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Post Post #2242 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:54 pm

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I really fucking shouldn't have but the xenoblade reunion tempted me

Lucky for you I had reads and was slightly following along

I was sitting at {Peta, DGB, MOD Slot, Vax} as my townreads with {Prism, Pooky, Vax} as my scumreads

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Post Post #2244 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:56 pm

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My main suspicion is with Prism, and I feel that his posts thus far have been entertaining but almost to a fault. He feels very excessive in the way he gets his point across and if it doesn't then he resorts to this sorta uncanny approach where he is extra animated about the negative reception

It's scummy as fuck

VOTE: Prism
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Post Post #2246 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:56 pm

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In post 2243, petapan wrote:you're being run up because of syr's play and need to claim because we have 3 days to deadline
I thought Syr was like fine personally but I know that'd be attesting to myself at this point
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Post Post #2248 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:58 pm

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In post 2245, Cabd wrote:Hey dgb there's your scum claim.
You're townreading him? I was honestly extremely excited to come in here and vote him

The dissonance between Xeno and here was just alarming

I feel like you're a bit different too but for some reason I wasn't noticing it as much, probably because you lack the (excessive) trait
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Post Post #2250 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:00 pm

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Oh so you guys kept chatting while I was napping I almost thought you were facechecking me Peta

I'm VT
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Post Post #2252 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:02 pm

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In post 2249, notscience wrote:You feel different too. Sorry you had to replace in to a scum slot.
I'd prefer a fair shake before you determine that
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:03 pm

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If that's something you can't do then I'll just be sorting through my thoughts and pretend there isn't an impending death train on me

It's the least I can do lol
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Post Post #2257 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:06 pm

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I genuinely appreciate it, don't make me an unfinished meal I'd at least for you to pretend to remember once this murder occurs </3
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Post Post #2265 (isolation #8) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:11 pm

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Before I get to the process Prism, I just wanna know what this weird ass back and forth between you and your previous president all means. Every time I clicked in here that was something that bothered me the most. Sometimes, I would start to think to myself if this was some form of crazy scum theater where you two like obviously leaning into some kinda history with one another to fake bait each other into arguments

But then I found myself really agreeing with Peta's logical sorting and that he wasn't nearly as inclined to being baited. Yet you kept doing it. Why? You've gotten him all pissed off from what I understand, but another thing I note is that you kinda forgive him sometimes and other times when he's not on the thread bickering with you, you go into this type of mode that seems like you're above his complaints and it could make him scum. That type of behavior just doesn't sit right with me, and the conclusion I reached is that at least one of you has to be scum. I'm leaning on you in terms of what I said previously and just digging Peta more in the outcomes
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Post Post #2274 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:18 pm

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As my other thoughts I think Vax's behavior is unchecked and going under the radar. He speaks with emphasis about certain topics but yet he's not here fighting for them. His thread presence seems determined by being the one to have the right opinion and nothing else, which I'm not really a fan of because it is presumptuous and almost like he's taunting the other people for having to actually solve the game. I wasn't absolutely glued-my-eyes-to-screen paying attention but I digress.
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Post Post #2276 (isolation #10) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:22 pm

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As uncanny as it sounds you compare someone like DGB who is in the trenches and then Vax who is too scared to fight for what he believes and my point becomes clear. Other things I was thinking about is that I was pretty fond of bork's tone in terms of his no bullshit allowed motto, Pooky was being really weird early in the game, Have no opinion on ffery despite her posting a good amount (extended to someone like Skitter) and then the rest of the players I think are merely participating which to me has been a bit distracting, and I think getting rid of the main distraction (Prism) would be beneficial. Another thing I remember is that he was the leading wagon for about 2 or 3 VCs, but now I'm the one being run up?

My heart it is weary
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Post Post #2277 (isolation #11) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:22 pm

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In post 2275, Prism wrote:I respond to certain sections of posts as though I am wrong. Pretty consistent theme you can look through in the two Undertake minis, don't want to link on my phone.

I am absolutely above certain complaints of peta's, in that his opinion of my play is so worthless as to be zero. This sounds malicious, but I would say the same for any other player. Praise and criticism alike both go immediately in the garbage, and it tends to be infuriating for other people to deal with. I play to win the game and not to salvage peta's opinion of me.

I'm pushing him and know he'll get angry for it if he's town, and that he has a right to feel that way.

