Among Us Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Flea The Magician]

holy nuts 6 pages.... aight lets unleash the chaos >:)

VOTE: Gamma - saw him vent!

Alright. I wanna start off with an RQS this game. Questions are as follows:

1) what power role have you not been that you want to try out, and why? Don’t factor in your current role, answer this question assuming you are vanilla this game.
2) If you were scum, who would be your a) D1 miselim push, b) N1 kill, and c) partner you’d want to bus you and go to the end, given each person was the correct alignment for that specific action?
3) What is your skill with mechanic-heavy setups? If you’re not skilled at them, do you intend to get better with practice or rely on others?
4) What is your favorite candy?
5) What would you say is your biggest strength and biggest weakness as town/scum/in general?

1) Absorber jailkeeper!
2) Elim Cakez - wheats intolerance blows. Murderie Alisae because I must be the superior enby (*・‿・)ノ⌒*:･ﾟ✧. Bus Gamma because Homestuck... really?
3) I have no clue at all! ¯\_( ͡⟃ ͜ʖ ⟄)_/¯
4)

S K I T T L E S

༼ ༽ ლ(́◉◞౪◟◉‵ლ)
5) I have no clue. I AM

C H A O S

I wanna do some RQS as well.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=85039
Read the thread and reply to this post on what you think your colors would be.

I also wanna plug my thread KEKW

Denied. cba.

Also,

Vote: Flea the Magician

. They know why.

♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡

VOTE: gamma saw him vent

<insert double spidey meme here>

Scum probably has to have some reason for us to just not do that

better force them to use their hidden power early than late no?

2 ^_^

ok mass task claim time

i have navigation and cafeteria so I'm a fat pilot

Already? o.o

idk about y'all but both my tasks require specific posts so i think we should try to restrict postcount in later days and focus on thought-out, task checked walls

Easy for you ¬_¬ Catchups going to be a butt for me later on.

I have two and both give me weird PRs

⁀⊙﹏☉⁀

every1 claim what rooms you need for your tasks

i will excel it and figure out optimal pathing

alisae will probly do it faster and better

Security and Storage.

every1 claim what rooms you need for your tasks

i will excel it and figure out optimal pathing

alisae will probly do it faster and better

electricity room?

(；一_一) you kinda sus....

yo Alisae - let's go electrical first!

(ʘᗩʘ')

2) If you were scum, who would be your a) D1 miselim push, b) N1 kill, and c) partner you’d want to bus you and go to the end, given each person was the correct alignment for that specific action?

2.
c. Flea just because that would be super fun
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ok good people are just spamming, i literally took like a 5 minute break and there were 4 pages

i'm not going to keep up with all this hyperposting nor am i going to be rereading the hyperposting that i miss, just as a heads up

i'm going to do other things now

Hey I came in to the game less than an hour after it started and 6 pages! Get yo climbing gear ready, because until I'm in admin, there's gon be some waaaaaaalllllllls!

Lol

I think we are giving scum a lot of info here, but whatevs

SUSP

Pooky faking tasks. pooky sus.

... wow my previews at the bottom went from VC1.3 to VC1.4 ب_ب

Lol

I think we are giving scum a lot of info here, but whatevs

yes

this is why it's very stupid what we're doing

but alisae is playing that magic pipe and everyone's marching along following alisae right over the cliff's edge

<insert lemmings gif here>

I don't see the need to claim them today, personally. I think this can wait for a few days and we can just make groups today so no one is isolated.

the point of claiming is so that we can map out the optimal pathing so that everyone completes all their tasks in 2-3 days and each roomgroup is big enough to prevent mafia bonus NKs


there is also leashing so that people don't wander off on their own and get NK'd in a room with a baddie

I'm all game for this tbh.

tbh if Battle Mage kills me in electrical
I'm happy with that

don't worry, you can trust me

You acting sus...

... Am I on 2 or 3 now? eh I'll read back later.

so like, let me get this straight.

town wins if we do all tasks
scum get one standard NK and one room kill
so if we just NK then we're losing two people each cycle to scum kills anyway
if it's on average 2 tasks per player, and we have 17 people, assuming say 4 scum, that puts us at 13 crewmates aka roughly 26 tasks to complete
i assume each person can only complete one task per cycle? so if EVERYONE got their task done immediately, we could theoretically halve the number of tasks to do after one cycle?

this feels too easy. like scum have to have a way to fuck with tasks.

wait. of course they do. they have sabotages of some kind. i bet that's the mechanic we don't know yet. sabos will force people to go certain places and spend their time fixing sabotages instead of doing tasks.

Assuming this is like the game, and assuming Skeld, doors locking, reactor going boom, O2 ded and comms fail comes to mind as imposter mechanics. So probably people go to the relevant place and do the post restriction thing until its done.

scum can only use the bonus NK on someone in a room if they are in the room with that person AND there are no other town in that room.

so if there r 2 town in a room, a bonus NK can't happen in that room.

also when someone dies, their tasks become open to be claimed, so that sets us back, hence why I said more alive townies = faster task completion

The other things is the imposters can claim tasks, but these won't count against town wincon? so it'd like automatically complete or something?

can you show me how this works because I can't wrap my head around it

a scum has to fake-claim 2 rooms,

but let's say a townie is the only person who is going to room ____

then the scum can see that and also claim he needs to go to room _____

if we popcorn the mass claim right now, scum can't adjust to try to setup bonus nks etc.

The other thing is there's a PT for each room so we'd have knowledge of who is in what room. So if someone is where they're not meant to be we'd know by the next room phase.

I have just realised a flaw in the plan. My Storage task is a long task. I have to be there until it completes.

Welcome Abroad to

D

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I am your Captain,

Taly the Beakest

. I wish you lot well on our mutual travel through space!

If you know what the hell Skelda is, that is the model of this air ship!

Because I love to control the world one day and have everybody unwillingly depend on me for their lives, one of my tasks brings me DIRECTLY southeast to the Cafeteria!

I need not explain myself further I just hope I remember my airship driving lessons.

I have a chaos rival?!?! ⚆ᗝ⚆

TOWNSPEW OR DIE TALY

I PLANNED A POST LIKE 155 ALL DAY WANTING TO CRUMB SHIT AND EVERYBODY IS CLAIMING NOW

will get my thoughts together in like 15 mins?

i understand the POVs of all arguments on whether to claim or not, at least arguments that ive skimmed through haph-hazardly

RIP ✿ڿڰۣ—

I also think I'm just going to give Akarin a day pass for responding to my RQS since they're the only one who did KEKW

@Akarin

I think if you still have a viewpoint on mechanics that you feel like should be posted, you should post it. You shouldn't let the idea that people might not listen to you stop you from getting your opinion out there.

Was your RQS thread thing the magic thing? Because

R A I N B O W S H R I N E S

I need to be in the same room 2 nights in a row.

This might throw a wrench in the claim plan.

Same. Glad I wasn't the only one thinking that.

Battle Mage has 1 task so it should be fine.
I can also go w/ Battle Mage so you feel safer, I have a 2nd task but I don't mind it if it would make you feel safer

I'm not planning to go anywhere without 3/4 people minimum.

<insert family guy murder mansion gif here>

okay this is actually a stupid question, but if we wanted to win, do we actually eliminate like ever?

i actually thought about this last night tbh

if we lim people now, we ensure that we will never complete tasks?

but then im wondering, how is reaching this wincon possible without town dying anyway?

real important, want to make sure this post is not skimmed over.

also, people can sabotage?

oof im missing details with the setup

It's safe to assume there's going to be a screwy mechanic. In the actual game the imposters can ... in fact, its up there somewhere ٩(•౪•٩) You've probably read it if you got this far into my wall of doom <3

Like I'm not okay with obvtown getting killed via the extra kill mechanic, so it would be someone that town would be okay with dieing.

pedit: I mean I think we can try to go for a task any% speedrun but I think if we get handed a free scum lynch we should take it?

The imposter would have to be alone with the townie, assuming all deaths are announced it would literally be a trade and we'd know.

[Flea The Magician]

9 pages by the time I'd finished xD

[Flea The Magician]

ok now to gif hunt for the gifs it needs.. in fact it's going to be like 3 pages.. you have an imagination, use it

[Flea The Magician]

suddenly I want to yeet Flea for making my page size double
and also for doing the RQS thats gross

Y E E T M E I N T O T H E S U N

[Flea The Magician]

But that's like, the only thing I like about mafia!

Oh well.
Puzzle solving time. Anyone wanna role spec on scum PR abilities?

Room denial in some form seems plausible. otherwise the game would end in 3 days? or so.

I'll put it again here...

in game, skeld map.
Rooms can be locked usually whenever with a cooldown.
Sabotage stops the doors being locked for a short period.
Sabotages are
- Reactor - 2 people in room to fix.
- O2 - 1 person in O2 and 1 person in Admin to fix.
- Comms - 1 person in comms to fix
- Lights - 1 person in elec to fix, multiple people make it harder.

[Flea The Magician]

So in theory it seems all tasks are a post restriction of some sort, I'd expect them all to be "short" style tasks.

O2 and Reactor MUST BE FIXED or imposters win.
Comms would be a global post restriction maybe?
Lights might hide kills?

[Flea The Magician]

I also want to claim that my post restrictions aren't so bad. Like I could have a pretty much normal day while adhering to them both days, just might say some slightly weird stuff.

I've already broken both of my task post restrictions ୧(=ʘ͡ᗜʘ͡=)୨

[Flea The Magician]

I'm going to electrical. I'm doing my task.

Either a) scum kill me and leave less for y'all to do

Or b) scum kill elsewhere and I can get those tasks.

Agreeing to anything else seems stupid.

a. isnt quite right - if scum kill you, your task dont get done?

best to check with Pooky/Alisae anyway

When you die your unfinished tasks have to be claimed.
Imposters can claim the tasks, but I think they count as completed for town if they do that.

[Flea The Magician]

I also want to claim that my post restrictions aren't so bad. Like I could have a pretty much normal day while adhering to them both days, just might say some slightly weird stuff.

I've already broken both of my task post restrictions ୧(=ʘ͡ᗜʘ͡=)୨

it probably only counts once you've done the task

Once you're in the room in the next room phase anyway ^_^

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Pooky

Pooky/Alisae are scum.

Immediately trying to get town to divulge all the information scum could possibly want, pushing NE's so they don't have to face any possible pressure, and distracting town away from actual scumhunting with our alternate win condition.

All of this is a favorable game-state for scum, not town. Town should want the locations they have to go to be secret so that scum can't plan where they're going without making reads (outside of circumstances were Town should want to team up with other Town in a hood.) Town should want scum elims for obvious reasons AND to reduce likelihood of the big scary extra kill. Town will still want regular elims for the reasons we always want regular elims. Tasks become distributable anyways when they die and we can push the public tasks to people who are widely TR'd and already going to the same location (which would be a scenario we'd actually want to have people claiming tasks.)

Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Please stop falling for scum ploys to give them a favorable gamestate.

I wouldn't say all information, but this is a pretty valid point...

[Flea The Magician]

Thanks Flea.
I barely played among us.

Oh. Hmm. If it works that way, that complicates things some.

... I play it far too much... I would've been devastated if I missed the chance to play this one ( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉)

I'm also absolutely evil as the imposter in the game. I have stack killed, I have killed, walked away and reported others, and I have AFKilled in the start areas lol

[Flea The Magician]

This should be obvious but just to reiterate: the more townies that die, the more tasks we have to get done with fewer players.

That's the logic of the noelim.

The counter point and mechanical balance to this is imposters won't want to claim tasks, because they no longer count as town tasks and are basically completed. So you look for people not claiming tasks.

[Flea The Magician]

If anything, you'd be wanting to push the tasks onto the SR people, as if they are scum, then they're "completed"

Unless I've read the setup wrong

[Flea The Magician]

I'll claim my room if and only if exactly 1 or 2 other players are going to the same room as me. That way if I die it'll be clear who else was with me, but if I'm alone on N1 Imposters can't risk going to random rooms looking for me, but if only 1 room is empty I might be with the group of 3 or whatever and we'll just all find out about it at night.

I can't keep track of everything that's been claimed, and I'll wait until we decide where we're going.

Uhm, this is odd. You're wanting other people to claim before you do, and you'll only claim once people are going to your rooms.

You kinda sus.
VOTE: Akarin

[Flea The Magician]

So in theory it seems all tasks are a post restriction of some sort, I'd expect them all to be "short" style tasks.

O2 and Reactor MUST BE FIXED or imposters win.
Comms would be a global post restriction maybe?
Lights might hide kills?

...

What good can

possibly

come from this line of discussion?

People were asking, and I know some people enjoy setup spec.

[Flea The Magician]

no get back on the no elim wagon don't be distracted

I was never on it!

I saw gamma vent and voted. ﾍ(･_|

[Flea The Magician]

How do scum “take” tasks

Dead crew tasks are made public, and people claim them.

[Flea The Magician]

So in theory it seems all tasks are a post restriction of some sort, I'd expect them all to be "short" style tasks.

O2 and Reactor MUST BE FIXED or imposters win.
Comms would be a global post restriction maybe?
Lights might hide kills?

...

What good can

possibly

come from this line of discussion?

People were asking, and I know some people enjoy setup spec.

Oh well if they enjoy it then I guess that's okay no wait the opposite of that.

And now people know why I was voted

[Flea The Magician]

Anyone (even imposters) may claim tasks that are public information by PMing me.
Tasks claimed by mafia that are not completed are not counted against the town completing all of their tasks.

To me this is imposters claiming tasks essentially auto-complete them.

[Flea The Magician]

The other thing is we don't have a progress bar to know if a task is completed or not. But I'd imagine scum aren't willing to take on tasks because of this.

So trying to get the scummier players to take on tasks is definitely an advantage here.

[Flea The Magician]

@Flea

If someone claims to be done with their tasks (which is more obvious if we've claimed what we're doing) then under what circumstances do you imagine anyone refuses to take on a task?

There is none, unless they're imposters.

[Flea The Magician]

Does anyone have post restrictions that will really strongly impair playing the game as normal on later days?

It will be pretty annoying, but nothing that would impact the content

MIssed this. I have a word count restriction later on

[Flea The Magician]

idk about y'all but both my tasks require specific posts so i think we should try to restrict postcount in later days and focus on thought-out, task checked walls

*looks at condo prices in dead thread*

What’s with the condo stuff

I think she's not expecting to last long

Oh and titus, no pocketing me this time. I will remain oblivious to your attempts

[Flea The Magician]

i am going to be much lower post count when i get post restricted cuz my post restriction is kinda annoying

ʕノ•ᴥ•ʔノ ︵ ┻━┻

[Flea The Magician]

There is none, unless they're imposters.

But Imposters have to take the tasks too, no one's gonna claim Imposter like that.

With ~34 tasks and 10 different rooms I just think some of you are overestimating how quickly we'll get tasks done.

I like Pooky's plan for the most part, although I think maybe only claiming N1 might be better, then work out a new arrangement on N2. But popcorning is probably best.

Since I already felt I had to claim that I'm in the same room twice, that puts me in a weird spot, I don't want to wait until N2 and N3 to do anything if it doesn't make sense for anyone else to go with me, I'd be willing to risk it alone, and that might be worth doing depending on where others are going.

And I think people that have to be in the same room twice should probably NOT claim that about their roles unless they are claiming everything.

I just needed to get that out there so people knew it was a thing that could exist.

Oh I know it's going to take a while, I've got a long task (∩︵∩)

OOOOOOOO I wonder if you can do a double post restriction and get both tasks done

[Flea The Magician]

no tasks get distributed after a town player dies

By who?

[Flea The Magician]

Honestly, I'd try for pairs. We know if one dies, the other is imposter.

I think we can get more done operating in pairs and getting tasks done than having larger groups.

This does assume all kills are announced, but treat it like lovers maybe? If one dies, make sure their partner is eliminated.

Best of both worlds I guess?

[Flea The Magician]

outworldER obvtowning.

I'm not going in a pair. I'm not convinced I'm going in a 3.

Fair.

if there is 2 nightkills, it puts suspicion on 2 different pairs - leaving us with a 50/50

also if we are going for a task-win we want as many people alive for as long as possible.

I got latched on imps only having the room kill not the factional kill for some reason. I blame 1am brain.

larger groups are definitely a go then.

[Flea The Magician]

So we are going to need everyone to claim rooms... this is going to be interesting. And I don't like it :/

[Flea The Magician]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORNIN CREW!

Spoiler: Catchup wall

scum can only use the bonus NK on someone in a room if they are in the room with that person AND there are no other town in that room.

so if there r 2 town in a room, a bonus NK can't happen in that room.

also when someone dies, their tasks become open to be claimed, so that sets us back, hence why I said more alive townies = faster task completion

couldn't scum just not speak and not reveal they're in the room at night

I'd imagine it gets declared in the PT?

What if scum could move someone from one room to another
that would actually be kinda fucked.

That'd be a cool mechanic kinda blows the plans out of the water though :/

I agree that it is probably not going to be a good idea to no elim
We definitely will be required to scum hunt

But there is still a possibility of a day 1 no elim being useful. Also in general I prefer to talk these things out. So yeah I get what you are doing and I'm probably on board but also thinking about all of it is still good.

Given the nature of the basic game we're playing here, I'd agree. Pushin a task win would be far too easy without imposters being able to massively sabotage something. (⊹◕ʖ̯◕)

(•ө•)Polly wants a cracker (•ө•)

I think OutWorldER is being far too

dogmatic

」(￣▽￣」)

@Gamma

Is there any sort of thing we can say that would help you with future post restrictions? A list of quotable sentences?

