Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

[L4pe]

hello - oh you guys are fast

[L4pe]

Hello friends and foes
I am here with a role claim to start off this game.

Unfortunately for a certain individual I have in fact rolled "Cop with a N0" and I opted to use my role on the terrifying "MariaR".
It has come to my attention after receiving my result that she is aligned with the Mafia.

Please help me eliminate her from the game.
Not voting with me is borderline a scum claim.

VOTE: MariaR

sorry beelad not buying it

[L4pe]

beeboy is probably just RVSing. If it was legit, he probably would be a lot more serious(I think).

im aware

just wanted an excuse to call him beelad

[L4pe]

How are we going to make sure that drivers and blades actually pair up?

Anyone want to try to answer this? It does seem important that blades are actually able to use their abilities, but full out claiming seems unnatural.
That being said, I'm a blade. Hit me up at night

how important is it that they do?

[L4pe]

We pair off people in advance for PTs so the can continue individual lines of questioning there.

pt = private chat? sorry, the jargon is a little unclear to me

[L4pe]

Eventually I will go back and beat Xenoblade Chronicles 2... and Xenoblade Chronicles... But, also I'm showing my girlfriend I can beat games by playing Breath of the Wild extensively without beating it, first.

i dont think you can beat botw, for the record, by nature of how the game works

so probably not the best choice

[L4pe]

L4pe not helping me vote MariaR is a pretty major stab ngl.
I will remember this moment

i forgot you played like this and how stupid it was

[L4pe]

oh god I look away for a second and a whole page crops up

i know right

i dont even want to go to sleep because i am notorious for saying "ill backread" then not doing it

i cant play like that

[L4pe]

Oh are we all just mass-claiming today?

absolutely not

+1

i place 60% odds on 1 or 2 scum claiming here to encourage others to do it

[L4pe]

L4pe not helping me vote MariaR is a pretty major stab ngl.
I will remember this moment

i forgot you played like this and how stupid it was

If you play mafia seriously in the crapshoot known as the first 40 pages of the game.
Then you are really just wasting your time ngl.

Given nothing done in these pages actually matters outside establishing a first impression with other players.

very well

(i was going to post a first impression but i have no idea how to work yt/anchor tags)

[L4pe]

oh god I look away for a second and a whole page crops up

i know right

i dont even want to go to sleep because i am notorious for saying "ill backread" then not doing it

i cant play like that

do I have exp with you? Are you an alt?

* on homesite

fixed

[L4pe]

I'm falling behind.

I have tentative townreads on
Cabd
Firebringer
L4pe

um

W?

i dont see anything ive said thats particularly noteworthy or swings one alignment or another

[L4pe]

yet you didnt claim?

I did lol
To be honest, I don't really see scum getting rewarded for targeting blades and drivers.

my concern is that its far easier for scum drivers/blades to blend in

but i suppose it depends on who gets paired with whom

[L4pe]

yet you didnt claim?

I did lol
To be honest, I don't really see scum getting rewarded for targeting blades and drivers.

my concern is that its far easier for scum drivers/blades to blend in

but i suppose it depends on who gets paired with whom

retroactive edit: my concern is that its far easier for scum blah blah - if a mass claim is allowed

[L4pe]

Brian Skies?
More like Brian Scums

dont make me ur enemy cakez. my anime girl might look cute but she can get scary.

Mine can't get really get scary she has stage fright
Maybe in like f3 I'll be scary?

look i did not expect anything more from you than a doublepost but damn it actually happened

also mine is """evil""" i suppose

[L4pe]

look i did not expect anything more from you than a doublepost but damn it actually happened

also mine is """evil""" i suppose

Touhous are all evil >:(

...do you mean the youkai, or every single touhou character?

[L4pe]

personally i think we should kill all these chinese cartoon things

miss

[L4pe]

...do you mean the youkai, or every single touhou character?

Rinnosuke is the only pure touhou character.

i havent read such a bad take in months
VOTE: beeboy

[L4pe]

wtmoo

VOTE: midway

oh dear buddy

wtmoo

definition please

[L4pe]

um

W?

i dont see anything ive said thats particularly noteworthy or swings one alignment or another

It's partly dependent on you being who I think you are. Regardless, this post makes me feel even better about your slot, so...

im not an alt

sorry to disappoint

[L4pe]

i am way too smooth brain to understand what everyone is saying right now if ill be completely honest but i think we could use a list of people whove claimed (not specific claims, not necessary) and try reading people within the list

[L4pe]

i am way too smooth brain to understand what everyone is saying right now if ill be completely honest but i think we could use a list of people whove claimed (not specific claims, not necessary) and try reading people within the list

Do you have any completed games either here or on other sites or is this pretty much you just jumping in for it right into the deep end?

haha this is just a strategy ive used before

narrowing down the list of people i need to think about really helps my performance

i am way too smooth brain to understand what everyone is saying right now if ill be completely honest but i think we could use a list of people whove claimed (not specific claims, not necessary) and try reading people within the list

I claimed BLADE

(not specific claims, not necessary)

[L4pe]

What is a non-specific claim then??

what kind of question is that

i think youre completely hung up on wording

read the op

[L4pe]

Stop! the Crown Prince and most powerful Driver of the Kingdom of Tantal is here! Bow down mortals!

...

