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My main suspicion is with Prism, and I feel that his posts thus far have been entertaining but almost to a fault. He feels very excessive in the way he gets his point across and if it doesn't then he resorts to this sorta uncanny approach where he is extra animated about the negative reception
It's scummy as fuck
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I thought Syr was like fine personally but I know that'd be attesting to myself at this pointIn post 2243, petapan wrote:you're being run up because of syr's play and need to claim because we have 3 days to deadlineProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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You're townreading him? I was honestly extremely excited to come in here and vote himIn post 2245, Cabd wrote:Hey dgb there's your scum claim.
The dissonance between Xeno and here was just alarming
I feel like you're a bit different too but for some reason I wasn't noticing it as much, probably because you lack the (excessive) traitProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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I'd prefer a fair shake before you determine thatIn post 2249, notscience wrote:You feel different too. Sorry you had to replace in to a scum slot.Protect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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Before I get to the process Prism, I just wanna know what this weird ass back and forth between you and your previous president all means. Every time I clicked in here that was something that bothered me the most. Sometimes, I would start to think to myself if this was some form of crazy scum theater where you two like obviously leaning into some kinda history with one another to fake bait each other into arguments
But then I found myself really agreeing with Peta's logical sorting and that he wasn't nearly as inclined to being baited. Yet you kept doing it. Why? You've gotten him all pissed off from what I understand, but another thing I note is that you kinda forgive him sometimes and other times when he's not on the thread bickering with you, you go into this type of mode that seems like you're above his complaints and it could make him scum. That type of behavior just doesn't sit right with me, and the conclusion I reached is that at least one of you has to be scum. I'm leaning on you in terms of what I said previously and just digging Peta more in the outcomesProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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As my other thoughts I think Vax's behavior is unchecked and going under the radar. He speaks with emphasis about certain topics but yet he's not here fighting for them. His thread presence seems determined by being the one to have the right opinion and nothing else, which I'm not really a fan of because it is presumptuous and almost like he's taunting the other people for having to actually solve the game. I wasn't absolutely glued-my-eyes-to-screen paying attention but I digress.Protect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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As uncanny as it sounds you compare someone like DGB who is in the trenches and then Vax who is too scared to fight for what he believes and my point becomes clear. Other things I was thinking about is that I was pretty fond of bork's tone in terms of his no bullshit allowed motto, Pooky was being really weird early in the game, Have no opinion on ffery despite her posting a good amount (extended to someone like Skitter) and then the rest of the players I think are merely participating which to me has been a bit distracting, and I think getting rid of the main distraction (Prism) would be beneficial. Another thing I remember is that he was the leading wagon for about 2 or 3 VCs, but now I'm the one being run up?
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I honestly believe you've gotten what he wanted, are you still not convinced he's town?In post 2275, Prism wrote:I respond to certain sections of posts as though I am wrong. Pretty consistent theme you can look through in the two Undertake minis, don't want to link on my phone.
I am absolutely above certain complaints of peta's, in that his opinion of my play is so worthless as to be zero. This sounds malicious, but I would say the same for any other player. Praise and criticism alike both go immediately in the garbage, and it tends to be infuriating for other people to deal with. I play to win the game and not to salvage peta's opinion of me.
I'm pushing him and know he'll get angry for it if he's town, and that he has a right to feel that way.
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Yes, but I'm not sure why you're asking me thisIn post 2278, Vaxkiller wrote:@unwnd
My presence is really that different than half the people in this game?Protect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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I think he's logically sound and if that is something he has capability to do as scum then I'd rather give it preference over you who only wishes to continue the bleedingIn post 2281, Prism wrote:Absolutely not, his reaction at multiple points has made me instantly think he's scum. If he's town he's town and that's on me but him getting angry here is not a grand towntell, he knows he has to do it as scum and I'm not listening to the salty tears.Protect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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Right now my thread perception is that there's a ton of stubbornness needing to be untangled. When I mean that I don't wanna be your unfinished meal, I mean that in a very literal sense. I think people are leaning with their gut on a ton of topics and frothing at the mouth obsessing over results. I think it'd be pretty cool if players I know are capable of perfect-limming scum could find compromise instead of assuming the worst intentions of a slot who merely wanted to be apart of the greater things going on
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I don't think that's true if you've read a bit of my other stream of consciousness posts. I even compared you to a townread of mine.In post 2292, Vaxkiller wrote:You talked about my presence being scummy and I replied that it's not really different than half the people in this game, and you responded: Yes.