Ignore this if you aren't allowed to say.

Honestly if everyone just posts a few larger content posts I should be fine.

Larger you say? ლ(｀∀´ლ) mwaaahahaaahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahaha*coughspluttercough*
ahem ^_^

My brain hurts. I have zero idea on how to approach this day play without wagons. My data is my crutch.

I kinda like Taly though.

Make a wagon! VOTE: Titus (｀∀´)Ψ

Is anyone actually opposed to the idea of deliberately traveling in groups to our room for the nights?

I'm not sure if the people objecting to claims are objecting to that part too?

Sounds good to me ^_^ done my claim too. Storage and security.

I think allowing the opportunity for scum to get an extra kill is important
we also shouldn't be sending anyone that's too important if we do try to create opportunities for scum to kill. Town can benefit off of a townie that needs to be sorted dieing.

I'm not sure on this though.

Yeah when I proposed the buddy system I wasn’t factoring in that scum had a vanilla NK too
I think the optimal move would just be towny people with other towny people, and vice versa. Essentially play this like a dance game.

we're getting dance partners?! OwO

*looks at the player list* ... *claims murder gato*

Mine! ✧♡(◕‿◕✿)

Why didn’t you press Flea on the vote, Akarin?

Because Flea did it after.

What did I do again? 210 was my game entry and RVS?

Flea had the same intent. Why is it deifferent if it comes after? That seems a bit dishonest to push one and not the other.

I forgot what I did... I gotta ISO myself now don't I... nope still dunno what I did.

Flea had the same intent. Why is it deifferent if it comes after? That seems a bit dishonest to push one and not the other.

Flea did a big catchup post, if they really cared about getting the pass from you that much they could have just made that joke before doing it.

... Is this about gamma vented?

is it just me or is gamma obvtowning it up

Yup.

*yoinks Gamma*

Also mine! (ノ〝∩｡∩)ﾉ

Flea had the same intent. Why is it deifferent if it comes after? That seems a bit dishonest to push one and not the other.

Flea did a big catchup post, if they really cared about getting the pass from you that much they could have just made that joke before doing it.

That checks out actually. Time would have been of the essence.

You know I just spew my brain with little care for how I'm read anyway

Also I think groups of 3 should work for trying to keep scum from killing
Maybe have 2 groups of 2 to deal with the last one tonight?

Honestly this seems like a very solid plan
2/4 scummiest players pair off into 1/2 rooms, the rest go in groups of three. This handles any size amount of people going into a night phase.

Gotta admire the confidence (✿ ♥‿♥)

Hot take: The entire scum team hasn’t claimed locations yet because they are waiting to figure out what to do.

Blitzo, reckoner, tgp, hasch, dgb, ower, cakez, akarin and bell... hmmm. …(。。*)

Hot take: The entire scum team hasn’t claimed locations yet because they are waiting to figure out what to do.

i am literally not claiming locations or tasks today so yeet me or stop blustering

Y E E T

nah this seems town to me. the open defiance

If we go the no elimination route, BM, Gamma and I should take the task of whomever dies. We can split up the tasks so that we can complete them tomorrow night.

towncred attempt with buddying? (ԾεԾ|||)

i will, under no circumstances, "do what I'm told" lmfao

yup. town.

MC sell me on these reads you had earlier. Also tell me who you want to wagon right now and if you're willing to join me on a Pooky wagon.

It seems like the most relevant one is Pooky, who I think is starting the game more closely to how he did in death curse than in 2170. I'm not gonna like hard commit to anything though

Okay yeah Pooky locktown
Pooky’s early game is like his most readable, but the thing is my methods absolutely will not work even if my current meta line of thought on him is right because of the type of game this is (also fuck off Reck I know you dislike meta but it IS useful and you’re an old crab)

Disagree on the locktown. 2 people have concerns over their plan and both met with heavy resistance.

scum absolutely 100% have powers/ways to fuck with room assignments. there are vents to hop between rooms unseen. there are sabotages to force people to specific rooms or we lose the game. etc. tons of mechanics that are THEMATICALLY SPOT-ON that would fuck us with a mass claim. especially once scum know exactly where everybody has to go to complete tasks, they can use their bullshit to fuck with us in a major way

Skeld

Room locks, O2, reactor, comms and lights.

MIRA HQ

O2, reactor, comms and lights sabotage.

Polus

Door locks have to manually undone, lights, comms, seismic stabilisers.

take yo pick.

Also reminding people Reck scumslipped in a post

Where o.o

our townbloc is pretty big for this early in the game

Theres a townblock? O.O

Also reminding people Reck scumslipped in a post

Point this out to me.

Also Reck is the only person talking any sense right now; I too have already decided which room I'm going to tonight. I'll let you know where it is tomorrow.

3 dissenters...

VOTE: titus

Someones wearing his birthday suit....

TAAAALLLLLYYYYYYYY!
1) How are you?
2) Who is your worst read at the moment?
3) Is there anything so far you disagree with?
4) Why are you upside down? ( ͜。 ͡ʖ ͜。)

[Flea The Magician]

murderkitties

, i like your 563 but i feel like your 365 went a bit hard onto a slot relatively early for the games pace

how has your

cakez

read progressed?

TAAAALLLLLYYYYYYYY!
1) How are you?
2) Who is your worst read at the moment?
3) Is there anything so far you disagree with?
4) Why are you upside down? ( ͜。 ͡ʖ ͜。)

1)

good, bout to get to college work, need to stop letting mafia distract haha

2)

no particular scumreads... need to reread

TGP

because they did not pass the vibe check.

alisae

passed the vibe check but not yet the deepwolf check. i think you are quite fluffy even with your wall, tbh - i want more concrete statements from you.

pooky

feels agenda-y but that doesnt ping me by itself.
i think the amount of times

reck

comes into this thread only to say

"i wont read and i denounce the threads mentality"

is genuine BUT is being used deflectively.
actually did not care for this readslist from

BM

i think it's most likely that Alisae is town and Titus is scum. Akarin town, Pooky town, Cakez town.

felt very early to make reads on these players, at least mostly town-ones.

id rather

BM

just explain these reads. i think

OWER

prodded them at some point but if they replied, the answer wasnt noticeable enough for me to see it.

(maybe OWER prodded murderkitties instead)

3)

disagreement is not the correct word... more cautiously inquisitive. this town did not have a very cohesive start with everything considered.

4)

why i am upside down you ask?
my nails are lavender D:< not as red as my role PM or as green as what id want to brag they be.

Congratz you passed my vibe check ╭( ･ㅂ･)و ̑̑

[Flea The Magician]

I'm watching Ali tbh, I've been burned there before and it was

P A I N F U L

[Flea The Magician]

Assuming game flavour, I wouldn't except any town PRs unless town are in certain rooms.

Admin would inform people how many people are in what room (not who)

Security would in theory tell people who passed between some rooms from/to.

[Flea The Magician]

Assuming game flavour, I wouldn't except any town PRs unless town are in certain rooms.

Admin would inform people how many people are in what room (not who)

Security would in theory tell people who passed between some rooms from/to.

[Flea The Magician]

Treating this like you treat the game, you can either run around and hope you don't get murderised, or you try and group up. A lot of the time the grouping up doesn't happen until there's smaller numbers despite the obvious advantages.

Actually having sat and thought about it (owwie ( ⚆ _ ⚆ ) ).

1-2 tasks each, taking between 1 and 2 room phases. Min 1 phase, max 4 Phases. 4 Phases is incredibly unlikely.
2-3 is likely the average.

Going for a task victory alone isn't going to work I don't think. We know there's probably sabotage things that can be done, and I think it's a safe assumption that each player ejection would add another phase at least for the first 2 or 3 phases?

Be like a carrot on the end of the stick kinda thing I reckon, we'll get to it but it'll always just be out of reach...


hmmmm

[Flea The Magician]

I'm watching Ali tbh, I've been burned there before and it was

P A I N F U L

this stance weirds me out. Not sure what teh reason is to be paranoid tbh. Maybe it just doesn’t matter tho.

Suffice to say I'm not going back to school with you, you bully .( ̵˃﹏˂̵ )

[Flea The Magician]

I'm watching Ali tbh, I've been burned there before and it was

P A I N F U L

this stance weirds me out. Not sure what teh reason is to be paranoid tbh. Maybe it just doesn’t matter tho.

Suffice to say I'm not going back to school with you, you bully .( ̵˃﹏˂̵ )

I’m not that hard to read :/

In fairness I caught on pretty quick to your alignment, it was more the NK of me and WIFOM your way out of it that has me watching you (̿▀̿ ̿Ĺ̯̿̿▀̿ ̿)̄

[Flea The Magician]

Btw flea you probably shouldn’t put votes in spoilers
They won’t get counted

It wasn't really a serious vote anyway

[Flea The Magician]

Scum motivation for anything is information and towncred.

Town's motivation is find scum and win.

It pretty much always comes down to that surely?

[Flea The Magician]

The way you describe it Flea makes it sounds like scum supports massclaim

I believe they would. Given the state of play the can just kinda chill out, see who claims where then claim rooms with fewer people, target night kills at larger groups and potentially score free bonus kills. Also given that the imposters are given fake tasks, people claiming tasks gives them an idea of what tasks are in the game, and would give them more information to help fabricate their claims.

I would imagine scum have already discussed their fake tasks in their PT and assuming they each got 2 fake tasks each, everyone claiming tasks gives them a nice big pool to pick and choose from, allowing them to get where they want to be to manipulate things.


On the other hand, us declaring our locations ONLY allows near-optimal route planning, there are some long tasks so that would have to be accounted for in some places. This could leave people in some rooms alone so it provides scum some additional information.

unless our optimal route can be fully 100% optimal, we probably should just bring the chaos. Remember there are PTs for each room as well so other things can be discussed there with people.

[Flea The Magician]

Ya I want some Chaos
I trust you to create that environment

Is this free reign to just run around the ship like a lunatic? ( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉)

Also Flea while ur at it what do you think of Titus

Cautious at the moment, People are saying she's more vote and wagon driven, but she's not doing much in that way.

are we really moving away from the idea of a systematic and cohesive team approach, to a free-for-all?

Maybe. Why? What'cha thinkin ( ͝סּ ͜ʖ͡סּ)

[Flea The Magician]

Wait, Flea, why do you think coordinating where we go

increases

the chance of scum getting bonus NKs?
Who said anything about the bonus NKs? Later on in the game, maybe.
Scum go into the smaller groups, aim standard NKs at the larger groups or even chip their group down to them and another player. Stick with that other player for a bit, direct kills elsewhere, it's a pseudo clear. People will get stuck on this and keep saying person X is clear.

Alternatively, get in the larger group, use the NK to chip down the larger group, when it's down to 2, imp kill and NK elsewhere, in another group of 2 to frame.

Better yet, 2 imps pair off, form a group of 2 and just snipe around. occasionally split off when people are in rooms alone for the bonus kill and claim to be together.

The whole point of coordination is to make the bonus NKs nearly impossible.

Ya I want some Chaos
I trust you to create that environment

Is this free reign to just run around the ship like a lunatic? ( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉)

Also Flea while ur at it what do you think of Titus

Cautious at the moment, People are saying she's more vote and wagon driven, but she's not doing much in that way.

are we really moving away from the idea of a systematic and cohesive team approach, to a free-for-all?

Maybe. Why? What'cha thinkin ( ͝סּ ͜ʖ͡סּ)

i think that would be a stupid idea

Whhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

[Flea The Magician]

Wait, Flea, why do you think coordinating where we go

increases

the chance of scum getting bonus NKs?
Who said anything about the bonus NKs? Later on in the game, maybe.
Scum go into the smaller groups, aim standard NKs at the larger groups or even chip their group down to them and another player. Stick with that other player for a bit, direct kills elsewhere, it's a pseudo clear. People will get stuck on this and keep saying person X is clear.

Alternatively, get in the larger group, use the NK to chip down the larger group, when it's down to 2, imp kill and NK elsewhere, in another group of 2 to frame.

Better yet, 2 imps pair off, form a group of 2 and just snipe around. occasionally split off when people are in rooms alone for the bonus kill and claim to be together.

The whole point of coordination is to make the bonus NKs nearly impossible.

Ya I want some Chaos
I trust you to create that environment

Is this free reign to just run around the ship like a lunatic? ( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉)

Also Flea while ur at it what do you think of Titus

Cautious at the moment, People are saying she's more vote and wagon driven, but she's not doing much in that way.

are we really moving away from the idea of a systematic and cohesive team approach, to a free-for-all?

Maybe. Why? What'cha thinkin ( ͝סּ ͜ʖ͡סּ)

i think that would be a stupid idea

Whhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: battle mage

You are now within the gaze of an emisary of chaos. We are not liable for any random limb dismemberments, universes, defiance of the laws of physics or acts of god that may occur during this time.

[Flea The Magician]

The way you describe it Flea makes it sounds like scum supports massclaim

I believe they would. Given the state of play the can just kinda chill out, see who claims where then claim rooms with fewer people, target night kills at larger groups and potentially score free bonus kills. Also given that the imposters are given fake tasks, people claiming tasks gives them an idea of what tasks are in the game, and would give them more information to help fabricate their claims.

You said it.

Frankly, I think you're thinking about this wrong. Far too fuzzy. We're not actually playing Among Us.

Like it's hard to tell where you're wrong because you seem to simultaneously be saying different things at various points, but you keep saying stuff that just seems incorrect (and even sometimes disagrees with yourself.)

wait we're not ⚆ᗝ⚆

You havent noticed I just stream what my brain is saying at this point have you?

[Flea The Magician]

I have, but I'm worried about how jumbled your brain is...

Honestly.... same. o.o

[Flea The Magician]

The way you describe it Flea makes it sounds like scum supports massclaim

I believe they would. Given the state of play the can just kinda chill out, see who claims where then claim rooms with fewer people, target night kills at larger groups and potentially score free bonus kills. Also given that the imposters are given fake tasks, people claiming tasks gives them an idea of what tasks are in the game, and would give them more information to help fabricate their claims.

I would imagine scum have already discussed their fake tasks in their PT and assuming they each got 2 fake tasks each, everyone claiming tasks gives them a nice big pool to pick and choose from, allowing them to get where they want to be to manipulate things.

On the other hand, us declaring our locations ONLY allows near-optimal route planning, there are some long tasks so that would have to be accounted for in some places. This could leave people in some rooms alone so it provides scum some additional information.

unless our optimal route can be fully 100% optimal, we probably should just bring the chaos. Remember there are PTs for each room as well so other things can be discussed there with people.

this seems kinda too much information to me no? I haven't thought about any of these things

Hyperfixation on Among Us, in the actual game I have a route I follow as imp and another as crew. These routes are optimised to me, imp routes get me sneaky kills, crew routes either kill me quickly or keep me alive until 3p.

Just because you haven't thought it, doesn't mean others haven't. I just have a damned weird brain (((o(*ﾟ▽ﾟ*)o)))

why is murdercatto not tryharding this game?

highly susp

what do you expect from flareon

Ikr, the worst of the eevee-lutions. Why have a special type pokémon have a higher physical attack than special attack

[Flea The Magician]

i want attention

*goes back to typing up presentations on highly detailed genetics concepts and research articles*

*gives attention*

I want it back later though

[Flea The Magician]

Time for a Diva Flea ISO?

Sure why not. Sod it. Lets have a giggle

Spoiler: Mr Know It All, Esq.

/ego

What even is this and why is it a thing? like seriously :/

Also,

Vote: Flea the Magician

. They know why.

Not my fault I'm a baddie (⌯˃̶᷄ ﹏ ˂̶᷄⌯)ﾟ

Before I even think about claiming my two locations I just want to say that I will be going to a specific one of them first regardless of what the chart says.

Technically a dissenter? That makes 4 by my count now.

See this is interesting, I think this is the only one that's gone "Yeah I'll tell you where I'm going but screw you if you try to leash me", followed by...

Actually looking and thinking it over this plan is bad and doomed to failure.

Pooky Sus

only 5 minutes later... (ಠ.ಠ) Not sure if pooks is actually sus or if joke.

So in theory it seems all tasks are a post restriction of some sort, I'd expect them all to be "short" style tasks.

O2 and Reactor MUST BE FIXED or imposters win.
Comms would be a global post restriction maybe?
Lights might hide kills?

...

What good can

possibly

come from this line of discussion?

Only pulls me on this, curiously. (ὸ⍸ό)✧

So in theory it seems all tasks are a post restriction of some sort, I'd expect them all to be "short" style tasks.

O2 and Reactor MUST BE FIXED or imposters win.
Comms would be a global post restriction maybe?
Lights might hide kills?

...

What good can

possibly

come from this line of discussion?

People were asking, and I know some people enjoy setup spec.

Oh well if they enjoy it then I guess that's okay no wait the opposite of that.

Drops this like it's a bad fart, and promptly leaves. No contribution, no commitment, just ε=(｡◕ฺˇд ˇ◕ฺ｡）

Also reminding people Reck scumslipped in a post

Point this out to me.

Also Reck is the only person talking any sense right now; I too have already decided which room I'm going to tonight. I'll let you know where it is tomorrow.

This is literally just an echo of a previous post s( ^ ‸ ^)-p

VERDICT

Much Sus. definitely one on my "Insert into MC Escher's Stairs" list.