[L4pe]

I was just wondering why you decided to bold that to BM. His claim was already out there, so there's no point in really trying to hide it IMO.

yeah, i suppose the point of leaving claims vague is completely null now

[L4pe]

i am way too smooth brain to understand what everyone is saying right now if ill be completely honest but i think we could use a list of people whove claimed (not specific claims, not necessary) and try reading people within the list

Do you have any completed games either here or on other sites or is this pretty much you just jumping in for it right into the deep end?

haha this is just a strategy ive used before

narrowing down the list of people i need to think about really helps my performance

i am way too smooth brain to understand what everyone is saying right now if ill be completely honest but i think we could use a list of people whove claimed (not specific claims, not necessary) and try reading people within the list

I claimed BLADE

(not specific claims, not necessary)

Okay so you've played elsewhere but not here is that correct? Humor me I promise I'm going somewhere with this

affirmative

[L4pe]

excessive posting is antitown

weird thinking

the more someone posts the more reliable your read is on them

even if the content is irrelevant you can still read someone for posting garbage

im not sure why youd want to prevent people from doing this

[L4pe]

im not an alt

sorry to disappoint

I have tentative townreads on
Cabd
Firebringer

L4pe

Potential Scum

L4pe

understandable

[L4pe]

excessive posting is antitown

weird thinking

the more someone posts the more reliable your read is on them

even if the content is irrelevant you can still read someone for posting garbage

im not sure why youd want to prevent people from doing this

because when someone has to read 50 pages to catchup it creates apathy which is not good for town

this is going to happen anyway; sleep exists

its not really something preventable by any means so the best you can do is hope your fellow players plow through it

and asking people to post less isnt going to help

[L4pe]

excessive posting is antitown

weird thinking

the more someone posts the more reliable your read is on them

even if the content is irrelevant you can still read someone for posting garbage

im not sure why youd want to prevent people from doing this

i always feels it weird when people comment on peoples thinking when they say things like "posting too much is anti town" when it doesnt seem like a post u cn really read intent to but it doesnt look like ur reading intent. Idk weird out of place commentary to me. Maybe i am a hypocrite trying to read into a persons post about why someone would do that. Inception style.

i want a dialogue

it will give me a read

[L4pe]

excessive posting is antitown

weird thinking

the more someone posts the more reliable your read is on them

even if the content is irrelevant you can still read someone for posting garbage

im not sure why youd want to prevent people from doing this

i always feels it weird when people comment on peoples thinking when they say things like "posting too much is anti town" when it doesnt seem like a post u cn really read intent to but it doesnt look like ur reading intent. Idk weird out of place commentary to me. Maybe i am a hypocrite trying to read into a persons post about why someone would do that. Inception style.

i want a dialogue

it will give me a read

yo whats ur read on old BM?

i actually do quite like your presence in the thread

use spoiler tags though

idk i think you come off as very... spammy

but not in a bad way

and the fact that you choose to engage me like this shows a healthy level of self awareness i think

[L4pe]

i am way too smooth brain to understand what everyone is saying right now if ill be completely honest but i think we could use a list of people whove claimed (not specific claims, not necessary) and try reading people within the list

?

look i know i dont use punctuation but you dont have to think about it too hard

[L4pe]

Spoiler: thread

excessive posting is antitown

weird thinking

the more someone posts the more reliable your read is on them

even if the content is irrelevant you can still read someone for posting garbage

im not sure why youd want to prevent people from doing this

i always feels it weird when people comment on peoples thinking when they say things like "posting too much is anti town" when it doesnt seem like a post u cn really read intent to but it doesnt look like ur reading intent. Idk weird out of place commentary to me. Maybe i am a hypocrite trying to read into a persons post about why someone would do that. Inception style.

i want a dialogue

it will give me a read

yo whats ur read on old BM?

i actually do quite like your presence in the thread

use spoiler tags though

idk i think you come off as very... spammy

but not in a bad way

and the fact that you choose to engage me like this shows a healthy level of self awareness i think

addendum: by spammy i mean... posty. like, posting what you feel like? a very transparent style of play

and its usually towny to me to act like that

[L4pe]

Spoiler: thread

excessive posting is antitown

weird thinking

the more someone posts the more reliable your read is on them

even if the content is irrelevant you can still read someone for posting garbage

im not sure why youd want to prevent people from doing this

i always feels it weird when people comment on peoples thinking when they say things like "posting too much is anti town" when it doesnt seem like a post u cn really read intent to but it doesnt look like ur reading intent. Idk weird out of place commentary to me. Maybe i am a hypocrite trying to read into a persons post about why someone would do that. Inception style.

i want a dialogue

it will give me a read

yo whats ur read on old BM?

i actually do quite like your presence in the thread

use spoiler tags though

idk i think you come off as very... spammy

but not in a bad way

and the fact that you choose to engage me like this shows a healthy level of self awareness i think

addendum: by spammy i mean... posty. like, posting what you feel like? a very transparent style of play

and its usually towny to me to act like that

good read. can you talk some sense to cakez?

having fundamentally different ideas of how post volume should be handled means i probably wont agree with him at all on it

and im fine with that

[L4pe]

Spoiler: thread

excessive posting is antitown

weird thinking

the more someone posts the more reliable your read is on them

even if the content is irrelevant you can still read someone for posting garbage

im not sure why youd want to prevent people from doing this

i always feels it weird when people comment on peoples thinking when they say things like "posting too much is anti town" when it doesnt seem like a post u cn really read intent to but it doesnt look like ur reading intent. Idk weird out of place commentary to me. Maybe i am a hypocrite trying to read into a persons post about why someone would do that. Inception style.

i want a dialogue

it will give me a read

yo whats ur read on old BM?

i actually do quite like your presence in the thread

use spoiler tags though

idk i think you come off as very... spammy

but not in a bad way

and the fact that you choose to engage me like this shows a healthy level of self awareness i think

addendum: by spammy i mean... posty. like, posting what you feel like? a very transparent style of play

and its usually towny to me to act like that

good read. can you talk some sense to cakez?

having fundamentally different ideas of how post volume should be handled means i probably wont agree with him at all on it

and im fine with that

i have to wonder if L4pe town would fight for his reads though

fair concern

this isnt about reads though

this is about me disagreeing with him on how he sees the game

major difference between convincing him that my townread is right and convincing him my townread his right and that all of his reads are wrong because he is using flawed logic to read people

(not that that is whats happening, just giving you a scale)

[L4pe]

Also, if you read the first letter of all my posts, it spells out a special message.

