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[Flavor Leaf]

I have a crush on the character Annie Edison (i mean, most do) so this is going to be weird.

Also, I think this is the thread I am in?

So, we’re split into two threads, Inverted and Forward, and we have multiple types of votes.

[Flavor Leaf]

Heya boon!
Incidentally i think your slot is >rand scum!

Well, that is definitely something to note from you.

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I think I’ve read the rules enough, but it’s a lot of rules, and short attention span.

Should I read the game or play from the present?

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Oh is that Noraa

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I will do that

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First off, why is Annie trying to get to the other thread?

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Before looking, what are people’s reads in regards to Skitter?

Entrance alone, I think Cabd and SS are both town.

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Hench Princess over there is probably town.

I think I wanna try and veto the Annie Edison switch. Expecting her to get upset, but I feel she probably feels safer over there than here.

I actually trust that side a lot, but it’s still Day 1, so it’ll take a second of time.

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Boon- illicit FL rule is why.

Yes, that promise.

I was the leading wagon for a while and it was all kinds of sketchy, (skitter, Noraa, gamma) I think has two scum in it

Yeah, Skitter pinging me hard, but last time she pinged me, she was an IC.

Then I replaced into a scum game of hers during an end day, didn’t catch up in time, and got night killed.

[Flavor Leaf]

that is both great and concerning given i gave the slot >rand chance of being scum

Heya boon!
Incidentally i think your slot is >rand scum!

This looks like it was a very specific way of wording it, which makes me believe scum want this to be gamefic, that uncrowned was greater than >rand chance of being scum, which they made 1 post, how are they any more rand chance.

[Flavor Leaf]

What’s the illicit FL rule?

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Yeah, Skitter pinging me hard, but last time she pinged me, she was an IC.

Then I replaced into a scum game of hers during an end day, didn’t catch up in time, and got night killed.

Wait which one is the latter

I wasn’t in it long enough to remember because you killed me. Didn’t wanna worry about me and my flipping of reads.

[Flavor Leaf]

By D3.

Oh we don’t fade me anymore, new rule.

I’m always town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Alright, i have those base level reads, I’ll probably go about and read parts of the thread over the day.

Keep Annie in this thread.

[Flavor Leaf]

that is both great and concerning given i gave the slot >rand chance of being scum

Heya boon!
Incidentally i think your slot is >rand scum!

This looks like it was a very specific way of wording it, which makes me believe scum want this to be gamefic, that uncrowned was greater than >rand chance of being scum, which they made 1 post, how are they any more rand chance.

I mean i said this several hours ago, well before you repped in. I think uncrowned would have actuallly posted something as town. It is just a bit more than >rand, and tbh i said that more cuz it would give u something to latch onto, which would in turn give me something i can read (probably)

He must have had something going on.

[Flavor Leaf]

Can’t really defend more than that, unfortunate if you are scum here because it was a good push on the slot.

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UNVOTE: Turnstile: Firebringer

This is how we do this, right?

I think Annie’s got a higher >rand chance at wanting to switch over because they are scum.

I think the threat they switch over and end up in the council running the thread over there is decently high, so seems like a seemingly dangerous switch.

[Flavor Leaf]

Sb9 puts their foot down and pushes PL, he’s not new.

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I’m not sold on sending FB, I’m just paranoid of Annie now at this point. Bell could be a decent person to send over. Cabd-FL-Bell has been a trio in a few games recently, so I think that could be a decent move.

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I’m not sold on sending FB, I’m just paranoid of Annie now at this point. Bell could be a decent person to send over. Cabd-FL-Bell has been a trio in a few games recently, so I think that could be a decent move.

why r u scared of sending a scum over to them?

If I were scum, I’d want to be sent over here.

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flavor were u keeping up with the game prior to subbing in? it feels like u are situationally aware more than someone who just openned the thread.

Nah, i still haven’t read more than some pages here and there.

I’m just analyzing what the gamestate feels like to me from a fresh perspective.

Like i don’t know the story that brought us here, but i see the finished product. (For this moment in time)

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Flavor why are you ignoring me

Cuz you’re scum, i just didn’t want to burst your bubble yet

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wait if u want scum to be sent over here. Then us sending a scum over to them should be goood?

I don’t really have a preference of sending anyone over or what not, but i specifically think AnnieScum wants to get sent over because she can lead more actively over there.

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I’m not fully opposed to sending Annie, I’m just piecing things together.

@Hench - Can you see ScumAnnie wanting to be transferred over because the player list suits her better than this one will?

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I think OMGUS is kind of the natural thing to do in Noraa's spot?

She OMGUS’d me in Xenoblade as well.

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Here’s the thing, scum already can be in a game with 4 scum based on throes draft lists, so if scum can get one of their 2 over, that game can hard be manipulated by scum, and the other game can have 1 scum sitting pretty like a lone wolf, which creates hard associations.

That would be the idea for me if I were scum, get sent over. Even if it’s 3-3 now, getting sent over creates that 4-2.