Very abbreviated sorry
I honestly believe you've gotten what he wanted, are you still not convinced he's town?
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Post Post #2279 (isolation #12) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:23 pm

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In post 2278, Vaxkiller wrote:@unwnd
My presence is really that different than half the people in this game?
Yes, but I'm not sure why you're asking me this
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Post Post #2284 (isolation #13) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:28 pm

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In post 2281, Prism wrote:Absolutely not, his reaction at multiple points has made me instantly think he's scum. If he's town he's town and that's on me but him getting angry here is not a grand towntell, he knows he has to do it as scum and I'm not listening to the salty tears.
I think he's logically sound and if that is something he has capability to do as scum then I'd rather give it preference over you who only wishes to continue the bleeding
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Post Post #2285 (isolation #14) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:30 pm

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Right now my thread perception is that there's a ton of stubbornness needing to be untangled. When I mean that I don't wanna be your unfinished meal, I mean that in a very literal sense. I think people are leaning with their gut on a ton of topics and frothing at the mouth obsessing over results. I think it'd be pretty cool if players I know are capable of perfect-limming scum could find compromise instead of assuming the worst intentions of a slot who merely wanted to be apart of the greater things going on

Oops I defended my own slot, I've done it now
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Post Post #2288 (isolation #15) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:32 pm

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I'm not sure what quoting my post on you gets me

You're going to disagree as scum if what I'm saying about you is true
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Post Post #2295 (isolation #16) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:35 pm

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I'm not him and I can't tell you what his reasons were, but I feel what I've said about his disposition remains very true

I didn't get a slot that pretty much has a free pass notsci, I'm out here like R.Kelly fighting for my life
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Post Post #2300 (isolation #17) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:38 pm

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In post 2292, Vaxkiller wrote:You talked about my presence being scummy and I replied that it's not really different than half the people in this game, and you responded: Yes.
I don't think that's true if you've read a bit of my other stream of consciousness posts. I even compared you to a townread of mine.

I don't know where you think focusing on 'not really different than half of the game' applies
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Post Post #2302 (isolation #18) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:42 pm

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Stop it!! Quit playing. I didn't do this stuff! This is not me. I gave you guys 60 pages of my life
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Post Post #2305 (isolation #19) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:44 pm

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Your confusion makes it funnier
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Post Post #2307 (isolation #20) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:47 pm

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Well the 60 pages were a Xenoblade reference, the other stuff was R.Kelly
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Post Post #2312 (isolation #21) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:49 pm

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Cakez screamed at the top of his lungs about his scumpartner and flailed a bunch of reads without substantiating them, you insult me if you think my posts are even close to the same
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Post Post #2314 (isolation #22) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:50 pm

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In post 2311, Prism wrote:So, from what I can gather you're skeptical of how I have this weird half-kind, half-aggressive slapping peta's hand away approach as town.

Why does this scream T/S for you if peta's just town and I'm the issue?
Independently I'm not fond of your actions and you've made yourself a willing target. I think that you're going to maintain the same type of attitude because while it's getting you shit from someone like Peta, the others are buying into the excessiveness
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Post Post #2318 (isolation #23) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:52 pm

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In post 2316, Cabd wrote:I'm not going to lie man I'm basing this literally 0% on anything you posted
Some people just have bad games, feel left out, or just aren't feelin' Mafia

I however
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Post Post #2321 (isolation #24) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:53 pm

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In post 2319, Prism wrote:??? Petapan literally has had me as hardtown

For awhile he shouldn't have which was a big issue. Chance of him not knowing it now is virtually zero though
He's flopped that stance so many times that I imagine it's stockholm syndrome at this point
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Post Post #2325 (isolation #25) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:56 pm

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In post 2322, Cabd wrote:
In post 2318, unwnd wrote:
In post 2316, Cabd wrote:I'm not going to lie man I'm basing this literally 0% on anything you posted
Some people just have bad games, feel left out, or just aren't feelin' Mafia

I however
Yeah but see like syr and I are best buds and I would argue when it comes to his mafia mind I know it better than anyone here. Even Ffery.
I think it's hard to read someone who isn't playing up to his own perceived potential, and again that's the only vibe I got

He was dispirited due to the response of the room
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Post Post #2328 (isolation #26) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:58 pm

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In post 2327, Prism wrote:This...also just still doesn't answer why you think it's 1-1. It was just a restatement of why you individually scumread me, which I exactly the opposite of what I asked for.

Why does me flipping town mean petapan is scum to you? You clearly do not place any value in my reasoning here.
If this is what you got out of my assessment of you two it's another case of selective reading

This is a thing scum does, and while I'm not pointing that at you as a main argument, I will say that if everyone continues to selectively read then it's just going to benefit them in the long-term
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Post Post #2331 (isolation #27) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:00 pm

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In post 2326, Cabd wrote:I mean like I'm not gonna ever convince you that you're scum. I'm good but not that good.