I have plenty to say.

there are way too many "i"s for this to say anything meaningful

respectable attempt though

[L4pe]

beeboy get over here

[L4pe]

breaking for game

back later

these posts are good though

NoName might just be like this and I doubt he cares if I'm voting him

VOTE: midwaybear

This however

bad vote

I think his help and posts are extraordinarily bland and serve no purpose other than to look townie

But not

Votecount 1.0

[22] Not Voting (Battle Mage, beeboy, Bell, Brian Skies, Cabd, Cobra Kai, Dunnstral, Fermis Flames, Firebringer, Flavor Leaf, Gamma Emerald, Guillotina, l4pe, Lady Lambdadelta, ManWithNoName, MariaR, midwaybear, noraa, REAGAN BUSH 84, Sircakez, unwnd, Will catch up later maybe)

With 22 alive, it is 12 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-11-30 13:00:00)

This was posted 16 Nov 2020, 14:00
can we

C

O

O

L

I

T

?

we've been going for 7 hours??

not 7, TWO
that's my time >:(

This is the first post I've seen from you that even rises to the level of NAI.

~ strange

[L4pe]

I see unwnd is town and I will be pairing with them until further notice.

Also I'm gonna say this now: My role is pretty great but it requires people to be open with who they're trying to pair with. Not saying you gotta but take it with a grain of salt.

...you know what that phrase means, right

[L4pe]

I see unwnd is town and I will be pairing with them until further notice.

Also I'm gonna say this now: My role is pretty great but it requires people to be open with who they're trying to pair with. Not saying you gotta but take it with a grain of salt.

...you know what that phrase means, right

I know what I said Zeepy.

do you want to google and make sure

[L4pe]

im willing to buy that the personal attacks are quite genuine

i just think theyre nai

[L4pe]

I dislike that nobody had anything to say about Flavor Leaf despite me clearly asking

Until someone gives me a good reason I'm not letting scum have an excuse to townread him lol

I town read this post ngl.
I've town read a few things this game, but I should probably actually start commenting on what I like ngl.

i am going to murder you

[L4pe]

Maybe I wouldn’t be that way if you didn’t make games absolute hell to play!!!!!

w/e man

You can’t just dodge this problem. I am legitimately fed up with you shittunneling and spamming your way through the games you play. It’s time you learned to GROW UP.

the problem is yours, and yours alone. I don't see anybody else throwing their proverbial toys out the pram? Also, accusing me of shittunnelling when I've voted for about 7 different people in the last 3 hours is...incredible.

Maybe I wouldn’t be that way if you didn’t make games absolute hell to play!!!!!

w/e man

You can’t just dodge this problem. I am legitimately fed up with you shittunneling and spamming your way through the games you play. It’s time you learned to GROW UP.

shut up please

this will get nowhere

[L4pe]

Maybe I wouldn’t be that way if you didn’t make games absolute hell to play!!!!!

w/e man

You can’t just dodge this problem. I am legitimately fed up with you shittunneling and spamming your way through the games you play. It’s time you learned to GROW UP.

the problem is yours, and yours alone. I don't see anybody else throwing their proverbial toys out the pram? Also, accusing me of shittunnelling when I've voted for about 7 different people in the last 3 hours is...incredible.

Maybe I wouldn’t be that way if you didn’t make games absolute hell to play!!!!!

w/e man

You can’t just dodge this problem. I am legitimately fed up with you shittunneling and spamming your way through the games you play. It’s time you learned to GROW UP.

shut up please

this will get nowhere

...you're telling me to shut up?

both

Maybe I wouldn’t be that way if you didn’t make games absolute hell to play!!!!!

w/e man

You can’t just dodge this problem. I am legitimately fed up with you shittunneling and spamming your way through the games you play. It’s time you learned to GROW UP.

the problem is yours, and yours alone. I don't see anybody else throwing their proverbial toys out the pram? Also, accusing me of shittunnelling when I've voted for about 7 different people in the last 3 hours is...incredible.

Oh it isn’t just this game. Every time you’ve played you’ve gotten cocksure about stuff. You are infuriating and I’m tired of ignoring the issue! I will see you laid low if it’s the last goddamn thing I do!!!

wtf is this post though

[L4pe]

ive been staring at thread hoping either my brain or someone else would make some movement