[Flea The Magician]

Oh gods it's going to be fun trying to churn those out in a large game lol

[Flea The Magician]

also OH GOD I think I ate too much ice cream aaaaaaaaah T_T

*looks at the empty pint of salted caramel ice cream fae just shared with faer partner*

... I may have an issue...

DGB ingoring me...noted

Sucks don't it...

something feels off
what do you think of Titus and Haschel?

they both feel red to me

titus more so

concur

Justify your concurrence.

This is what Battle Mage won't answer.

I hit scum, whoops!

Same tho (੭ु˙꒳​˙)੭ु⁾⁾

[Flea The Magician]

Other tham Hershel being a professional grump is there a reason for the votes on him

They be scummy.

[Flea The Magician]

hv n d wht mn pky?

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: battle mage

You are now within the gaze of an emisary of chaos. We are not liable for any random limb dismemberments, universes, defiance of the laws of physics or acts of god that may occur during this time.

I was voting you before it was cool

[Flea The Magician]

Sooooo youre calling DGB scum?(´⊙o⊙`；)

[Flea The Magician]

wndr wht th wrst pst rstrctn s....

[Flea The Magician]

why am I hyper braining at 10pm (⊙△⊙✿)

[Flea The Magician]

Sooooo youre calling DGB scum?(´⊙o⊙`；)

playground bully tactics

Hey you said it's only cool if peeps is scum, I did it before it was cool therefore as dgb made it cool, your logic says dbg is scum!

why would you put this in your game

Because fun!

---

Side note, you think that logic is good? I have a true chaotic air genasi. The DM loves to hate her because of her immaculate crazy logic


pedit: YES. I WOULD'VE JOINED EVEN QUICKER!

[Flea The Magician]

ngl I'm devasted I don't have a restriction that's "post only in song lyrics"

[Flea The Magician]

ngl I'm devasted I don't have a restriction that's "post only in song lyrics"

[Flea The Magician]

Because fun!

ya
for the mod

and me 《《o(≧◇≦)o》》

[Flea The Magician]

... yup mt brain be hyper mode.

abab = assigned bacon at birth.

[Flea The Magician]

That's prably why there's no only using song lyrics.

I listen to some weird ass stuff and it'll probably all be non english for the giggles

Firse uthega yaara
Firse udega yaara
Andhero mein tu kabse

Rise once again.
Fly once again.
For too long you've lain in darkness

[Flea The Magician]

G

onna teach you a thing now listen hard.

E

njoy as the shadows of darkness grow cold.

N

ever again will you ever doubt the best,

G

onna draw you into shadow and drop you dead.

A

re you read to learn of the greatest of the old?

R

eady to run because GENGAR don't need rest.

idk if it sucks I'm proud of that one.

[Flea The Magician]

Explains why e has the sprout on e's head

[Flea The Magician]

Well you were right xD

PEDIT I'll grab a screenshot

[Flea The Magician]

It me.


It Alisae

[Flea The Magician]

you're planning to elim me today so does it matter?

no idea why, i'm obvtown here.

Why do people have this lay down and die mentality, it's so vexing! (；￣Д￣）
And no, you're not obvtown.

[Flea The Magician]

flea

i notice you say

Hasch

is sus but are still on

BM

, why?

BM is my greater sus atm there is something off and I'm about to do an ISO dive

[Flea The Magician]

It me.


It Alisae

WHAT

I dont hear an argument

Was tempted to make you the carrot, ngl

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: No Elim

Convenient evidence

[Flea The Magician]

o(^▽^)o DIVA FLEA ISO FUN TIME! o(^▽^)o

Spoiler: Our Jester

Alright. I wanna start off with an RQS this game. Questions are as follows:

1) what power role have you not been that you want to try out, and why? Don’t factor in your current role, answer this question assuming you are vanilla this game.
2) If you were scum, who would be your a) D1 miselim push, b) N1 kill, and c) partner you’d want to bus you and go to the end, given each person was the correct alignment for that specific action?
3) What is your skill with mechanic-heavy setups? If you’re not skilled at them, do you intend to get better with practice or rely on others?
4) What is your favorite candy?
5) What would you say is your biggest strength and biggest weakness as town/scum/in general?

1. I'd like to be cult leader in a game where my entire cult didn't bus me to death.
2.a. probably you b. probably Titus c. Pooky or DGB
3. Generally bad, but I played a similar game to this recently. I was so bad I somehow managed to die twice before anyone else had died. But it was so fun!!
4. Candy bad.
5. Biggest strength as town = pretty much never getting mis-elimmed. Biggest strength as scum = mostly winning because my bad reads are a benefit

HE DOESN'T LIKE CANDY?! LIKE WHAT?!
Also, check out number 5. Never getting mislim'd and having bad reads. hmmm...

what happens to tasks when ppl die though? do we have to do fewer tasks?

when people die their tasks get distributed we can figure out a good system for this later.

ah in that case, yeah i like the no-elim plan. I have fewer tasks than you I think.

Mech talk, and hinting at something? Maybe this is just out of context.

I have 1 I think. I go to a room, then I do my task.

Not quite as bad a fart as what HC dropped, but this still stinks to me ║ * ರ Ĺ̯ ರ * ║ also Spongebob doesn't approve.

VOTE: Murdercat

MY EYES! THEY BURRRRN! SOMEONE PUT SOME CLOTHES ON THIS VOTE! (ʘ ل͟├┬┴┬┴

VOTE: XreckonerX

├┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┤

well outing the locations is good and bad
good because we can make a plan
bad because scum can mess with that plan presumably

maybe but i'd rather have the entire game leashed so people dont wander off and murder each other in the room they shouldn't be in

I'm with you bud!!

Adding nothing...

well outing the locations is good and bad
good because we can make a plan
bad because scum can mess with that plan presumably

Lol are you actually scum cake

you think outing everything now is good? I see too much risk

we've started now dude. I'm totally down with elimming in the pool of those who won't claim if we have such a thing.

THA'S A BIIIIIIIIG POOOOOLLLL. (⊃‿⊂)

tbh if Battle Mage kills me in electrical
I'm happy with that

don't worry, you can trust me

Nope.

VOTE: no elim

i'm on the board

No that's a plank. ლ(ಠ_ಠლ)

should we all claim task number? i see no reason not to

I have 2

I have one.
I plan on doing mine asap so I can pick up one of the other tasks and then do it.

I like your style Titus. I was planning on doing mine, and then kicking back on Night 2

I don't like this. Like I really don't like this. (๑•﹏•)

I feel pretty relaxed with Pooky in charge - he knows how to do this game.

Wait you relaxed with someone else in charge?

Completely! the last time we played a game similar to this I got singled out and killed by scum immediately. Pooky didn't realise I was dead and tried to rescue me....dying himself in the process.

He knows that people getting picked off sucks, and is coming up with a plan to avoid that. Total townvibes.

Or this... This is scum vibes to me. This is "I'mma coast and let other people do the hard work" and with the last post, doesn't sit well with me.

Battle Mage has 1 task so it should be fine.
I can also go w/ Battle Mage so you feel safer, I have a 2nd task but I don't mind it if it would make you feel safer

I'm not planning to go anywhere without 3/4 people minimum.

This is interesting...

i guess the alternative to all moving in a pack would be for people to pair up - easy way to identify scum.

And this is why. I'm getting a people pleaser vibe here.

every1 claim what rooms you need for your tasks

i will excel it and figure out optimal pathing

alisae will probly do it faster and better

electricity room?

wait you really only have 1 room to go to?

Same and it happens to be the same room.

So it looks like BM and I are sharing a room for the night.

goshdarn Titus, are you going to kill me?

But isn't Alisae there too?

this will be a strange mafia game where no scumhunting is required

*shudders*

Maybe this is just in the context I'm looking at where I'm getting the vibes of the scums but this REALLY isn't feeling right to me now.

I think allowing the opportunity for scum to get an extra kill is important
we also shouldn't be sending anyone that's too important if we do try to create opportunities for scum to kill. Town can benefit off of a townie that needs to be sorted dieing.

I'm not sure on this though.

if we're just going to do the tasks and win, does sorting even matter though?

Like we've said why we still need to sort people but he's hesitant to be sorted it seems?

I dunno, I feel like I'm in a rabbit hole at this point and everythings just going to go "I'M SCUM!" at me? (¤﹏¤)

it doesnt matter if someone needs to be in a room two nights in a row. the point of leashing the entire PL is that nobody can wander off and kill you when u r in that room alone on night 2

I meant in terms of how many nights it make take to complete. We can't just visit X number of rooms each night and cover each room on 1 night.

Maybe not enough people have combinations like mine for it to matter, but wanted to claim this before we get too far.

Also splitting into smaller groups where the towniest players are paired makes sense, but if scum have a regular NK they can potentially frame people.

ah i hadnt thought about the framing thing. do the kills take place at the same time though?

Honestly, have you given this game any thought? :/

Like I'm not okay with obvtown getting killed via the extra kill mechanic, so it would be someone that town would be okay with dieing.

pedit: I mean I think we can try to go for a task any% speedrun but I think if we get handed a free scum lynch we should take it?

agree if it's on a plate due to a cop investigation or something, but otherwise I'm not keen on us elimming through half-assed scumhunting when we are all handicapped with post restrictions and the like.

Half assed is better than none.

Wait, wait, wait.
Is there even any hunting in this game.

i think that's what we're trying to establish now mate. My guess is, maybe not.

uh.... you were pretty set on no scumhunting not so long ago?

suddenly I want to yeet Flea for making my page size double
and also for doing the RQS thats gross

not to mention calling me scum coz i claimed my room

"electrical?" seems questioning and not like a claim. I just get bad vibes from you... also wow I'm only on page 9?

UNVOTE:

I think I still want to wield the stick of elimming someone who refuses to claim.

We got more reasoning for the unvote than we have for both votes?

VOTE: titus

VOTE: Haschel

├┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┤
├┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┤ . o O (Please someone let me know when it's safe to come out?
├┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┤

Ya I want some Chaos
I trust you to create that environment

Is this free reign to just run around the ship like a lunatic? ( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉)

Also Flea while ur at it what do you think of Titus

Cautious at the moment, People are saying she's more vote and wagon driven, but she's not doing much in that way.

are we really moving away from the idea of a systematic and cohesive team approach, to a free-for-all?

Maybe. Why? What'cha thinkin ( ͝סּ ͜ʖ͡סּ)

i think that would be a stupid idea

... Why?

something feels off
what do you think of Titus and Haschel?

they both feel red to me

titus more so

concur

Why?

if i sleep now, hopefully this will all have blown over in the morning...

ₒ₍₊˒₃˓₎ₒ▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩⃛

you guys should definitely do all the posting done today you want to do

cuz tommorrow is going to be comically badly post restricted lolol

nobody fuck up their tasks pls

can we finish the massclaim and go to night then? seems like we're not achieving much else.

You haven't exactly contributed yourself.

you're planning to elim me today so does it matter?

I still hate this attitude...

no idea why, i'm obvtown here.

No... no you're not. Why do people think they're obvtown? Like fine you know your PM but to me you're closer to obvscum than obvtown, honestly.

you're planning to elim me today so does it matter?

It's only 2 days into deadline.

When did I ever say I wanted you to be the elim?

you're literally campaigning to get ppl to vote for me.

Maybe so there's pressure on you to actually contribute?

VOTE: No Elim

├┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┤
├┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┤ . o O ( I have a really bad feeling it will never be safe to come out of here...
├┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┤

VERDICT

Happy keeping my vote here for now.

[Flea The Magician]

Also, cats are the best. I will accept no other input in this. I will summon Isis.

[Flea The Magician]

flea

i notice you say

Hasch

is sus but are still on

BM

, why?

BM is my greater sus atm there is something off and I'm about to do an ISO dive

ehhhh. not a fan that you sus'ed the other popular wagon because it feels like youre waiting to jump elsewhere

but ill wait for your ISO dive before further thought.

I looked at HC because people were asking for suspicions on that slot and I was hyper braining so figured I'd get warmed up on that one. BM was a stronger suspicion since my entry post.

I like to case people and confirm my reads when I have the hyper brain function available to me (⊙ꇴ⊙)

[Flea The Magician]

me? Is this attention? DO I GET A PET DOGGO?!

[Flea The Magician]

Chaos needs to sleep. Chaos wishes you all good morning!

*sits wide eyed on the chair, snoring like an asthmatic elephant*

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Maybe I just really like Flea's posting this game and I'm biased tho.

*climbs into Bells pocket*

i refuse to be LHF this game, ill do stuff soon.

i legit have had 9 hours nonstop of working on assignments, i have 5+ projects/tests due in less than 2 weeks, and as soon as tomorrow.

i also have 2 doctor's appointments tomorrow and Friday because my body is rebelling

i
am
fucked

but yeah, sorry if im a bit ambiguous rn. ill utilize it as a means to gamesolve soon.

*grabby hands*

Nope, can't reach. You're not LHF. Also hope you're ok <3 try not to burn out, drink water and do the self care! (> ^_^ )>

the more im thinking about the tasks the more I am going to dread doing them.

honestly makes me just want to not do tasks but i feel like that's unfair to my team

town af posting from Alisae
keep doing you Ali

i am going to deathtunnel you

OOOO lemme get popcorn first ◕‿↼

I demand Taly focus on their life instead of playing mafia until such time as they are less preoccupied.
Life should be lived in the moment.
What a lovely platitude.

*Cheers from bells pocket*

(۶•̀ᴗ•́)۶

VOTE: Blitzo

I think I'm ready to leave RVS

We're still in RVS? o.o

So I've yet to see an argument for why the game would be designed around tasks being pointless, despite people asserting this to be true.

They're not pointless and should definitely be done as it's a viable wincon, just not the de-facto wincon. Same as in game, you're trying to find the imposters and complete your tasks. It's a viable wincon, not the de-facto wincon and honestly I've rarely seen a game where it's a task win. This is why I'm more skeptical on BM's "HAH no scumhunting required"

It's frustrating because I feel like people's eyes started glazing over at the mech talk and they just shut their brains down and stopped thinking about it.

People don't like being told how to play their game I guess and want to do their own thing.

obviously i can't prove this, but i think blitzo wrote this AFTER previewing and faked it

Probably not but this is a town thing to say I think

On the other hand, I think this is engineering a miselim on LHF using some stretchy reasoning that doesn' require proof. (´･＿･‘)

obviously i can't prove this, but i think blitzo wrote this AFTER previewing and faked it

Probably not but this is a town thing to say I think

battle mage is like, fairly town to me and i'm not inclined to eliminate there

buddys? I dunno. I don't know either player and this seems like a sloppy play if they are, not sure what I think here. (｡･~･｡)

PEDIT - #973 is simply not a good post.

Agreed, that's just like "HAH you can't say that, because half the game is like that!" In some people it can be tell.

You are correct that I am misnumbering - it was 974, not 973.

My second thought was that TGP was entirely forgettable.
I might let that develop for a bit and see what happens.

obviously i can't prove this, but i think blitzo wrote this AFTER previewing and faked it so they didn't

Already covered this. Still think 973 is a bit stinky though

Also reminding people Reck scumslipped in a post

Which post was the scumslip? Are you talking about 121?

no it was a longer one
he said "we nk" in a way that looks like he wrote up the post in the scum PT and left that in accidentally.

Linky?

TOWN
titus, gammaem, flea, outworlder*

AT LEAST ONE SCUM
alisae, battlemage, murdercat, pooky, cakez, tgp

SOME BIG NULL PILE SOMEWHERE
dgb, taly, blitzo, haschel

SCUMMY OUTSIDE OF MASSCLAIM BULLSHIT
murdercat, akarin, bell

what the fuck is this readslist

it's a readlist, nice of you to quote it and ask what it is

do you want to like, ask an actual question? or u just makin noise?

(ᗒᗜᗕ)՛̵̖

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORNIN CREW!

I think Flea is town
(for the entire post, not just the explicitly quoted part, I just took the top)

In fairness the top is the best part about that post imo And the upside down face at the bottom

Personally I feel OER or Bell are the more likely scums there, not BM

why
tbh Titus' reads seem sensible

BM is playing to town meta

As much as I dislike meta... this is worrying.

Personally I feel OER or Bell are the more likely scums there, not BM

why
tbh Titus' reads seem sensible

BM is playing to town meta

I think this is legitimately wrong

This is interesting, and less worrying.

do tasks, kill obvscum, win

play mafia

like people generally do

!(•̀ᴗ•́)و ̑̑

i made it real big 4 u

( ^ิ艸^ิﾟ)

right now im thinking

we do

3 to a room for 5 roomes
2 people solo (they don't say where they go)

if there's a bonus NK it has to be in a room where 2 scum - 1 town were

hence we get a double guilty.

Thoughts?

What if both NKs are in rooms with 2 people in?

BM is lurk fuck as scum and actually plays as town

Can his lurksackness be attributed to real life?

@Gamma, What do you mean by chaotic versus not chaotic?

Me here. Me in Death Curse. Ta-daaaaaa!
Oh wait, about BM. ok.

I am guessing there is a lights sabotage that messes with this. But there might also be a sabotage cooldown??

This would be a reasonable expectation. Lights Sab is one of the strongest things in the game so I'd be surprised if it's not in here to mess with us somehow.

@DGB - was this whole scumread thing a ploy to get me to vote for BM?

No - I want the game to hop.

U(´･×･`)U _boⁱn_g!