Anyways I'll case you later, spiffeh junior.
Honestly Cabd, I have a null read on you and I don't know what it all means that you're still hardheaded about this. We're not in the same position where you were tunnelling Cakez and he just flopped, this is D1 and I type 110 WPM, so looking forward to whatever you have to throw at me
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Post Post #2336 (isolation #28) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:05 pm

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Cmon man I haven't even been here to fight with you and your angle still remains the same, where you flip the argument and then turn it against someone. leaving pitfalls in your words for people to fall into. That is why selective reading again, will benefit scum in the long-run
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Post Post #2339 (isolation #29) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:06 pm

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To re-iterate

I never scumread peta, I do not scumread peta now
Why you said this is absolutely beyond me
Why you continue to do what you're doing despite someone like Peta telling you no, is beyond me
why you say things like 'well his behavior is NAI but let's lim him anyways', is beyond me
Why you're not the leading wagon and I am is uh well, beyond me
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Post Post #2344 (isolation #30) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:10 pm

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I think when it came to you I explicitly said independently did I not?
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Post Post #2346 (isolation #31) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:12 pm

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Ffery I was null-reading you what your take on this whole mess going on?
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Post Post #2351 (isolation #32) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:16 pm

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OK retrace your thought to me and do it baby steps because now I find myself possibly misinterpreting something

I don't want to fight you, yes I think your actions are scummy but this doesn't need to be another bout
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Post Post #2355 (isolation #33) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:18 pm

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I genuinely believe the fighting and aggression of this game is causing it to be uncharitable for a lot of players, and I am very much against that
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Post Post #2360 (isolation #34) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:23 pm

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I don't think the in-fighting is fully intentional. I think people are assuming behavior and then getting in a position where their respect for one another leads to this cautious paranoia, which in turn has it spiraling into sustained doubt and arguing about 'well I know you're capable of this' repeat ad nauseam
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Post Post #2362 (isolation #35) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:26 pm

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What Pooky said there is probably true but it is also unproductive

If you're in Uzbekistan then at least try to learn the language, or at least drink the beer

Your referral to that Vax is actually another one of my problems this game
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Post Post #2364 (isolation #36) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:29 pm

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This is definitely a bar environment
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Post Post #2367 (isolation #37) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:32 pm

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While you didn't answer me that response made me laugh so I'm officially biased on limming you
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Post Post #2369 (isolation #38) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:35 pm

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In post 2368, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2361, Cabd wrote:Ffery I woke up though.

I'm sorry I hurt your achy breaky heart but it's okay now.
You're going to have to find a funk/
punk
reference if you want to resonate with my heart.
This game is like Songs for Fucking
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Post Post #2370 (isolation #39) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:36 pm

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p-edit: Songs About Fucking

No more hyperposting, I've made my claims
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Post Post #2382 (isolation #40) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:50 pm

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Breaking my hyperpost self-clause to say that your response to me seems like you gave it a decent amount of thought

My question to you is that would the process of this feedback loop and 5 more like pages like bork exclaims really help you reading me? I think where I stand right now is that the problems I had to your prior still persist, and it's just not something I'm gonna get over. I also felt that nagging feeling when Vax said 'i know im being unproductive' which makes me think that a reset could be due regardless
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Post Post #2383 (isolation #41) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:51 pm

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Nagging feeling in the sense he's just mocking us, and I imagine the reds who are in that crowd are too

This is spectator sport, we're better than this
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Post Post #2387 (isolation #42) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:52 pm

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Bork is being the sensible dad and I'm all here for it lol
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Post Post #2395 (isolation #43) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:03 pm

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Cabd I think you should wait to case me/Syr cause I really do wanna hear from others, and while I know personally it's not right

It's just gonna give leverage to unknown reds that I think I wanna move my priority to figuring out

The most you get out of this is associative tells if I'm scum, so I don't thin that's an unfair trade
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Post Post #2402 (isolation #44) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:27 pm

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Use your body language idk start playing charades
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Post Post #2415 (isolation #45) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:08 pm

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It's only been a couple of minutes but

I just feel like If I stand back from (Prism), that I could be letting something slip through my fingers. Something tells me that he knows himself very well and would use any beneficiary to gain the momentum in an argument but

There are little sprinkles of sincerity that give me doubt. I totally agree with Prism in that belief that maybe you're just not being interpreted correctly and it really sucks when you're not. I resonate with that feeliing, and I have too much of a heart to not. I hate the current state of the game and I think that it desperately needs to change. The fact he spoilered those responses to me really felt it was seeping into a personal matter, and I could tell he's pretty tired from everything too. Maybe a bit stubborn as well. So with all that said, I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't offer something elsewhere. I think I'm going to give up the ghost on Prism for now and attempt to see his actions in a different light from this point forward, because I strongly believe in that idea of a spectator sport going on and it's making me a little irritable. Irritable in the fashion that I feel like my efforts and everyone else's efforts are just being laughed at.