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Independently I'm not fond of your actions and you've made yourself a willing target. I think that you're going to maintain the same type of attitude because while it's getting you shit from someone like Peta, the others are buying into the excessivenessIn post 2311, Prism wrote:So, from what I can gather you're skeptical of how I have this weird half-kind, half-aggressive slapping peta's hand away approach as town.
Why does this scream T/S for you if peta's just town and I'm the issue?Protect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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Some people just have bad games, feel left out, or just aren't feelin' MafiaIn post 2316, Cabd wrote:I'm not going to lie man I'm basing this literally 0% on anything you posted
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He's flopped that stance so many times that I imagine it's stockholm syndrome at this pointIn post 2319, Prism wrote:??? Petapan literally has had me as hardtown
For awhile he shouldn't have which was a big issue. Chance of him not knowing it now is virtually zero thoughProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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I think it's hard to read someone who isn't playing up to his own perceived potential, and again that's the only vibe I gotIn post 2322, Cabd wrote:
Yeah but see like syr and I are best buds and I would argue when it comes to his mafia mind I know it better than anyone here. Even Ffery.In post 2318, unwnd wrote:
Some people just have bad games, feel left out, or just aren't feelin' MafiaIn post 2316, Cabd wrote:I'm not going to lie man I'm basing this literally 0% on anything you posted
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He was dispirited due to the response of the roomProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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If this is what you got out of my assessment of you two it's another case of selective readingIn post 2327, Prism wrote:This...also just still doesn't answer why you think it's 1-1. It was just a restatement of why you individually scumread me, which I exactly the opposite of what I asked for.
Why does me flipping town mean petapan is scum to you? You clearly do not place any value in my reasoning here.
This is a thing scum does, and while I'm not pointing that at you as a main argument, I will say that if everyone continues to selectively read then it's just going to benefit them in the long-termProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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Honestly Cabd, I have a null read on you and I don't know what it all means that you're still hardheaded about this. We're not in the same position where you were tunnelling Cakez and he just flopped, this is D1 and I type 110 WPM, so looking forward to whatever you have to throw at meIn post 2326, Cabd wrote:I mean like I'm not gonna ever convince you that you're scum. I'm good but not that good.
Anyways I'll case you later, spiffeh junior.Protect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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Cmon man I haven't even been here to fight with you and your angle still remains the same, where you flip the argument and then turn it against someone. leaving pitfalls in your words for people to fall into. That is why selective reading again, will benefit scum in the long-runProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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To re-iterate
I never scumread peta, I do not scumread peta now
Why you said this is absolutely beyond me
Why you continue to do what you're doing despite someone like Peta telling you no, is beyond me
why you say things like 'well his behavior is NAI but let's lim him anyways', is beyond me
Why you're not the leading wagon and I am is uh well, beyond meProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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I don't think the in-fighting is fully intentional. I think people are assuming behavior and then getting in a position where their respect for one another leads to this cautious paranoia, which in turn has it spiraling into sustained doubt and arguing about 'well I know you're capable of this' repeat ad nauseamProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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You're going to have to find a funk/In post 2361, Cabd wrote:Ffery I woke up though.
