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[Starbuck]

Sup guys? I am here and apologize for not being here sooner, but was visiting with a friend who is being deported in the next few days and that just was the priority last night.

I'm gonna read and come back with some thoughts after I get through some work at my office today.

[Starbuck]

Beginning to Page 9

Okay, I'm here, HAI!

Has anyone played previous iterations of Hidden Temple?

I have not.


Dang, Pooky pulling no punches with a challenge on Page 4. Seems a bit early, no?

Vp and I've been talking in the pt and I think he's pretty townie and if I had to gun to head, I'd say he's town.

If y'all are both town, why hideaway in your PT?

After this challenge ends someone should challenge the Red Jaguars
I think they’re both scum

Why? (I think I caught your answer as I read further, but anything to add?)

I need Starbuck/AGar to post more so I can read them

Apologies, I'm here! Work has been dumb AF this week.

like you could make that happen

if gamma is scum, ur 90% a buddy.

How so? What's the connection that you see?

Lilith feels like she’s promoting TTvTT conflict

Your partner started a challenge on like page 3....

+1

gamma is way too full of crap this game to be town

I've been feeling the similarly as I've been reading through, but then again, he's fooled me once before. I'm keeping my eye on him.

also can you guys please shut the fuck up and calm down and stop spamposting irrelvant contentless bullshit posts

you're going to cause mass replacements when people who went to bed early tonight wake up with a dozen or more pages to read

Seriously, thank you.

And here comes Reck with the spicy hot takes on Page 8.

“Scum or liability” is the lazy/bad way to read Pooky

What is the correct take on it?

I was wondering the same.

[Starbuck]

Page 9 to Page 11

BIG +1 to Reck's 203.

Nice to see Baltar share his thoughts in 220. Noting it because I want to go back and read it over again later.

It looks like “I know you’re town but need to justify my vote here with moral outrage”

But it also looks like “this guys head is full of stuffing he’s not good to keep around”

I didn’t like Pooky asserting “I’m town bc scum wouldn’t be this reckless” either

I appreciate these perspectives. I've been considering the last as I've been reading.

Sup guys? I am here and apologize for not being here sooner, but was visiting with a friend who is being deported in the next few days and that just was the priority last night.

I'm gonna read and come back with some thoughts after I get through some work at my office today.

god, that's awful sorry mandy

Yeah, fuck ICE and their disbelief of my friends' loving marriage.


There's a 1v1 between Gamma and Noraa on Page 10 that I need to come back and have a closer look at.



I've gotta go do some work, but I'll be back.

[Starbuck]

Page 10 to 14

Reading back over Page 10 because it was still bothering me after I read yesterday. I don't have a lot of experience with her, but Noraa seems quite overdefensive and borderline unreasonable in 232 and 242. I'm just sensing raised hackles every time I see her address Gamma. That can be attributed to being 1 of the 4 today, but I'm not feeling a genuine sense of outrage. It's like she's putting on a show of being mad at Gamma, especially with the atrocious AtE.

In 232, notsci brings another perspective to the table and Noraa automatically slots him as scum without fully fleshing out his points or having a conversation with him. It's hasty and total OMGUS.

If I don't act high and mighty with confidence in games where I'm heavily SRed, I fucking always die a day 1 lim. Is that hard to understand or something?

This is AtE of the highest level. I used to be an easy Day 1 elim, too, for a long time, but if you act scummy, you're going to get votes. That's how it goes. I think Gamma is completely right with his response in 258. Additionally, I'm not feeling the "high and mighty" in this scenario, but more like stomping of the feet like in 260.

Yeah, after reading through all of this, I have more faith in Gamma town than Noraa town.

What is UT posting in the PT so far, Reck?

he's not. he has one post calling me a bitch that's it

Ahh, so par for the course, then.


No Gamma, stop selfvoting! RE: 280. I know you're frustrated, but there are many other players besides Noraa and her opinion of you isn't the end all be all here.