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Post Post #2418 (isolation #46) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:14 pm

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No no I dug that you were asking those questions about the unknowns

Keep doing that, I wasn't even apart of this Russian train bar fight initially and I don't want our energy to be exasperated on each other
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Post Post #2421 (isolation #47) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:17 pm

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Do you think that me dying as green will change anything

Why not start here, I don't get why you're back on just kill me
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Post Post #2427 (isolation #48) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:44 pm

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Prism I'm no longer on you, but if I may appease you in some way but I do not think that the scumteam is so largely concerned with you that they would seemingly keep pushing the issue at the expense of losing their thread credibility. You're a dangerous topic, and I recognize that. That danger also represents a potential threat to scum as well, wherein they are simply not posting because they don't want get thrown a few punches at them as well. Humor me on this perspective
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Post Post #2437 (isolation #49) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:31 pm

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I don't think the logical way to ending this madness is to continue to fan the flames

I said that I liked you starting to talk about other players, but yet you seem unwilling to give up on Syr's behavior without reading mine
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Post Post #2438 (isolation #50) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:32 pm

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If I have to be a martyr then maybe that's what happens, but right now I go from 'maybe Cabd has this' to 'Wait I actually don't know shit about what Cabd is doing', and I can't rely on blind faith
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Post Post #2440 (isolation #51) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:38 pm

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It all plays into martyr status that I feel myself slowly acclimating to lol
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Post Post #2442 (isolation #52) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:43 pm

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Like part of me looks at like this

1) You throw a case out on me (Syr), this causes the collective players to each weigh in their thoughts on said case, or at the least blind agree and sheep. Lurkscum are gonna see fuckhuge wall like that and think 'yeah it's time to safe vote' and I'd be unhappy in the sense you killed me not because of my actions but because of Syr, but that it would be a strong enough move that would get this thread from breaking this unending stasis

2) You don't do that and I can use my negotiation skills and deductions to help you, but this is a scenario where you give up your Syr read entirely. I know this is something that I believe you're struggling with, but it helps me more than the other option because again, the two shifting states in my mind keep fighting with each other in terms of you
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Post Post #2445 (isolation #53) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:46 pm

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In post 2443, Prism wrote:
In post 2242, unwnd wrote:I was sitting at {Peta, DGB, MOD Slot,
Vax
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Vax
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Looking at your later posts I think Vax is a scumread, was there someone that was meant to take his place in the townread list?
Just take it as a freudian slip because it's a bit
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Post Post #2448 (isolation #54) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:47 pm

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No it's definitely just [redacted I cannot talk about these reasons and I would prefer you not bring them up because it's a nono]
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Post Post #2450 (isolation #55) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:48 pm

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The mountain of reasons that you think Syr is scum*
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Post Post #2452 (isolation #56) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:49 pm

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In post 2442, unwnd wrote:Like part of me looks at like this

1) You throw a case out on me (Syr), this causes the collective players to each weigh in their thoughts on said case, or at the least blind agree and sheep. Lurkscum are gonna see fuckhuge wall like that and think 'yeah it's time to safe vote' and I'd be unhappy in the sense you killed me not because of my actions but because of Syr, but that it would be a strong enough move that would get this thread from breaking this unending stasis

2) You don't do that and I can use my negotiation skills and deductions to help you, but this is a scenario where you give up your Syr read entirely. I know this is something that I believe you're struggling with, but it helps me more than the other option because again, the two shifting states in my mind keep fighting with each other in terms of you
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Post Post #2454 (isolation #57) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:51 pm

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Then you have to promise that if the first outcome happens, something good will come of it
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Post Post #2458 (isolation #58) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:54 pm

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I'm just playing devil's advocate and seeing what it means. I understand the position where if Cabd is scum, he's just going to maintain his perspective. It hasn't gotten him in trouble so why change now? The reason to appeal to him is to see if it leads to something else I can read on
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Post Post #2462 (isolation #59) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:58 pm

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I think I've been very townie and making good points so getting cased for something I didn't even do just makes me :(
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Post Post #2464 (isolation #60) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:04 pm

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Regardless how you feel and as I said before

I want something good to come of it. You can think I'm scum and have that disposition but if you respect me in any regard then you'll make sure that it is at least honored. Prism is seeing this like I'm not trying to discern your alignment when that couldn't be farther than the truth. Your behavior to me says that you dislike being wrong, and that you are feeling the momentum of not being so wrong lately. You have no reason to doubt yourself. You're at peak performance and this is just business as usual.

That's an easy position to make as scum. I want to challenge on you on this because that faith will only be placed once I see it.
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Post Post #2466 (isolation #61) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:41 pm

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Can't sleep and my brain is in mafia overdrive. I owe some things regardless.

I maintain what I said before about the thread state and fucking hating it. My easing off of Prism was the first step to disengage from what is happening. I don't want any part in this bickering and it's making me distracted. This is not to blame any of you rather it is to blame myself. That being said, I also maintain the thread is imbalanced. Let me state my intentions clear: The people who are here and bickering amongst themselves at best contains one scum. That is not worth much in hindsight. Figuring out who the one scum is in this ten-truck pileup would be just sorting through the debris. I very much am not a fan of Vax's response to me and I am very much not a fan of giving players like that excuses just based on what's going on. Admittingly, there is a point to be made in what he said. Why does he need to be involved if we're just doing the work for him. Reset. That is very true, but I feel his disposition is scummy for reasons already stated and the way he treated those reasons. I also don't really care for Pooky's pop-up either. My own bias hasn't been challenged and I want to act selfishly.

