see.
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Post Post #184 (isolation #13) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:44 am

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In post 178, Battle Mage wrote:yet you didnt claim?
I did lol
To be honest, I don't really see scum getting rewarded for targeting blades and drivers.
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Post Post #192 (isolation #14) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:47 am

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In post 189, L4pe wrote:my concern is that its far easier for scum drivers/blades to blend in
Hm? What do you mean by this? Blend in to what
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Post Post #200 (isolation #15) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:48 am

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Bold to assume you're living to f3 :twisted:
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Post Post #209 (isolation #16) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:51 am

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In post 206, Battle Mage wrote:when i flip town, get that cakey fella
I thought you were very confident in your ability not to get MLed.
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Post Post #217 (isolation #17) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:52 am

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What? You think people have grudges against you here?
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Post Post #225 (isolation #18) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:55 am

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wtmoo
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Post Post #235 (isolation #19) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:57 am

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In post 229, SirCakez wrote:So OMGUS
That isn't always scummy though... especially for BM(I think).
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Post Post #240 (isolation #20) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:59 am

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In post 231, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 225, midwaybear wrote:wtmoo
VOTE: midway

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Post Post #245 (isolation #21) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:00 am

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In post 241, SirCakez wrote:Sure but in this context it doesn't help him
What makes this different then?
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Post Post #252 (isolation #22) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:01 am

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I'm pretty sure this is the first time I have used that term on this site, so not sure where you are getting that this is a scumtell :lol:
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Post Post #256 (isolation #23) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:02 am

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In post 250, SirCakez wrote:it's in response to a serious push opening out of the gate with nothing else behind it
Are you describing your own push as serious with nothing else behind that? I'm a bit unsure what you're trying to say here.
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Post Post #263 (isolation #24) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:04 am

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Hey BM, can you talk about that "scumtell" on me? I don't see why you would be joking there, but I don't see why it is ever a scumtell.
pedit: No, it was my buddy GeneralWu :lol:
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Post Post #269 (isolation #25) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:07 am

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Looks like you pushed him based off of one post and proceeded to scumread his OMGUS. Sure, it makes him look scummy, but I still feel like it is more likely to just be BM.
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Post Post #274 (isolation #26) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:09 am

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It's not scummy, but it makes you look bad and escalates conflict.
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Post Post #282 (isolation #27) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:13 am

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His scumread of you is probably what I would expect from town!BM. He tends to be one of those players who wants to be townread, so I think it is natural for him to scumread you back. I'm not sure how I would expect scum!him to act, but that's why I don't really think BM is scum right now.
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Post Post #289 (isolation #28) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:15 am

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In post 283, SirCakez wrote:He acted like this in the last game I SRed him though
What game was this?
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Post Post #298 (isolation #29) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:18 am

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What is a non-specific claim then??
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Post Post #306 (isolation #30) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:20 am

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In post 302, SirCakez wrote:sooooo I just remembered that in Chromavalon I actually knew BM was scum from my role >.<
That does not change that he is playing like he did in that game
Has he OMGUSed in towngames though?
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Post Post #322 (isolation #31) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:23 am

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I was just wondering why you decided to bold that to BM. His claim was already out there, so there's no point in really trying to hide it IMO.
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Post Post #326 (isolation #32) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:24 am

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spoiler tags please...
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Post Post #558 (isolation #33) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:26 am

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Still going strong huh
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Post Post #565 (isolation #34) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:28 am

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In post 461, unwnd wrote:NoName might just be like this and I doubt he cares if I'm voting him

VOTE: midwaybear

This however
eh? Something with tone?
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Post Post #574 (isolation #35) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:30 am

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In post 490, unwnd wrote:his confidence was unbridled
I stopped playing like that on this site.
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Post Post #592 (isolation #36) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:35 am

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In post 515, unwnd wrote:I feel his statements are too confident from a perspective of having played with him and just in general
Eh, I feel like I see where you are coming from. There's a difference in the confidence you are seeing...
Well, I can just refer you to my previous post. I don't really play that that anymore. It got me scumread to oblivion, and the way I generated reads didn't really work. I was definitely lucky in reading ND/Dunn as scum that game lol.
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Post Post #603 (isolation #37) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:38 am

