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tammy are you familiar with the game we are playing at all because i am not and could really use your help in figuring out wtf is going on
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this setup is similar to that setup in that receivers needed sensors in order for their power to work
this setup is different because only 1 driver can fit in with 1 blade and the driver gets to choose the target which kind of fucks my previous mechanical thoughts all to hell if i remember my previous mechanical thoughts which i'm only vaguely confident of
i do have some mechanical thoughts that i'd like to share with you once i talk them over with my wonderful stellar hydra partner. i want to talk them over w/him first because they're still super half-baked like everything else in my life + i'm worried that i'm so charismatic about things that the second i float them out into the world then everyone will immediately sheep them and then it will be super difficult to put pandora back in her box, you know?
realistically though i see your question because muffin, the greatest hydra partner the Southern Hemisphere has to offer, told me about it, but i don't remember the set up well enough nor do i remember my previous thoughts enough to give an answer that isn't a horrible mess like the above. i will give you a better answer when i skim that game a little more, but that won't be today.see username- Will catch up later maybe
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you meant to townread Nacho.In post 1449, Brian Skies wrote:Tentative townread to the muffin head of that hydra.
i forgive you this once because you haven't been blessed with all this greatness in a SUPER long time but you only get one.see username- Will catch up later maybe
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i don't understand your thought process here - do you mind spelling it out for me?In post 1453, Brian Skies wrote:
I know Nacho made that post, but based on the contents of it, I'm townreading the Muffin head.In post 1451, Fermis Flames wrote:
Nacho head.In post 1449, Brian Skies wrote:Tentative townread to the muffin head of that hydra.
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are you townreading him because you feel bad that he sucks so much? because if that's the case you still should be townreading me because i'm putting up with him and am a bit of a saint as a result. are you townreading him because you think my posting would suck less if we were scum together? because i also would let you know that thought process is incorrect - i am a strong & independent black man and no one can prevent me from making shitty posts regardless of alignment.see username- Will catch up later maybe
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if you're just trying to hurt my feelings here you're doing a fantastic jobIn post 1460, Brian Skies wrote:
This post makes me townread Muffin more, tbqh.In post 1450, Will catch up later maybe wrote:this setup is similar to that setup in that receivers needed sensors in order for their power to work
this setup is different because only 1 driver can fit in with 1 blade and the driver gets to choose the target which kind of fucks my previous mechanical thoughts all to hell if i remember my previous mechanical thoughts which i'm only vaguely confident of
i do have some mechanical thoughts that i'd like to share with you once i talk them over with my wonderful stellar hydra partner. i want to talk them over w/him first because they're still super half-baked like everything else in my life + i'm worried that i'm so charismatic about things that the second i float them out into the world then everyone will immediately sheep them and then it will be super difficult to put pandora back in her box, you know?
realistically though i see your question because muffin, the greatest hydra partner the Southern Hemisphere has to offer, told me about it, but i don't remember the set up well enough nor do i remember my previous thoughts enough to give an answer that isn't a horrible mess like the above. i will give you a better answer when i skim that game a little more, but that won't be today.see username- Will catch up later maybe
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while i'm still a bit disappointed i didn't manage to roll scum i am relieved that you are town because rolling town with you scum here would have been my own personal brand of hell.In post 1455, Fermis Flames wrote:
I'm in the enviable position of not having to stress about trying to read you!In post 1452, Will catch up later maybe wrote:
you meant to townread Nacho.In post 1449, Brian Skies wrote:Tentative townread to the muffin head of that hydra.
i forgive you this once because you haven't been blessed with all this greatness in a SUPER long time but you only get one.
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I appreciate you very much even though I don't know you.In post 1471, unwnd wrote:I take back my thought about 'let's end the day', I think that was largely selfish and that I will have to adjust to the thread accordingly. I think what matters in these large games is not going back and re-reading all this nonsense, but just taking in small pockets of conversation that can build trust between two, three, four etc. people.
I'm not going to have time to keep up with a 60 page in 8 hour volume and thus those pages will mostly be left for muffin to muddle through.
If you give me a day with a reasonable length then I will absolutely do everything in my power to make an impact but I simply don't work a schedule that allows me to make an impact without time and I don't think it's far to end the day before I have a chance to do anything at all - just puts me in the continuous catchup loop and adds some grumpiness to my life and a grumpy nacho is one that probably gets mislynched, so again, I really really appreciate this.see username- Will catch up later maybe
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ok i'm gonna pretend i didn't fuck that upIn post 1475, Fermis Flames wrote:
Uh. this is ffery.In post 1472, Will catch up later maybe wrote:
while i'm still a bit disappointed i didn't manage to roll scum i am relieved that you are town because rolling town with you scum here would have been my own personal brand of hell.In post 1455, Fermis Flames wrote:
I'm in the enviable position of not having to stress about trying to read you!In post 1452, Will catch up later maybe wrote:
you meant to townread Nacho.In post 1449, Brian Skies wrote:Tentative townread to the muffin head of that hydra.
i forgive you this once because you haven't been blessed with all this greatness in a SUPER long time but you only get one.