i am disappointed to say neither has happened

lets go back to my idea. does anyone have a list of people whove claimed?

~~~~~~~

lol excellent timing

[L4pe]

does anyone have a list of people whove claimed?

This is what I have from first 15 pages

blades
midway
battlemage

drivers
manwithnoname
Guillotina

seeking love and romance
firebringer

okay, cool

when im not lazy i will give a read through of these people

uh, expect that in about 2 days

sorry

[L4pe]

This may be preemptive but if Gamma/BM were TvT, I feel scum would just let them bicker amongst themselves and then have two voting opportunities if one eats the other alive. What should be a showmatch with multiple people betting on the hypothetical winner just feels like circumstance and dealing with it. Part of the reason why I feel it's SvT is that you have this strange compromise between the two where most people agree that BM is being just as much of an ass as Gamma... but Gamma is the one getting the most 'scum' declarations and then BM is just being anti-town.

To the people who care: What makes them different. Gamma seems liable on account of his own behavior and BM is again just sorta rude. I don't know if I care for that after stepping back for a few. I'll be honest and say I can't differentiate their posts in the last three-four pages.

not a bad idea, disregarding the idea that following this it is free towncred to tell them to shut the fuck up

[L4pe]

I’m VERY curious how a post restriction fits into this setup at all jsyk
I’m calling your bluff LLD.

Oh shit does LLD have a posting restriction?

X

???

If you don’t have one then what the legitimate FUCK are you doing????? Like I’m legitimately baffled that you’d ever consider playing in such a blatantly anti-town way. As such I think you have to be scum for it.

Vote me then, coward.

this is the towniest of towns

what?

[L4pe]

im willing to buy that the personal attacks are quite genuine

i just think theyre nai

What is this supposed to mean

reading the post explains the post

[L4pe]

I’m VERY curious how a post restriction fits into this setup at all jsyk
I’m calling your bluff LLD.

Oh shit does LLD have a posting restriction?

X

???

If you don’t have one then what the legitimate FUCK are you doing????? Like I’m legitimately baffled that you’d ever consider playing in such a blatantly anti-town way. As such I think you have to be scum for it.

Vote me then, coward.

this is the towniest of towns

what?

eh?

whats towny about this my man

[L4pe]

I’m VERY curious how a post restriction fits into this setup at all jsyk
I’m calling your bluff LLD.

Oh shit does LLD have a posting restriction?

X

???

If you don’t have one then what the legitimate FUCK are you doing????? Like I’m legitimately baffled that you’d ever consider playing in such a blatantly anti-town way. As such I think you have to be scum for it.

Vote me then, coward.

this is the towniest of towns

what?

eh?

whats towny about this my man

just feels townie. going in all guns blazing, inviting the heat. I love it!

very fakeable

also does not make me like lld any more which is a negative

[L4pe]

haha i'm baffled that despite being universally townread, i have the 2nd biggest wagon

Must mean you're not universally townread then.

let the record show brian has moved a smidge upward on my scale

[L4pe]

haha i'm baffled that despite being universally townread, i have the 2nd biggest wagon

Must mean you're not universally townread then.

let the record show brian has moved a smidge upward on my scale

is that good or bad?

um, i dont know

my scale goes from left to right LOL

[L4pe]

I'm town this time btw.

i wanted to make fun of this post but no one is used to my style of humor yet

sad

[L4pe]

im willing to buy that the personal attacks are quite genuine

i just think theyre nai

What is this supposed to mean

reading the post explains the post

What are you trying to drive at
Like this feels like some hard IIOA, and it also sounds weird re: calling my personal attacks genuine. It’s essentially saying my points against BM’s character are correct. That such a slimy thing to say and I don’t like it.

while youre reaching that far can you bring me some ice cream

[L4pe]

Someone please hammer this is 43 pages

this is a reason to not hammer silly

[L4pe]

Yeah my 60 page prophecy is coming false

cmon guys if we cant even hit 80 by day 1 how bad are we

[L4pe]

The game hasn’t been going for a full day, how is it gonna be worth hammering rn with the discussion still blooming
Why is Cakez even getting wagoned? As much as I appreciate not getting entirely shut out D1 I am not in a position I’m gonna do the Sandra “anything but me” move rn.

okay i am coming around on gamma not being blatant scum but i still think there are issues with gamma/bm interactions

[L4pe]

^^^That too~

if youre a driver theres a 70-30 chance i am a blade

hehe

[L4pe]

i am joking dont read into my claim

[L4pe]

Don't worry about my role because I'm getting shot night one once cakes flips mafia, lmfao.

I don't need to find anyone to shitpost with.

unfortunate

shitposting is my only skill

[L4pe]

The fact Noraa dodged addressing my townread on her is pretty damn dodgy too

what townread?

I had a light townread on you back when you had 6 posts
I’m not happy I stuck my neck out for you only to get repaid with betrayal and disregard

what

[L4pe]

skimming past 4 pages gives me a genuine headache

all i got was that gamma is still fluctuating between weirdchamp town and weirdchamp scum

noraa is trying uber hard to save cakez (for ? reasons)

cakez is being wagoned (for ? reasons)

and i am beginning to like firebringer

i am considering dipping out of thread until the morning since anime awaits and i need to wake up semi early

[L4pe]

Also I think as long as I don’t get overly critical I can read Cakez as town properly
VOTE: Noraa
I wanna push this more than Cakez rn

lmfao.
ok ive decided.
imma claim.
im a blade. whichever driver wants to target gamma tonight should link me.

lol nope
I won’t claim whether I’m a driver or blade but part of my role is probably quite good for leashing a scummy player

okay ive decided on "weirdchamp town"

congratulations

[L4pe]

stop claiming

yes thank you

[L4pe]

I said leashing a SCUMMY player. Not scum.

Is this TMI that I am town?

well this is grasping at straws

[L4pe]

prolly scum somewhere in that weird pool of people who aren't lurking but also aren't particularly active
people like (cobra, reagan bush, beeboy, Maria, MWNN)

i agree and have in fact predicted that you would make this exact post 12 hours ago

hence why my vote has never left the prime suspect

[L4pe]

prolly scum somewhere in that weird pool of people who aren't lurking but also aren't particularly active
people like (cobra, reagan bush, beeboy, Maria, MWNN)

i agree and have in fact predicted that you would make this exact post 12 hours ago

hence why my vote has never left the prime suspect

???

humor. ive been parked on beeboy for literal ages

come on

[L4pe]

You want me to vote him?

no

im just saying i didnt like him from the start and someone reinforcing that is kind of cool

[L4pe]

gutread dunn as town but somewhat worried by him seeming to actually give a shit

is this a bad thing

[L4pe]

i am going to sleep ping me if anything actually happens

[L4pe]

do i

have

to backread

[L4pe]

do i

have

to backread

I can't read backwards. I'd front read

not going to then