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In post 544, unwnd wrote:I think we agree to disagree, but I dug you being on Gamma so I don't really have any beef with you atm
Why do you think that reading me off of one game we played together(like half a year ago-ish) is reliable?
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Post Post #616 (isolation #38) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:44 am

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I remember it started sometime in May, but after checking it ended in July.
About BM, I didn't really townread him. I just find the way he plays to be a little grating personally, but Cakez reasons didn't seem too substantiated to me. Considering that Cakez apparently only played in BM scum games, it's a bit weird. I like that Cakez backed off though, but neither of them are really confident reads rn.
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Post Post #623 (isolation #39) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:47 am

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In post 615, Gamma Emerald wrote:You are infuriating and I’m tired of ignoring the issue!
I mean you joined the game after BM, so...
It also just seems like your vote is based off pure dislike for his playstyle. I get that, but I don't know if I trust it to hit scum.
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Post Post #629 (isolation #40) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:49 am

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In post 625, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:correct. because he's scum.
Why is it because gamma is scum compared to town him just really getting irked?
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Post Post #637 (isolation #41) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:52 am

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Nope, just saying that you knew you were getting into a game with a player you disliked, so I would expect some measures of caution.
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Post Post #646 (isolation #42) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:54 am

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Why is Cakez scum again? I was voting him for his entry, but his blunt posting as of right now isn't really pinging me one way or the other.
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Post Post #658 (isolation #43) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:56 am

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Cakez-so what's different?
I'm already voting Cakez.
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Post Post #668 (isolation #44) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:59 am

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In post 654, unwnd wrote:Forgot to respond. Gamma/BM seems like a clear battle going on, what's your take on it?
Annoying. I feel like I could try to read into their motivations behind this, but I feel like it's just arguing for the sake of it more than anything alignment indicative at this point.
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Post Post #684 (isolation #45) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:04 am

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In post 683, ManWithNoName wrote:Like, he's not going "Look at this read" it really feels like he's saying "Tell me why I'm scum!"
What's the difference :?
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Post Post #696 (isolation #46) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:10 am

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In post 687, ManWithNoName wrote:It's the difference between him scum hunting and him saying he just wants people to sell him as scum to him.
I feel like he has been scum hunting to some extent. Definitely not just wanting to engage about other's read on him.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #47) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:12 am

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Cakez so what was the difference between the scum BM from chromavalon and the game you modded?
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Post Post #722 (isolation #48) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:47 am

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If I lose my conviction on Cakez, I will vote MWNN alongside Bell.
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #49) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:09 pm

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Woah Cakez wagon got big. Reading up
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Post Post #1091 (isolation #50) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:13 pm

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In post 815, Bell wrote:VOTE: fermis flames
Sorta was thinking this too. At least I didn’t get the high tier TR from Cab on them
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Post Post #1098 (isolation #51) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:17 pm

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Still catching up, but did we ever get a Cakez case?
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Post Post #1114 (isolation #52) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:28 pm

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Before Cakez is hammered, we should do something about night actions. It’s almost suspicious that nobody has formally cased him.
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #53) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:28 pm

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In post 1111, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1068, Brian Skies wrote:I think if blades want to be visited by more drivers, then that's their incentive to be more towny.
I have thought on this but I feel like there’s a 90% chance it’ll reveal whether I’m a driver/blade on the spot
What?
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Post Post #1136 (isolation #54) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:36 pm

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Yeah, we should make Cabd put in work for this Cakez hang.
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Post Post #1155 (isolation #55) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:44 pm

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Tells as in hard scum tells? Who is seeing them?
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Post Post #1218 (isolation #56) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:09 pm

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Why is fermis flames scummy again? I'm neutral ish now.
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #57) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:31 pm

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Ummm
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Post Post #1272 (isolation #58) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:35 pm

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Doesn't this wagon just have to go through at this point?
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Post Post #1284 (isolation #59) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:39 pm

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His hang pretty much seems inevitable, and it will be a huge distraction if he lives on anyways.
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Post Post #1290 (isolation #60) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:41 pm

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Who else here firmly believe in Cakez scum besides Cabd?
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Post Post #1358 (isolation #61) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:05 pm

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Seems like no one shares Cabd's conviction that Cakez is scum
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Post Post #1361 (isolation #62) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:09 pm