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Ok so the scum team is Flavor/Annie/___ from our side ?

if u omgus everyone of ur reads im gonna stop defending u. This is fucking annoying.

Well I'm not calling peta scum. Or the wine glass one

Not a point in your favor, really.

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Here’s the thing, scum already can be in a game with 4 scum based on throes draft lists, so if scum can get one of their 2 over, that game can hard be manipulated by scum, and the other game can have 1 scum sitting pretty like a lone wolf, which creates hard associations.

That would be the idea for me if I were scum, get sent over. Even if it’s 3-3 now, getting sent over creates that 4-2.

i dont think this is how scum are thinking tbh

You think a 6 man scum team wouldn’t discuss the best ways of being sent over or not, or if they even should?

They might not be thinking of the exactness of all of that, but they definitely would think about it.

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I think OMGUS is kind of the natural thing to do in Noraa's spot?

She OMGUS’d me in Xenoblade as well.

Boon I’m not only one of the primary Noraa pushers- I’m also the counter wagon to Noraa and she’s been OMGUSing and refusing to explain her read on me all day. The entire cohort on both sides is townreading me. Get with the ducking program.

What does this have to do with anything?

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also skitter how do u think my buss of u is going? I think we are fooling them really well.

To be fair, i wanted to send you over to the other thread, and I scum read Skitter.

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I don’t expect me to be able to read Spiffeh entirely accurate, so I have no opinions on that read.

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@Brian Skies - why do you not want town to be sent over? With little information like this, scum can completely abuse getting switched over.

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Flavor Leaf is missing the rule where if one thread loses all their scum by Night 2 or before, then that entire thread becomes modconfirmed town.

So while yes scum can stack one side, that lone wolf side is at heavy risk of blowing it for their team.

WHAT A GOOD POINT FROM MY SCUMFRIEND BRIAN SKIES.

this is why you are friends with ur enemies people. They have good insights and are very smart.

Nah, if there’s a scum in the thread, it doesn’t matter. Scum would have 5 others in the other thread, so they’d be able to control stuff.

Also, you missed the part I said they could be 3-3 trying to get to the 4-2.

I don’t think they’re anywhere near in danger of having that happen.

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@Brian Skies - why do you not want town to be sent over? With little information like this, scum can completely abuse getting switched over.

does it even matter how many scum are where?

Yes.

[Flavor Leaf]

I like Firebringer for town.

I’m willing to send Annie over, but yeah, don’t let her run the town over there.

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Even if it’s 3-3 now, getting sent over creates that 4-2.

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if they want to go to 4-2 why not just set themselves up that wy to begin with. That doesnt make sense

Cuz they want to get sent over?

I don’t know. It’s a play that could be made. I’d probably wanna start 3-3, then transfer someone over when it feels safe.

Annie can be town just wanting to get sent over because she feels her voice will be heard more over there.

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okay but now ur confusing me on why they originally decided 3-3 now are like 4-2 when they could have done that to begin with

If they did the 4-2 to begin with, they would have an unbalanced game and a balanced game, which is can be extremely telling. I don’t necessarily think scum thought about it that much. 3-3 creates balance, and is more shiftable because you don’t limit yourself to only having 2 votes.

It could be played either way, just depends on what scum wanted to do. There are benefits to both ways.

I’m not overvaluing it, I’m just valuing it.

I feel most probably undervalued it.

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Brian’s my top scum read over there right now, but it’s not the same scumBrian I knew from years back, which gives me pause.

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I’m ambivalent towards Spiffeh being sent, but I guess I really don’t care all that much, I’m more just going over the possibilities.

UNVOTE: T - Annie

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UNVOTE: Peta

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@Super Bowl - I had similar concerns. Annie got sent, i think it’ll be fine to pay attention to what happens after.

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I’m semi mind melding with Titus, minus the HP read.

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reiterating for the other thread: i actually *do* have experience with a50 and you lot are scumreading him for things that are nai for him

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I’m town leaning A50 even

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Day 1, it doesn’t matter too much if it was the wrong move. More about the follow up.

And i was fighting against it, nobody seemed to care then.

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Skitter/Noraa is where I’m thinking scum are on this side right now.

VOTE: Peta

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i take it you see what i mean wrt fire?

I was trying to send Fire over.

Brian Skies made a comment vetoing it.

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I town read Fire. I was correct when I initially town read Fire in Xenoblade, even if he had the wrong read, and I started to flip later.

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If we send another player over, and they both were town, we have the potential to be in a 7-4 scenario, then elimination and kill, we can be in a 5-4 scenario Day 2.

I think we should hold off.

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Skitter/Noraa is where I’m thinking scum are on this side right now.

VOTE: Peta

were you hoping to get something out of me with that unvote?

Not necessarily you, but i just changed my mind

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If we send another player over, and they both were town, we have the potential to be in a 7-4 scenario, then elimination and kill, we can be in a 5-4 scenario Day 2.