whats new

[L4pe]

oh i found the post

l4pe is scum btw

Hottake!

What don’t you like about them?

lot of neutral commentary filler type posts when i went bck over the iso and i didn't like the stuff about asking for people to sort, 1288 is pretty empty. i may wake up in the morning and hate this read though who knows

i mean fair enough i havent played a game of mafia seriously in a literal year

so

im not used to actually trying as either alignment

[L4pe]

oh i found the post

l4pe is scum btw

Hottake!

What don’t you like about them?

lot of neutral commentary filler type posts when i went bck over the iso and i didn't like the stuff about asking for people to sort, 1288 is pretty empty. i may wake up in the morning and hate this read though who knows

i mean fair enough i havent played a game of mafia seriously in a literal year

so

im not used to actually trying as either alignment

should this make me town? nah

im just laying out what you should expect, and that is overall lots of shitposting

maybe i will put in a notable amount of effort later

[L4pe]

Ok
I can see that

But I have my own issue, L4pe how is BM’s spamminess not bad? I’ve cooled off on the murderlust but I still think BM isn’t a good influence.

i did not see this question

i was certain i explained why in an addendum tho

[L4pe]

I wish LLD would come talk to us

mood

VOTE: lady lambdadelta

[L4pe]

I wish LLD would come talk to us

mood

VOTE: lady lambdadelta

Why vote here?
Why (and this is a question directed at Cakez as well) do you want more cooks in the kitchen during a game that is as comically high volume as this one?

vote isnt doing anything on beeboy isnt it

and besides, with regard to antitown behavior, i think lld is actually worse than gamma or bm in that regard

also, the game is technically high volume overall, but how much is even happening at the moment?

[L4pe]

and besides, with regard to antitown behavior, i think lld is actually worse than gamma or bm in that regard

Elaborate?

borderline contentless posts

the equivalent of answering every question and commenting on every other post with one line

[L4pe]

and besides, with regard to antitown behavior, i think lld is actually worse than gamma or bm in that regard

Elaborate?

borderline contentless posts

the equivalent of answering every question and commenting on every other post with one line

>=(

case in point

[L4pe]

VOTE: mariar

[L4pe]

VOTE: mariar

come on man, we need consensus here!

want to reconsider consensus?

[L4pe]

VOTE: mariar

YO WE VOTING CLAIRE
HYPE

VOTE: MariaR

This is my beetlejuice.

i cant believe this is your most notable post in the past ~18 hours

VOTE: mariar

come on man, we need consensus here!

want to reconsider consensus?

not to maria, no

somewhat fair

thats not the point though

he's actually on the playerlist, i checked

this is the point

[L4pe]

ngl this game is going so fast it is making it hard for me to want to play.
I love how someone checked the playerlist ngl.

stop :L

[L4pe]

i hate being ahead of the curve but being unable to explain why

[L4pe]

Votecount 1.11

[10] SirCakez (ManWithNoName, Bell, Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald, midwaybear, Lady Lambdadelta, Guillotina, Fermis Flames, MariaR, Cabd)
[4] noraa (Cobra Kai, Firebringer, SirCakez, Flavor Leaf)
[2] Lady Lambdadelta (Brian Skies, REAGAN BUSH 84)
[2] MariaR (l4pe, beeboy)
[1] Cobra Kai (noraa)
[1] Flavor Leaf (unwnd)
[1] midwaybear (Battle Mage)

[1] Not Voting (Will catch up later maybe)

With 22 alive, it is 12 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-11-30 13:00:00)

This is where we are, huh?

Putting away the bigguns...

[2] MariaR (l4pe, beeboy)
[1] Cobra Kai (noraa)
[1] Flavor Leaf (unwnd)
[1] midwaybear (Battle Mage)

[1] Not Voting (Will catch up later maybe)

I'd like everyone in this list to tell me...

Cake, Noraa, both? Don't gotta vote em, but wanna know where you stand. In your own words. As of this post.

theyre both hmm. obnoxious is a strong word but something within that ballpark

i know you wrote up a cake case, yeah? mind reposting so i dont need to read back so far after i finish showering? would be cool

[L4pe]

i know you wrote up a cake case, yeah? mind reposting so i dont need to read back so far after i finish showering? would be cool

2439

thank you

ill read after shower

back later

[L4pe]

eating dinner dont write 3 more pages while im gone please

redit: fuck

(redit stands for "retroactive edit" and i guess its your equivalent of a "ninja edit" or something)

[L4pe]

yeah we use "pre edit" (pedit)

Same difference though.

Get in boys, we're fucking wagoning obvscum.

"retroactive" is cooler than "pre"

[L4pe]

reading the d2 start to the thread i must only say i have regrets

but i will not explain what they are

[L4pe]

If it helps, I am a confirmed blade after last night. I linked up with a driver that will testify for me if need be.

Also I have evidence that someone might be scum based on my night action.

Whoever lied about their role should link with me tonight because I want to verify something. Not doing it is a full on scum claim. There is possibility this person is town but I'll have to see tonight.

its almost too easy

VOTE: noraa

[L4pe]

If it helps, I am a confirmed blade after last night. I linked up with a driver that will testify for me if need be.

Also I have evidence that someone might be scum based on my night action.

Whoever lied about their role should link with me tonight because I want to verify something. Not doing it is a full on scum claim. There is possibility this person is town but I'll have to see tonight.

its almost too easy

VOTE: noraa

[L4pe]

doubleposting EW but yea noraas scum guys

[L4pe]

@Mod VLA until Monday, please. Fakesgiving is this weekend with my parents

unfortunate

be seeing you then i suppose

[L4pe]

I think it might actually be that easy.

have not felt this good abt a vote in literal months so yeah

[L4pe]

Why the fuck does being confirmed blade matter

I feel like its towny to not have lied about my role since drivers don't have abilities and shit so claiming blade is like claiming pr.

Claiming blade doesn't make you town.

That being said, @Cabd, noraa feels like a flailing towny to me

is there a way to bookmark a post

i want to get a retroactive look at this later and see if its a real thought

[L4pe]

Hmm now I'm expecting something big.

im expecting it as well and hoping for the opposite

[L4pe]

Why the fuck does being confirmed blade matter

I feel like its towny to not have lied about my role since drivers don't have abilities and shit so claiming blade is like claiming pr.

Claiming blade doesn't make you town.

That being said, @Cabd, noraa feels like a flailing towny to me

is there a way to bookmark a post

i want to get a retroactive look at this later and see if its a real thought

What's wrong with it?

the answer to this only matters depending on noraas alignment

[L4pe]

my other ability is basically an entire wagon rolecop. I rolecopped all of Cake's wagon from yesterday.

Claim my role

I'm fine with outting now if you do it

but this is a ballsy play to make if youre really partners

so

ill leave it

[L4pe]

Given their proximities on the wagon and the timing of it I find it highly unlikely Dunn/Noraa are scum together.

fair enough. just thinking

[L4pe]

my other ability is basically an entire wagon rolecop. I rolecopped all of Cake's wagon from yesterday.