What matters though is that even if those two were scum, they're not going to be caught anytime soon because I am literally one person in this playerlist and right now I am currently defending myself from an impending Cabd death-tunnel. What I would like to see is people entertaining aspects that haven't presented themselves yet.
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Post Post #2467 (isolation #62) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:53 pm

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Here's where I stand from doing a bit of digging.

MOD/Notsci

DGB

Peta

Bork

--
Ffery

Cabd

Skitter

Elements

Prism

Ben

--
Pooky

Vax


The area in the middle is what I'm most interested in solving. Three of those players are here to solve and then the rest are not. The three that are here to solve are each placed just based on their tone mostly. I would say Ffery is probably null-lean town out of the bunch with Cabd still sitting null and Prism being placed there because I am choosing to reset myself. When it comes to Ben/Elements/Skitter, just from ISO'ing the slots I felt Ben had the least amount to say. Not in the same fashion of Vax, but where his last post was that he was gonna make a post that never happened. This reads to me like a potential scum who is making broken promises, and I thought earlier on when I was peeking into the thread where he was getting a good amount of pressure was a good look. The only problem though is my read is based on about...18 posts? I don't remember the exact number. My read becomes situational but I think that dragging someone like him out of the spotlight works in the same way the others do. I felt Skitter was being sensible and I appreciate the clarity, but found myself that her responses were ultimately leaning null. Elements is put there for being on the player-list and I have no further thoughts on them. I think where I stand right now is that I'm probably wrong somewhere in my top-half but confidence assures me no less than one, with the rest of the game being sorted in my nulls and below.
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Post Post #2468 (isolation #63) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:56 pm

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So I'd like to start here and stay here. Cabd can put his case on me (and I'll probably respond because I'm a gentleman) but be the change you wanna see in the world etc.

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Post Post #2473 (isolation #64) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:08 am

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Any difference you feel is largely based on the fact that those two games I wasn't in the same scenario, and especially if you scum read my slot here
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Post Post #2476 (isolation #65) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:16 am

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Haha i would definitely disagree with that, I think frequency of posting becomes prevalent where I'd prefer to get everything out if im possibly limmed
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Post Post #2478 (isolation #66) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:48 am

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Well for one you made me laugh and two, I agree with the disposition you've taken thus far in the moments that I wasn't just in spectator mode. In terms of Cabd, I know he's wrong about me so I have to assume that his best intentions could just be a ploy, because I think if I were in a position where I was (Town) in one and then (Scum) preceding the other, I would lean into my quirks that got me townread before. It remains null for him because I can't prove that
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Post Post #2479 (isolation #67) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:49 am

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He's not really giving much to work with either. What do you think about it? You two seem to be going back and forth about Syr at the very least.
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Post Post #2481 (isolation #68) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:56 am

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From memory something about burning the metaread from him

You disagreeing, offering another game of Syr's

And then him going on about masonry/PTs
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Post Post #2484 (isolation #69) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:04 am

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The game felt much healthier from spectator eyes around...page 50ish. It was where you seeing almost everyone talk. Now you're just seeing us talk and I can't imagine I'm helping the cause
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Post Post #2486 (isolation #70) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:20 am

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Well If I'm interpreting correctly you disagree with him and that's the bottom line yes?
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Post Post #2488 (isolation #71) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:25 am

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I don't think that data comes given Syr is no longer in the game

I would ask that you read (me) instead, just like he should as well
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Post Post #2490 (isolation #72) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:38 am

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When you guys come to conclusions about a slot that is again not here be sure to remind me as well
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Post Post #2500 (isolation #73) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:14 am

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In post 2495, notscience wrote:We’re coming to conclusions about a player who shared a slot and therefore a role pm with you, cut the discrediting.

I’m not joining a wagon on Prism and I have 0 issue letting it go to night over it.
I may townread you by circumstance but the least you could do is look at my posts instead of making assumptions like me being on Prism right now.