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MWNN reasons for scumreading you make no sense to me.
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Post Post #1371 (isolation #63) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:13 pm

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Cabd said earlier that he wasn't going to burn his tell on you because others seemed to be seeing what he was seeing. It doesn't look like anyone here really is seeing what he is seeing.
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Post Post #1373 (isolation #64) » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:13 pm

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In post 1366, Bell wrote:I kinda do.
Not at the same strength but there’s an inkling
Want to tell me why?
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Post Post #1577 (isolation #65) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:37 am

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In post 1566, SirCakez wrote:His huge outburst at BM felt genuine and town motivated
Why did you think it was "town motivated"?
Does anyone townread MWNN?
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Post Post #1580 (isolation #66) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:43 am

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What's wrong with wanting to see how others feel first? Maybe I'm overlooking something about your play.
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Post Post #1581 (isolation #67) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:44 am

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In post 1529, Will catch up later maybe wrote:i think if she was scum she might make more of an effort to cultivate an image.
What if Cakez is town?
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Post Post #1585 (isolation #68) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:53 am

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Yeah, but it's not hard to imagine scum!Gamma similarly getting irked and then blowing up at BM.
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Post Post #1589 (isolation #69) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:59 am

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Why wouldn't I give reads as scum? That seems a bit suicidal tbh.
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Post Post #1592 (isolation #70) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:02 am

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In post 1590, SirCakez wrote:But what's the scum motivation for that
Just ignore it
There doesn't always have to be a clear cut scum motivation for scum to do things.

MWNN, first of all, I did give reads earlier in that newbie. Second of all, I find it hard to believe that you think me not giving reads as scum is ever a strategy that I would keep.
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Post Post #1596 (isolation #71) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:06 am

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Ok? Sorta dodging my point that it's weird that you think catching scum me is as simple as me not giving reads(my scum game is bad but not to that extent).
Also, what reads do you even have this game? You talked about Cakez looking like he was more interested in finding out why he was scum rather than scumhunting. I don't find that to be too scummy and it seems like a natural town reaction.
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Post Post #1599 (isolation #72) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:09 am

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UNVOTE: btw
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Post Post #1606 (isolation #73) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:24 am

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In post 1414, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:
In post 1408, Gamma Emerald wrote: He also does little as scum
When he does do stuff though, I think him actually showing the level of engagement he is is actually a town tell
good to know, that takes away some of my reservation there
Not sure why both of you seem to be overlooking that Dunnstral can just be engaged scum?
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Post Post #1628 (isolation #74) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:36 am

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In post 1622, Gamma Emerald wrote:his scum play just has the slick and easy vibe where it doesn't feel like he's really analyzing to his full capacity
Yeah, I feel that towards his scum game too. How has he been different this game though? I feel like he has been play mostly like that though. Any moments where he deviates from that? I was townreading him, but just wondering what you think.
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #75) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:37 am

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In post 1623, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:"dangerous ego" would imply he's town here, though, no?
Did he say that he scumread FL?
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Post Post #1666 (isolation #76) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:49 am

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Do you hard scumread Cakez Fermi?
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Post Post #1669 (isolation #77) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:12 am

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Do you think you are seeing what he is seeing?
Anyways, I don't feel like approaching a scumread like this is going to be too successful. By holding back on the reasons that you are scumreading Cakez, even if he is scum, it allows him to react in a naturally townie manner that will put people at pause.
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Post Post #1730 (isolation #78) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:41 am

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In post 1727, Cabd wrote:This post? This is a taylor post.

A HUGE fucking taylor post.
In what way?
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Post Post #1737 (isolation #79) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:44 am

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In post 1733, Fermis Flames wrote:This is a bad question and you should feel bad.
I still don't really understand. There still seem to be some information withheld.
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Post Post #1745 (isolation #80) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:50 am

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VOTE: Cakez ok then
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Post Post #1748 (isolation #81) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:52 am

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In post 1717, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:i don't really believe you
Why?
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Post Post #1770 (isolation #82) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:59 am

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Are you sure it will be mod revealed? The opening post template doesn't seem to describe flips that way idk
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Post Post #1787 (isolation #83) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:05 am