Claim my role

ur a blade.

This is correct

is the result relevant to her alignment though

[L4pe]

VOTE: Noraa
Okay now I'm sleepin'

im fine with this

dont sleep forever

[L4pe]

my other ability is basically an entire wagon rolecop. I rolecopped all of Cake's wagon from yesterday.

Claim my role

ur a blade.

This is correct

is the result relevant to her alignment though

Do we think that scum would have a role that rolecops a whole wagon

I think a better question to ask is: What is Noraa's flavor? Because my role is an indication that roles are heavily tied to flavor, and from Sircakez flip we know that scum have 'bad guy' flavor

i think its more likely that scum has that role over town

i mean, thats how the line between "specific" and "vague" power roles is generally drawn anyway - the former is generally scum aligned, while the latter is town aligned

regarding flavor, i mean if you want to instigate a flavor claim fiesta i wont stop you but given what someone else commented on the mods competence i dont think itll be that easy

worth a shot though i guess

[L4pe]

yeah no way bork and penguin have anything other than solid fakeclaim flavor set aside.


hell, Bork randomzies all flavor, the main characters could be scum for all he cares.


Gameplay fairness > perfect flavor distribution.

handy to note

Still waiting for Nora to out the liar. No reason to wait until tonight because chances are you won't live that long.

I'm not going to reveal any more about my night results for the time being. I need some time to ISO and think. This is partly why I wanted to in with a hydra here - because heavy mech games are confusing to me.

stalling for time!

[L4pe]

theres only 1 final destination for this days elimination

believe me

[L4pe]

theres only 1 final destination for this days elimination

believe me

not softing

just edgy

[L4pe]

Hm I'm not sure that's what he meant. I still think he is a new player. He has a 2020 join date on MU and I don't think they do alts there.

no alts are definitely not only allowed on mu but celebrated

i have like 3 alt accounts for the funnies

doesnt rule out the possibility of him going under a separate username

[L4pe]

driver

OH well I found a solid driver claim. Yeah ok. This is the scum.

explain

[L4pe]

I don't understand why the 4 day long night has everyone wanting to end the day super fast again. Maybe someone comes in with role related stuff or something, and I want to talk about Guillotina more (They seem scummy to me and their last post felt liek deflecting)

old post but blitz votes are really advantageous to me as a player because for some reason i have an EXTREMELY fast burn playstyle so the earlier in the day that shit gets done the better

[L4pe]

test

[L4pe]

iirc Noraa just said it checks for blade or not blade, not full role

yes thats exactly what he (reagan) said

[L4pe]

yknow i could swear beebot had more than 22 posts

[L4pe]

yknow i could swear beebot had more than 22 posts

Why is that? I thought he was very lurky.

compare general post counts and youll see the issue

iirc its like a third of the next highest poster

[L4pe]

compare general post counts and youll see the issue

iirc its like a third of the next highest poster

Ok? But I was asking how you got the impression that he seemed to be posting more than he was.

feels too little considering the fact that i still remember hes in the game :p

[L4pe]

I mean I guess it'd take them reversing their class claims completely, which is stupid to begin with, but 2-3 doing it is completely plausible, as are them being on a Day 1 wagon.

This easily gives multiple guilties in a single night lol

Mafia are unlikely to fakeclaim driver when they're really a blade, and vice versa.

This is

already confirmable

if a town driver targets a scum blade fakeclaiming driver. Note that there is no option to select

nobody

when asked to pair up,

you have to pick one of the drivers, or it selects automatically

This is something that already exists in the game without the role claim.

You're not wrong, and all 5 would be truly stupid, but given the existence of Driver/Blades and depending on how useful scum pairings are there are plausible incentives for a few to selectively fakeclaim.

i feel like discussing this situation is kind of stupid and i do wish you guys could focus on something more productive

i think youre both towny so this is a pointless argument

[L4pe]

feels too little considering the fact that i still remember hes in the game :p

Do you normally make a lot a lot of filler posts then? I'm not seeing the purpose behind you saying that.

on occasion yes

Noraa you have zero chance of getting my head on a pike this game.

It's actually so low a number that representing it might cause buffer overflow!

underflow*

[L4pe]

I mean I guess it'd take them reversing their class claims completely, which is stupid to begin with, but 2-3 doing it is completely plausible, as are them being on a Day 1 wagon.

This easily gives multiple guilties in a single night lol

Mafia are unlikely to fakeclaim driver when they're really a blade, and vice versa.

This is

already confirmable

if a town driver targets a scum blade fakeclaiming driver. Note that there is no option to select

nobody

when asked to pair up,

you have to pick one of the drivers, or it selects automatically

This is something that already exists in the game without the role claim.

You're not wrong, and all 5 would be truly stupid, but given the existence of Driver/Blades and depending on how useful scum pairings are there are plausible incentives for a few to selectively fakeclaim.

i feel like discussing this situation is kind of stupid and i do wish you guys could focus on something more productive

i think youre both towny so this is a pointless argument

I'm not arguing that reagan is scum, so it's not a pointless argument

I'm arguing that noraa is town

my bad, i thought you were arguing the earth was flat

its obvious youre not going to agree on whether this role is town or scum aligned so why not let the flip decide

[L4pe]

Mafia are unlikely to fakeclaim driver when they're really a blade, and vice versa.

disagree actually. I remember someone on day 1 was saying there were too many blade claims. That'd be a reason to claim driver from a scum stand point. Cuz its basically the equivalent of "if there's too much town power, all the vt claims have to be true" in a normal game.

President's argument that my role itself is scummy is stupid considering scum have fake claims so that would mean there's like no way to tell whether or not a person is scum by the claim ig?

It's a decent argument cuz its true it could potentially out multiple scum on day 1 but at the same time, most people only softed their claims on day 1, never full claimed. And there could be all sorts of weird shit like informed goons or something.

Idk if this makes sense but I feel like that was a TMI slip from Presidents.

hey important note

this post really made me realize something but i want far more pressure on noraa to confirm it

can we please ramp up the noraa votes

[L4pe]

its obvious youre not going to agree on whether this role is town or scum aligned so why not let the flip decide

Uh... why are you trying to shut me down? I'm arguing against eliminating noraa today

Why is it "obvious" that I won't agree?

my bad, not trying to govern your pov here; typing without thinking so im not sure how to get the words out