Okay, so using the magic of random.org, I did a night where everyone goes to a random room:
Assume 4 Imposters, everyone goes to a random room (Imposters can do better than this)

• Cafeteria: Crew #4
• Weapons: Crew #11, Imposter #4
• Navigation: Crew #6, Crew #12, Imposter #1, Imposter #3
• Shields: Crew #1, Crew #13
• Communications: Crew #3, Crew #7
• Admin: Crew #8
• Electrical: Crew #5, Crew #9
• Security:
• Reactor: Crew #2
• Upper Engine: Crew #10, Imposter #2

---

Say Crew #10 dies as a bonus kill to Imposter #2, and they use their normal kill on

Crew #11

.

Imposter #2 and Imposter #4 clear each other. Imposters #1 and #3 are cleared by a big group of town.
Crew #4, #8, #2 are suspicious.

Or if they really wanted to NK crew #9, for example, then Crew #5 has no one to vouch for them either, while

one of the Imposters is cleared by town and only 1 is left in a pool of suspicion with 4 townies.

FTFY. Also Imposters 2 and 4 would be under suspicion at that point imo as one of them would have had to kill, meaning neither is clear. Crew 4, 8 and 2 would also be suspect as well.

Ohwait, is this assuming chaos theory and not organised chaos? Never mind, I see your point.
That said, this is a pretty valid point on using chaos. hmm... It also depends on if the rooms get new PTs every night I guess, or if admin or security has MIRA HQ style logs?

everyone goes to a random room (Imposters can do better than this)

Everyone agrees this is bad though right? We need to at least let the people who want to group, group.

*Grabs Gamma and Catto*

MINE!

Everyone agrees this is bad though right? We need to at least let the people who want to group, group.

If it's like 5 people trying to group it's not much different than random is the point.

And no, I'm not sure everyone agrees this is bad. A lot of people keep saying things that make me think they

don't

actually agree this is bad.

Random means we don't accomplish tasks.

I'm not doing random. Period.

No so much random as in we just randomly disperse to an assigned room, more random in that we just all go to a random location based on individual choice. So lets say I head straight to storage for my looongboi task whch s gng t b fn t d - I don't know If anyone else is coming with me or where anyone else is going, and is thus a random distribution.

Akarin doing gods work here

PRAIsE AKARIN

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Are you just deliberately trying to muddy the water here Titus?

No. I just literally don't understand why you're saying random rooms at all.

That's another player on the "Throw into the infinity portal loop" list.

EBWOP

Okay, so using the magic of random.org, I did a night where everyone goes to a random room:
Assume 4 Imposters, everyone goes to a random room (Imposters can do better than this)

• Cafeteria: Crew #4
• Weapons: Crew #11, Imposter #4
• Navigation: Crew #6, Crew #12, Imposter #1, Imposter #3
• Shields: Crew #1, Crew #13
• Communications: Crew #3, Crew #7
• Admin: Crew #8
• Electrical: Crew #5, Crew #9
• Security:
• Reactor: Crew #2
• Upper Engine: Crew #10, Imposter #2

---

Say Crew #10 dies as a bonus kill to Imposter #2, and they use their normal kill on Crew #11.

Imposter #2 and Imposter #4 clear each other. Imposters #1 and #3 are cleared by a big group of town.
Crew #4, #8, #2 are suspicious.

Or if they really wanted to NK crew #9, for example, then Crew #5 has no one to vouch for them either, while

one of the Imposters is cleared by town and only 1 is left in a pool of suspicion with 4 townies.

This doesn't work as scum only get one edible kill per night so Imposter 2 and 4 cannot clear each other. They'd both have to be in solo rooms to do that.

They claim they were in the same room, clearing for that nights kill. I got there eventually ^_^

It's a win-win situation regardless of BM's alignment.

Not if he's scum????

It is.

We force him to take a task. It auto completes. If he refuses, we kill him.

The task lets us also control what room he goes to. So he's a liability to scum.

This feels like just parroting what's been said earlier... I'm getting the bad jujus from titus... hmmmm

I was working on my big excel sheet of mech spec

owo what's this

⊙ω⊙
You can have that one.

I need to go to sleep, but I just really wanted to hammer this home because I feel like a bunch of people are being unrealistic about the POE chances after a double NK.

And people keep picking at little things without really acknowledging the point I’m trying to make, but I feel like I need to answer those things.

If we just all do tasks willy-nilly,

2 town are going to die every night

and there will

not

be useful POE to figure out who killed them.

In exchange, we avoid giving scum information and we get the tasks done slightly faster. I don't think this is worth it, and I haven't actually seen an argument that it is, beyond vague handwaving and dogmatism.

I think you're fear mongering every so slightly.
I am trying to brain, and doing so badly. 10 rooms, 17 people...

Failing badly, I think relying on the odds is going to place us all in Gamblers Fallacy. It's like 1/20 of any two people being in the same room based on true randomness. Then its another 1/4 chance that the other person in the room with you is imposter.

it occurs to me at this point i could just tell you guys im going with the plan and deal w/ the consequences of not doing so tomorrow

im going with the plan

HAH

reck if you tell us you are going to room ___ and its got 3 people in it, and then you dont go to room ___ and instead there are 2 people, and one of them is scum, and he gets a bonus kill on town, we r going to lockscum you so you are just hardthrowing atp

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look guys i know this is pretty fast for some of you, but the most important question is whether we get everybody's assignments and whether we leash the entire PL to create safety and accountability and information.

Now we KNOW scum get a bonus NK if they get one of us alone in a room with them.

We want to avoid that - my strategy is to claim all rooms, figure out pathing, create accountability and a record of all movement so that we can avoid giving the scum an extra NK without them revealing to us exactly who is responsible.

If there's if we have Room A(3people) and Room B(3 people) - and 1 person from each room dies at night that means a double guilty in room A or B.

I don't want scum to get free NKs on us.

Now reck/outworld and some other folks believe its better if there is a fog of war and we can't see where everyone is going.

Their argument for this is "Well the mod must have accounted for this so it must be bad"

Like if the mod tells you that mafia get a bonus NK if they get in a room alone with you, why the heck would you not take steps to try to prevent this!?

like it just seems very silly to me for us to wander around alone and hope mafia dont find us when they spread out hunting.

We're not going to get everyones assignments, there's like 4 or 5 players against this plan.
Do you have a compromise idea? because you know, some of us are compromised at this point.

look guys i know this is pretty fast for some of you, but the most important question is whether we get everybody's assignments and whether we leash the entire PL to create safety and accountability and information.

Now we KNOW scum get a bonus NK if they get one of us alone in a room with them.

We want to avoid that - my strategy is to claim all rooms, figure out pathing, create accountability and a record of all movement so that we can avoid giving the scum an extra NK without them revealing to us exactly who is responsible.

If there's if we have Room A(3people) and Room B(3 people) - and 1 person from each room dies at night that means a double guilty in room A or B.

I don't want scum to get free NKs on us.

Now reck/outworld and some other folks believe its better if there is a fog of war and we can't see where everyone is going.

Their argument for this is "Well the mod must have accounted for this so it must be bad"

Like if the mod tells you that mafia get a bonus NK if they get in a room alone with you, why the heck would you not take steps to try to prevent this!?

like it just seems very silly to me for us to wander around alone and hope mafia dont find us when they spread out hunting.

how many times do i need to reiterate that the mod wouldnt fucking tell us what scum's secret mechanics are to fuck with rooms

imagine this: scum have an ability to move someone out of a room against their will

we sort people into rooms of 3

we also tell scum what fucking groups we're sending to each location

scum use an ability to move someone out of a room, then use a vent to go over and kill them bc they know where they're going to be

now we come back, we had two kills anyway, we're suspicious of the person(people) that were supposed to be in a room with the kill target, and all we've done is tell scum exactly where we'll be, how many tasks each of us has, and where we have to do them

like for one fucking second take a moment to assume that just bc we know "scum can kill in rooms alone with people" doesn't mean "and yep that's it that's the extent of the mechanic now have fun gamesolving"

This is legit. I had not thought this through that far.

imagine this: scum have an ability to move someone out of a room against their will

how would we ever complete our tasks if scum could move people out of their rooms?

Game balance would probably limit how often it could be done.

I signed up to play a Mafia game, not solve a logic puzzle. And in my experience people who want the town to focus on the logic puzzle instead of the Mafia game tend to be scum.

The rules for this game were posted in the signup thread

you knew this was going to be a mech heavy setup involving town planning of night actions.

I signed up because I was excited af to figure out ways to complete tasks while limiting our NK exposure.

I absolutely hate this line because it seems to assume that we are just going to ignore the tasks altogether and play hunt the bad guys

in that case we might as well all be in the cafeteria every night if we are going to just ignore the entire night action part of the game.

Different people play the game differently ^_^ I like the hunty aspect of the game. Mechanics are just an added bonus.

Alright that was a lot of pages and surprisingly little substance.

A few notes.

Flea asks if I was joking about Pooky Sus or not. I was not joking.

So in theory it seems all tasks are a post restriction of some sort, I'd expect them all to be "short" style tasks.

O2 and Reactor MUST BE FIXED or imposters win.
Comms would be a global post restriction maybe?
Lights might hide kills?

...

What good can

possibly

come from this line of discussion?

People were asking, and I know some people enjoy setup spec.

Oh well if they enjoy it then I guess that's okay no wait the opposite of that.

Drops this like it's a bad fart, and promptly leaves. No contribution, no commitment, just ε=(｡◕ฺˇд ˇ◕ฺ｡）

Why did I not follow up on a conversation about a topic not being a great thing to talk about? It is a mystery.

ε=(｡◕ฺˇд ˇ◕ฺ｡）

flea

, you are much more upfront with POV, kind of hard to navigate and get to the meat of your posting, and you take so much initiative here that I don't know how genuine that is.

Faster moving game, more players {](^_^)[} More for me to comment on, and less for me to death tunnel on here Also there's a LOT less emotional play going on lol.

DAMN this took a long time to write out today... Maybe I should do page by page in the future... hmm...

ISO Titus
ISO DBG
Work out recovery from outing my locations if no backup plan.

[Flea The Magician]

also i just want to say 936, that was so fucking wholesome and sweet ty

bell <3

ill give

flea

their due diligence soon, i think i should take time reading their replies in depth more

waiting for

murder

to get to that keyboard lul

I suggest a cup of tea and biscuits to aid you on your journey into chaos.
And a towel, don't forget your towel.

[Flea The Magician]

General thoughts:
- Plan for tonight should be to provide rooms where people should group, if they want to group. I want to group.
- I'm not about to throw someone out of the airlock if they don't claim, I don't think we have enough info to decide either way so people should just do what they want. I think this is better than random because some people want to group. I think scum will get an extra kill off tonight but what can you do.
- I recommend grouping up because my guess is that scum has some ability to combat this, but not enough of an ability that makes grouping up useless (e.g. a limited amount of lights sabotages that lets you kill even if there is a full room). We want scum to have to use these I think.
- No elim is probably right for today. We get a night phase to learn stuff and it balances out what I think is an inevitable (given some people don't want to group) extra kill tonight.
- Because it seems like no elim is the right option to me, I find it hard to do my normal strategy, which mostly involves throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. Which leads to my other strategy, which is basically passively observing.

The good news is that I thought large theme games were too much for me, but it turns out that death curse was just like, really a lot. I agree with whoever said this game was moving at a decent pace.

Spoiler: Reads (generally sorted townie to not so townie)

PookyTheMagicalBear

I think Pooky is true to town form. Based on 2170, I think Pooky is one of those players who doesn't try to perfectly match his town game as scum. I think Pooky is leading town in a good direction, which hopefully is not how I would feel if scum was doing it.

OutWorldER

I don't know what outworlder is like as scum, but he is more town in this game than either of the previous games I played with him, IMO. I actually wouldn't expect 597 or 610 from outworlder scum even though they are somewhat easy to fake, as I assume he'd be fairly new at scum and those posts are scary to make (easy to TMI). I also don't expect new scum to fight against town giving info to earn town cred.

xRECKONERx

Reck scum might be good enough to play the vocal contrarian townie character as scum, but if he is he is doing a good job of it. He hasn't TMIed at all from what I've seen. For example, "scum have an ability to move someone out of a room against their will" is probably not something in the game, so if Reck is scum he is doing a good job of faking mech thoughts from the perspective of someone who doesn't know the mech which is I think hard to do without slipping. Also scum usually TRs me? But maybe I have left myself a bit to open to attack this game.

alisae

Ali isn't dominating the conversation in the way I would expect from Ali scum, though I'm not sure where the SR on me is coming from.

Flea

Flea is doing Flea things, I don't know what scum Flea looks like but I expect I would be able to find scum Flea before I find Bell or Taly scum and I haven't found anything I dislike yet, so fae goes higher on the list.

Bell, Taly

You are both posting vaguely townie things but there is nothing there that I think is never scum from either of you.

Cake

I know I was memeing before about Cake and I totally misinterpreted him, but he was still kinda weirdly defensive when I was posting about him so he still goes down here. There was also this subtle thing where he didn't lead the mech discussion but quickly jumped on board which felt like he wasn't really having his own thoughts about it /shrug.

Blitzo

Blitzo enterance post pinged me, which I know sounds dumb. But "Is there anything in particular anyone would like me to look at?" just sounded fake to me I don't know. 959 feels fake to me too?? Like there is no substance in those reads or even the mech. And stuff like this "I don't understand what MC is doing this game. MC was are your reads?" just feels totally empty to me.

{thegoldenparadox, Haschel Cedricson, DrippingGoofBall, Battle Mage, gamma emerald, titus, Akarin}

These are all people who I have no real thoughts about as of this moment so I am going to go skim their isos now.

TGP had that thing about Blitzo that I thought was a town thing to say, because like how else do you even think of that? Otherwise I don't think there is much there either way right now.

HC could be scum I guess, but mostly I think I just disagree with them about game state. I think Pooky is town and I think taly is ?? and I think Titus is a weird vote.

DG is doing DG things but I don't feel as comfortable in my ability to sort DG doing DG things compared to Flea doing Flea things. I don't really get the strong read on BM.

BM has been suspiciously absent from mech talk?? That's all I've got though, his iso is pretty empty.

Gamma hasn't yelled at anyone yet so I'm not sure if he's town. 1044 kinda pings me??? Spooky

Titus I'm not sure about because I don't really know what I expect from Titus in this setup. I agree with whoever said that we can shelve Titus for now as it will get easier later.

Akarin I should probably have a read on, but I don't. She has posted enough so I don't really have an excuse. I liked 1053, that's probably what I would do if I was trying to convince people to group, which I still think is pro town.

Ew what am I some kind of wall poster now?

Welcome to the club ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Flea The Magician]

My main worry about the vent shovey thing is when do we find about about it? Because if its in the room phase and we start tasking not knowing we're in the wrong room, that's gunna be a butt.

[Flea The Magician]

Big claim some someone with an average of 7 or 8 words per post.

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[Flea The Magician]

lol i'll give you kudos...

...for the most bad-faith, scummy ISO-analysis I've ever seen. Like, taking every post I made and trying to construe it in a scummy way is not genuine solving. Poor effort.

VOTE: flea

o(^▽^)o DIVA FLEA ISO FUN TIME! o(^▽^)o

Spoiler: Our Jester

Alright. I wanna start off with an RQS this game. Questions are as follows:

1) what power role have you not been that you want to try out, and why? Don’t factor in your current role, answer this question assuming you are vanilla this game.
2) If you were scum, who would be your a) D1 miselim push, b) N1 kill, and c) partner you’d want to bus you and go to the end, given each person was the correct alignment for that specific action?
3) What is your skill with mechanic-heavy setups? If you’re not skilled at them, do you intend to get better with practice or rely on others?
4) What is your favorite candy?
5) What would you say is your biggest strength and biggest weakness as town/scum/in general?

1. I'd like to be cult leader in a game where my entire cult didn't bus me to death.
2.a. probably you b. probably Titus c. Pooky or DGB
3. Generally bad, but I played a similar game to this recently. I was so bad I somehow managed to die twice before anyone else had died. But it was so fun!!
4. Candy bad.
5. Biggest strength as town = pretty much never getting mis-elimmed. Biggest strength as scum = mostly winning because my bad reads are a benefit

HE DOESN'T LIKE CANDY?! LIKE WHAT?!
Also, check out number 5. Never getting mislim'd and having bad reads. hmmm...

what happens to tasks when ppl die though? do we have to do fewer tasks?

when people die their tasks get distributed we can figure out a good system for this later.

ah in that case, yeah i like the no-elim plan. I have fewer tasks than you I think.

Mech talk, and hinting at something? Maybe this is just out of context.

I have 1 I think. I go to a room, then I do my task.

Not quite as bad a fart as what HC dropped, but this still stinks to me ║ * ರ Ĺ̯ ರ * ║ also Spongebob doesn't approve.

VOTE: Murdercat

MY EYES! THEY BURRRRN! SOMEONE PUT SOME CLOTHES ON THIS VOTE! (ʘ ل͟├┬┴┬┴

VOTE: XreckonerX

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well outing the locations is good and bad
good because we can make a plan
bad because scum can mess with that plan presumably

maybe but i'd rather have the entire game leashed so people dont wander off and murder each other in the room they shouldn't be in

I'm with you bud!!

Adding nothing...

well outing the locations is good and bad
good because we can make a plan
bad because scum can mess with that plan presumably

Lol are you actually scum cake

you think outing everything now is good? I see too much risk

we've started now dude. I'm totally down with elimming in the pool of those who won't claim if we have such a thing.

