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I'm just surprised you gave up, around p1 it seemed like people were earnestly responding to you and now you're a musician lolIn post 46, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Eh. It's a lot of effort to end rvs before everyone's posted because people love this bullshit. So I'll be playing Frere Jaques on a rainbow xylophone until a few more people have checked inProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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That was meta of other towngames, I think my read on you has been pretty good throughoutIn post 106, Dunnstral wrote:
When did I ever do this here?In post 104, unwnd wrote:Pointedly self-assured and unwilling to compromise for his own ideals
People are attributing things to me that didn't happen
Don't think there has been many (if at all) games I misread you. Leading the way you did above me though is a bit newProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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Feel like in the last game we played together your ferocity was a means of baiting people into arguments for the benefit of reading them further. I was someone who became victim to this, but if you reveal your hand too early then I don't know how Dunn is supposed to feel the pressureProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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Maybe not exclusively but I think there are silver linings in the way he's presented his arguments thus far that make my statement trueIn post 135, nopointinactingup wrote:
This isn't how he's acting at all and it's weird how you're defending him with it.In post 104, unwnd wrote:Pointedly self-assured and unwilling to compromise for his own ideals
It's only scum when he breaks that mold in ways that give him thread brownie points
Even then, it was a metaread as I told DunnProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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I think right now I have suspension of disbelief with some of the arguments being said. You have a lot of them seeped into essentially good faith (just trust me bro vibes) but that seems pretty par for the course early on. I find Dunn null despite my defense of him, and maybe tilted my head just a little bit when he made p#105. The problem with nopoint I have is that he is arguing with the same process he is. It reads to me like a potential scum who didn't have prior thoughts so they just defaulted to turning the original argument against his attacker
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It's the same reason I'd defend any friend in a game honestly, I have history with Dunn and I don't think anything he's done is worth incriminating, therefore if bad arguments come towards him I am willing to give my two centsIn post 150, shellyc wrote:why would you defend a nullProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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Yeah sorry it's a bit late. We're not very far into this game. There's no one who's gonna make a case or have all this incriminating evidence. It's fine to just bullshit a bit of your reads just to see what sticks, because I certainly do the same thing too. When I looked at the way Dunn/Nopoint were fighting, it wasn't that I felt Dunn was making riveting points, rather than he seem convinced of them. Nopoint on the other hand just pretty acted in the same way, but didn't seem to care about why Dunn was convinced in the first place, which in turn led into me dropping my points on his metaIn post 151, shellyc wrote:
can you phrase this another way because I don't get what you're saying hereIn post 149, unwnd wrote:The problem with nopoint I have is that he is arguing with the same process he is. It reads to me like a potential scum who didn't have prior thoughts so they just defaulted to turning the original argument against his attacker
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IMO I'm not thinking that hard into it yet, which is why I was like 'nothing interests me.' Trying to read into who has the informed POV right now when the game is again just starting and feels barren seems like just leading yourself into a trap
I usuallyread based on tone, then my logic follows that and I fill the spaces in-between. I think tonally Nopoint's aggression seemed misplacedProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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I'm not changing the way i give my reads just because you asked me to lolIn post 164, shellyc wrote:In post 160, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
Can anyone back this up? Because I don't like the last part hereIn post 104, unwnd wrote:Pointedly self-assured and unwilling to compromise for his own ideals
It's only scum when he breaks that mold in ways that give him thread brownie points
quoteIn post 156, unwnd wrote:IMO I'm not thinking that hard into it yet, which is why I was like 'nothing interests me.' Trying to read into who has the informed POV right now when the game is again just starting and feels barren seems like just leading yourself into a trap
I usuallyread based on tone, then my logic follows that and I fill the spaces in-between. I think tonally Nopoint's aggression seemed misplacedspecificposts that lead you to think this?
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I know that and I just explained why I'm hesitant about your anti-townnessIn post 199, Flavor Leaf wrote:
I just won a town game with you, dude.In post 193, unwnd wrote:Were those game scumgames? I understand your ego in that regard
I feel like it's something you maintain because you want to have excuses for when you finally roll scum
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I want you to disassociate from yourself even if it's just to humor me and give your takes on Shelly's behavior towards you
If you're recalling Xeno, you had a strong take on Noraa that I initially didn't see cause I felt you were picking on someone lesser than youProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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I think she leads with what she sees immediately and then just hits submit even if she might redact it laterIn post 211, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Nothing popped up for me that pinged me either way. I wanted the fluffiness of Shelly noted, though, because things could happen later in the game that could maybe later look AI.In post 208, unwnd wrote:I want you to disassociate from yourself even if it's just to humor me and give your takes on Shelly's behavior towards you
If you're recalling Xeno, you had a strong take on Noraa that I initially didn't see cause I felt you were picking on someone lesser than you
I've played with Shelly, but I don't remember where nor would I be able to say what type of player they are.
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But seriously FL don't fucking self-vote
I don't care what's going up in your brain, but I think that's just gonna make scum not want to vote you? They're gonna look at that like 'well wtf is FL doing' and proceed to ignore you if your intent is to get others to come at youProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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I will never ever think this in my entire lifeIn post 221, Flavor Leaf wrote:When I Self Vote, it is Pro Town, because it's not "just" a self vote.