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ohhh right
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Post Post #1844 (isolation #84) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:19 am

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Unfortunately I believe that BM is genuinely like this as town. Would love to be wrong though.
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Post Post #1929 (isolation #85) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:39 am

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ughh
In post 1927, Battle Mage wrote:too many fucking blades what the fuck
I noticed this too. All the claims so far seem to be blades?
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Post Post #1946 (isolation #86) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:44 am

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In post 1940, Noraa wrote:Ik imma blade. It can be proven easily. If a driver links me, they can prove I'm a blade tomorrow.
Obviously lol
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Post Post #1959 (isolation #87) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:49 am

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Maybe you should full claim...
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Post Post #1983 (isolation #88) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:54 am

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In post 1669, midwaybear wrote:Anyways, I don't feel like approaching a scumread like this is going to be too successful. By holding back on the reasons that you are scumreading Cakez, even if he is scum, it allows him to react in a naturally townie manner that will put people at pause.
I want to bring this up again. Cabd has partially claimed, but it is still mostly based off trust as he hasn't fully revealed what he knows. That's why I wanted a full claim...
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Post Post #1994 (isolation #89) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:56 am

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Since when were we revealing information about abilities
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Post Post #2031 (isolation #90) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:07 am

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Yes, a full claim?
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Post Post #2035 (isolation #91) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:08 am

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I was talking about Cabd not you.
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Post Post #2040 (isolation #92) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:10 am

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Well a full claim will at least be the first step in helping us figure this situation out. This whole strategy of keeping things secret was very unlikely to work out anways.
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Post Post #2047 (isolation #93) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:14 am

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Keeping things secret is always going to evoke that sort of reaction from Cakez as town or scum. That's always going to make people uneasy and that's why his wagon is falling apart. Sure, he got to L-1, but look at what is happening now.
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Post Post #2055 (isolation #94) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:16 am

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Bugging you for what?
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Post Post #2076 (isolation #95) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:21 am

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How am I being obtuse? The push on Cakez was not normal.
In post 2070, Bell wrote:I know he likes to drop town tells as scum
What does this mean?
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Post Post #2118 (isolation #96) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:37 am

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@beeboy Are they easier reads for you?
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Post Post #2209 (isolation #97) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:25 am

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In post 2204, unwnd wrote:If you trust his reads from memory he said he liked noraa?
I thought this was just liking her playstyle and not an actual townread.
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Post Post #2489 (isolation #98) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:41 pm

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reads
Bell, Gamma, BM
Cabd, Dunn, Maria, beeboy
Comfortable
Fermi, unwnd, Brian
Regan, cobra
Flavor, l4pe, Gullo, noraa, LLD, firebringer, MWNN, Cakez, catchup

will catch up later
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Post Post #2517 (isolation #99) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:56 pm

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I like beeboy for now because his reads are on unwnd and l4pe. I'm pretty sure he is pretty familiar with both of them, so it makes sense for town!beeboy to exclusively have reads on them.
Also, I know my readlist likely wasn't helpful for any of you.
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Post Post #2519 (isolation #100) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:57 pm

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In post 2376, SirCakez wrote:mmk so from the list of five probably midway
Would fit in with his waffling around my wagon
Is it not reasonable for me to be skeptical? I did unvote this morning too.
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Post Post #2522 (isolation #101) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:59 pm

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Because it was a not normal wagon.
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Post Post #2532 (isolation #102) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:04 pm

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In post 2524, SirCakez wrote:So why did you stay on it so long and then you just rejoined it
Because I had some trust and now you should probably die today
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Post Post #2534 (isolation #103) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:05 pm

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Firebringer, who do you see as scum between me and the muffin/nacho hydra is then?
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Post Post #2538 (isolation #104) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:08 pm

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In post 2526, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:doesn't really track to townread him for those reads on them when you don't fully agree yourself, no?
beeboy has been lurky in most games recently, so I don't want to read him based off of that. It's not really about whether I agree with them to me(he could be right on both after all), it's just that I feel like it makes sense as a town approach from him. If he was scum, I don't really think he would be so lost(maybe).
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Post Post #2541 (isolation #105) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:09 pm

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In post 2535, Firebringer wrote:i have no read opinion of either of u. why am i choosing again?
apparenly cabd has info that there's scum in me, you, cakez, catchup
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Post Post #2545 (isolation #106) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:10 pm