Hint: I am not
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Post Post #2503 (isolation #74) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:21 am

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I think my reasons are again, quite good

You just choose not to read them

I sure wish I had your slot dude lol
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Post Post #2506 (isolation #75) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:22 am

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Do the ends justify the means? Then why are you hustling me like I'm not a player in this game.
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Post Post #2510 (isolation #76) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:28 am

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No, I'm trying to get you to move on. Think about how many games you've been 'sure' someone is scum and then they weren't. For starters, It's fucking D1. I believe I'm not wrong when I say this but mislims happen more often than not on D1. What's become of games like this however is that the excessive confidence leads players to believe this game is an exception. That isn't what is happening here, and confidence shouldn't become to where your declarations of who/who isn't scum has to be written in stone
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Post Post #2512 (isolation #77) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:36 am

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What I would prefer to happen right now is again

I am a martyr for the Slovakians is that you at least give a foreground of where to go next. Because that's where I'm finding problems in things right now. It seems like my lim has become happenstance and just dealing with it in order to move the gamestate. When it's wrong, you're going to be in the exact same place as before with maybe a NK to go off of. This is what makes the success of the Xeno game different, where people were already discussing their options after Cakez' lim. I don't see that at all and it's disappointing me from players who I've first-hand seen do better
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Post Post #2513 (isolation #78) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:37 am

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I understand your disposition peta, but I would still do my best to ensure town figures it out and isn't just going into the night absolutely certain it's correct
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Post Post #2515 (isolation #79) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:41 am

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Just for my sake I'd like to understand what others are thinking about my list because I was a bit miffed nobody said anything lol
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Post Post #2527 (isolation #80) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:35 am

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In post 2517, notscience wrote:And this whole “you’re better than that”

“I’m just a martyr”

“We’re back at square one” is AtE and I refuse to believe a logical player like yourself would resort to AtE as town.
That's just me taking the piss out of this lim and nothing else, everything following that I maintain wrt my current position in the thread
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Post Post #2529 (isolation #81) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:42 pm

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My read on Vax is not necessarily UTR. I think that Vax is not going to be pressured to do anything in this environment. He remains UTR because we've let him be, and as I explained before I find his words to be very self-aware but also condescending in a way. Like how he came in and told us to stop arguing and go somewhere or that he didn't get a chance to player or whatever. He's just going to keep doing that and I wanted to bring attention to it. Pooky is not necessarily associative of Vax but there were just some gut tells I got from his early content that never got solved, and put him down there because since that content he's only tapered off and not really done anything to get better. When it comes to Ffery being shaded towards green I explained it a bit earlier
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Post Post #2554 (isolation #82) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:00 pm

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In post 2537, petapan wrote:
In post 2529, unwnd wrote:My read on Vax is not necessarily UTR. I think that Vax is not going to be pressured to do anything in this environment. He remains UTR because we've let him be, and as I explained before I find his words to be very self-aware but also condescending in a way. Like how he came in and told us to stop arguing and go somewhere or that he didn't get a chance to player or whatever. He's just going to keep doing that and I wanted to bring attention to it. Pooky is not necessarily associative of Vax but there were just some gut tells I got from his early content that never got solved, and put him down there because since that content he's only tapered off and not really done anything to get better. When it comes to Ffery being shaded towards green I explained it a bit earlier
i guess i understand on vax and do think he should be in the poe still but is not high priority for me

i think pooky has hit some of his towntells and that fluff and not being high content are null for him. a bit worried about him glomming on to prism and not really engaging me on if he thinks i
actually
play like this as scum but not majorly worried. track record of reading him is not great though so who knows.
I just feel like Prism gets sorted later regardless which is why I've decided to shelve him. My pooky read is more weaker than Vax and I hope it's not ignored on future days
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Post Post #2571 (isolation #83) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:18 pm

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I don't think people are just immutable machines that process Mafia like a spreadsheet. People do things that others will deem uncharacteristic, unnatural, what have you. I don't know why you keep presenting AtE as your main argument given that you are producing an emotion by the very means of attacking someone with it called aggression. AtE applies when the intent of using that emotion is to cover up for actions or make convenient excuses, but other than that, it's impossible to remove human emotive traits. Even now I speak with some regard of emotion because you can use emotions to drive your points further. I speak in this way because I want to emphasize something to you and that's what makes Mafia so interesting in the first place, because it's not simply guess-and-check and there are a ton of variables to account for.
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Post Post #2587 (isolation #84) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:34 pm

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I'm both noraa and Cakez at the same time

Is this how little you respect me

How little you respect Syr? That's not an appeal, but even if I were scum I'd be quite offended that you think my play would even be close to theirs lol
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Post Post #2589 (isolation #85) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:35 pm

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In post 2588, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 2583, Cabd wrote:Yes yes, gammajerkfin, noraa is very town and you are gonna drive her and prove her innocence.
are you seriously trying to equate this situation to where you knew there was a guilty on a player but were trying to just mask who it was from

fuck off lol
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Post Post #2592 (isolation #86) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:36 pm

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Bork dude your posting is A++

I love you no nonsense stuff so much
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Post Post #2594 (isolation #87) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:36 pm

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p-edit: I love your*

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Post Post #2602 (isolation #88) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:38 pm

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In post 2599, skitter30 wrote:i don't think the game looks like this if ur all town
Listen I don't disagree but as I was saying--there's probably just one in this crap at best
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Post Post #2610 (isolation #89) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:45 pm