I think we should hold off.

i'm telling you that it's suboptimal

Why

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I feel like it is optimal

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That’s what I would do.

And then town over there have a higher chance of misfading town.

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it's unfortunate for you that you're wrong then

I disagree. I feel that’s the reason ScumMe would be able to manipulate this game, I’m sure someone else could see the benefits from the scummposition.

Yes, it’s more bold, but it is not suboptimal for every combination of players.

Especially with 6 scum.

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I’m not voting for anyone to be sent over extra today, especially prior to getting someone sent here.

[Flavor Leaf]

Fine. Ya know what.

UNVOTE: Turnstile: Flavor Leaf

Send me over.

[Flavor Leaf]

I would rather send you to dead thread with all honesty

And remember your read on me when I actually was scum?

[Flavor Leaf]

sigh

Explain the sign please.

How come you and Super Bowl are better transfers than myself?

[Flavor Leaf]

I have multiple players over there I could benefit with more real time interaction, and this side Is. going to be constantly playing the devil’s advocate slot all over.

I think I’m a good slot to send over.

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You said you thought it was suboptimal for scum to be sent over right? This should ease you then, shouldn’t it?

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I would rather send you to dead thread with all honesty

And remember your read on me when I actually was scum?

It's not a read it's a playstyle difference

Hey, if i was town with you last game, I’d have policy faded Outer with you.

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You said you thought it was suboptimal for scum to be sent over right? This should ease you then, shouldn’t it?

I'm locktown

That’s fine, I’m not scum reading you.

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Annie Edison poor take on Unwnd noted.

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Turnstile me, this side will be hurt by having me over too long, either because you’ll misfade me, or we’ll get in a giant argument because of playstyle differences.

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Like I legit think that I’m the optimal turnstile now.

Cabd and Ffery can handle it over here once they can town read each other, and I’m going to cause noise over here distracting.

However, i trust they’ll both be able to see that I’m town, but this is more likely to go the way of Ilicit Substances than Xenoblade, not fully, because we have more experience with each other, but I’m not needed over here.

[Flavor Leaf]

Skitter is scum, why are we listening to scum?

@Titus - if Skitter gets sent over there, pressure them hard, please.

[Flavor Leaf]

Cabd and Ffery can handle it over here once they can town read each other,

Already there.

Awesome.

Do you see why I think it’s actually a pretty good idea for me to go over there?

I’m gonna end up hard tunneling Skitter in a second anyways, and that’s just gonna be annoying if i have to post it from here to get over there.

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If you’re softing PR and that’s the reason you should be sent over there, I hard disagree. That has little effect, and if you are PR, I think you are scumPR, thus making it so I want you switched even less.

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Yeah, yeah, Annie, i town read, you, it’s the profile pic.

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To be fair, it’s never safe to bring me to a Mason Day 1, i get it.

I challenged a mason pair and had 4 people calling out double scum last game, and still ended in a perfect victory.

I really wanted to misfade a mason.

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If you’re softing PR and that’s the reason you should be sent over there, I hard disagree. That has little effect, and if you are PR, I think you are scumPR, thus making it so I want you switched even less.

You still don't understand what those people are saying - they are vanilla here, but when they are sent over they become a PR

So? We can send them over tomorrow then.

You don’t know what I am.

Besides, I can work with half the player list over there really well, and here, I’m going to be in a 1 vs All scenario, where some people just plead the 5th.

[Flavor Leaf]

yeah basically
flavor can i present you with jazz mafia

I played a fantastic game in Jazz Mafia.

My Devil’s Advocate style wins games because even if I’m disagreeing with the main wagon, i will concurrently be able to create cases and gamestates where scum will end up being hit.

I also called out 3 scum correctly on Day 1 that game.

You are poorly discrediting, and I see why you have to. You are scum here playing a discredit route, which is exactly what you would do here as scum.

Similar thing happened in Detective Penguin.

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Me incorrectly pushing town badly = scum getting faded by way of me actually making a town case disguises as a scum case, even if it’s disguised to myself.

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UNVOTE: Skitter

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@Titus - they’re trying to get Skitter over to you to run that game, and discredit you.

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sigh

You’re gonna get tunneled by Titus over there, so you should get used to these sighs.

And you would also make these signs as scum.

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I have too many playstyle clashes over here.

Over there, I have people who can read me like A50/Hench, and I feel Annie can. We have SS who can read me over here, but that’s still a playstyle clash.

Ffery and I have playstyle clash.

Cabd and I sword fight unless the adventure lines up correctly like in Xenoblade.

Super Bowl is a policy voter, so obviously I’m gonna have a playstyle clash with him if he’s pushing me to dead thread.

I make sense to be sent over there.

Acting like there’s not at least a decent reason as to it is straight up incorrect.

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flavor my point is you did the exact same thing in jazz mafia and i was *checks notes* town there

pedit yes, let's just make a point of going to the other thread where people are actively calling for me to get yeeted for the lolz, i suppose

And did I misfade you there? Yes or no.