THA'S A BIIIIIIIIG POOOOOLLLL. (⊃‿⊂)

tbh if Battle Mage kills me in electrical
I'm happy with that

don't worry, you can trust me

Nope.

VOTE: no elim

i'm on the board

No that's a plank. ლ(ಠ_ಠლ)

should we all claim task number? i see no reason not to

I have 2

I have one.
I plan on doing mine asap so I can pick up one of the other tasks and then do it.

I like your style Titus. I was planning on doing mine, and then kicking back on Night 2

I don't like this. Like I really don't like this. (๑•﹏•)

I feel pretty relaxed with Pooky in charge - he knows how to do this game.

Wait you relaxed with someone else in charge?

Completely! the last time we played a game similar to this I got singled out and killed by scum immediately. Pooky didn't realise I was dead and tried to rescue me....dying himself in the process.

He knows that people getting picked off sucks, and is coming up with a plan to avoid that. Total townvibes.

Or this... This is scum vibes to me. This is "I'mma coast and let other people do the hard work" and with the last post, doesn't sit well with me.

Battle Mage has 1 task so it should be fine.
I can also go w/ Battle Mage so you feel safer, I have a 2nd task but I don't mind it if it would make you feel safer

I'm not planning to go anywhere without 3/4 people minimum.

This is interesting...

i guess the alternative to all moving in a pack would be for people to pair up - easy way to identify scum.

And this is why. I'm getting a people pleaser vibe here.

every1 claim what rooms you need for your tasks

i will excel it and figure out optimal pathing

alisae will probly do it faster and better

electricity room?

wait you really only have 1 room to go to?

Same and it happens to be the same room.

So it looks like BM and I are sharing a room for the night.

goshdarn Titus, are you going to kill me?

But isn't Alisae there too?

this will be a strange mafia game where no scumhunting is required

*shudders*

Maybe this is just in the context I'm looking at where I'm getting the vibes of the scums but this REALLY isn't feeling right to me now.

I think allowing the opportunity for scum to get an extra kill is important
we also shouldn't be sending anyone that's too important if we do try to create opportunities for scum to kill. Town can benefit off of a townie that needs to be sorted dieing.

I'm not sure on this though.

if we're just going to do the tasks and win, does sorting even matter though?

Like we've said why we still need to sort people but he's hesitant to be sorted it seems?

I dunno, I feel like I'm in a rabbit hole at this point and everythings just going to go "I'M SCUM!" at me? (¤﹏¤)

it doesnt matter if someone needs to be in a room two nights in a row. the point of leashing the entire PL is that nobody can wander off and kill you when u r in that room alone on night 2

I meant in terms of how many nights it make take to complete. We can't just visit X number of rooms each night and cover each room on 1 night.

Maybe not enough people have combinations like mine for it to matter, but wanted to claim this before we get too far.

Also splitting into smaller groups where the towniest players are paired makes sense, but if scum have a regular NK they can potentially frame people.

ah i hadnt thought about the framing thing. do the kills take place at the same time though?

Honestly, have you given this game any thought? :/

Like I'm not okay with obvtown getting killed via the extra kill mechanic, so it would be someone that town would be okay with dieing.

pedit: I mean I think we can try to go for a task any% speedrun but I think if we get handed a free scum lynch we should take it?

agree if it's on a plate due to a cop investigation or something, but otherwise I'm not keen on us elimming through half-assed scumhunting when we are all handicapped with post restrictions and the like.

Half assed is better than none.

Wait, wait, wait.
Is there even any hunting in this game.

i think that's what we're trying to establish now mate. My guess is, maybe not.

uh.... you were pretty set on no scumhunting not so long ago?

suddenly I want to yeet Flea for making my page size double
and also for doing the RQS thats gross

not to mention calling me scum coz i claimed my room

"electrical?" seems questioning and not like a claim. I just get bad vibes from you... also wow I'm only on page 9?

UNVOTE:

I think I still want to wield the stick of elimming someone who refuses to claim.

We got more reasoning for the unvote than we have for both votes?

VOTE: titus

VOTE: Haschel

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├┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┤ . o O (Please someone let me know when it's safe to come out?
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Ya I want some Chaos
I trust you to create that environment

Is this free reign to just run around the ship like a lunatic? ( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉)

Also Flea while ur at it what do you think of Titus

Cautious at the moment, People are saying she's more vote and wagon driven, but she's not doing much in that way.

are we really moving away from the idea of a systematic and cohesive team approach, to a free-for-all?

Maybe. Why? What'cha thinkin ( ͝סּ ͜ʖ͡סּ)

i think that would be a stupid idea

... Why?

something feels off
what do you think of Titus and Haschel?

they both feel red to me

titus more so

concur

Why?

if i sleep now, hopefully this will all have blown over in the morning...

ₒ₍₊˒₃˓₎ₒ▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩⃛

you guys should definitely do all the posting done today you want to do

cuz tommorrow is going to be comically badly post restricted lolol

nobody fuck up their tasks pls

can we finish the massclaim and go to night then? seems like we're not achieving much else.

You haven't exactly contributed yourself.

you're planning to elim me today so does it matter?

I still hate this attitude...

no idea why, i'm obvtown here.

No... no you're not. Why do people think they're obvtown? Like fine you know your PM but to me you're closer to obvscum than obvtown, honestly.

you're planning to elim me today so does it matter?

It's only 2 days into deadline.

When did I ever say I wanted you to be the elim?

you're literally campaigning to get ppl to vote for me.

Maybe so there's pressure on you to actually contribute?

VOTE: No Elim

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VERDICT

Happy keeping my vote here for now.

I stream my thoughts as I read through. It's as simple as that. I've not tried to twist every post as scummy, far from it. but offered my thoughts on the matter and if people want to oppose it, they can. I'm an open book here (^_^)

If you decide to challenge my read on you in any way that isn't an OMGUS vote, you're welcome to start answering some of the points and things I questioned in there <3

The one thing you could have pulled in your favour, is that I didn't actually give a read, just that I was happy my vote being there and looking opportunistic.
The read at the end of that was SL btw, and is still where my read is.

[Flea The Magician]

i think we need to start eliming in the no room claim pool


we can probly hit bad guys

and if they're townies we were never going to win this game

VOTE: Reck

my tolerance for gamethrowing is gone

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if reck flips red here it proves our no-elim plan can probly win the game

And if he's green you think .. what?
Like I don't think 2 kills tonight is that bad considering I think we will get info from the kill and it is basically the same as miselim > normal kill.

Then we would've have won anyway according to pooks.

[Flea The Magician]

i think we need to start eliming in the no room claim pool


we can probly hit bad guys

and if they're townies we were never going to win this game

VOTE: Reck

my tolerance for gamethrowing is gone

<iNeedANewPopcorn.gif>

if reck flips red here it proves our no-elim plan can probly win the game

And if he's green you think .. what?
Like I don't think 2 kills tonight is that bad considering I think we will get info from the kill and it is basically the same as miselim > normal kill.

Then we would've have won anyway according to pooks.

[Flea The Magician]

lost anyway... why is my brain like this x.x

[Flea The Magician]

If you want to group, requote this list in a chain

[Flea The Magician]

Giant quote pyramids are ugly and stupid and I won't participate in them because of handwaving and grumpiness.

But I think my stance is clear.

I think they're cute (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ

[Flea The Magician]

I'm about to read up, but I feel like I need to say this.

I feel like people are using the concept of a no elimination being an option to avoid scumhunting. I have no idea if this is actually a thing thats happening, but if it is, I hate this. If you are one of these people and ur town, please stop. If we want to no elim, we will consider that option when we have 48-72 hours left.
This is a very important day phase because its the day phase where everyone will be able to communicate to the best of their ability w/o being post restricted. This means this is the best day phase to try to get the most done.

Thanks for coming to my ted talk
reading up now.

100% this. Don't you agree, battle mage? :3

[Flea The Magician]

malding

TO GOOGLE!

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: DippingGoofball

I want to start here. Undeveloped thoughts from this slot.

This is OMGUS.

Still more justification than most of Battle mages votes.

*not tunneling I swear - just kinda bored and scatterbrained lol*

[Flea The Magician]

As long as there's tea and coffee, I'm happy with that.

If there's a bar coffee machine, even better! haven't played with one of those in a year like but I still know my shiz ༼⌐■ل͜■༽

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah my townread on Ali rn is based on the fact there's been no AtE or weird aggression lol

[Flea The Magician]

murderkitties

, i like your 563 but i feel like your 365 went a bit hard onto a slot relatively early for the games pace

how has your

cakez

read progressed?

TAAAALLLLLYYYYYYYY!
1) How are you?
2) Who is your worst read at the moment?
3) Is there anything so far you disagree with?
4) Why are you upside down? ( ͜。 ͡ʖ ͜。)

1)

good, bout to get to college work, need to stop letting mafia distract haha

2)

no particular scumreads... need to reread

TGP

because they did not pass the vibe check.

alisae

passed the vibe check but not yet the deepwolf check. i think you are quite fluffy even with your wall, tbh - i want more concrete statements from you.

pooky

feels agenda-y but that doesnt ping me by itself.
i think the amount of times

reck

comes into this thread only to say

"i wont read and i denounce the threads mentality"

is genuine BUT is being used deflectively.
actually did not care for this readslist from

BM

i think it's most likely that Alisae is town and Titus is scum. Akarin town, Pooky town, Cakez town.

felt very early to make reads on these players, at least mostly town-ones.

id rather

BM

just explain these reads. i think

OWER

prodded them at some point but if they replied, the answer wasnt noticeable enough for me to see it.

(maybe OWER prodded murderkitties instead)

3)

disagreement is not the correct word... more cautiously inquisitive. this town did not have a very cohesive start with everything considered.

4)

why i am upside down you ask?
my nails are lavender D:< not as red as my role PM or as green as what id want to brag they be.

Like look at this post for example
So much words but I don't actually get much from it?

Got everything I wanted from it. ᕦ༼ ˵ ◯ ਊ ◯ ˵ ༽ᕤ

[Flea The Magician]

Ignoring the baiting from Flea - I have been pulling out some great reads so far imho.

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[Flea The Magician]

That said, it's probably wise for you to ignore me ^_^ Alisae can tell you when I'm like when I pick up on something <3

[Flea The Magician]

Suprised DGB let this one slide without comment tbh

Big claim some someone with an average of 7 or 8 words per post.

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[Flea The Magician]

Flea is doing a lot of that LAMISTy stuff but it's superficial - long ISO cases which don't strike a balanced objective line, are a scum move I've used many times in my youth.

This is where you and I differ, you read my ISO as a case and as an attack, not me running over my thoughts on you and adjusting or confirming my read.

It's my thoughts, not a case. If people agree with it, they agree with it. If people want to supply me with non-meta information or differing ways of reading a post, then I'll sit, consider and adjust.

I'm a brain spewer I just put out whatevers in my head as I'm reading something.

[Flea The Magician]

That said, it's probably wise for you to ignore me ^_^ Alisae can tell you when I'm like when I pick up on something <3

...I can see first hand what you're like when you pick up on

nothing

. I read your ISO analysis of me, and didn't even think it had enough merit to respond to. That's not a personal dig, but it didn't strike any sort of objective balance so either:

A. You're town blindly tunnelling me and confbiasing into oblivion
B. You're scum

one of the things i've learnt over my games this year, is if you're town, don't just tunnel people. It kills your credibility and people won't follow you.

I picked up on

something

. The ISO'ing was an attempt to learn what something was, if it was just a vibe or more than that. It's still a vibe, just a stronger vibe looking at it. the objective for was confirming my read, and making sure i'd not missed anything, ultimately I'm here to have fun too.

I probably am confbiased. Ultimately I wanted more from you which is why my vote was there. Now I'm getting more from you, I'm reevaluating as I go.

I have a habit of either being super scatter brained or hyper fixated, Odds are tomorrow I'll probably look at someone else and do some poking there, or keep poking you.

I don't want people to follow me either, I want people to build their own opinions and thoughts when voting, and not just sheep me.

[Flea The Magician]

If you were expecting me to be throwing out full blown cases this early in the game then holy testicle tuesday batman xD I'd be surprised if anyone does that this early

[Flea The Magician]

（＊〇□〇）……！

[Flea The Magician]

eh, wouldn't call that full blown. still impressive mind.

[Flea The Magician]

Flea is doing a lot of that LAMISTy stuff but it's superficial - long ISO cases which don't strike a balanced objective line, are a scum move I've used many times in my youth.

This is where you and I differ, you read my ISO as a case and as an attack, not me running over my thoughts on you and adjusting or confirming my read.

It's my thoughts, not a case. If people agree with it, they agree with it. If people want to supply me with non-meta information or differing ways of reading a post, then I'll sit, consider and adjust.

I'm a brain spewer I just put out whatevers in my head as I'm reading something.

I mean I don't think it's so much that "we differ", as you're wrong. There was no obvious attempt to "adjust" your read - you singled out a bunch of posts which were completely meaningless and objectively NAI, and tried to contrive to make them seem scummy to bolster your position. It was a case of "I've said BM is scum, now I have to prove it" rather than "I wonder if BM is town or scum".

I'm open to the idea that you're just town who got carried away, but I'll wait and see if you take a more objective line to appraising people going forward.

I love how you're telling me what I did <3
I love how you completely missing the face I'm a brainspewer.
I love how you're completely hooked on being defensive.
It's kinda cute (◍•ᴗ•◍)❤

[Flea The Magician]

i'm on board

VOTE: blitzo

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[Flea The Magician]

OK Page by page catchup....

Spoiler: Page 53

Flea, the more you suggest "I am a brainspewer, this is how I go about posting and thoughts" makes me think that this approach is intentional, and it stumps me when I'm trying to find where your head is out outside of quote-by-quote walls and 1v1s.

When I try and filter, I get SRd as my posts feel manufactured and I become limbait. I started just brainspewing and reads of me massively improved because I'm not hiding anything and I'm saying whats on my mind {](^_^)[} If you want to know something specific you're always welcome to ask me and you will receive an honest answer. If it's a read on a slot, I'll tell you what I'm thinking. If I'm not sure, I'll say so and go have a look at the ISO or add it to my TODO list when I'm not feeling cruddy, like I've done with BM and I'm sure I left a TODO in a post somewhere.

also

i think this is the first time

Battle Mage

does not sus me in a game LMAO

does scum-

BM

really give

Flea

the benefit of the doubt here? 1296

I don't think it's AI this early in the game. Later in the game I would consider TAI.
But this is just me.

Flea is doing a lot of that LAMISTy stuff but it's superficial - long ISO cases which don't strike a balanced objective line, are a scum move I've used many times in my youth.

This is where you and I differ, you read my ISO as a case and as an attack, not me running over my thoughts on you and adjusting or confirming my read.

It's my thoughts, not a case. If people agree with it, they agree with it. If people want to supply me with non-meta information or differing ways of reading a post, then I'll sit, consider and adjust.

I'm a brain spewer I just put out whatevers in my head as I'm reading something.

I mean I don't think it's so much that "we differ", as you're wrong. There was no obvious attempt to "adjust" your read - you singled out a bunch of posts which were completely meaningless and objectively NAI, and tried to contrive to make them seem scummy to bolster your position. It was a case of "I've said BM is scum, now I have to prove it" rather than "I wonder if BM is town or scum".

I'm open to the idea that you're just town who got carried away, but I'll wait and see if you take a more objective line to appraising people going forward.

I love how you're telling me what I did <3
I love how you completely missing the face I'm a brainspewer.
I love how you're completely hooked on being defensive.
It's kinda cute (◍•ᴗ•◍)❤

I'm trying to help you. You're just trying to patronise and belittle me.

I mean, earlier on you complained I ignored you. now you're complaining that I responded.

You literally told me what I was doing despite that I was the doing it. You got a bog standard response to how I treat people who are trying to tell me what I did was different to what I was actually doing. That is an attempt at perspective manipulation and control and is belittling as it's implying I don't know what I'm actually doing.

I never actually said you were scum.

I said I had a suspicion as something was off and I was going to ISO you to check. Then I did what I do, I go into the ISO and just write down whatever I'm thinking at the time. My conclusion was Null-SL, enough to keep my vote parked. Since then you've been amazingly over-defensive and have progressed to SL. If you read through it you'll see I even said I feel like I'm falling into a rabbit hole where I'm going to start reading everything as screaming "IM SCUM" which I wanted to try and avoid.

i'm on board

VOTE: blitzo

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What does this even mean

Running joke I have for myself about naked votes. (^ц^ ) Hiding behind a wall because I don't wanna see to nuddy.

i'm on board

VOTE: blitzo

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What does this even mean

she's saying it was a 'naked' vote. I can't explain the kisses though.

x_x is cross eyed, usually used for dead or people clamping their eyes shut. And pronouns please

let's just work outside of our respective townpools then. We aren't too far off each other tbh.

Where do we agree and where do we disagree?

Flea/Haschel

are probably my most loose townreads at the moment because I don't like the angle

Flea

pushes here and

Haschel

is quite elusive and I feel that's plausible for scum more often than town in games of this velocity.

I think

DGB/Reck

are very good slots to look at WITH them because

DGB

feels like a parrot to

Flea

without the wallposting and

Reck

for reasons

Murder

mentioned in 1309

Gunna need more than a 7 words per post average to be my parrot ⋋〳 ･ ਊ ･ 〵⋌

Spoiler: Page 54

Meta. You townread Flea and I off of it in one of your early spews.