I could see that? But honestly at this point I'm pissed off about things to the point I'd rather have my slot resolved ASAP, and prove wrong those who think I'm scum here.

No, this is lame and a bullshit excuse. Get your vote off yourself. Who out of the other 3 is most deserving of your vote and why?


It's interesting because there's a Gamma/Noraa 1v1 and a Pooky/Baltar 1v1 happening. I feel like I've sorted the first, but I'm not sure about the 2nd.

god dammit you're gonna make me read a bunch of spammy bullshit aren't you

I'm too old for this shit

This is the quote of the YEAR.

[Starbuck]

Page 15 to 16

@UT I'll just tell you to skim the interactions of me and noraa, it contributes literally nothing

Apparently, it's not nothing if it got you to vote for yourself.

Pooky makes a lot of sense with his 359.

I was joking earlier but Reck might actually be scum here
The more I think about it the more I dislike him complaining about non-existent spam, seems like an excuse for him to not play

As someone who is trying to catch up and wading through it now, it isn't non-existent and I don't like this brush off of Will here.

I mean, your next damn post is:

I skimmed most of the last five pages too much bullshit not enough scumhunting

So why are you calling Reck being scum when he isn't wrong?

Oh good, Baltar called you out in the moment in 368 and your 384 really does nothing for me. I don't think it's alignment indicative, but if you were in my shoes right now (falling further behind because more pages keep getting added), you'd get it.

He isn't throwing around AtE unlike you two.

He isn't throwing around AtE unlike you two.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FROM THE QUEEN OF ATE HERSELF

Have I thrown around AtE this game at all?
No. BECAUSE YOU EFFING MADE US MISS ALL OF RVS.

This is rich. Pot Kettle Black.

Cherrypicking/lying by omission isn't exactly towny

+1

Wild notion, but 46% of the posts this game are from noraa and gamma so how about the two of you chill out and let some other people talk instead of suffocating the game?

Seriously, FFS.



Oh VPB, this Gamma case in 395. You talk about Gamma speaking about you and Noraa hiding away in the PT, but what about Pooky who originally brought that subject to the table in the first place? If Gamma is scummy for it, is Pooky? Why vote Gamma and not Pooky?

I also think (at this point) that y'all are spending more time defending talking in the PT than actually discussing the game. Why not bring those conversations and original thoughts to the rest of the town? I think Gamma and Pooky are right in calling you out on this and both of y'all's defensiveness about it is disappointing.

[Starbuck]

Page 17 to 21

UNVOTE:
So it’ll take a little more effort to ship me off.

About damn time.

agar is a player in this game?

Yep, this is my fault.

I do think other people should talk more because the activity overview is .... Something.

I was about to ask if everyone was an Auro alt because FFS.

off topic - this'll come up later if Starbuck is on the table, but I feel like her catchup is very fluff.

I wasn't even into the meat of stuff until this morning, so I get that. It's been a weird week to say the least.

However, I dig the rest of 455, even if I don't necessarily agree on all your points. Out of the 4, I do see Noraa as the most likely scum (reasons in my past catch up posts) and I appreciate your alternate albeit similar perspective here.

Noting this to come back for a further in depth read, as with Noraa's response to it in 483.

just because you can't articulate a gut scum read doesn't mean it isn't real

+1

How well do Noraa and VP know each other? They both seem very trusting of the other when I think town would be more suspicious/paranoid of early mutual townreads. Noraa is suspicious of gamma townreading her (a trait I generally consider towny), but why isn’t she paranoid of VP?

This is a great question.

I think Noraa is being Naive and it’s being exploited by VP.

I think you're reaching really hard with this and not giving Noraa enough credit. To be fair, it's kind of a misogynistic take and I don't appreciate that.

I have been concerned with VP before but it has never been voiced in thread.

And this is why hiding away in your PT is an issue.


I appreciate Pooky's line of questioning to VPB and Noraa from 20 to 21. Noting this to go back and read a little closer (just wanting to get through catching up).