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We sure Flavor is town?

You’ve literally seen me act like this before, Midwaybear.

[Flavor Leaf]

It doesn’t matter if it’s a wrong read, if the journey ends at the right destination, it helps.

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I’d like to point out that I have only lost 2 town games all year, and even in both of those I had a correct solve in one, and vigged scum in the other. (Plus a banned user, so double points)

[Flavor Leaf]

Not to this extent I haven't

I’m April Ludgate, dude

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Super Bowl is a policy voter, so obviously I’m gonna have a playstyle clash with him if he’s pushing me to dead thread.

I make sense to be sent over there.

Don't misrep me like this I am not seriously pushing for your death at this moment, nor am I policy voting you unless you do something extremely stupid

Oh, then that’s dumb.

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I’m also not pushing you as scum either, so idk why it matters if i misrepped, it was clearly a misunderstanding

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flavor my point is you did the exact same thing in jazz mafia and i was *checks notes* town there

pedit yes, let's just make a point of going to the other thread where people are actively calling for me to get yeeted for the lolz, i suppose

And did I misfade you there? Yes or no.

no, you didnt, i died after having a perfect solve, remember?

and just *massive* sigh

And we had a town stomp?

Not sure what you’re trying to push here.

That was a good game for both of us, I caught A50 on their replace in that game.

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I’m also not pushing you as scum either, so idk why it matters if i misrepped, it was clearly a misunderstanding

It doesn't I'm just not letting you get away with bullshit, also I don't townread you

Yeah, you town read me when I’m scum, that’s a good sign

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I’m also not pushing you as scum either, so idk why it matters if i misrepped, it was clearly a misunderstanding

It doesn't I'm just not letting you get away with bullshit, also I don't townread you

Yeah, you town read me when I’m scum, that’s a good sign

We've played 3 games together....

Exactly, plenty for me to be able to read you correctly.

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i thought you were saying you misyeeted me there, when that was factually incorrect
and just like afioajfdoapjdpdpodwaoij

Specifically saying I didn’t.

Jazz Mafia was a top notch town game for me, just is harder for some people to see it than others.

Hench Princess has a scum read thought on you also, so I know I’m not totally far off.

Titus is pushing you as scum, also.

I’m not alone in this push.

[Flavor Leaf]

hrm? @superb
I have 0 idea what's going on atm, I just decided to post some since I was entering a lull in my games on main

Guy Fieri Is The Actual C(k)ing?

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I would be happy with a Pisskop turnstile, but he won’t be because more pages.

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I forgot Pisskop was over there as well, damn, that’s like a good player list for me to be with. Pisskop and I go almost 7 years back now.

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Yeah, Skitter can be town still, I’m not like 100%, it’s Day 1.

Skitter is normally high town read and does townie things as scum.

I played with her a decent amount when she was a newbie, and rolled scum with her when she was a newbie, and then saw her evolve over time, and I’m not bad at reading her. There’s a reason she night killed me without letting me get into the game the last time she was scum against me.

Also, Skitter was an IC once, unflipped, and I knew she was hiding something, and was correct in reading that as well.

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Yeah, Skitter can be town still, I’m not like 100%, it’s Day 1.

Skitter is normally high town read and does townie things as scum.

I played with her a decent amount when she was a newbie, and rolled scum with her when she was a newbie, and then saw her evolve over time, and I’m not bad at reading her. There’s a reason she night killed me without letting me get into the game the last time she was scum against me.

Also, Skitter was an IC once, unflipped, and I knew she was hiding something, and was correct in reading that as well.

Flavor i'm just going to go with :exasperated:
Why do you think i'm bringing up jazz mafia again ...

You act like it’s me not picking up on things, but it’s really you not picking up on things.

[Flavor Leaf]

Skitter is normally high town read and does townie things as scum.

yeah; all good players do, but that's a burden of proficiency argument that I don't want to go down. There's always a seam

-b

Remember how I was to Morph in Ilicit substances?

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I kinda like it over here now anyways. I’m nice and comfy.

Plus, if I’m over here, and the players who can get behind me are over there, there’s a lot of synergy, I feel.

I half don’t wanna eliminate Noraa, but like...

I think we just eliminate Noraa this day phase.

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I’m just gonna play the soul read town gamma card for now.

Keep in mind, i defended them in MBOS when they were scum.

But i think i still town read the slot based on wagonomics and their pop ins.

I don’t know the wagon stuff that well, however.

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Remember how I was to Morph in Ilicit substances?

annoying? i mean what you were was extremely inconsistent and conspiracy theorist and it was obviously driving ffery up the wall and I was pretty well able to hide in it at the time

I'm liking your entrance here overall but I'm not sure the point you're trying to make

-b

Yeah, you hid in it well, but you lost scum Day 2 and Day 3 because of it, then brought me to lylo with you.

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I’m just gonna play the soul read town gamma card for now.