Compare this with Death curse.

You mean the game I lurked like hell and didn't wake up until I was on the chopping block?
That was the game where I decided to drop the filter and just think "stuff it lets go".
Also Titus isn't attempting to pocket me this time ★~(◡‿⊙✿)

@Taky My votes are to make the game move forward, not to barter. To create alignment indicative content. Pressure people, force them to take stances, inspire them to participate. Yeet scum if I do it right.

Ooooo you broke your max word count! Still average word count of like 7 or 8 though. You're not really moving the game or interacting with it beyond the occasional poke (●´ω｀●)ゞ

Spoiler: Page 55 - It grew a page while I was reading!

BM has posted a lot. I think he's handling the pressure well if scum and seems fairly confident he's town this game.

Hard disagree. They've been way over defensive with me.

Much town vibe from Talys #1351.

Can someone explain to me why TGP is town?
Akarin's read is probably the third or fourth person that has stated such in yet I see no reasons for any of them.
Why is it so hard to get people to explain things this game?

I'd like

TGP

be discussed more. I don't have a good grasp on them and I didn't care much for their posts as I recall my last impression of them.

Added to my TODO. Haven't really made an impression on me so I'll add them to my list.

Spewing: Basically saying whatever comes to mind about a player to demonstrate some level of analysis of their play and so that we can see if you're trying to determine other people's alignments or whether you already know who the scum/town are cause you're scum.

Of course, do this too much like I apparently do and there's no objective balance and it's bad, superficial and people don't like it but they also don't like when you don't spew ԅ༼ * ◕ ∧ ◕ * ༽ﾉ

going to sleep. night

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEANS! Gnight <3

boop

ヘ（。□°）ヘ

Spoiler: Page 56

i caught up and I have nothing to say

Ali sus. （○□○）

i caught up and I have nothing to say

What is the point of this post

it gives me a reason to ghost out of the thread after appearing
duh

But you could have just not posted anything and nobody would have said anything
What is with this game and pointless posts

so I could have just posted bruh
and then left

Plus there's the 24 hour no prod dodging rule. Ali's literally just sayin e's got nothing else to add.

Spoiler: Page 57

It is hard to scum hunt without applying pressure. It's hard to apply pressure without real votes and the threat of being yeeted out the air lock.

I dunno, I've had a good reaction from someone so far (*>艸<)

1406 and 1407 on point for DGB, bang on average word count (ꐦ ´͈ ᗨ `͈ )

Oooooo wonder if I should try and bait a longer post out of it...

OK brain go bye bye as pain go GOOOD MORRRRNING FLEA! this is gunna get funky because I'm kinda struggling to read posts.

Alright, it seems like we finally have a consensus to be dumb. I'm not going to stop the dumbness so I might as well make the best of it.

VOTE: Battle Mage

Must.... resist....

Welcome to town, you must be new

(◍˃̶ᗜ˂̶◍)ﾉ”

DBG maintains it's post count average...

ISO Titus
ISO DBG
Work out recovery from outing my locations if no backup plan.
ISO TGP

[Flea The Magician]

♪└(￣◇￣)┐♪ Wind Waltz / Confuse ♪└(￣◇￣)┐♪

Spoiler: Where in the world is Titus?

*sees the RQS*

*puts a down payment on a condo in dead chat*

Hah! It ain't

that

bad. ◕‿↼

should we all claim task number? i see no reason not to

I have 2

I have one.
I plan on doing mine asap so I can pick up one of the other tasks and then do it.

I like this, nice and open and clear in intent.

every1 claim what rooms you need for your tasks

i will excel it and figure out optimal pathing

alisae will probly do it faster and better

electricity room?

wait you really only have 1 room to go to?

Same and it happens to be the same room.

So it looks like BM and I are sharing a room for the night.

goshdarn Titus, are you going to kill me?

Nope but given tasks can repeat, we may have the same task (if you're town). If not, you can't use your bonus kill on me. So I'm uneasily ok with staying with you.

We may have the same task if you're town... Scum might just mimic you and pretend to have the same task.
Then theres the "Well you can't bonus kill me, but I guess I'm ok with this..." which is a little odd? TMI or paranoid... not sure.

I wanna not do the RQS because I'm feeling grumpy and was gonna complain about it, but I like surveys

1)PR I want: Loyal Vig
2a)Scum miselim: Gamma
2b)Scum NK: Titus
2c)Scum buddy to be bussed by:

Taly

3)Mech-skill: decent but no one will listen to me
4)Candy: Maple candy, the kind that's just maple sugar that dissolves in your mouth, not the hard or artificial flavored stuff.
5a)Biggest strength: Townreading miselim-bait after initially scumreading them.
5b)Biggest Weakness: I'm too towny and care too much.

I wanna do some RQS as well.

Green?

My real estate agent called. They said even less of a down payment is needed for my condo.

Oooooo you getting a good deal? [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅]

I'm going to electrical. I'm doing my task.

Either a) scum kill me and leave less for y'all to do

Or b) scum kill elsewhere and I can get those tasks.

Agreeing to anything else seems stupid.

Cool ur with me

Ok great. Then Battle Mage can come too. I won't feel so awkward having someone I know there with me.

This makes the previous TMI or Paranoia look like TMI...
Bearing in mind I'm looking at this out of context of the rest of the thread.
Titus and BM initially, TMIs that BM can't use their bonus nightkill. Now Alisae is in Titus is more confident...

what... maybe I'm reading too much into this... My brain is doing the fuzzy wuzzies.

I'm going to electrical. I'm doing my task.

Either a) scum kill me and leave less for y'all to do

Or b) scum kill elsewhere and I can get those tasks.

Agreeing to anything else seems stupid.

Cool ur with me

Ok great. Then Battle Mage can come too. I won't feel so awkward having someone I know there with me.

pfft, now i dont wanna come

You have a job to do.

BM potentially has 2 tasks, why suddenly so keen to keep them around? This is bad vibes...

My brain hurts. I have zero idea on how to approach this day play without wagons. My data is my crutch.

I kinda like Taly though.

So make one.

If we go the no elimination route, BM, Gamma and I should take the task of whomever dies. We can split up the tasks so that we can complete them tomorrow night.

Curious why these 2.

If I get mislimmed day one, there's little I can do. I have accepted that with this game state. I have an easy task if I slowly post day 2.

That being said, I do feel my wagon is scum driven though. Consensus is gathering around no elimination but yet people vote me for actually voting for it.

Here are my actual weak reads though.

HC is scum riding off town Reck's coattails to disrupt the game.

BM is scum for waiting on a consensus before voting me. His position on me is just hot garbage in his ISO. He appeared fine when it was just me and him going to electrical but sad when Ali was added to the mix. That would have three in electrical. Removing me makes two in electrical.

Taly and Flea are town because of their metas.

Pooky and Alisae are town.

Cakez is town.

WRONG! There's a LOT you can do, you know, like sharing information and reads, giving town information to work with and stuff.
HC read seems legit, BM read is suspicious at this point.

Reading me as town because of my meta....

Lets go further into this. I'm not a huge fan of meta because it's adaptable and exploitable.
I have 2 completed games on site as of this point I believe, 3 at most.
First game is my newbie game where I'm all over the damn place
Second game is Death Curse. I was a heavy lurker, when I did post it wasn't much until I came under threat and it was again, all over the place. This is also where I decided to change up my play style.
Third game was The Council, School Edition. I posted LOTS and streamed my thoughts fairly well and stubbornly latched on to Ali/Taly's hydra, ultimately getting NK'd night 1.

The Council is the closest to my play here, but still different enough to not be considered my play here.
Could you justify your meta read on me?

Personally I feel OER or Bell are the more likely scums there, not BM

I find Bell's take on me interesting. It's more NAI but suggests a genuine fear of me. If he's town, he knows I can pull some pretty outrageous shit and would fear me. If he's scum, he knows he needs to shade me out of the gate due to my late game prowess if given space.

Starting a train on me serves both purposes.

I don't really have an alignment read on Bell for that reason.

Self meta'ing to read another player is genuinely interesting...

I'm still in vehement disagreement of No Elim being good here, especially considering recent events.

At the very least, I'd like to flip somebody with hard stances on it, flip Me/Reck or Pooky/Ali. Then use the alignment to determine who's right.

This thinking is a fallacy. It supposes all town think correctly and all scum push incorrectly. It also supposes one correct path. The correct path is to force scum into claiming tasks or get eliminated. This puts us closer towards winning regardless of who is right. Right now, there are no tasks to claim.

This is also interesting, and I'm curious how this would play out.
Given Titus is keen on BM scum I would think she'd push here. Self claimed to be dependant on data she's still on no lim instead of pushing for data.

EUUUUUUGH I did not want to come into this and get a scum read. I was coming in here hoping for a townlean...

The HC read seems strong for what evidence is presented, but still nolim?
Like this is WEIRD to me.

Everyone agrees this is bad though right? We need to at least let the people who want to group, group.

If it's like 5 people trying to group it's not much different than random is the point.

And no, I'm not sure everyone agrees this is bad. A lot of people keep saying things that make me think they

don't

actually agree this is bad.

Random means we don't accomplish tasks.

I'm not doing random. Period.

I really want to put a message here in Braille as a comment on random period, but I think it would count as encrypted message, even if I put the original text in because it probably couldn't be verified.

SIGH

I wasn't at any point suggesting going to random rooms.

The assumption of random is that everyone just doing one of their tasks amounts to random rooms, assuming roughly equal distribution of tasks among the rooms.

Except it doesn't. For instance, Alisae has two tasks. One takes her to electrical the other to another room. By actively selecting electrical, we force a room of three (assuming BM lives).

That's a strong reason for BM to live. He has to try and complete his one task and can have another passed off to him from the dead corpse. It's a win-win situation regardless of BM's alignment.

This feels dismissive and stubborn. "I AM RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG". I agree with Akarins #1066. The clarification didn't really leave room for misinterpretation here. Like it flagged me a bit at the time but I was a little bit focused on BM at the time.

It's a win-win situation regardless of BM's alignment.

Not if he's scum????

It is.

We force him to take a task. It auto completes. If he refuses, we kill him.

The task lets us also control what room he goes to. So he's a liability to scum.

This seems legit logic though.

So sad that Taly rolled scum.

Why did she roll scum?

So sad that Taly rolled scum.

Why did she roll scum?

I believe the roles are srandomly distributed. Luck of the draw.

Why do you think she rolled scum?

*exasperated tone*

And actually pushing something semi-decent. This seems kinda fake reaction though maybe, given how much shes been on BM's butt without the exasperation.

Can we move on to no elimination and compliance? I am bored and this feels like an RVS that will last forever.

This pinged me a bit. Titus isn't daft, she knows this is the best chance we've got to communicate effectively and seems to be wanting to cut it short. And despite the strong read on BM still wants to nolim...
We're also WAAAAY out of RVS so this seem really dismissive of everything up to this point...

Can we move on to no elimination and compliance? I am bored and this feels like an RVS that will last forever.

This is an attitude I see both you and BM spouting and it's just like:

People have solid reads, wagons are being started, people are pushing.

Were also only 3 days into deadline.

How the fuck does this possibly feel like RVS? Why are you so quick to end the day; even if your going with Pooky's plan, there's still a lack of claims so ending the day early with a No Elim vote would be awful?

No one can die. No one should die. Therefore, these votes are meaningless.

We just have me take a task and force BM to take a task after ensuring no one dies. Provided I don't fuck up tomorrow, it leaves us in a great position.

That's the proper play IMO. I have said it a million times.

No one can or should die.
Why?
Going for task win exclusively is BAD as we don't know enough about the setup to know that's a fully achievable wincon. Think about it, assuming some poor soul has 2 long tasks, thats 4 days to victory.
Imposters can kill between 4 and 8. If it's 8 then there's 9 players left.
That's TOO EASY for town to win. There's got to be something here to screw with us. You're not daft. You would think of this.

I can't shift this bad juju feeling (⌯˃̶᷄ ﹏ ˂̶᷄⌯)

Yeah but if we can't convince at least a majority of the town then it doesn't amount to anything.

I think most of the town is on board. We're just dealing with a vocal minority, thanks to Reck. I think even those voting are on board with the grouping plan.

My action is already decided. Aside from watching, I don't see anything protown to do.

There's ALWAYS something protown to do. ALWAYS.

VOTE: DippingGoofball

I want to start here. Undeveloped thoughts from this slot.

This is OMGUS.

This is something to note for later based on flips I think. This might be me being newbish though.

I want Titus to explain her meta takes and evaluate their strength openly. I think her frustration to DGB is sincere and I want to lean in on the way she approaches this plist read wise.

What in particular?

I'm loving Taly, he's not disappointing my expectations at all.
This question asks for a few things but Titus feels evasive?
To me this reads as:
- Tell me your strengths.
- Explain your Meta reads.

VOTE: DippingGoofball

I want to start here. Undeveloped thoughts from this slot.

This is OMGUS.

Still more justification than most of Battle mages votes.

*not tunneling I swear - just kinda bored and scatterbrained lol*

No. Battle Mage is pretty transparently scum.

But no vote? When is a scum vote ever a bad vote?
When they're buddies?
I... I don't know at this point.

I'm definitely suspicious of this though, having had it pointed out Titus tried pocketing me by being mega agreeable with me in Death Curse (Seeing as the read on me is meta based, I'll return the favour).

Meta. You townread Flea and I off of it in one of your early spews.

Compare this with Death curse.

I responded to this in my bumper catch up, and further up this post - but it's here again in case you missed it.

You mean the game I lurked like hell and didn't wake up until I was on the chopping block?
That was the game where I decided to drop the filter and just think "stuff it lets go".
Also Titus isn't attempting to pocket me this time ★~(◡‿⊙✿)

Alright, it seems like we finally have a consensus to be dumb. I'm not going to stop the dumbness so I might as well make the best of it.

VOTE: Battle Mage

This happened during my catchup, I don't feel the mood shifted enough to warrant this and it confused me a bit at the time.

V E R D I C T

VOTE: Titus
I can't shift the bad feeling

[Flea The Magician]

Work out recovery from outing my locations if no backup plan.

????????

⌒°(❛ᴗ❛)°⌒

ISO Titus

ISO DBG
Work out recovery from outing my locations if no backup plan.
ISO TGP

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Flea

ooooooo why? (*^▽^*)

[Flea The Magician]

Same, I went into ISO expecting to come out with a TL to TR

[Flea The Magician]

but ya uh
kinda don't like flea's vote history
seems like opportunism to me.

Fair. ✧♡(◕‿◕✿)

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: titus

the reck endorsement all i needed

can't wait for that townflip and also full mech reveal postgame so you can eat your words and worship me like the idiot savant i am

I don't have a worship kaomoji... I am disappoint.

[Flea The Magician]

Flea, what was your gut feeling on Titus before you reread her ISO and made your big wall?

Town Leaning.
I went in wanting to confirm my read and try and see what others were seeing that made her suspicious.

[Flea The Magician]

people aren't liking my votes....

that mean if I vote no lim people will not vote there? I feel that no lim is not an option with this many possibly suspects.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Flea

Your words don't match your spew

If you say so. Pre iso I was wanting to confirm a town lean/read as I was getting suspicious. post iso suspicions confirmed, and honestly I didn't get the result I wanted from it.

[Flea The Magician]

I think I might've gone super paranoia mode this game

(´･(´･(´･(´･(´･(´･д･`) ･`)･`)･`)･`)･`)

I should try reading someone I fully townread. I think Taly's my strongest town read rn... I'll shove him to the top of the todo and use that as a measuring stick.

UNVOTE: Titus for now while I reassess my mental state and my paranoia levels {]( ^_^;)[}
# Among Us

!!ISO Taly

ISO Titus

ISO DBG
Work out recovery from outing my locations if no backup plan.
ISO TGP

[Flea The Magician]

Ooops, left my markdown note in there lol

[Flea The Magician]

Fair warning to all, I am not well.
Meds are wearing off and I'm having a fibro flare thing where everything freaking hurts like hell and feels like its burning. Going to do my usual thing and I have my TODO list to work though, but it's going to be lacking my usual shenanigans.

[Flea The Magician]

OK....

DGB still looks sus af. average word count still at 7, and this is before tasks...

TGPs case... I'm aware TGP likes reading into peoples opening posts and getting a read to go on from the start.
Mechanical discussion is pointless to some people. I personally am not a fan and like to get into the meat of a game. While I will contribute what I suspect and think, some people take that to an extreme. There is quite a few no/low-content posts in this game, and I'll happily admit a few of them are mine. Blitzo isn't the only one who seems dismissive of what's happening up to now.

Kinda feel TGPs read of 895 isn't right. Blitzo doesn't seem to contradicting himself here, he's acknowledging nolims are often bad they may be a use to them here? Also I would suspect the BM read comes from meta. Definity doing little towards solving here. Newbscum behavior is to OMGUS apparently... well nuts that's a lot of the players so far lol. It does feel fence sitty but is also wanting for more interactions before making judgement, which personally I'd expect a vote here to try and stir up interactions.

Last point is null..

Moving on.

Titus sheep and suddenly happy to be mislim? wut. Seems weird.
Alisae being emself...