How about this: how many people who are not in the challenge are using their PTs to talk about the game?

I mean, we've both been pretty absent so our PT is like "hi," but maybe if I had some thought process to work out or if I need a place to toss some notes. Otherwise, I just put all my thoughts and reads directly in the game thread. I do need to bomb him with some memes, though.

[Starbuck]

Page 22 - ALMOST FRAKKING THERE

the thing that worries me w/Noraa is I'm pretty sure all of the AtE you're calling out she would be doing regardless of alignment
@Starbuck

I don't have as much experience with her as the rest of you. I think this is our first game, but I'm not particularly liking her stances or her approach to the game.

the thing that worries me w/Noraa is I'm pretty sure all of the AtE you're calling out she would be doing regardless of alignment
@Starbuck

Im literally BARELY AtE'ing. I have done nearly no AtE at all. Whats up with this crap ass shade at me for AtE'ing when Gamma's AtE has certainly been MUCH more present.

Starbuck's stance around gamma is really weird.

I've been thinking about gamma lately and I'm coming around to gamma town somewhat.

It's hard to say but aorn I'm not all that convinced in gamma scum anymore.

I think my new solve looks like notsci/starbuck/UT/___

1. I just caught up with the whole game in the last 3 days (finally) and you were very clearly AtE-ing. To sit here and say that you aren't or haven't isn't true. We've never played together before, but I quoted specific instances in my catch up where you were very clearly doing so. Continuing to deny it and continuing to be overdefensive, when you are clearly doing something, reads as scum to me.

2. Deflection to Gamma - "I wasn't doing this, but GAMMA WAS DOING THIS MORE THAN ME. You need to look at HIM!" Nuff said.

3. My stance around Gamma is weird, but you're coming around to him as town? So why is my town stance on him weird?

So why are you calling Reck being scum when he isn't wrong?

Oh good, Baltar called you out in the moment in 368 and your 384 really does nothing for me. I don't think it's alignment indicative, but if you were in my shoes right now (falling further behind because more pages keep getting added), you'd get it.

I'm looking at this in the context of other games I've played recently which went BLAZING (like Betrayal) and this is really nothing in comparison

I can see that. I'm considering Mafia of Revelations and the hell that was putting up with Auro on Day 1.

I also think (at this point) that y'all are spending more time defending talking in the PT than actually discussing the game. Why not bring those conversations and original thoughts to the rest of the town? I think Gamma and Pooky are right in calling you out on this and both of y'all's defensiveness about it is disappointing.

This is a pretty BS point. Pooky is the person who repeatedly brings up the PT. I'm not being defensive by trying to answer his questions.

Further, I've raised many lines of questioning outside of that, so you're incorrect to say I'm not bringing original lines of thought. Pooky, and to a lesser degree notscience, are the ones repeatedly asking me to defend PT use, which is dumb. Why are you framing it as myself being the driver of that when I'm clearly not?

First off, I was asking a question to better understand your perspective. Your overdefensiveness is noted. In the case that you made against Gamma, you stated that he was attacking you about the PT rather than Pooky. You voted for Gamma in that post, too, and used that as your reasoning. I wish you had quoted my whole response.

In any case, for the majority of this game that I just caught up on, there's waaaaaay more talk about y'all defending your PT than other subjects. I think the line of questioning that has occurred is important and I'm concerned about this Day 1 blood pact that y'all made because I've never taken you for that guy. However, I've appreciated your responses more than I have Noraa's.

Also, I never said that you aren't bringing original lines of thought to the table (you're putting words in my mouth), but that the PT talk has been a big discussion point that is taking more of everyone's attention. If you and Noraa weren't so obstinate about it, that might not be the case.

Its great that Starbuck is throwing shade at so many people yet not voting anyone.

You've obviously never played with me before, esp when I'm forced into catch up mode. I vote once I'm completely caught up. I try not to do it as I go because I don't want to accidentally quickhammer.