Yall I am getting more and more convinced my solve is accurate

I understand what’s happening.

You have a common phenomenon known as “Flavor Fever”.

I used this as a scum tactic last game, and here I’ll use it as a town one.

You just got whooped by scum me (#humble) and you town read me when I was scum, so now you’re gonna have a hard time town reading me ever this game.

That’s fine.

[Flavor Leaf]

That movie doesn’t hold up.

Also, I think i wanna switch my Gamma read.

They’re probably scum because I read them as town.

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Thanks, Annie Bannanie.

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UNVOTE: GFITAC

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Also if if you'd like to go there you ragequit both games that I carried so we're 2-1 me

I only quit if I am about to get toxic, like MBOS.

And then I rolled 6 scum games in a row, a lot simultaneously back in like March? Then i just disappeared for 6 months, so I didn’t really play those nor do I remember any of those.

That’s been all my replace outs for the year, though. I think MBOS is the only one I quit out of me getting toxic, and i even called out exactly what was happening that game, but that’s just more of a Mastina can’t read me than anything.

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E-2 is just about perfect. No lolhammers while the forward timeline gets their shit together and sends us their poor.

FFS FL

You voted, which didn’t save them.

You needed to unvote. We good.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m just gonna play the soul read town gamma card for now.

Yall I am getting more and more convinced my solve is accurate

I understand what’s happening.

You have a common phenomenon known as “Flavor Fever”.

I used this as a scum tactic last game, and here I’ll use it as a town one.

You just got whooped by scum me (#humble) and you town read me when I was scum, so now you’re gonna have a hard time town reading me ever this game.

That’s fine.

No you just make sense as scum here. Unless the council has multiple scum this is the solve. The associatives are fitting perfectly as well - if you want to just call me feeble before your flavor might that's fine but it's not going to help me work with you

I mean, this is why I’m town, tbh

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Also if if you'd like to go there you ragequit both games that I carried so we're 2-1 me

I only quit if I am about to get toxic, like MBOS.

And then I rolled 6 scum games in a row, a lot simultaneously back in like March? Then i just disappeared for 6 months, so I didn’t really play those nor do I remember any of those.

That’s been all my replace outs for the year, though. I think MBOS is the only one I quit out of me getting toxic, and i even called out exactly what was happening that game, but that’s just more of a Mastina can’t read me than anything.

Sounds to me like you're experiencing superbowl syndrome but okay

If that means if there were a Super Bowl for mafia, I’d have won multiple, yes, you are correct.

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none of this is helpful

-b

I’m actually getting a rather strong town read on a super because of it.

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@Imperium - I’m just poking the bear. I both conceded in sending Annie over, and dropped my Skitter tunnel, so

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E-2 is just about perfect. No lolhammers while the forward timeline gets their shit together and sends us their poor.

FFS FL

You voted, which didn’t save them.

You needed to unvote. We good.

reverse timeline bud.

So I need to vote Gamma?

VOTE: GFITC

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I would put Imperium as a lean scum.

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The post they made @ me was kinda really weak, and past the time considering i flipped on both of those, but I can see them making it as town regardless.

If it was scum, it was a safe scum post to make.

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Yeah you put him at E-1 with your unvote.

Please familiarize yourself with how the damn votes work here on the dark side.

Oh, yeah, that’s what I meant to do.

I do know the votes, you posted and made me second guess.

UNVOTE: GFITC

I specifically stated the real reason to you, that’s somewhat a weak response by you then.

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Yeah, I don’t really want Imperium in the purple room either.

Also, don’t send me there ever, because people will push it like I am scum since I’m a master of neighborhoods.

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Yeah you put him at E-1 with your unvote.

Please familiarize yourself with how the damn votes work here on the dark side.

Oh, yeah, that’s what I meant to do.

I do know the votes, you posted and made me second guess.

UNVOTE: GFITC

I specifically stated the real reason to you, that’s somewhat a weak response by you then.

LET THE OTHER THREAD FINISH THEIR TURNSTILE SHIT BEFORE WE ELIM.

Once we elim their clock goes to 48 hours.

Oh, then we should end the day, and force them to finish.

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imperium + cabd for purple room imo

Cabd is probably the play here, but like, if they’re scum together, you just let them run the game.

Not worth that risk, tbh.

I would say send Bell-Cabd.

I don’t like the idea of sending two possible town leaders into it in the case scum has a powerscum roll

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The post they made @ me was kinda really weak, and past the time considering i flipped on both of those, but I can see them making it as town regardless.

If it was scum, it was a safe scum post to make.

this isn't a reason for imperium scum

-b

I specifically made comments for a town possibility and a scum possibility.

This is strike 2 for you on poor callouts.

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I specifically don’t want Cabd and Imperium in the purple room, actually.

I don’t have a strong enough town read on Cabd to be comfortable on that, and Bork is giving me bad vibes here.

Super, I’m town here, can we just say fuck it and town block for now?