but what i mean is, ultimately, if you do reach a conclusion, what good will it do

[L4pe]

Mafia are unlikely to fakeclaim driver when they're really a blade, and vice versa.

disagree actually. I remember someone on day 1 was saying there were too many blade claims. That'd be a reason to claim driver from a scum stand point. Cuz its basically the equivalent of "if there's too much town power, all the vt claims have to be true" in a normal game.

President's argument that my role itself is scummy is stupid considering scum have fake claims so that would mean there's like no way to tell whether or not a person is scum by the claim ig?

It's a decent argument cuz its true it could potentially out multiple scum on day 1 but at the same time, most people only softed their claims on day 1, never full claimed. And there could be all sorts of weird shit like informed goons or something.

Idk if this makes sense but I feel like that was a TMI slip from Presidents.

hey important note

this post really made me realize something but i want far more pressure on noraa to confirm it

can we please ramp up the noraa votes

high conviction on this tho, and bumping for new page

[L4pe]

high conviction on this tho, and bumping for new page

if u have a question for me, I'm already at like E-4 or something. Ask away.

i dont have a question

[L4pe]

high conviction on this tho, and bumping for new page

if u have a question for me, I'm already at like E-4 or something. Ask away.

i dont have a question

actually, thats a lie; i have at least 5 questions, but i have a feeling youll answer them of your own volition without knowing

[L4pe]

Oh we're not killing wolf Regan yet?

Sad

I comment on this in my wall too!

I think he makes sense on the scumteam but I'm not certain enough in it. I'm really thinking-

Cakez/Guill/Dunn/(MWB/MWNN)/Reagan.

You seem back and forth on Noraa rn :/

good catch im confused now too

[L4pe]

doubleposting EW but yea noraas scum guys

WHY???

vote noraa and youll see why

i promise you

[L4pe]

Read up to this page. Bookmark.
I'm signing off this game for the night. Have other things to do. See everyone on the other side in a world called tomorrow

i understand this looks horrendous but this literally confirms noraa as scum for me

[L4pe]

I literally don't mind which we eliminate at this point btw.

I'm just burnt out from Mafia for a few days I think.
Never had to deal with this feeling before. I usually pace myself better.

mood

i have a headache

im going to watch some anime be back later

[L4pe]

My characters name is like Poopie something or another. I forgot. One sec. Lemme go find the pm.

Survey time.
Do you have a decent knowledge of the main characters of the game the flavor is based on, yes or no? This is a question to EVERYONE currently pushing Noraa.

im not going to repost cabds post

ill let him do it himself

[L4pe]

someone link me i want something to do tonight

last night was a disappointment

[L4pe]

someone link me i want something to do tonight

last night was a disappointment

that is a claim on 2 levels yes

[L4pe]

I need this answered:

Best protect target:
Best roleblock target:
Wild:

feel free to not answer if you're scared

Protect target would be randing between myself, cobra and leafie.
Roleblock would be whichever of Noraa/Guillatina isn't flipped today.

Wild: I sure would love to see the a vig shot hit lurkmass and have the ability to shoot them again to motivate them!

None of these are at all controversial so answering them is kind of... duh?

never shoot me

my role is important

ill bite the bullet with this post even

the only reason im not claiming is because my role is associated with knowing noraa is scum so theres literally no point

[L4pe]

I need this answered:

Best protect target:
Best roleblock target:
Wild:

feel free to not answer if you're scared

Protect target would be randing between myself, cobra and leafie.
Roleblock would be whichever of Noraa/Guillatina isn't flipped today.

Wild: I sure would love to see the a vig shot hit lurkmass and have the ability to shoot them again to motivate them!

None of these are at all controversial so answering them is kind of... duh?

never shoot me

my role is important

ill bite the bullet with this post even

the only reason im not claiming is because my role is associated with knowing noraa is scum so theres literally no point

this isnt panic

i just know i wont be nearly as invested as i am tonight come tomorrow morning so i dont want to be shot for lurking

[L4pe]

I need this answered:

Best protect target:
Best roleblock target:
Wild:

feel free to not answer if you're scared

Protect target would be randing between myself, cobra and leafie.
Roleblock would be whichever of Noraa/Guillatina isn't flipped today.

Wild: I sure would love to see the a vig shot hit lurkmass and have the ability to shoot them again to motivate them!

None of these are at all controversial so answering them is kind of... duh?

never shoot me

my role is important

ill bite the bullet with this post even

the only reason im not claiming is because my role is associated with knowing noraa is scum so theres literally no point

I uh... wasn't calling your lurkmass though.

proactive post, cabd

[L4pe]

Don't agree with targeting Flavor Leaf, if there exists a beneficial role that involves results/protection then there is likely something scum has to counteract this. That's just basic setup philosophy. I think you should protect someone who is town who isn't spearheading conversation but something scum would consider a safe kill. Then I think you should roleblock a lurker slot and see what comes of it. Wildcard? Do something controversial.

You realize I'm the role that got an investigation, right

Yes and I'm saying now that you're outed, scum is likely going to try and stop you from getting investigations. I can't see an investigation role just having free reign in a 22-player setup.

That's fine. They don't know how my role works.

i will also bump that there are 2 of us

plus a competent towncore

so.

[L4pe]

If l4pe is town then I definitely think Beeboy was just nuthugging to two townies as scum lol

would not put it past him

zzz

[L4pe]

honestly dont link with me actually itll be pointless

[L4pe]

Unwnd I’m pretty sure beeboy is lost in the abyss. I could be wrong.

i think so too yea

wonder if hes ok but whatre you gonna do

[L4pe]

can someone translate cabd i did not understand a single thing in my catch up

also i really dont understand the spiffy wagon

[L4pe]

im serious on the spiffy thing

from what i can tell the push on him is some arbitrary association between him and noraa that i am completely unaware of

does anyone want to clarify

[L4pe]

im serious on the spiffy thing

from what i can tell the push on him is some arbitrary association between him and noraa that i am completely unaware of

does anyone want to clarify

They think there's exactly one scum between Spiffeh + LLD based on Day 1 interactions with Cakez wagon.

They don't like Spiffeh refusing to link so he can use a 'vig' that they believe Guill would have used. They also don't like Nacho asking for Spiffeh to link up with them. They are afraid it's scum Spiffeh trying to link up with a buddy to use another ability before being eliminated.

They also don't believe Guill wouldn't have shot Noraa N1.

thank you

yeah the role claim makes no sense

[L4pe]

honestly something doesnt add up tho