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I like muffin but I don't like nacho.
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Post Post #2546 (isolation #107) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:12 pm

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In post 2544, Will catch up later maybe wrote:no that was a lie, cabd already clarified that
Wait what? He does have a mod-given scumpool though right
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Post Post #2552 (isolation #108) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:15 pm

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In post 2549, Will catch up later maybe wrote:cabd's list was based on something dumb like people who didn't question his claim which is inherently flawed since it assumes we even knew hed claimed lol
I had no idea he claimed driver
that seems to be what the list is based off of
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Post Post #2555 (isolation #109) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:16 pm

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In post 2550, Cabd wrote:obtusebear
Let's just go with this. I hyperskimmed the 250 posts I missed
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Post Post #2560 (isolation #110) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:18 pm

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In post 2556, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:bush tells me him being a lost lurksack is not abnormal for him as scum. he doesn't like playing it and can't summon the energy to keep up.
I know he lurked in the Undertale game, but he did similarly in the Betrayal game as town.
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Post Post #2564 (isolation #111) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:20 pm

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In post 2558, Cabd wrote:This was the "driver" pumpfake. "find" as opposed to "Choose"
I still don't get that, and I probably missed it anyways.
Well peta did call out your list as fake which is cool ig
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Post Post #2576 (isolation #112) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:30 pm

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In post 2575, Gamma Emerald wrote:Imo drivers should just try to do what they think is best and if their target is a blade then yippee!
Well lots of people have already claimed blade, so that's nice.
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Post Post #2582 (isolation #113) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:36 pm

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Why isn't Prism posting in the main thread?
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Post Post #2595 (isolation #114) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:41 pm

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Maybe prism is posting, but I can't tell them apart.
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Post Post #2602 (isolation #115) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:43 pm

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Have you been able to tell peta and Prism's posting apart?
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Post Post #2609 (isolation #116) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:44 pm

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In post 2603, Battle Mage wrote:amended for protown reasons
This is actually anti-town because we want to maximize driver/blade pairs.
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Post Post #2624 (isolation #117) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:50 pm

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In post 2614, Cabd wrote:Correction, we want to maximize blade/driver pairs without anyone knowing who paired with who until after it occurred.
Yeah, scum knowing who paired means that they should be able to deduce who is driver, who is blade, who isn't, ...
I was thinking that there had to be some sort of solution, but it seems not.
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Post Post #2689 (isolation #118) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:26 pm

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I didn't like the way nacho was talking to Cakez earlier today.
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Post Post #2788 (isolation #119) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:05 pm

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VOTE: Gullotina
Seems legit
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Post Post #2794 (isolation #120) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:08 pm

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My vote on Cakez in 101 was not exactly sheeping. I think I was scumreading him a bit for joking too much, but that may not be reliable.
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Post Post #2810 (isolation #121) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:12 pm

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In post 2803, Bell wrote:I feel like I'm going to be doing a lot of sheeping this game.
Same
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Post Post #2822 (isolation #122) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:14 pm

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In post 2806, Cabd wrote:Do you have, create, or interact with non driver-blade neighborhoods?
Yeah :o
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Post Post #2840 (isolation #123) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:19 pm

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Confirmed blade doesn't mean much.
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Post Post #2858 (isolation #124) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:23 pm

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Gullotina's vote doesn't read like a bus vote to me. It reads like a compromise vote.
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Post Post #2863 (isolation #125) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:24 pm

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Fair, that why I'm still voting him.
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Post Post #2868 (isolation #126) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:26 pm

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In post 2865, Cabd wrote:This is probably one of those games where you just let your team drag you to victory, midway.
Probably. It does seem like we're in a good situation, so people can keep on doing what they are doing.
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Post Post #2877 (isolation #127) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:30 pm

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Hmm now I'm expecting something big.
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Post Post #2908 (isolation #128) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:39 pm

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Not sure what you were expecting there Dunnstral
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Post Post #2925 (isolation #129) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm

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I don't think claiming flavor is worth a shot. Mafia probably have fakeclaims, but I suppose there may be some situations in this game where fakeclaims are unlikely.
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Post Post #2932 (isolation #130) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm

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In post 2927, Cobra Kai wrote:This is an alt pulling a newbie ploy.
No, Guillotina is a newbie. I am less confident on him.
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Post Post #2935 (isolation #131) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm

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I could still vote for Guillotina though.
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Post Post #2949 (isolation #132) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:51 pm

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Hm I'm not sure that's what he meant. I still think he is a new player. He has a 2020 join date on MU and I don't think they do alts there.
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Post Post #2955 (isolation #133) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:52 pm

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Ok, well if he is an alt, then yeah he is super scummy lol
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Post Post #2965 (isolation #134) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:55 pm

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MWNN said that was a joke claim...
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Post Post #2968 (isolation #135) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:56 pm

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Your driver sounds a little sketchy
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Post Post #2976 (isolation #136) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:57 pm

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Why would Guillotina pretend to be a newbie while making obscure references to the fermi hydra?
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Post Post #2978 (isolation #137) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:58 pm

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In post 2973, Noraa wrote:Did MWNN ever serious claim driver?
No, who was your driver?
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Post Post #2983 (isolation #138) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:59 pm

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Flavor shouldn't confirm people as town though. I think.
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Post Post #2998 (isolation #139) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:05 pm

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In post 2995, L4pe wrote:yknow i could swear beebot had more than 22 posts
Why is that? I thought he was very lurky.
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Post Post #3009 (isolation #140) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:07 pm

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In post 3001, L4pe wrote:compare general post counts and youll see the issue

iirc its like a third of the next highest poster
Ok? But I was asking how you got the impression that he seemed to be posting more than he was.
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Post Post #3019 (isolation #141) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:11 pm

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In post 3010, L4pe wrote:feels too little considering the fact that i still remember hes in the game :p
Do you normally make a lot a lot of filler posts then? I'm not seeing the purpose behind you saying that.
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Post Post #3043 (isolation #142) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:17 pm

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Really curious who this driver was...already have some suspicions
I am seeing some of Dunnstral's points about town flailing. Not completely sure though.
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Post Post #3058 (isolation #143) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:22 pm

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In post 3050, Dunnstral wrote:It doesn't matter who the driver was, though
Probably. I just find it weird that she seems to be relaying a lot of her thoughts through this driver character.
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Post Post #3061 (isolation #144) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:22 pm

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VOTE: Guillotina
Yes, I'm fine with this too.
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Post Post #3069 (isolation #145) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:24 pm

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In post 3064, Gamma Emerald wrote:btw I feel like if Guillo and Noraa ARE both town we need to take a HARD look at Presidents for locking onto two town limbaits today
Is there any difference you've noticed in the way they've handled Noraa/Guillo compared to more townread players like Cabd or Cobra?
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Post Post #3080 (isolation #146) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:28 pm

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If there isn't a difference, then I don't think it is scummy.
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Post Post #3549 (isolation #147) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:13 am

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In post 3539, L4pe wrote:honestly dont link with me actually itll be pointless
Same. I have a hood too, so it's not too lonely.
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Post Post #3660 (isolation #148) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:15 am

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I don't think that was serious.
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Post Post #3666 (isolation #149) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:23 am

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It is getting colder, so hopefully I become right soon.
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Post Post #3915 (isolation #150) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:26 am

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Doesn't Cabd have no utility?
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Post Post #3920 (isolation #151) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:29 am

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He said that he has a semi-useless set of roles. I guess that is better than nothing ;)
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Post Post #3985 (isolation #152) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:56 am

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In post 3978, Spiffeh wrote:What is the PoE pool rn?
You, MWNN, beeboy, Regan, Noraa
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Post Post #3991 (isolation #153) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:58 am

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There are some other people who are more split in terms of townread or scumreads, but I feel like the pool I gave is general consensus.
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Post Post #4002 (isolation #154) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:01 am

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In post 3995, unwnd wrote:WTF is this post haha I officially dislike midwaybear
What's so scummy about it?
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Post Post #4018 (isolation #155) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:08 am