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I specifically made comments for a town possibility and a scum possibility.

This is strike 2 for you on poor callouts.

no fucking shit, it's not a reason for them being scum though

-b

Never said it was.

Specifically said if.

I also don’t believe one thing makes someone scum, it’s the collection of things. A townie move can end up being a complete scum move if the chain indicates that it should.

Widow maker can be used well on offense if done right, but they were a defense character for a reason prior to the combination.

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I specifically don’t want Cabd and Imperium in the purple room, actually.

I don’t have a strong enough town read on Cabd to be comfortable on that

okay but ceph is town.

and imperium is also town.

how do we fix ur reads

Like Sircakez was town in Xenoblade, right?

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Bell I see you and I’m very excited to be on your side please come say hi

hi.

Is imperium scum.

We are the pinnacle of town.

FLAVOR LEAF LOOK AT THIS POST AND TELL ME ITS MADE BY SCUM!!!!

You make some good points. I wish Bork would make some points like this.

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Never said it was.

Specifically said if.

Ok fucking great

I want to talk about actual reasons and that isn't one. What are they?

-b

For what? Imperium scum? Why would there be any actual reasons for them to be scum right now if they're scum?

VOTE: GFITAC

They're town.

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Like I don't know how you got to "this isn't a reason for calling someone scum" (which you're acknowledging - we're both on the same page here, yeah) to "bad callout"

I want to know why you think imperium is scum.

-b

I think they could be scum. It's probably like 35% right now.

You look like you're just saying stuff to say stuff because you know I don't have a full read on Imperium. I've barely read any of their posts, and I'm aware I leaned scum on them in Xenoblade when they're town, so I don't want them faded or anything today.

It feels like you might be trying to take advantage of my ping on a townie Imperium now, but I don't feel like swordfighting with Cabd right now if I push your slot, plus I don't really remember what town you is like, if I've even ever seen it, so I don't know if it's something you would do as scum, but I don't wanna use meta that hard anyways, I'm just stating what I see.

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superb I wanna ask how you read me in donner party real quick
because I know you were correct in mbos10 but I obvscummed by pushing your mason buddy
so I find it RIDICULOUSLY strange you have this confidence level when I've done nothing of the sort to incur that sort of opinion of me
Like, you say your read on me is all this game, but I have not done SHIT this game. So your confidence seems SUPER FORCED.

You haven't done shit this game so you're not helpful even if you're town, thus I don't mind elimming you. That is my biggest motivator but you also have acted a little bit scummy. Also it fits my herosolve

Your hero solves wrong, but that's fine. I expect you to have completely off Day 1 reads, but maybe be able to catch a scum Day 3 or so.

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i feel like i might stop reading other thread. they keep screaming nora is scum and i just don't feel like listening to it.
like a recorder on repeat.

well, Noraa is scum, sorry.

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i feel like i might stop reading other thread. they keep screaming nora is scum and i just don't feel like listening to it.
like a recorder on repeat.

well, Noraa is scum, sorry.

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You look like you're just saying stuff to say stuff because you know I don't have a full read on Imperium. I've barely read any of their posts

I WANT TO SEND TOWN TO THE PURPLE ROOM

YOU SAID YOU HAD A SCUM LEAN ON IMPERIUM

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU SEE

I AM NOT PUSHING YOU

HOLY FUCK

-BEE

lol, fake.

I don't town read Imperium, you're acting like I have to see things in black and white. If anything my read on Imperium is more advanced at this point than a straight town or scum read, which is just a general respect for a scum game, ya know

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skitter is scum

THANK YOU!

where was my thank you.

did you miss me tunneling skitter?

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@Unwnd - It's not that easy to get a Skitter fade Day 1 here if she is scum. I actually expect it to be impossible here without a good case, which there isn't.

I can see them being town here, but I do see their scum potential a lot, I just am not going to be able to get enough pressure there to dive deeper right now, tbh.

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@SB - Scum skitter is town read by players like you. That's almost a tell I had on Skitter at one point because people who played town "the correct way or how it should be played" town reads ScumSkitter, which is interesting that Unwnd is scum reading them, because you guys have some similarities.

noted.

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UNVOTE: Purple Room: Something Smart

If Imperium is going in, I don't want Cabd. I admit that I could just be paranoid of Cabd-Imperium being double scum, but it's enough where I'm gonna fight it. Not worth the risk.

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I don't town read Imperium, you're acting like I have to see things in black and white

Ok moving on; you're clearly uninterested in answering what I asked and I'm fucking bewildered at the behavior

-b

Nah, you're just actively making more of it than need be.

I've stated my read, and my exact thoughts on Imperium, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not there.

I have zero interest in pushing a scum case on Imperium, and the post they made was about me after I had already flipped away, so you are purposefully being obnoxious with it, possibly to distract me? I don't know. Regardless, I have no interest in casing Imperium right now. I want more chain links to read them. I haven't had to read them many times over my years here.