The fact that she decides that basically pooky and vp don't exist and the whole choice is between gamma and I is interesting as well.

I didn't decide that they don't exist. Maybe you should read my posts again.

She also seems to have a thing for pocketing gamma.

Nope, I just think he's town.

[Starbuck]

VOTE: Noraa

And done.

[Starbuck]

You keep saying she's the victim here, but also I'm getting snowed and duped by her or whatever. You see how this argument is illogical, right?

Hence why I mentioned to notsci that she's not getting enough credit.

I'm not particularly liking the scapegoating of you.

[Starbuck]

I can think about voting vp today in return for a cake yeet tomorrow.

Setting up elims is inherently scummy.

People should start voting so we can move this challenge to a conclusion and real challenges can begin.

Why isn't this a real challenge?

Starbuck: she initially captured my mind with her thought-out quote walls but my heart didn’t buy it and my heart was validated when she wrote off Pooky vs. VP in favor of fueling the non-existent Gamma vs. Noraa fire. She has not said a single word on that since initially calling them hard-to-read. Scum.

I need to do some more reading before I'll feel confident on my reads of Pooky and VP. I said as such in my catch ups, so why does that make me scum?

Starbuck said I was underestimating you. I have adjusted my reads accordingly.

Does Starbuck even know my meta?

What does your meta matter? He called you naive and said VP was exploiting you. The idea of someone "exploiting" you, or anyone else, is not a good feeling and I'm not about that type of shit. I'm glad that notsci was receptive to what I said (he could have gotten real defensive, but he didn't) and took the constructive criticism for what it was.

[Starbuck]

I need to do some more reading before I'll feel confident on my reads of Pooky and VP. I said as such in my catch ups, so why does that make me scum?

I haven't seen a single peep from you indicating you're actually doing it. And you've got a strict timetable to do so if you want to change my mind, specifically, once this challenge ends I'm set on it, because then the topic becomes sorta a non-issue.

Can I get a little longer than like 12 hrs? I'm balancing two jobs between all this and just did a major catch up.

[Starbuck]

Just got home from 12 hours on the food truck. Gonna catch up and hope to get back to the other things that I wanted to read. Y'all added 10 pages again, so I can't guarantee what I'm going to get through.

[Starbuck]

It's just that I'm exhausted, dude. I'm not sure why you're being so rude about this.

[Starbuck]

Question! Does a soul read differ from a gut read? If so, what makes it different?

Take that up with the people who want this challenge to be over with. I'm willing to let you have that time but

it's not negotiable

that I won't look favorably on you if you fail to deliver before this bubble bursts, whenever that is.

Ultimatums are lame. I don't deal with them IRL nor will I be threatened with them while playing a game for fun. I didn't plan to have 8 days of work with one day off and then back to it this morning for another 5 or 6, but I'm doing the best I can. I'm not sure why you feel like you can act this way and be a bully, but it's not endearing or warranted. I've thought you're town this entire time so far, but I'm starting to question my read and whether I sorted you correctly. You've been hella rude to me for no reason while being one of the few who just keep populating the thread with more and more pages every time I come back to it. Thus, making it harder to stay current. Then you have the gall to tell me something is "non negotiable"? How is that even a town mindset?

So I might go back and re-read for me, if I have the time, but given this awfulness (and the fact that as I've kept reading I feel like I sorted VPB, but am now down to just Pooky), I'll probably just keep my thoughts to myself or my PT.

.. don't really get the scumreads on cakes. Is noraa calling him scum because he's not scummy enough? What is this logic?

I'm not feeling anything odd about him either. For me, it just seems like Noraa is lashing out at anyone who remotely suspects her.


Appreciating VPB's explanation in 674. I'm happy with my vote.

I don't flail as scum until lylo unless there are large amounts of pressure on me.

Saying stupid things isn't exactly AI for me.
Being defensive isn't AI for me.
Being scummy is however.
I never die day 1 as scum. Not once.
Half my town games however end on day 1 for me.