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In post 2605, notscience wrote:3) unwnd is way more emotionally reactive and AtE than any version I’ve seen and it’s weird for a logical player to fearmonger and AtE like that
Just so you can say it to the room (I think perspective is good) I want to understand where you see this and why. No quick strikes, show me your technique
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Post Post #2614 (isolation #90) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:49 pm

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In post 2612, notscience wrote:You just want to pick it apart unwnd I’m not stupid. I’m also at work so it’ll have to wait.
Well yes that's part of the process of things

This is what makes the game fun for me
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Post Post #2615 (isolation #91) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:50 pm

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In post 2613, Cabd wrote:One might even say Cakez wants his scumcase.
I would want unwnd case and not Syr case because what am I supposed to do besides shrug and say 'hey that ain't me'
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Post Post #2618 (isolation #92) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:51 pm

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Listen off the record

Very confused by the comparison to Cakez, but also where you say things like 'I want to gladiate unwnd; too dangerous as scum to live'

Everybody is fucking tsun
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Post Post #2619 (isolation #93) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:53 pm

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This whole game has individuals just peeing into the eyes of their partner awkwardly fumbling with their hands afraid to make the first move to unzip the pants

Peta/Prism's sexual tension was off the CHARTS
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Post Post #2622 (isolation #94) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:57 pm

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In post 2619, unwnd wrote:This whole game has individuals just peeing into the eyes of their partner awkwardly fumbling with their hands afraid to make the first move to unzip the pants

Peta/Prism's sexual tension was off the CHARTS
I meant peering here. I've actually developed cramps from typing too much in general
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Post Post #2623 (isolation #95) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:57 pm

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In post 2620, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:now we're just getting trolled by a dead man
How am I supposed to scumread you when I agree with you lol
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Post Post #2631 (isolation #96) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:05 pm

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I just want Cabd to figure out if he wants to fuck Syr or he's mad at me because he can no longer fuck him
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Post Post #2636 (isolation #97) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:11 pm

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In post 2633, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2604, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2602, unwnd wrote:
In post 2599, skitter30 wrote:i don't think the game looks like this if ur all town
Listen I don't disagree but as I was saying--there's probably just one in this crap at best
you're saying you think there's max one but possibly none? or am i reading that wrong?
sorry, did u respond to this ^?
Sorry I started to have fun for a sec

I definitely just think one in this mess, if there were two I'd be absolutely shocked. It's likely what is happening is that someone is taking advantage of the chaos and all they really have to do is nod and follow the agenda. What do you think?
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Post Post #2640 (isolation #98) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:16 pm

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If I were sorting it through most frequent posters

You/Peta/Prism/Cabd/Notsci/Ffery

I townread you and Peta right now and feel good about that. I admit my Ffery read is kinda weak but I take blame to her not really being around and entertaining Cabd anytime she pops in. I think Cabd would be deepwolf possibility and I actually to interject myself and ask

Do you think that list of players who potentially have a deepwolf? Because Notsci said the deepwolf is elsewhere and I absolutely disagree
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Post Post #2641 (isolation #99) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:17 pm

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Skitter I don't think none, that simply wouldn't make sense to me. This chaos isn't fully wrought by an over-active town I think
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Post Post #2647 (isolation #100) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:28 pm

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As I keep saying in case you're tired of hearing it

I am in a a position as town where I am being incriminated for something someone else did. I'm not gonna repeat this but from my perspective

My best option here is to appeal to reason, moreover, I know it's wrong and I know that logic persists where there must be one of you either simply watching me go down or causing it to happen. I don't think focusing on that now works for me because my pool is there albeit limited. And it seems like nobody wants to entertain that thought despite somehow..agreeing with me
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Post Post #2649 (isolation #101) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:29 pm

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In post 2646, petapan wrote:don't think that's entirely true, sometimes town can rip each other apart while scum does nothing and washes their hands of the situation. it's not a good gameplan but sometimes it happens
In that case then scum doesn't give a fuck about what's going on at all which is why they're not concerned where their vote lies at EoD
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Post Post #2650 (isolation #102) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:30 pm

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If you don't think I'm scum Bork then do you agree with DGB's post in the sense you think the scum also

Doesn't know what the fuck they're doing? Which is why you think this is more in line with what Peta said about town just ripping into each other?
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Post Post #2654 (isolation #103) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:36 pm

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Yeah just wanna say

Let me

1) Rest my hand
2) Rest my brain
3) Rest

I think when I start making syntax/spelling errors I really just need to cool it sorry
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Post Post #2695 (isolation #104) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:30 pm

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Before you kill me please say a few things you like about me so my death feels less worse

Thank you
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Post Post #2709 (isolation #105) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:41 pm

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Vanity because apparently still no Vax

VOTE: Prism
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Post Post #2764 (isolation #106) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:55 pm