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UNVOTE: Peta

Very amusing that Flavor is going around voting people that are TRing me showing how strong his SR on me is yet his vote is not on me. PFFT.

Can we kill this slot today?

Nah, I'm a PR.

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Also note Noraa in xenoblade tried to shade me after I called them out Day 1.

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superb I wanna ask how you read me in donner party real quick
because I know you were correct in mbos10 but I obvscummed by pushing your mason buddy
so I find it RIDICULOUSLY strange you have this confidence level when I've done nothing of the sort to incur that sort of opinion of me
Like, you say your read on me is all this game, but I have not done SHIT this game. So your confidence seems SUPER FORCED.

You haven't done shit this game so you're not helpful even if you're town, thus I don't mind elimming you. That is my biggest motivator but you also have acted a little bit scummy. Also it fits my herosolve

Is your hero solve mostly PoE? Also you realize the number of scum this game ISN'T FIXED? So assuming you have THE EXACT SOLVE is riding a very fine line between deathly arrogant and straight-up scum indicative.
How have I acted scummy so far, as well?

He's a policy fader at the expense of his life type of player.

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I've stated my read, and my exact thoughts on Imperium, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not there.

you continue to somehow miscontrue the point of my asking you and my suspension of disbelief only goes so far

-b

yeah, but you know how people say there are no bad questions? Well, you're isn't bad, it's just irrelevant. There isn't an answer to it.

It's like..."Why do you say the new Taika Waititi Star Wars movie is good?"

Well, I haven't seen it, but considering what I know of Taika's ability to write and understands deeper meaning discussion and art and knows how to translate it to a fun, subliminal film medium.

Like, yeah, Imperium can't be cased as scum right now, but you're just either blindly attacking because of personal dynamics or scum thinking they found something to hang onto.

Either way, this became boring after I answered the first time.

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Imperium just stated they're gonna win "this time" brother, but they won the last time.

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but you're just either blindly attacking

i'm...not...atta

whatever

i dont have the attention span for this type of thing is all.

If I'm missing something, it's because we just aren't lined up is all.

I don't town read Imperium. I'm likely to investigate the slot if I were a PR, especially if they go to purple room

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i'm a little worried about Flavor in that he seems ardently determined to miss the point of my conversation with him earlier; on the other hand 2324 maybe contained a passive final admission that he didn't know what i was trying to get at w/ the imperium talk.

i don't fucking know

-b

Nah, you’re the one that missed it.

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Good, IC claim. no need to worry about that stuff, and now they're more likely to get protected.

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Turnstile me, this side will be hurt by having me over too long, either because you’ll misfade me, or we’ll get in a giant argument because of playstyle differences.

or ... we could just .... yeet you to the sun.

Idk if Uncrowned hates scum or not but one post and no attempt to catch up is not what I expect from him.

this is my slot, not uncrowneds. He made 1 post.

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Good, IC claim. no need to worry about that stuff, and now they're more likely to get protected.

AND U WERE WORRIED IMPERIUM!

As I should have been.

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Good, IC claim. no need to worry about that stuff, and now they're more likely to get protected.

AND U WERE WORRIED IMPERIUM!

As I should have been.

Actually, @Skitter - This game look similar to you now? I pushed an IC because I was correct yet again that they were hiding something, and being off because of it.

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what does that have to do with anything? It's just an interesting factoid.

I could get you to town read me when I'm scum, you think I should just stop? I'm putting more stuff out so more people can town case me.

I personally think I'm blatantly town this game thus far, and the gamestate around this game assists, but I'm obv biased.

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Good, IC claim. no need to worry about that stuff, and now they're more likely to get protected.

AND U WERE WORRIED IMPERIUM!

As I should have been.

Actually, @Skitter - This game look similar to you now? I pushed an IC because I was correct yet again that they were hiding something, and being off because of it.

why u asking a scumread to back u up

it's the most fun

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I thought the point of the interesting factoid is that u thought i should be townreading you off of it

nah, you should be townreading me for a plethora of reasons, as you are, that's just another that can be used so other people can.

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if you're scum, you essentially have to announce the resemblance of the two, which backs up me being town, and if you're town, no harm, no foul, same thing.

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just trying to party, but my party people are in the other thread.

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eh, if Imperium revealed because of my push on them, it's kinda eh, I obviously haven't played with them that much so a ping off of one post seemed like a bit of an overreaction.

It's good for the gamestate, though, and it'll WIFOM scum to protect, so happy sending Cabd to purple room now.

UNVOTE: Purple: Cabd

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just trying to party, but my party people are in the other thread.

You have about 150 posts in 7 hours since you joined this game.

Do you believe this is conducive to helping town win this game?

I had a lot of work to do considering uncrowned had 1 post. Thanks for noticing it.

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same.

Welcome to the town block.

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We got FB, we got LLD, we got FL, we got GFITAC.

Annie, we got Hench. Imperium can join, I guess.

I'm liking where we're at so far.

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Hench and I are essentially Masons.