Self-meta, like regular meta, is trash. You've been flailing all through this day.

Well I don't trust anyone so there won't be full transparency from me.

That's not really how it works.....

um the point of full transparency is for the rest of us to trust you...

+1 million

[Starbuck]

um u still havent answered who u want to yeet noraa

She did, though. "Anyone who isn't her."

Am I wrong UT? I’m normally a much higher post count player but I’ve been able to reign it in to let the game breathe. Do you disagree with that analysis?

nope! it's just wild to me to see someone else saying it

I've been feeling it, too. The Activity Overview is gross.


Appreciating cliff notes from Pooky in 737 and 740, re: Noraa. And she says she's not flailing.

I agree on notsci being scum most likely. I don't agree so much on cakez

why?

Notsci seems to be cruising for path of least resistance yeet today. Remember when I said scum would use Pooky's insta-challenge as a way to take no responsibility for their actions today? Notsci is like the epitomy of that. He said he's willing to hammer anyone. I also feel like he's not trying to solve. I don't have a case at the moment because I tend to just keep impressions of each player in my head, and then later if I feel super strongly someone is scum, I'll re-iso them to see if their posting matches up with the impression I have or not. More often than not, I get bad feelings about someone for a good reason.

And that's leaving off how he felt you were "exploiting" Noraa's naivete. Basically, blaming you for "tricking" her or some such. I'm not quite sure if his quick turn around to my call out of that is genuine, but time will tell. He could have been a lot more defensive towards me with his response and he wasn't. So that's something.

ah yes, the "ignore scummy behavior" tactic

that old chestnut

Noraa's push on me is so bad regardless of alignment here and everything she posts feels manufactured

Agreed. I've been trying to figure out her hyperfocus on you, but I got nada. And of course, right after this, she shades you and notsci for not voting her? I just don't get it.

dramatic toxic blowout

quite an overstatement and extremely shady of u to say that to discredit my reads.

He's not wrong, though. This whole day has been The Noraa Show.

Say what you want. Bottom line is your read is off and your tunneling whoever scumreads you is a bore. I’ve already volunteered to be in the challenge tomorrow should town decide they want me to go.

I haven't tunneled everyone that SRs me. Don't discredit lol.

And he's not wrong #2.

[Starbuck]

He says it's "weak, and therefore useless"
I disagree with that sentiment, but he essentially is unwilling to vote VP despite having scum feelings from him

Having a weak/null-ish read doesn't not equal "scum feelings," though. I think you're hardcore misrepping UT right now. Like this push would make sense re:Reck, but not UT.

would it not do to shore that read up though? It's the same issue I brought up regarding baltar where the solving is not present imo

Why? If he has a weak read, he's going to work to sort VPB and the conclusion might be opposite of his initial feelings due to the evolution of his read. It's literally what anyone should do on Day 1. Everyone works through their sorting differently and it seems like you're just mad because he didn't do it your way.

dunno what else you except from someone with a 3 month join date but if ur solution is just "PL all newbies", ur the silly one.

I don't appreciate this statement at all. He wasn't saying anything against newbies and you are clearly putting words in his mouth/misrepping him with this. Not to mention that leaning back on your join date, when you seem to have played a ton of games since being on site, is pretty gross and wholly unfair to VPB. I'm saying that as someone who has played with him since *I* was a newbie.

you're so confibiased it's unreal
maybe instead of doing mental gymnastics to somehow confirm to yourself that I'm scum why not just look at the obvious and realize I'm not voting you because I'm not scum and I'm not scumreading you

Town!cake doesn't act this calm and composed. It just doesn't happen.

I am not a meta expert but when someone is far out of their town range, I can see it.

when I'm not being fuckwagoned to elim on day 1 then yeah I don't get pissy lol

I'm still sorry about Weakest Link btw, which (for anyone reading) is a prime example of a pissed off Townie Cakez getting miselimmed D1. Even if he wrongly tunneled on me.