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ah, yes.
this is Team Mafia White Flag Syndrome.
so Gamma's experience was that he scumread a bunch of townies for being on lynches that he doesn't agree with. if he says it tests positive he's saying he checked his bias at the door a bit and that his reasons for scumreading them were poor. if he says it tests negative it means that his initial suspicious was legitimate.see username- Will catch up later maybe
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i hesitated for a moment because it seemed strange for you to form THAT confident of a read on me and THIS early no less but i felt good about my early posting and you recognizing it made me feel good inside so i didn't question it as much as i clearly should haveIn post 1492, Fermis Flames wrote:
you wouldn't be concerned?In post 1489, Will catch up later maybe wrote:i thought you didn't have to stress about reading me because i was so town but i was also a little full of myself at that moment
good think the world knows how to check that ego amirite
The only times I go hard town read on you this early were what westeros games (rip) and when I'm scum?
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but if tammy made that post then it would be a townread - she wouldn't have to read me anymore because she already stared into my soul and saw my green townie soul insides looking backIn post 1502, Fermis Flames wrote:
Just to be clear, I've not formed a confident read on you. I'm outsourcing the job to Tammy and Cabd.In post 1499, Will catch up later maybe wrote:
i hesitated for a moment because it seemed strange for you to form THAT confident of a read on me and THIS early no less but i felt good about my early posting and you recognizing it made me feel good inside so i didn't question it as much as i clearly should haveIn post 1492, Fermis Flames wrote:
you wouldn't be concerned?In post 1489, Will catch up later maybe wrote:i thought you didn't have to stress about reading me because i was so town but i was also a little full of myself at that moment
good think the world knows how to check that ego amirite
The only times I go hard town read on you this early were what westeros games (rip) and when I'm scum?
Thought you'd be paranoid if you actually thought that was me.
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i know i know i knowIn post 1503, Fermis Flames wrote:
I do like your posting! But I'm nowhere near not gonna stress about it levels.In post 1499, Will catch up later maybe wrote:
i hesitated for a moment because it seemed strange for you to form THAT confident of a read on me and THIS early no less but i felt good about my early posting and you recognizing it made me feel good inside so i didn't question it as much as i clearly should haveIn post 1492, Fermis Flames wrote:
you wouldn't be concerned?In post 1489, Will catch up later maybe wrote:i thought you didn't have to stress about reading me because i was so town but i was also a little full of myself at that moment
good think the world knows how to check that ego amirite
The only times I go hard town read on you this early were what westeros games (rip) and when I'm scum?
Thought you'd be paranoid if you actually thought that was me.
i wasn't expecting you to nor should you even be townreading me at this point
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i agree w/cabd.In post 1244, Fermis Flames wrote:I speed-read and have done nothing but read this game since I got home. Gonna try to step away cuz I'm getting a headache.
I haven't read my other heads thoughts to completion yet, as I didn't have time to do that too, but right now where I'm at:
Town to varying degrees: Battle Mage (I just like his posting. Call me stupid but him telling everyone he's a blade in the way he has makes me chuckle and that's my weakness), Gamma (once he finally stopped arguing with BM I started feeling better about him.), Cabd, Flavor Leaf (this is probably actually premature, but I like his stuff so far. I don't feel completely inept at reading him, so he stays here until I start feeling uncomfortable), l4pe and unwnd (this one I'm slotting to see exactly how I feel about it being in this group. I've gone back and forth on a few of the reasonings for their posts, but right now I'm leaning towards me just not agreeing with their logic rather than they're scummy.)
most people are shades of null. I'm actually surprised I have that many people that I have in a townish pool! midway bear, bell, and brian might belong in that group as well but meh they're on positive levels of null.
both my other head feel pretty strong about cakez scum as far as I understand, and I kinda want to throw in with theirs and cabd's confidence on cakez but for me yeah he could flip scum but I'm not personally that confident. This could be because I'm still feeling guilty about last game when I had a little good thing to keep town reading him for and I didn't voice it even though last game was an attempted game throw anyway. BUT.
Think noraa is just scum.
weirdly enough muffin and i both kind of like unwnd.
i think cakez is town.
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mostly gut but this:
i also think that he deserves a bit of breathing room based on that and that alone. i don't know if cakez has changed a bunch since i've been gone but he's not really the type to get razzled very easily but i think this is fairly obviously real emotion.In post 1331, SirCakez wrote:Cabd's tunnel on me is probably town as much I hate it but I'm just so fed up with him and I don't want to engage him more because I like him and don't want to get in a fight. but also I wish he would not be like this.
if it's a case where we are correct and he's scum just trying to make cabd good on him but this isn't someone that you push a lynch through on in 24 hours - it's disrespectful to him as a person and a player.see username- Will catch up later maybe
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thanks.In post 903, Noraa wrote:
This is clearly an alt made specifically for this game. locktown. I like the name.In post 893, Will catch up later maybe wrote:im town too btw
wouldn't lie about a serious matter like that
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it was my idea.