Much hugs/fistbumps Taly, It's not just in MURICA where GPs are useless -.-; Mines always surprised when an old symptom of mine comes up despite having mentioned it many many times before and having it dismissed. <3

Im pretty sure that the gather up and stay together plan is out the window and we're just heading wherever the hell we like. I guess this crosses a line off my todo.

Speaking of, Cakez. My locations are out there, people know where I'm going to be. With the plan not going through now if no other crew are with me, but an imposter tries their luck, I'm doomed. I wouldn't call the case "Hella good" either.

Blitzo's response is good, Alisae's shade is amazing. Good luc on my post restrictions not being obvious.

Yup, it's genuinely awful. It also comes with brainfog -.-; thats why this post has taken so long.

!!ISO Taly

ISO Titus

ISO DBG

Work out recovery from outing my locations if no backup plan.

ISO TGP

[Flea The Magician]

i'm a good faith guy - i'll talk to you as if you're town, and make my own judgement. I don't have a strong view on you, I just saw a wagon with townie-looking ppl on it and thought I'd get in the mix.

Sorry and

I'm

the opportunistic one?

Paranoia and pain or not...
VOTE: BattleMage

That bad juju just ain't leaving.

At this this vote has a robe on it...

[Flea The Magician]

with the naked jokes or me trying to drive out evil?

[Flea The Magician]

Flea why are you not voting MC.

BM is transparently busing MCat but he can go out the airlock next.

MC hasn't pinged me. The post you've linked seems more frustrated than anything to me about being in the dark. I'll go have a quick read through, but given I still need to reset my scumometre and I'm still hurting (though not as bad as earlier) I ain't promising much

[Flea The Magician]

ok so linking backwards and backwards...
#1553 is outworld complaining legitimately about game-state. People to look at are:
- The ones that were pushing the agenda and shaping the narrative (IIRC, Pooky, Alisae, Reck, HC - reck and HC shaping the counter narrative)
- Slots that are low-activity, flip floppy or keeping the game stagnant. Low activity is easily checked with the activity overview, HC, Blitzo, and TGP are the bottom 3 with <50 posts each. Also I'm glad I'm happy with my Alisae read rn because 203 posts to iso, hell naw.

Murder is said to be one of the ones keeping the game stagnant and apparently being happy to do so in #1563(OWER) which is then pointing to #1180...

yes I know I'm IIoA'ing at the moment, I'm writing what I'm thinking as I go and I like to show where I'm thinking what.

MC's been pretty heavy on the mass claiming of rooms thing. MC not "knowing enough" about the setup to force claims, Mc knows more than he's letting on? Like I know nothing beyond whats in the first post and that we've got 1, 2 or 3 tasks each.

Akarin goes on the attack, calling MC out for what OWER's started the wagon on.

pooks is pookytheangereybear. I think i've got a Kaomoji for that... do I have the spoons to go find it... yes I do. ʕ ᵒ̌ ‸ ᵒ̌ ʔ

OWER I'm curious in your scumteam atm? That I can see you seem to be suspect of Titus, BM and MC, correct?

Going to quickly skim over the iso, no thought-streaming this time, sorry. And I'm specifically looking for supporting and opposing thing. Subject to my paranoia and current twisted perceptions due to painfog and burning sensations, and sleepiness.
#48 - We shouldn't assume we can no-lim to alt wincon victory, but we should anyway?
#86 - despite claiming in #53, suddenly worried about giving out TMI? This post seems weirdly out of place too and has odd tone.
#112 - Votes Cakez because cakey called out MC for thinking outing everything is good.
#310 - MC can't restrict his post count, and is going to fail one of his tasks... weird for someone worried about TMI'ing
#338 - Oh no he's joking... but still drops information.

Like I'm getting a sense here that MC's posts are weirdly out of place.

#444 - in what realm is a wagon a bad thing to have rolling? Weight or not, 1 vote is still 1 vote and it's still someone saying "I firmly believe that you are a baddie". Information is generated from that.
#539 - reversal of #86 possibly
#607 - Buddying reck?
#716 - From what I know, rule of 3 would prove you scum more than town, surely?
#733 - I can see the stagnation here. "Oh yeah claim if you want, don't if you don't. But some should and some shouldn't. We can't force it but we shouldn't know everything but the more we know the better" is my translation.
#908 - Same as Titus, you're not daft enough to think this can be won exclusively on tasks. I get wanting to explore the mechanic and I can't wait to see peoples restrictions. But I'm sure you know better.
#952 - Another one still in RVS?
#964 - Boris Johnson. If you know you know. "Go out, but don't go out. Go to work, but don't go to work. Use public transport, but go to work, but social distance. Don't use public transport if possible."
#1043 - TMI? Not sure if MC is familiar with Among Us at all though.
#1055 - I can understand why people would misunderstand this, but reading the post n question (#1053 it's clear that Akarin is speculating about setup and not pushing anything.
#1102 - No SRs, a few TRs. No mention of leans, maybe efforts later.

There's a lot of shitposts at this point. playful maybe? I know I fluffpost a lot but there is content in there if you get past it.

#1131 - reads promised.
#1135 - reads delivery in descending order. Pooks, OWER, Reck, Alisae, Flea, Bell. Taly, Cakez, Blitzo. Nulls are tgp, hc, dgb, bm, gamme, titus and akarin. Admits he should have a readon on some of these but doesn't for whatever reason.
#1173 - posts like this always seem LAMIST to me.



I'm about to pass out so can't do more, will pick it up again later.

[Flea The Magician]

I gotta stop using notes PTs and just use a damn notepad. Bear with while I fix it. I'm still not 100% but at elast the burning sensation has stopped

[Flea The Magician]

Whoo regex for quick fixes. and ngl regex makes one of my tasks sooooo much easier, provided I account for tags anyway.

ok so linking backwards and backwards...
#1553 is outworld complaining legitimately about game-state. People to look at are:
- The ones that were pushing the agenda and shaping the narrative (IIRC, Pooky, Alisae, Reck, HC - reck and HC shaping the counter narrative)
- Slots that are low-activity, flip floppy or keeping the game stagnant. Low activity is easily checked with the activity overview, HC, Blitzo, and TGP are the bottom 3 with <50 posts each. Also I'm glad I'm happy with my Alisae read rn because 203 posts to iso, hell naw.

Murder is said to be one of the ones keeping the game stagnant and apparently being happy to do so in #1563(OWER) which is then pointing to #1180...

yes I know I'm IIoA'ing at the moment, I'm writing what I'm thinking as I go and I like to show where I'm thinking what.

MC's been pretty heavy on the mass claiming of rooms thing. MC not "knowing enough" about the setup to force claims, Mc knows more than he's letting on? Like I know nothing beyond whats in the first post and that we've got 1, 2 or 3 tasks each.

Akarin goes on the attack, calling MC out for what OWER's started the wagon on.

pooks is pookytheangereybear. I think i've got a Kaomoji for that... do I have the spoons to go find it... yes I do. ʕ ᵒ̌ ‸ ᵒ̌ ʔ

OWER I'm curious in your scumteam atm? That I can see you seem to be suspect of Titus, BM and MC, correct?

Going to quickly skim over the iso, no thought-streaming this time, sorry. And I'm specifically looking for supporting and opposing thing. Subject to my paranoia and current twisted perceptions due to painfog and burning sensations, and sleepiness.
#48 - We shouldn't assume we can no-lim to alt wincon victory, but we should anyway?
#86 - despite claiming in #53, suddenly worried about giving out TMI? This post seems weirdly out of place too and has odd tone.
#112 - Votes Cakez because cakey called out MC for thinking outing everything is good.
#310 - MC can't restrict his post count, and is going to fail one of his tasks... weird for someone worried about TMI'ing
#338 - Oh no he's joking... but still drops information.

Like I'm getting a sense here that MC's posts are weirdly out of place.

#444 - in what realm is a wagon a bad thing to have rolling? Weight or not, 1 vote is still 1 vote and it's still someone saying "I firmly believe that you are a baddie". Information is generated from that.
#539 - reversal of #86 possibly
#607 - Buddying reck?
#716 - From what I know, rule of 3 would prove you scum more than town, surely?
#733 - I can see the stagnation here. "Oh yeah claim if you want, don't if you don't. But some should and some shouldn't. We can't force it but we shouldn't know everything but the more we know the better" is my translation.
#908 - Same as Titus, you're not daft enough to think this can be won exclusively on tasks. I get wanting to explore the mechanic and I can't wait to see peoples restrictions. But I'm sure you know better.
#952 - Another one still in RVS?
#964 - Boris Johnson. If you know you know. "Go out, but don't go out. Go to work, but don't go to work. Use public transport, but go to work, but social distance. Don't use public transport if possible."
#1043 - TMI? Not sure if MC is familiar with Among Us at all though.
#1055 - I can understand why people would misunderstand this, but reading the post n question (#1053 it's clear that Akarin is speculating about setup and not pushing anything.
#1102 - No SRs, a few TRs. No mention of leans, maybe efforts later.

There's a lot of shitposts at this point. playful maybe? I know I fluffpost a lot but there is content in there if you get past it.

#1131 - reads promised.
#1135 - reads delivery in descending order. Pooks, OWER, Reck, Alisae, Flea, Bell. Taly, Cakez, Blitzo. Nulls are tgp, hc, dgb, bm, gamme, titus and akarin. Admits he should have a readon on some of these but doesn't for whatever reason.
#1173 - posts like this always seem LAMIST to me.



I'm about to pass out so can't do more, will pick it up again later.

[Flea The Magician]

I'll wait for MCs response, I'm more convinced on Titus/BM currently.

[Flea The Magician]

Flea why are you not voting MC.

BM is transparently busing MCat but he can go out the airlock next.

dude, we're both town here, let's keep it chill

Who is "both", exactly?

[Flea The Magician]

I could be talked into killing flea today as well tbh

For the 2nd or 3rd time on site, I'm fine with being yeeted, as long as it's towards the sun Ｏ(≧∇≦)Ｏ

Because then I become part of a huge nuclear fart and can become a part of everyone's daily existence as they fruitlessly fight the entropy and chaos of the universe as I live as part of comparatively infinite chain of reactions, ultimately resulting in a massive expansion of energy that will consume the Earth and all life that remains upon it. As a result I will become a problem for everyone for over 5 billion years. bwahahahahah

[Flea The Magician]

Why people enable this behavior from me in space and sun related things is beyond me.

[Flea The Magician]

While I see no other

Flea

game where they spew at this volume

If you're looking for ....

*shudders*

Meta with regards to this, I have none.
All I can offer is progressive increase in my spew levels as my time here has gone on.


Looking at my list last night, and having quickly gone back to the posts... my mind and gut are fighting. :: ˓(ᑊᘩᑊ⁎) ::

[Flea The Magician]

Heres my thinking:

MC in the list I've made seems very much the fence at this point, never mind being on it. But that list was things for and against and some random thoughts of mine thrown in.

MC has been consistent in this though, there's not been a people pleaser feel but a consistent "we will win but we need to work for it, this is like herding cats" vibe.



My gut says MC town. My brain is saying "nope, MC bad" and I'm torn.

[Flea The Magician]

that you can't work out what I'm thinking from my thought stream ISO walls means my brain is as chaotic and cruddy as ever.

Win?

[Flea The Magician]

Flea - Flea's wall on me is like, pretty fake? A lot of quoting dumb jokes and trying to read into them and not quoting things that I think are actually relevant. It also feels like fae went through my iso looking for things to shade me on and I think fae did the same thing to Titus. It reads like setup for a future vote if my wagon becomes real. Like how does my entire iso have nothing that is indicative of town me?

I was pretty transparent in that I was skimming your ISO to find stuff against you in support of the wagon, or things that could be viable to use against the wagon. I have a town lean on you as your interactions seem genuine to me. I have no intention to join the wagon because despite that there may well be a point to the wagon, I feel that my gut and ongoing read is strong enough to say you're town. I've said it twice. If I'm on your wagon later its because it's either that or no lim, and I believe that a lim is always the way to go, we're still playing mafia here.

I can add you to my TODO list for a proper evaluation?

My Titus eval was my genuine thoughts

[Flea The Magician]

My gut says MC town. My brain is saying "nope, MC bad" and I'm torn.

I feel like this contradicts with what you are saying here, no?

It what I was thinking after the ISO. My gut outweighs my brain when I'm considering my reads, and taking in my ongoing read I think you are town. I biased myself with that ISO and it was a bad idea, I thought it was good at the time but painbrain be funky.

I'm still kinda torn on my overall read considering this, but honestly I have no intention of joining your wagon. I happy with you being townlean at the moment but you're definitely one to keep an eye on.

[Flea The Magician]

I still feel MC is the best elim here, not just from a probability of hitting scum standpoint but also from an associative solving standpoint.

I feel like a good case for Flea scum can be made regardless of MC's alignment due to how fence-sitty fae've been on the wagon. But I also have an aching feeling scum is setting them up to be lim-bait.

Eh, nowt new there. If you're going for it, go for it.

[Flea The Magician]

I still feel MC is the best elim here, not just from a probability of hitting scum standpoint but also from an associative solving standpoint.

I feel like a good case for Flea scum can be made regardless of MC's alignment due to how fence-sitty fae've been on the wagon. But I also have an aching feeling scum is setting them up to be lim-bait.

Eh, nowt new there. If you're going for it, go for it.

you english?

Aye, you?

[Flea The Magician]

Gamma, for goodness sake, can you please leave me alone for once? I just want to enjoy a game of mafia - it's clearly best we don't engage unless it actually relates to the game.

Did I miss a proposal or something?

[Flea The Magician]

I don't think a task win is going to be possible with no elim, but if people are set on it then I'll follow the crowd.

Mostly because I won't get a choice as rule 10 will kick in ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Flea The Magician]

like 1 no elim probably won't affect much but i still feel elim is the best option as you know, it is mafia.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Battle Mage

Call me opportunistic, I think pressures good and I trust Gamma to be doing a good thing here.

If ya'll don't like my vote, go read his ISO and make your minds up yourselves. I ain't doing it again because too much nekkid.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Battle Mage

Call me opportunistic, I think pressures good and I trust Gamma to be doing a good thing here.

If ya'll don't like my vote, go read his ISO and make your minds up yourselves. I ain't doing it again because too much nekkid.

This vote on the other hand is definitely scummy opportunism

Why does it feel like you're constantly trying to shade me?
Do you need a hug or something? ⊂(◉‿◉)つ

[Flea The Magician]

Because I'm paranoid as fuck apparently and still have you questioning my TODO in my head. rip brain. (╭╮)

[Flea The Magician]

awww that one doesn't show.
(

X

╭╮

X

)

[Flea The Magician]

Ok I ran out of steam doing the Taly ISO.

There is a slight recalibration needed of my scumdar, nothing major though so I'm confident in my reads up to now.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Battle Mage

Call me opportunistic, I think pressures good and I trust Gamma to be doing a good thing here.

If ya'll don't like my vote, go read his ISO and make your minds up yourselves. I ain't doing it again because too much nekkid.

This vote on the other hand is definitely scummy opportunism

Why does it feel like you're constantly trying to shade me?
Do you need a hug or something? ⊂(◉‿◉)つ

Where else have i shaded you besides your weird to-do list?

You haven't, my brains being weird ⊙▽⊙

[Flea The Magician]

Seeing as ya'll don't like my catchup brainspew quote walls...

I'm just doing brainspew walls :3

#1781 - Why?

#1782 - Good question

#1783 - Good response.

#1786 - SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE! [Admit it, you read it in the voice] (✿◠‿◠)

#1791 - You're meant to try and do it, and not just have it happen. V●ᴥ●V

#1791 - Another precisely average post from DGB (7 words of nothing), why are we letting this slide? And why are we letting these votes slide? ɿ(｡･ɜ･)ɾⓌⓗⓨ?

#1803 - You wish. You're town for now but not IC levels of town.

#1811 - Oh ye gods actual content from DGB that's incredibly vaguely useful! ˓˓ ⍥⃝⃝ ˒˒

#1818 - ... I can't put my wall up in this catchup format. UNVOTE: BM - I strongly dislike the Titus and DGB votes here and the feeling is strong. I get called out for opportunism but these two get a pass? ¬ɿ(｡･ɜ･)ɾⓌⓗⓐⓣ？On what planet do I exist currently? ... actually ... don't answer that.

#1836 - I think people got more vocal and some people got more pissy.

#1839 - I kinda wanna give the sad flareon hugs... but I dont wanna get burned.

#1841 - Pooks throwing shade at E V E R Y O N E.

#1849 - ɿ(｡･ɜ･)ɾⓌⓗⓐⓣ？

#1854 - If you're town you shouldn't be self-voting anyway?

#1855 - (♡´艸`) Fair enough then

#1857 - Yup, wasn't overly impressed with it myself. But I like to show my thinking.

#1859 - I'm glad this is happening.

#1860 - Do... Do I need popcorn?

#1862 - It's called embracing the chaotic nature of my mind and rolling with it.

My mind I'va lost-a mah mind I'va lost. ma. mind. I've losta my mind I'VE LOST MY MIND

dammit now I need to work that song into a post somewhere... I think DBG might be a good candidate for it.


#1866 - Disagree. I think MC is still holding on hope for it.

[Flea The Magician]

awwww I used the same kaomoji twice in a post. 3 times if you count the moji and not the text.

I am in disgrace.

[Flea The Magician]

Seeing as ya'll don't like my catchup brainspew quote walls...

I'm just doing brainspew walls :3

[snip]

see this is the kind of wall that bothers me because it's just so useless and very few people if anyone are gonna read through it
is this a Flea thing?