I don't think the newbie card does much for me considering I've never won a game solely because of it.

So why mention it, other than as an attempt to make him feel bad? I'm pretty annoyed with this tactic and don't think it comes from a town mindset at all.

they don't need much evidence. After all they are entirely based on feeling/vibes.

Ummmmmmmmmmm................yeah. About that.

[Starbuck]

Anyone wanna tell me what the uh .... size difference is about?

You're serious with this? You really wanna go down this road? OKAY..............

That's a game where I replaced in and Cakez forced replaced me. I didn't have the time to catch up on 100 pages because work ramped up. It's not a fair example.

Also, why are you not telling the class that you

replaced in

for me there? Or does that not matter? It only matters because you want to prove a point (that you aren't going to prove) because you didn't do your work and can't go look at games that I played till completion (whether I started at the beginning of replaced in) where I needed to work through catching up.


My sleep's been fucked, so I decided to work through catching up on another 10-15 pages this morning, which is still better than some of the other folks who can't keep up with your spamfest hyper posting.

[Starbuck]

EBWOP: (whether I started at the beginning OR replaced in)

[Starbuck]

Starbuck what do you think about notsci individual from Noraa interactions?

I'm feeling a bit better about him than I did when he was all "VP manipulated that sweet little girl." He changed his tune pretty quick when I said "I don't think you're giving Noraa enough credit" and he seemed to take it to heart. I appreciate his push back on her because I saw original thought and was nodding most of the way through.

Now, outside of that, I do feel he's kind of floating a bit and I'd like to see his thoughts on others. His whole "I'll hammer whomever" feels more like frustrated town, and opposite from Noraa's "I'll vote anyone who isn't me." That could also just be Day 1 and trying to wade through the spamfest. I do think there are others who are contributing less than he has, but for right now, I'm pretty okay with him.

[Starbuck]

I do think there are others who are contributing less than he has, but for right now, I'm pretty okay with him.

who else are you looking at here?

Lilith, Reck, and basically everyone in the 2nd half of the activity overview aside from the mod.

It's not because I think they are scum. I'm null on a good chunk of that side of the overview because they are being overshadowed by people who just want to hear themselves talk.

[Starbuck]

I take it back. I just read Starbuck's ISO. It matches up a fair amount. I've been skipping those walls btw.

Not reading is scummy, fyi.

[Starbuck]

I repped in for her twice or something.

Once and it was that Large Normal, modded by Cakez, that just finished.

[Starbuck]

what you need to understand is that meta is garbage and every game i play i treat like a brand new wonderful experience with no preconceived notions about anything or anybody.

This is my usual approach, too, and part of the reason why Reck and I became friends back in the day.

Although, if something sparks my mind about someone's behavior, I might it mention, but I'm not delving into completed games to go searching for quotes. I want to know why someone is town or scum in this game and not rehash an entire completed game all over again.

[Starbuck]

Shamless prod dodge. Will get caught up tonight (hopefully) or tomorrow AM. Apologies for my relative absence since Thursday night.

For now, have an explanation in the form of a picture:

Spoiler:

If you're not sharing, this picture means nothing to me.

[Starbuck]

Me after Reck's 1041:

[Starbuck]

Busy last few days with work, but I'm here and hi. It's much better coming back to like 6 pages rather than 15.

I'm sorry to be wrong about Noraa. I hope a break serves her well and maybe she takes away some of the constructive feedback from folks here. I think it could be a real benefit to her in the future.

I'd like to elim in this today I think Noraa's wagon was scum infested and taking advantage of her known predisposition to get emotional

Question, am I the only one who has never played with her before?

i'm not challenging anyone rn this thread needs to breathe now that we're finally out of that bs

Agreed. I'd almost say this is a similar format to The Weakest Link where we should plan out the challenges.

GE is still scum y'all.

My read shifted hard on him towards the end of yesterday. I wouldn't mind seeing he and Pooky up again.