there is a universe where spiffys role makes sense and i really really dont think hed be this desperate to get a shot off knowing his scum partner is pretty much sentenced to death and the game being already tilted vastly out of his favor?

or maybe its just me

[L4pe]

honestly something doesnt add up tho

there is a universe where spiffys role makes sense and i really really dont think hed be this desperate to get a shot off knowing his scum partner is pretty much sentenced to death and the game being already tilted vastly out of his favor?

or maybe its just me

then why did Guillo replace out from "not caring" if they had a vig shot. I don't see that happening. I think Guillo got dissinterested because they are scum who lost their scum partner, their other partner is Noraa, and then at least 1 of their partners is probably lurking or inactive.

im rly just willing to wager he went afk and forgot to submit or some shit?

idk i dont know what goes on in his head.

i think the odds he is town are like marginally higher than the odds he is scum

unless he is hard throwing his hand

[L4pe]

then why did Guillo replace out from "not caring" if they had a vig shot.

I don't think he ever said this.

i assume its an implicit message

[L4pe]

then why did Guillo replace out from "not caring" if they had a vig shot.

I don't think he ever said this.

i assume its an implicit message

I'm pretty sure he did care, just didn't want to deal with the 120+ page spamfest regardless of his alignment.

i think so too, just trying to rationalize flavors thinking

[L4pe]

... it’s Flavor Leaf. There is no rationalizing him.

you havent seen me try

[L4pe]

for the record im still catching up but i have a very bad headachr

[L4pe]

ill vote spiff

but its not for you

its for my own reasons

just let me finish my work

should take abt 10 mins

[L4pe]

Reagan appears to be trapped in a mental labyrinth of his own making, unable to discern the correct way to turn and too senile to realize he should just follow the right hand side.

He did however point out that it's kind of a dick play and he's right, especially since Spiffeh is much more of an asset than Guillotina was, so no.

and now as someone who takes morals more seriously than most i am once again conflicted

cool

[L4pe]

by the way my take is that one of lld/claire dies before d4

im not falling for a strategy like that again

[L4pe]

by the way my take is that one of lld/claire dies before d4

im not falling for a strategy like that again

who is claire

mariar

[L4pe]

@unwnd i appreciate your wall, and im definitely kind of curious about the maria lld thing- ive fallen victim to a few scum "masonries" or the like, so its something i tend to keep an eye out for

with that said, i am sorry but i am *not* a competent player, my friend. ive never taken this game seriously to the degree where i would put 100% effort into it or would sacrifice time i would normally use for other things. very few times have i actually gone out of my way to attempt a carry, and those few times have left permanent strains on how much time i can put in.

so, im sorry to break it to you, but i dont think you should expect much from me. ill try as hard as i allow myself to, though

with that said

i like the maria sus. good. thats the kind of pov ive been interested in; is maria just scum who linked with lld and attempted to pocket her? are they partners?

i think its important that this is evaluated. im genuinely curious about the meaning of that claim

redit 1: i dunno man. someone remind me who claimed what check on whom

theories can begin from there i think

redit 2: now that meta is mentioned, i vaguely remember beeboy having an idle-heavy playstyle as both alignments, so im not particularly interested in reading him at the moment
-------------------

anyway

im off to bed. have a headache rivalling the pain one feels attending a u2 concert. not looking forward to waking up, but what can ya do?

laters

[L4pe]

I definitely still see the scumteam having at least one form of competence doing a good amount of work for them. Noraaa definitely got coached in some capacity to fakelcaim and just well, did it poorly. That isn't a jab at her but to me it's pretty obvious. Right now I've been looking at the PoEs and I don't see many people who are either seemingly here or at that level that I'd consider them the brains of the operation. This has been a concern to me, because it certainly wasn't Guillo who claims to not even be from this site/trolling who lead a lynch on prominent fire hydra.

okay i reloaded one last time and im glad i did because i did not want to miss this post

and i agree

[L4pe]

I definitely still see the scumteam having at least one form of competence doing a good amount of work for them. Noraaa definitely got coached in some capacity to fakelcaim and just well, did it poorly. That isn't a jab at her but to me it's pretty obvious. Right now I've been looking at the PoEs and I don't see many people who are either seemingly here or at that level that I'd consider them the brains of the operation. This has been a concern to me, because it certainly wasn't Guillo who claims to not even be from this site/trolling who lead a lynch on prominent fire hydra.

okay i reloaded one last time and im glad i did because i did not want to miss this post

and i agree

Who fits this pool in your opinion?

hello

a) i am supposed to be asleep

b) i have played exactly 1 day and a half of this game with you people, excepting 2 players, 1 of whom i have only played short games with

i have no idea

good night

[L4pe]

this is an exceptionally long twilight

[L4pe]

evening

maria 99% town

[L4pe]

evening

maria 99% town

im also applying this to lld by the way

dont touch either

[L4pe]

I trusted LLD and Maria before it was cool.

look, im not going to get hoodwinked by something that appears to be a masonry again

never blindly trusting one

[L4pe]

I trusted LLD and Maria before it was cool.

look, im not going to get hoodwinked by something that appears to be a masonry again

never blindly trusting one

I appear to be missing trauma context.

deliberate

[L4pe]

submitted night action for n3 because i didnt realize scum conceded

cool bananas

[L4pe]

Who did you cop N3?

it wasnt a cop, just a parity chat checker

i went
noraa -> lld -> gamma emerald

[L4pe]

on that note i also had a wall if noraas wagon ever had significant resistance

fortunately didnt need to use it, but reads as follows:

i realize im going to be doing this for mildly selfish reasons (being: maximizing my fast burn playstyle and maximizing town advantage moving into further days) but i dont particularly care enough to stop myself so ill say it right now

noraa is scum because role related reasons. i have extremely good reason to believe that my night result is not only relevant but accurate. i wont go into it further than that, but if you really really badly want to know, youre free to... i dont know, vote me out instead? cop me? whatever?

im obviously not going to disclose the details because i do tend to enjoy living in scums heads rent free but i can promise you that noraa will flip red

and if you dont believe me, well, i did say earlier this would only end in one specific person being voted out

[L4pe]

anyway, ggs

im going to bug some people to finally let me chat in the discord

[L4pe]

anyway, ggs

im going to bug some people to finally let me chat in the discord

?

dont worry about it