Yup. It is. I get better results and it uses less spell slots if I just brain spew instead of trying to filter it

If people read it, they read it. If they don't, they don't.
If people want to ask me something, I can usually point and say "oh yeah I saw there, heres what I said" because I gotta be able to read my own drivel. If not then I say "Oh nuts I didn't notice that! brb while I go look!"

OOO would you rather me lurkey lurkerson or BRAINSPEW TO DA MAX?

[Flea The Magician]

Analysing my own spew walls....

You should be able to detect from the fluff, "me not here for long time me here for good time WHAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOO!"
I do have reads in there.
I do have some questions in there.
I do have some responses in there.

You just gotta trim the floof. Watch out for the pointy enz.

[Flea The Magician]

I shall meet you in the middle and attempt to highlight possibly useful things maybe?

[Flea The Magician]

If you're town you shouldn't be self-voting anyway?

Normally I would at deadline, as a miselim that would happen later is better than a no elim. I don't think that's the case here.

Interesting. and fair.

[Flea The Magician]

Flea, if you like that this post happened, then where is your vote to reflect it?

Because I'm chaotic af, unstable af and I think I've placed more votes than anyone at this point.

I'm already aware that my voting and progression looks opportunistic, I'm aware my brainspewing isn't regarded well here. I'm aware people dislike my voting places to the point it has derailed some bits. BM has already commented my vote means nothing, essentially due to how I play here.

So screw it I say.

If my voting scares people off wagons and carries about as much weight as a presidential vote in California then I may as well watch the others do their thang and use my powers for good and derail bad wagons.

[Flea The Magician]

Flea, if you like that this post happened, then where is your vote to reflect it?

Because I'm chaotic af, unstable af and I think I've placed more votes than anyone at this point.

I'm already aware that my voting and progression looks opportunistic, I'm aware my brainspewing isn't regarded well here. I'm aware people dislike my voting places to the point it has derailed some bits. BM has already commented my vote means nothing, essentially due to how I play here.

So screw it I say.

If my voting scares people off wagons and carries about as much weight as a presidential vote in California then I may as well watch the others do their thang and use my powers for good and derail bad wagons.

[Flea The Magician]

?

the thing is a lot of it is just "emojis!" or "good" or "average"
it's hard to parse what you mean
some more straightforwardness like this person is scummy or this is townie would be good

Maybe, but that's boring. I believe my intent and reads are often clear. When they're not, I'll say so and start ISO'ing people as I've done previously. I'm half way through a Taly ISO to calibrate my scumdar which people seem to think was iffy. I think I posted that...

[Flea The Magician]

Flea, straight-up, do you think DGB is scum?

Yes.

[Flea The Magician]

ahh yes, because me streaming my thoughts requires

B A L

A

N C E

and a clear objective.

[Flea The Magician]

None of what I did was to build a case or fabricate reasons. You're reading too far into my post and your over defensiveness over it is amusing (*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))

I am an emissary of chaos.
I stream my thoughts as I think them while I'm thinking.
You have construed this to be a lolcase.

It wasn't a case.

It was a D1 crock of poop that was me thinking "Hmmm this slot is suspicious". then me thought streaming as I looked.

Same with Titus.

[Flea The Magician]

I start with the assumption you're suspicious null. I then go look for things I like or dislike.

I do apologise if I don't play by your rules.

But Chaos has no rules.

And yes, the same with Titus.

[Flea The Magician]

I love when people try to understand the machinations and ruminations of chaos <3
Its so cute

[Flea The Magician]

Well people moan about my quote walls, pick one people!

[Flea The Magician]

{Alisae, OWER}

{Cakez, Bell, Akarin, Murder, Pooky, Gamma, BM}

{Reckoner, Haschel, Blitzo}

{TGP, DGB, Flea, Titus}

This is where I'm at and how I've changed in the past 24 hours.

I'm feeling icky about this 3v1 between

Gamma/Titus/Flea V BM

that literally has not died this entire game.

Surprisingly

Reck/Haschel/Cakez

are the only people who've recently made any sense to me in these past few pages.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*splat*

I dropped it, don't tar me with that brush. I think my interactions with BM are quite amusing more than anything AI rn.

[Flea The Magician]

{Alisae, OWER}

{Cakez, Bell, Akarin, Murder, Pooky, Gamma, BM}

{Reckoner, Haschel, Blitzo}

{TGP, DGB, Flea, Titus}

This is where I'm at and how I've changed in the past 24 hours.

I'm feeling icky about this 3v1 between

Gamma/Titus/Flea V BM

that literally has not died this entire game.

Surprisingly

Reck/Haschel/Cakez

are the only people who've recently made any sense to me in these past few pages.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*splat*

I dropped it, don't tar me with that brush. I think my interactions with BM are quite amusing more than anything AI rn.

[Flea The Magician]

Also I'm trying to keep away from the Gamma vs BM stuff.

That feels like I walked into a bar brawl when I was reading it.

[Flea The Magician]

I'm feeling icky about this 3v1 between Gamma/Titus/Flea V BM that literally has not died this entire game.

This is one of the most unnecessarily frustrating interactions that I've ever seen if all these slots are town.

My top townreads consensus are all going

"LET'S LIM

MURDER/BLITZO/NOBODY AT ALL

"

Am I high

Someone help

✿ڿڰۣ— wanna rose?

What do you want Taly? Whats your option right now?

and Thanks <3 It's a game, it's meant to be fun ultimately and I think people forget that sometimes (^_^)

[Flea The Magician]

I start with the assumption you're suspicious null. I then go look for things I like or dislike.

I do apologise if I don't play by your rules.

But Chaos has no rules.

And yes, the same with Titus.

what do you mean by "same with Titus"? Do you scumread Titus? or are you saying your defence of yourself also applies to her?

You don't need to apologise to me - mafia is a continuous learning experience and hopefully we will all get something beneficial from the game.

I took the same actions with Titus, I went in with a suspicion, and thought streamed as I read through. I have a strong scumlean on Titus.

[Flea The Magician]

I start with the assumption you're suspicious null. I then go look for things I like or dislike.

I do apologise if I don't play by your rules.

But Chaos has no rules.

And yes, the same with Titus.

what do you mean by "same with Titus"? Do you scumread Titus? or are you saying your defence of yourself also applies to her?

You don't need to apologise to me - mafia is a continuous learning experience and hopefully we will all get something beneficial from the game.

I took the same actions with Titus, I went in with a suspicion, and thought streamed as I read through. I have a strong scumlean on Titus.

maybe Titus is scum. or maybe there's a problem with your methodology. Or both perhaps.

Let's elim Titus.

Probably. I haven't got a big enough test pool to know if it works or not.

[Flea The Magician]

I'm honestly surprised that

Titus/Flea

have not fought me over my reads yet.

Why would I? Your read is your read. v( ‘.’ )v

[Flea The Magician]

Flea The Magician - I scumread this but apparently you think they don't spew this much as town

as scum?

Honestly this doesn't make sense to me because I don't know who it's aimed at. Apparently I'm scum but I don't spew as much as town and this made the read weird ┐(ﾟ～ﾟ)┌

[Flea The Magician]

Flea The Magician - I scumread this but apparently you think they don't spew this much as town

as scum?

yeah mybad you're right here

amazing what you learn when you read the next post instead of just responding ( ◞･౪･)

[Flea The Magician]

i guess my humor falls on deaf ears

no, i dont think its weird to intent hammer no lim off principle, but it is close to the deadline so

p-edit

I'm honestly surprised that

Titus/Flea

have not fought me over my reads yet.

Why would I? Your read is your read. v( ‘.’ )v

and

DGB's

post about saying

Titus

isn't getting bussed? thoughts?

They're probably buddies together tbh.

[Flea The Magician]

Hey chaos does its thing when it wants to do its thing. I am simply a vassel for Entropy and Chaos. That weird stuff happens around me gave me the title of a Magician

[Flea The Magician]

I dunno how to tell you this taly....

(●˙꒳˙●)

I post without thinking quite often.

I was also clarifying that my previous post had been made irrelevant by that post.

[Flea The Magician]

Stuffit, I like the walls, people are gunna moan either way. Don't like it? unlucky! nyeh! ε=ε=((( ^-x-^)ﾉ

But people don't want my fluffy awesome chaotic self, so I'm going to sulk while I do this because ya'll are buzzkills.

Spoiler: Page 83

No comment

Spoiler: Page 84

Nope, nothing serious to add, nothing to contribute.

Spoiler: Page 85

I took the same actions with Titus, I went in with a suspicion, and thought streamed as I read through. I have a strong scumlean on Titus.

This wasn't what you said at the time though.

Flea, what was your gut feeling on Titus before you reread her ISO and made your big wall?

Town Leaning.
I went in wanting to confirm my read and try and see what others were seeing that made her suspicious.

A suspicion isn't an alignment. I was townleaning prior to my ISO, I gained a suspicion, I decided to attempt to confirm my read. I did not confirm my read, but instead it got changed. I didn't get the result I wanted and I commented on that somewhere.

Spoiler: Page 86

Nope....

Spoiler: Page 87

I'm bored now.

Spoiler: Page 88

My ISO Wall on MC wasn't one of the typical ones I'd do. It was attempting to evaluate the case on you, I've said this before.

No objection to the plan.

I don't do pocket plays, they bore me, same as sheeping really.

Have fun.

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: TLDR

That bored the tits off me. Seriously go read them, It'll take you like 5 mins

[Flea The Magician]

The page by page catchups help me a lot, honestly. For me it gets me into the game, it stirs reactions, and helps me get my thoughts down. To me it's also helping me track my thoughts - yes this is potentially scummy - yes I could use my notes PT - but I like people to see what I'm thinking as I go because then if I'm misunderstanding something it can be corrected sooner than later.

Pocket plays are cheap ways to gain town reads.Surprisingly easy to pull off as well if you have the right people around for your style. Incredibly obvious as well to those who know how to read a player.

I'd rather put effort in, generate reads myself, and have others generate a read on me naturally. If it comes out town or scum, it's a genuine read and people will see that.

MC, that's fair. I was looking at stuff for and against your case, that was stuff that pinged with me as either for or against it. I do have a town lean on you and while the evidence is there, I don't feel the case was well motivated and with the strength it was being pushed it felt off. I went in hoping to find more in favour of you than against you.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: no elimination

<oh no... it's naked....>

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah they are, both are actually and I really would rather have a lim.

However, I cba looking at the cases, people have gone for me for my way of playing, so now I'm no efforting. I'll follow the plan, if someone convinces me its worth sheeping them I'll vote ^_^

chaos has no place here apparently and honestly I'm debating rule 1.

[Flea The Magician]

at me, not for me.

big difference

[Flea The Magician]

Be more wild if I start poking people.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Titus

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Titus

Ew

^^agreed
deadline compromises y'all go vote haschel

ew yaselves.

[Flea The Magician]

Probably a lot more, like people are wanting a lot less from me.

[Flea The Magician]

Probably a lot more, like people are wanting a lot less from me.

[Flea The Magician]

haha i can tell you really wanted that pagetop Flea

VOTE: Titus

I am only satisfyied with page 69.

Because I can "nice!" it.

[Flea The Magician]

Well, I've got my regex ready for tomorrow ^_^

Ya'll are gunna miss me whn I'm doing my other task, you know that right...

Also why can't I just be a UNR instead of a USR for once... sad times.

Also I'm bringing the chaos back tomorrow because I'm here to have fun and if you nerds dislike it, then yeet me.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: No Lim
We're not going to get consensus on a vote, we got like 15mins to deadline. If something comes up to E-1 I'll hammer it if someone points it out. Frankly I think a lot of today got wasted on pettiness and my own RL issues haven't helped my end.

[Flea The Magician]

In theory scum can sabotage, numbers and wincon indicate they've got a way to mes with us. My theory is the sabotage would be resolved via a task and people latched on to that but "oh no flea bad"

That's the response task force to sabotages.

[Flea The Magician]

In theory scum can sabotage, numbers and wincon indicate they've got a way to mes with us. My theory is the sabotage would be resolved via a task and people latched on to that but "oh no flea bad"

That's the response task force to sabotages.

[Flea The Magician]

But that's like, the only thing I like about mafia!

Oh well.
Puzzle solving time. Anyone wanna role spec on scum PR abilities?

Room denial in some form seems plausible. otherwise the game would end in 3 days? or so.

I'll put it again here...

in game, skeld map.
Rooms can be locked usually whenever with a cooldown.
Sabotage stops the doors being locked for a short period.
Sabotages are
- Reactor - 2 people in room to fix.
- O2 - 1 person in O2 and 1 person in Admin to fix.
- Comms - 1 person in comms to fix
- Lights - 1 person in elec to fix, multiple people make it harder.

[Flea The Magician]

Still going to electrical. Not reading until nightfall.

Sorry, I haven't been feeling well and I have had to ration my medications.

That sucks Titus, hope you're well again soon <3 I've been off mine all weekend and it has blown chunks

[Flea The Magician]

Honestly, there's still a lot of interesting information on this wagon.

I'd probably look at it... but ya know...

[Flea The Magician]

Mrnng ll!

Hp yr nght ws mr prdctv thn mn. TGP prtty mch fld t xst, bth m nd Bll mngd twc s mny psts s thy dd. dmttdly, t ws lw nmbr f psts bt hy w wr tryng.

ls, thnk gdnss fr rgx.

[Flea The Magician]

THNK W SHLD STRT HR

VOTE: TTS

TLY Y RLLY SCRWD M YSTRDY

D nd ppcrn fr ths? Whts th bf mrdrct?

ls, plyng t sf hr ll

[Flea The Magician]

Hy n th pls sd, my rgx chckr wn't wrk wth th wll psts thrw t s y'll wn't hv tht t fght gnst

ls nt sng my kmjs bcs t wn't wrk wth thm thr ll

[Flea The Magician]

Mrnng ll!

Hp yr nght ws mr prdctv thn mn. TGP prtty mch fld t xst, bth m nd Bll mngd twc s mny psts s thy dd. dmttdly, t ws lw nmbr f psts bt hy w wr tryng.

ls, thnk gdnss fr rgx.

morning all!

hope your night was more productive than mine. TGP pretty much fled to ???, both me and Bell managed ??? so many posts so they did. admittedly, it was a low number of posts but hey we were trying.

lose, thank goodness for ???

cls bt nt qt. ws gng t pt _ fr vwls bt fgrd t ws gsnt th sprt f th tsk ll

[Flea The Magician]

flea, let's keep it simple.

do you have mech info to divulge? is TGP scum?

W trd ntrctng wth TGP bt sd frm tllng m tht 'd msntrprtd my rl PM nd ddn't nd t d my rstrctn t nght, thy jst wrn't thr. Ws smthng lk 30 psts ch frm m nd bll nd 15 frm TGP thnk?

Dnn, 'm dffntly sspcs thgh. Nthng mchncl.

[Flea The Magician]

cldn't vn tll y wht TGP's tsk s, 'm gng t ssm t's wrd lmttn thgh.

ls y wnt bnxs? 00s txt spk s mkng cm bck wth n vwls llwd! ll

[Flea The Magician]

Nt gy! h gds ths rstrctn s nt gng t b hlpfl hr... #nbyPrd!!

---

'm wr, jst fnd t lttl dd s thr wr fw qstns drctd rnd nd thy wrn't thr t nswr ny f thm...

---

RD! Bt lgt, tryng t kp my psts cncs hr ll

---

nd bttr rgx sqnc s cn d qts...

[Flea The Magician]

'm gy f - jst nt gy ll.

<-- prnns vr thr f y nd mr hnts.


m lvng HC's rstrctn, ngl ll

Tht's 2 fld. 'd ssm n fckps llwd, t lst, 'm nt llwd ny wth ths n.

cn't s vwls, hpflly ths wll hlp --> bcdfghjklmnpqrstvwxyz.

thnk Bll fld, tht's 3.

[Flea The Magician]

Rds r gng t b hrd t d

Twn+++
=Tly
=ls

Twn++
=Rcknr

Twn +
=Bttl Mg

Nll
=HC
=Bll
=TGP


Scm -
=Gmm
=DGB

[Flea The Magician]

gh wll my wlls rn't pssbl ntl prgrm my wn rgx thng t gnr th tgs. ls hvng hg fbr flr s pls br wth m.

DGB stll hs thr vrg wrd cnt t mntn s.

Tts bll cs... Thr ws lt f s spccng n ptntl sbs. Th mths wrks t t wth nythng lss thn 5 scm ssmng ll tsks r ctlly cmpltd. Thn sng mt t ttck whn w knw rm ws blckd bcs svrl ppl nnncd t...? wrd.
VOTE: Tts - nt sr f ths cnts r nt. W shll s wth th VC thgh.
Ths cs hs mr xcrmnt thn sl. 'v clld th rm lckng s mny tms, 'v spcltd lt n th ptntl sbs, nd Blls gttng grf fr t. thnk nt. Bll ws xctly whr thy shld hv bn lst nght t nd ws prdctv n th PT.

Hwdy Mtr, wlcm t th chs tht s pst rstrctn prty!

@Gmm
Wt... m bng SR'd bcs ddn't hmmr? mn fr f m bt sy wht y mn Gmm. hd nd RL ss t ttnd t. *shrg* Whts wth th 810rg thng nywy?

hv n cl wh tw shds s.

[Flea The Magician]

h ww, rdng tht bck, shld kp ths shrt nd swt.