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In post 4007, unwnd wrote:You just seem really willing to accept the PoE from mostly two people, yet D1 made me think you were more of an individual (yet indecisive) person. Is the PoE you posted the one you agree with?
This is my reads list
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Cabd, Bell, Gamma, BM
cobra, Dunn, catchup,
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Flavor, Regan, unwnd, Maria, LLD
Brian, firebringer, beeboy, l4pe
MWNN, Gullo, noraa

so more or less. There isn't a lot of motivation to do stuff right now for me since we seem to be on the right track. Spiffeh doesn't seem very scummy to me right now, but Guillo's play made little sense to me. I'm wondering why he tried to fake being a newbie while also acting like he was an old timer. It's probably better to vote Noraa today.
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Post Post #4020 (isolation #156) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:09 am

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Do you really think I was scummy for saying that?
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Post Post #4029 (isolation #157) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:17 am

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In post 4023, unwnd wrote:Explain the changes?
I took Maria out of comfortable town tier because I didn't really think she was as townie as I thought. Catchup went into that tier because I found that moment where nacho coached cakez in thread to be unlikely as scum. Also, the main reason I didn't like that slot was because of the coaching, but Cakez flipping scum was a good look.
Cobra Kai seems townie enough, so I also stuck him in there. beeboy dropped out for obvious reasons. I don't think my previous reason for townreading him is valid. Idk he could be too scummy to be scum, but I don't like that logic in general.
The other changes are all some minor stuff.
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Post Post #4046 (isolation #158) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:27 am

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Yes, I think you both are fine players, but not really. Mostly aligns with my own reads.
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Post Post #4093 (isolation #159) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:14 pm

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Even if Spiffeh is town, there might be scum abilities that prevent him from shooting Noraa. I think that is what FL was getting at?
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Post Post #4175 (isolation #160) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:18 pm

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One shot roles aren't refundable, so I don't think the claim matters.
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Post Post #4177 (isolation #161) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:19 pm

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Let's let him give his reads.
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Post Post #4238 (isolation #162) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:36 pm

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Why aren't we letting him give reads?
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Post Post #4242 (isolation #163) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:44 pm

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He followed up on it...
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Post Post #4266 (isolation #164) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:26 pm

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I keep on going back and forth between wanting to unvote and let him give reads and just thinking the Guillotina slot was too bad.
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Post Post #4270 (isolation #165) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:32 pm

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Yeah, I get how this is very different from the weakest link.
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Post Post #4295 (isolation #166) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:54 pm

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Yeah, I should try to get a better read on unwnd. I feel that he's been a bit weird this game, but it might not be scummy.
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Post Post #4599 (isolation #167) » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:36 am

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In post 4532, unwnd wrote:Why did midwaybear say this
In post 1358, midwaybear wrote:Seems like no one shares Cabd's conviction that Cakez is scum
While voting for Cakez? Gee
Cakez was also wondering this. I don't really think that is scummy especially now that he has flipped red.
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Post Post #4645 (isolation #168) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:36 am

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Who killed unwnd?
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Post Post #4701 (isolation #169) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:50 am

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As great as everyone else!
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Post Post #4801 (isolation #170) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:26 pm

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More cops? Huh
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Post Post #4851 (isolation #171) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:11 am

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It's just a claim. Nothing complicated.
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Post Post #4852 (isolation #172) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:12 am

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Ok, it might be a bit complicated.
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Post Post #4977 (isolation #173) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:16 am

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In post 4975, NC 39 wrote:you will find that out once we flip.
We actually won't because abilities aren't revealed upon flip.
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Post Post #5060 (isolation #174) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:07 am

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We're voting the outed scum first.
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Post Post #5062 (isolation #175) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:08 am

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Oh, well I have been tinfoiling Cabd as scum. That would be exciting.
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Post Post #5069 (isolation #176) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:10 am

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VOTE: Spiffeh
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Post Post #5110 (isolation #177) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:58 am

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Thanks for the carry.
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Post Post #5113 (isolation #178) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:01 am

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I didn't townread him for that.
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Post Post #5122 (isolation #179) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:06 am

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Thanks for modding bork
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Post Post #5147 (isolation #180) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:22 am

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I don't think I did.
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Post Post #5157 (isolation #181) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:25 am

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l4pe ruined my perfect hood readlist.
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Post Post #5163 (isolation #182) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:27 am

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BM was great :)
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Post Post #5542 (isolation #183) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:23 pm

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Nice
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