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FYI to all townies:
i'm a day lie detector role and this came up as a LIEIn post 1244, Fermis Flames wrote:I speed-read
nothing has to happen with it immediately, just keep it on the backburner folkssee username- Will catch up later maybe
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oh except real quick
tammy i read through noraa
i don't really agree with your scumread there - the sum total of her posting is 4 parts complaining and 1 part messing around and i think if she was scum she might make more of an effort to cultivate an image.
this was a hard core skim though that i'll try to revisit later maybe but the attitude is too bad for me to be mad, you dig?see username- Will catch up later maybe
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you could call it "too scummy to be scum" if you'd like but i pride myself on being more nuancedIn post 1535, Fermis Flames wrote:
twtbaw?In post 1529, Will catch up later maybe wrote:oh except real quick
tammy i read through noraa
i don't really agree with your scumread there - the sum total of her posting is 4 parts complaining and 1 part messing around and i think if she was scum she might make more of an effort to cultivate an image.
this was a hard core skim though that i'll try to revisit later maybe but the attitude is too bad for me to be mad, you dig?
i still scumread her but not as strongly as I did when I first made that post. But I'll try to word this better later.
also just giving off grumpy nacho vibes i thinksee username- Will catch up later maybe
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When Cabd expresses suspicion in whatever form he so chooses (I'm really rooting for the option that's not a casewall because this is not the game for those), I'll make reading and getting back to him on it a real priority.In post 1533, Fermis Flames wrote:
I didn't answer your question.In post 1526, Will catch up later maybe wrote:i'm fucking exhausted so i'm probably done for the day unless someone wants to take the rare opportunity for a nacho sighting to run something past me
I didn't like Cakez entrance into the game. I didn't like his early to mid timeframe reactions to pressure. I didn't like what he picked at when reacting to some of Cabd's post. for example, the one where Cabd lamented not getting his elim choice over the dethy's in the smoke filled game. I get where you're coming from with regard to the speed and disrespect and I agree. However I'm very concerned that if we let this wagon fade too far it won't be rebuildable.
I think you owe it to Cabd to talk about why he's so strongly thinks Cakez is scum.
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My worry is that I see a lot of myself in Cabd right now. I've also had a lot of good Day 1 scumreads, but I've also murdered countless townies due to hubris and I've caused some emotional anguish in people that I could have avoided and still won the game and normally the big fuck ups come after a couple of big successes.
I struggle seeing genuine in Cakez's posts a vast majority of the time but here I can see that he has some lines that are being crossed - not necessarily alignment indicative - but I think it's important that we give him some space as a result of that - I don't think the slam dunk treatment is necessary to get him lynched, especially on a Day 1.see username- Will catch up later maybe
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Why vote here?In post 1665, L4pe wrote:
moodIn post 1625, SirCakez wrote:I wish LLD would come talk to us
VOTE: lady lambdadelta
Why (and this is a question directed at Cakez as well) do you want more cooks in the kitchen during a game that is as comically high volume as this one?see username- Will catch up later maybe
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What does your treatment of Cabd this game look like as town vs scum?In post 1621, SirCakez wrote:I wouldn't elim any of them today as it stands
Midway is mildly scummy because he won't take a stance on my wagon he just keeps posturing around it
Fire I can't ever read correctly early game
The other two are fine
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I'm asking you to do the opposite of a quick ISO right now.In post 1672, SirCakez wrote:Based on a quick ISO the only thing I disagree with you on is Noraa town
Spend some time with me and my thoughts, Cakez.see username- Will catch up later maybe
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You missed my initial point - this game is already too high volume in that most people are not reading the game in full.In post 1671, SirCakez wrote:LLD is hardly a high volume poster this game
I just would like her insight because I consider her a good scumhunter
In a game like that, I'm grateful that someone who absolutely could be high volume and someone who could be throwing more shit into the mix is instead taking a step back.
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Answer my question in #1670 again - just take a few minutes to actually think about it before answering this time.In post 1674, SirCakez wrote:ok I am here what do you want from me?
Gotta leave for work now, will be back in a long time. Will outline my expectations a bit more clearly when I return if you still don't know what I'm looking for.see username- Will catch up later maybe
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uh so theoretically if you're town in that Party of Five or if you have strong town reads in those 5 names, it's better to vote within that list than outside it tbh
has this been pointed out yet? im totally up to date with this thread and am just testing whether you guys are reading
p sure it aint ffyrmy or firebringer. havent read any midway posts yet but i dont like cakez even if nacho does
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i don't remember why i thought they were scum lol
just remember not liking some posts from them
i know one of the posts i didnt like from l dude was on the first page though, that's all i remember atm
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i have time to read stuff prob tonight so ill look back over posts then if it matters
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i think cakez is more likely flipping town than not
someone who disagrees with me can bet against me
loser has to sheep the winner for as long as we're both alive
only gonna take this up with someone i actually think is town and will honour it though lol
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