Her catchup posts felt a lot like cheering from the sidelines and the way she was all "rah rah Reck makes good points" just *feels* like scum trying to get into my blindspot but it has been quite a hot minute since I've played with her so it could be genuine which is why I haven't really acted on it

I worked 8 days straight, had one day off (Sunday), and am back at it as of Monday till, at least, Saturday. I've been catching up and reading where I can and not actually here in real time, so I can see why you'd feel this way.

agar I literally was saying for days it was four town. Several people scum read me for it.

It is a pretty scummy take, though, and an easy way to shirk any responsibility for yesterday.

[Starbuck]

Show me where I’m shirking responsibility for it and not chastising Pooky.

For some reason, I had thought you refrained from placing a vote at all. I was mistaken as I just went back to look at the final vote count.

[Starbuck]

My read shifted hard on him towards the end of yesterday. I wouldn't mind seeing he and Pooky up again.

I'd take a detailed explanation of this. Your read shifted hard, how and why? Before or after the noraa flip? Sounds like before.

Definitely before and starting around the time when I finished my catch up. At the beginning of catching up, when I came in the game and read through the atrocious back and forth between he and Noraa, I was townreading him. I could empathize with a lot of what he was saying, especially in the face of someone who was being out of this world unreasonable. It's all laid out in 522.

It was after I said this:

It's interesting because there's a Gamma/Noraa 1v1 and a Pooky/Baltar 1v1 happening. I feel like I've sorted the first, but I'm not sure about the 2nd.

That things seemed to get blown from a molehill into a mountain.

If you reference my 642, I responded to GE's blatant misrep of me in his 603. He said that I wrote you and Pooky off, but if he read, he would have seen that I was interacting with you and actively working on sorting you. Pooky is a whole other mess that I'm still trying to figure out, but Gamma completely ignored everything that I posted to do with you.

Then when I asked for time (because my insane work schedule being what it is), he told me that I had a "strict timetable" via 643 and that:

it's not negotiable that I won't look favorably on you if you fail to deliver before this bubble bursts

I'm not sure what I've done to be talked to like that, but I don't do anything for folks who are rude to me.

I don't think he realizes that I (like many others) work on sorting folks as I read and interact further, so his constant jump on me to provide him what I felt of you and Pooky (when I was working through, at least, one of you) is utter trash. I don't think he truly cared what I had to say and, like his pal Noraa, just ignored anything that I posted because it didn't suit his needs.

[Starbuck]

However, out of the 4 of you, Noraa was still the top of me and that's why my vote stayed.

[Starbuck]

I lead elims on scum, not on town.

Regardless, one still had to be eliminated as per the game mechanic. So why did it feel like you sat in the back seat all day?

I'd like to hear from each of the four about who should be yeeted and the bullet point case supporting that.

I'm about to head back out the door, but I'll rock this over the weekend since I have my first one off since like September.

i like that challenge

tbqh

Scum!

[Starbuck]

Quick catch up before I start deep diving ISOs.

agar is my first choice from the pool, I still think his noraa read was very unnatural

What was unnatural about it?

this is a Bad Take, an Easy Yeet for Scum to Push and also Very Lazy

Same could be said about those pushing AGar.

You’re talking about UT questioning Agars easy push are you not?

That was not my interpretation of what he said, but if that is true, it is an incredibly lame point to make. Not do I think it is even true necessarily.

Cakez has been working on his case, we’ll get it about the time the vaccine is available to the general public

Lol


Anyhow, if you can't remember anything lillith has done, isn't that more scum indicative than anything? That's my entire problem with her.

I don’t like vp’s response to this conversation with notsci. not sure exactly what about it feels off but I almost feel like his intention was never to actually engage on whether agar pushing me was easy (which it is, because I think I have the lowest number of posts out of the remaining 3) but rather just to make UT look bad

That's quite a misrep of what happened.

[Starbuck]

HOLIDAYS. Hi. I'm the worst and will get back with it tomorrow.