I'm sorry I hurt your achy breaky heart but it's okay now.punkreference if you want to resonate with my heart.Protect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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Breaking my hyperpost self-clause to say that your response to me seems like you gave it a decent amount of thought
My question to you is that would the process of this feedback loop and 5 more like pages like bork exclaims really help you reading me? I think where I stand right now is that the problems I had to your prior still persist, and it's just not something I'm gonna get over. I also felt that nagging feeling when Vax said 'i know im being unproductive' which makes me think that a reset could be due regardlessProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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Cabd I think you should wait to case me/Syr cause I really do wanna hear from others, and while I know personally it's not right
It's just gonna give leverage to unknown reds that I think I wanna move my priority to figuring out
The most you get out of this is associative tells if I'm scum, so I don't thin that's an unfair tradeProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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It's only been a couple of minutes but
I just feel like If I stand back from (Prism), that I could be letting something slip through my fingers. Something tells me that he knows himself very well and would use any beneficiary to gain the momentum in an argument but
There are little sprinkles of sincerity that give me doubt. I totally agree with Prism in that belief that maybe you're just not being interpreted correctly and it really sucks when you're not. I resonate with that feeliing, and I have too much of a heart to not. I hate the current state of the game and I think that it desperately needs to change. The fact he spoilered those responses to me really felt it was seeping into a personal matter, and I could tell he's pretty tired from everything too. Maybe a bit stubborn as well. So with all that said, I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't offer something elsewhere. I think I'm going to give up the ghost on Prism for now and attempt to see his actions in a different light from this point forward, because I strongly believe in that idea of a spectator sport going on and it's making me a little irritable. Irritable in the fashion that I feel like my efforts and everyone else's efforts are just being laughed at.
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Prism I'm no longer on you, but if I may appease you in some way but I do not think that the scumteam is so largely concerned with you that they would seemingly keep pushing the issue at the expense of losing their thread credibility. You're a dangerous topic, and I recognize that. That danger also represents a potential threat to scum as well, wherein they are simply not posting because they don't want get thrown a few punches at them as well. Humor me on this perspectiveProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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Like part of me looks at like this
1) You throw a case out on me (Syr), this causes the collective players to each weigh in their thoughts on said case, or at the least blind agree and sheep. Lurkscum are gonna see fuckhuge wall like that and think 'yeah it's time to safe vote' and I'd be unhappy in the sense you killed me not because of my actions but because of Syr, but that it would be a strong enough move that would get this thread from breaking this unending stasis
2) You don't do that and I can use my negotiation skills and deductions to help you, but this is a scenario where you give up your Syr read entirely. I know this is something that I believe you're struggling with, but it helps me more than the other option because again, the two shifting states in my mind keep fighting with each other in terms of youProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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Just take it as a freudian slip because it's a bitIn post 2443, Prism wrote:
Looking at your later posts I think Vax is a scumread, was there someone that was meant to take his place in the townread list?In post 2242, unwnd wrote:I was sitting at {Peta, DGB, MOD Slot,Vax} as my townreads with {Prism, Pooky,Vax} as my scumreads[redacted]and a mistakeProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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NewpageIn post 2442, unwnd wrote:Like part of me looks at like this
1) You throw a case out on me (Syr), this causes the collective players to each weigh in their thoughts on said case, or at the least blind agree and sheep. Lurkscum are gonna see fuckhuge wall like that and think 'yeah it's time to safe vote' and I'd be unhappy in the sense you killed me not because of my actions but because of Syr, but that it would be a strong enough move that would get this thread from breaking this unending stasis
2) You don't do that and I can use my negotiation skills and deductions to help you, but this is a scenario where you give up your Syr read entirely. I know this is something that I believe you're struggling with, but it helps me more than the other option because again, the two shifting states in my mind keep fighting with each other in terms of youProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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I'm just playing devil's advocate and seeing what it means. I understand the position where if Cabd is scum, he's just going to maintain his perspective. It hasn't gotten him in trouble so why change now? The reason to appeal to him is to see if it leads to something else I can read onProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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Regardless how you feel and as I said before
I want something good to come of it. You can think I'm scum and have that disposition but if you respect me in any regard then you'll make sure that it is at least honored. Prism is seeing this like I'm not trying to discern your alignment when that couldn't be farther than the truth. Your behavior to me says that you dislike being wrong, and that you are feeling the momentum of not being so wrong lately. You have no reason to doubt yourself. You're at peak performance and this is just business as usual.
That's an easy position to make as scum. I want to challenge on you on this because that faith will only be placed once I see it.Protect yourself from the back of your mind - unwnd
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