Self-voting will always be anti-town and right now all I have to say is good luckProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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In post 249, Andresvmb wrote:but I’ve yet to be able to identify Scum D1 on this forum,
I understand your reasons extrapolated in the rest of your post but I'm not sure why you included this in your thought processProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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You're here and that's cool
Flavor knows better to self-vote, he's supposed to be experienced. If you want to argue if anyone was being superfluous it was Flavor, and frankly I'm not gonna sit and entertain and neither should you. Unfortunately, Flavor has a huge ego. I know you're not probably not aware of it but it is always bordering anti-town, and usually when I find myself in conversations with him they end up with me leaving them empty, at least in the aspect of how he treats the game. Right now Flavor has sat here and said 'i tried to get the game started' but like I predicted nobody nibbled and now I've been left with an empty thought on what it all meant, so feel free to give your perspective AndersProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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I take anything posted here at face value until challenged otherwise, and I'm not exactly someone who believes you have to have pin-point accuracy in order to be a boon to town. So far, you've posted the most volume in terms of actual things I can latch onto, and there's a bit of dissonance I'm feeling because it seems like the way you interpret things by just throwing them out there feels similarly to how I do thingsIn post 263, Andresvmb wrote:
It’s important that I say that because I want to be challenged on my reads. I am decent at figuring out what the Scum have been angling towards later in the game (I would argue it’s my greatest strength). But my ability to identify Scum early in the game is just not great. So take my views with a grain of salt.In post 261, unwnd wrote:In post 249, Andresvmb wrote:but I’ve yet to be able to identify Scum D1 on this forum,
I understand your reasons extrapolated in the rest of your post but I'm not sure why you included this in your thought processProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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Giving players like Flavor no accountability allows to run amuck and do whatever the fuck he wants. I don't care if he's Don Corgi and I didn't care in the last game I played with him, his actions have to prove to me otherwise he's going to beneficial to town winconProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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When it comes to nopoint, I'm not sure where you got that I was instigating an attack because Nopoint was the one who came at dunn in the first place
I'm not dunn's knight in shining armor though, I just felt the approach was baseless and I find if someone is heated about something it usually comes from one or two schools of thought
1) They are doing it intentionally in order to base a read on a player by means of reaction
2) They are replicating behavior they think is synonymous with town by seeming ilke they care a lot about this (thing)
In the instance of Nopoint, I leaned on the second and honestly I feel even stronger on that second point because he is simply not here and didn't seem to care enough in the first place lolProtect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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I don't think that hard about engagements like that, when it comes to my scum game it's just a lot of hollow words that look nice on the thread but lead to nothingIn post 272, Andresvmb wrote:@unwnd, ah but my point was not that you were instigating an attack. I made a strategic observation about what you could be doing as Scum. IF (admittedly a decently big if, but I would lean positive on their aggressive attitudes) Dunn and nopoint are both Town, then what you did would make a lot of sense as Scum. You chose a side despite the fact that you don’t particularly TR one side of the argument (you claimed to have done it for a friend, but that just seems like a potential pocket attempt to me), which sets you well for the next few days. If the fight continues (say, because you believe Dunn is stubborn), and we end up in a situation where one of them flips, you get to hide behind the person actually driving the attack. It happens often enough around these parts that I simply had to point it out.
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I'm short of hearing please elaborateIn post 284, Flavor Leaf wrote:
You fell for it.In post 271, unwnd wrote:Yes Flavor came back in and said 'welp I tried' even when I told him that no one would fall for
Whatever he was doing
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You missed the train already lolIn post 293, nopointinactingup wrote:Keeping a fos on dunn but would like to see where this goes.
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I'll give you the more recent one that is a better summarization anywaysIn post 268, unwnd wrote:When it comes to nopoint, I'm not sure where you got that I was instigating an attack because Nopoint was the one who came at dunn in the first place
I'm not dunn's knight in shining armor though, I just felt the approach was baseless and I find if someone is heated about something it usually comes from one or two schools of thought
1) They are doing it intentionally in order to base a read on a player by means of reaction
2) They are replicating behavior they think is synonymous with town by seeming ilke they care a lot about this (thing)
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The last time we talked about this I believe I gave you close to the same answer I'd give to anyone else, and right now I find myself in a position where I am seeing a common mistake. The mistake being that people are basing their reads on happenstance instead of provided evidence. It's early, I've said that before. It's getting not so early anymore and I'm seeing a few reads starting to maybe develop. The basis of your read is that Dunn was hinting he had prior knowledge. I honestly think you could attribute that stance to a few posters. Is it a cause of the room being dead and people just shooting into the ether to see what happens? Not sure. I think there's a difference between believing something and then like, forcing yourself to.
Tell me: if this game progresses beyond this state will you still be holding onto your initial feeling of Dunn?Protect yourself from the back of your mind- unwnd
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GodIn post 305, nopointinactingup wrote:Can you rephrase that first part in plain simple to the point English? I don’t see why I couldn’t change my reads under compelling evidence but people are slave to their initial bias all the time
Are my points really confusing people
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