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Don't cry because it's over

Cry because you a bunch of Russians all ganged up on you and beat you within an inch of your life

Cobra kai was there too I guess, but what the fuck was he doing in Russia?
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Post Post #2782 (isolation #107) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:26 pm

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I wanna get fucked up but also enjoy the taste so I'm with you Cabd
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Post Post #2788 (isolation #108) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:03 pm

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I am male but I choose to not use the pronoun thing cause back in my day

It wasn't there
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Post Post #2790 (isolation #109) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:20 pm

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Real ones used the stinky ass brown as default for theme, but will say the black bodes better on the eyes
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Post Post #2792 (isolation #110) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:27 pm

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I have to get this off my chest

MoI was always overrated, and every single game I remember playing with him is scarcely unmemorable
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Post Post #2793 (isolation #111) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:28 pm

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Freudian slip

I meant memorable

Fuck NPOM Kill me already
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Post Post #2795 (isolation #112) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:32 pm

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I truly did not understand his appeal, his reads were middling and he spoke like a machine translated version of Mafia visual novel
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Post Post #2797 (isolation #113) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:36 pm

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Dude was so dense rocks must've been jealous of him
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Post Post #2798 (isolation #114) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:39 pm

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Oh and another thing

God bless that Cooldog got banned for being an egregiously unfunny POS who turned out to be alt-right
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Post Post #2799 (isolation #115) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:41 pm

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MS in a pretty good state, just that I think the games are less focused in terms of attention

I'm through flipping through the memories though, I just felt like the audience would understand

It's 2020 and there are pronouns and I'm not on the stinky brown theme anymore
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Post Post #2801 (isolation #116) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:44 pm

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I was pretty ragey and I've cooled off tremendously
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Post Post #2803 (isolation #117) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:49 pm

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Ditto to everyone even though I'm just waiting to be fucking murdered
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Post Post #2805 (isolation #118) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:59 pm

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NPOM has to do it first
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Post Post #5419 (isolation #119) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:35 pm

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Good job ffery

Notty, I'm curious what your thought was? We could only have hypothetical guessing
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Post Post #5422 (isolation #120) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:39 pm

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Well you seemed to have consistently been on ffery's side (not taking away from her own play, which was fantastic) but I'm wondering if you ever considered the alternative
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Post Post #5429 (isolation #121) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:50 pm

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Oops! All goons
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Post Post #5433 (isolation #122) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:56 pm

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The russian narrative was extremely hilarious

Ffery I hope I did OK even though I couldn't salvage Syr's slot
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Post Post #5440 (isolation #123) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:11 pm

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In post 5434, fferyllt wrote:
In post 5433, unwnd wrote:The russian narrative was extremely hilarious

Ffery I hope I did OK even though I couldn't salvage Syr's slot
You were great, unwnd and your play definitely gave us some much needed smoke screen. I was so sorry I couldn't jump ship on Cabd's murderwagon, but it would have been suicide.
Understandable, I'm very glad people really read into me town-leaning you and the whole fake attempt to pocket bork

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Post Post #5457 (isolation #124) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:16 pm

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I think Tenet and this game are definitely a case of (perfect storm) and I don't feel it reflects on a cliquey mentality at all

There was just a lot of fucking tension overall

Like you/Peta were scrapping for unknown reasons too, and I'm not sitting here trying to contrast the two

I kinda think the way D1 went down even with my dead sorta killed the momentum of the game
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Post Post #5461 (isolation #125) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:24 pm

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In post 5459, Prism wrote:
In post 1585, Prism wrote:Don't throw away your work this game to spite the mod, there's other avenues postgame. We need you here.
I don't know what you would consider a clique if refusing to dialogue with anyone outside of it in good faith for literally a calendar month does not fit the bill, but given that you spent all of the end of day sucking up to notscience and Cabd I cannot say I am surprised that you disagree.
Yeah generally speaking I don't believe the behavior was fully intentional rather just circumstance and I feel your own grievances attest to that

I'm just offering you perspective
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Post Post #5462 (isolation #126) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:25 pm

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Nobody is above criticism if you want me to hear how Cabd doing that whole secret talk stuff annoys the piss out of me I'll do it

And I kept kinda ripping into notty about COBRA KAI mentality as well in the graveyard lol
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Post Post #5463 (isolation #127) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:29 pm

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Lol god that quote you did just reminded me how Notsci's slot got pretty much towncleared by MOD PIZZA flipping out

Yeahhh
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Post Post #5467 (isolation #128) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:32 pm

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Yeah that would definitely fuck up my worldview too

It was like playing IC, you didn't really have much pressure to be overtly town or even talk to people

Read the stuff I said in GY notty some of it is a bit jokey but I think it could help
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Post Post #5543 (isolation #129) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:40 pm

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I'd rather play a minute grounded in reality setup that might be a little flavorless but still anticipates for day and nightplay than something that is just wacky
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