I have the same read on A50 as you do, like the exact same, which I feel is a good sign that it's town A50.

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i dont know what titus means by town you isn't careless tbh. She said your interactions with superbowl was funky. I thought "maybe i should reread that" to say ive been conned of that is a bit excessive.

me?

Titus is in a weird spot with regarding reading me right now, I don't think I'm the best to read her right now either because of it.

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I'm really just gonna take Cabd's word for TownDeacon, and if they're scum, deal with it later.

However this seems like a game where I get night killed early, then everyone pushes it away as nothing

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We got FB, we got LLD, we got FL, we got GFITAC.

Annie, we got Hench. Imperium can join, I guess.

I'm liking where we're at so far.

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I'm really just gonna take Cabd's word for TownDeacon, and if they're scum, deal with it later.

However this seems like a game where I get night killed early, then everyone pushes it away as nothing

Deacon is scum on my list and Cabd!hydra is town on my list.

So I'm literally in this same position. I want to kill Deacon but I'm not in the practice of forcing votes past strong town reads day 1, tbh.

Yeah, it's fine. I have the same reads, but Cabd being town read is why I'm willing to trust it for now. Cabd, if scum, will have to take care of it one way or another if we're wrong there, but I think I should be able to read him correctly, and I'm scumreading Bork specifically in Deacon.

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Annie town reads Deacon, so like I said, for me, two players I'm town reading, even if cabd i have some paranoia, is worth me trusting on a Day 1.

Deacon's posts to me during the Imperium thing just felt like sticky scum, latching onto me and discrediting me, in a way it could very much be TMI'ing Imperium as town.

Great invest slot, tbh.

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I use meta correctly.

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I *

ab

use meta correctly.

sorry, fixed.

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I feel like Cabd is generally pretty good at reading the head.

Is ffery possible to be able to pocket Cabd? I won't put too much stock in Day 1 pockets or not pockets, actually.

I'm ready to change off this topic, tbh. Deacon's not on the table today, and I'm okay with that.

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@Imperium - Yeah, and I said it, he just wanted more, and I didn't have more to give. He was asking to buy 5 chocolate chip cookies, but I only had 2 to sell, and that was unacceptable to them.

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i don't think that's AI of SS, and usually ScumthingSmart pings me hard, not town reading by anymeans, but I typically don't like voting SS this early in a game, if only because if we get to like Day 3 together, we're likely going to become lock town to each other.

One of us usually end up being night killed early in games we're in together because the other is scum who kills the other, or scum need to break us up because they can't have both of us running around doing wtfery. His wtfery is just more under the radar than mine.

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They were getting some pings by myself and Deacon, then I came back and they were flipped.

I'm lean towning on Unwnd as well. I've slightly liked the majority of their posts, and it feels similar to how I felt in Day 2 of Xenoblade. I wouldn't bet Cabd's chickens on this one, though.

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my thing with Noraa is it feels like she's just fake here. Her reads. Like she's trying to happily sit in someone else's pocket as scum.

I just don't believe they believe anything they say here, and that's how I felt with Xenoblade. I have more, but I don't expect to be able to talk about it until mid-late game, which I doubt we'll need.

I didn't read Death Curse, nor do I plan on ever. Seems long.

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i don't think that's AI of SS, and usually ScumthingSmart pings me hard, not town reading by anymeans, but I typically don't like voting SS this early in a game, if only because if we get to like Day 3 together, we're likely going to become lock town to each other.

I was legit scared of something smart at times on D1 in illicit and I thought he was effectively picking at everything that was even slightly inconsistent or suspciously not-scumhunty of me in that game

I don't feel like he's doing that to people here

-b

Hypothetically, you'd be coming from a town perspective here, right? Because I don't remember SS being a big part of that Day 1 either, except the early game.

If you're town, you're coming from a different perspective here, and this game's just bigger than that one, and just started. I think it's fair to wait a bit. They're not not going to post.

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alright, time to do it.

FLIP ME MOD

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What do LLD and SS have to do with each other here?

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What do LLD and SS have to do with each other here?

Nothing I was asking about noraa

-b

I was responding to Titus, I should have said so.

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Oh wow, I definitely didn't read the last half of your post, Titus.

Fair, I'll move past it.

I'm not saying SS isn't scum here, I just don't have any reason to think he's scum over town here at the moment. I see what you're saying, though, Deacon.

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Noraa-Midwaybear seems too easy, but I might be leaning scum on both of them.

Midwaybear could be town, though, I just thought their comments earlier coming at me when they "forgot I was April Ludgate" is kind of weird, but they did turn their thoughts around. Maybe I town read Midwaybear here because of it.

I feel bad if Noraa is town, hell I feel bad if Noraa is scum here, but I think they're scum, and probably should be the fade today.

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Didn't Nacho town read Noraa Day 1 in Xenoblade too, or is that wrong?

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I don't like the range comment when going to town read Noraa over there, because I heard people talk highly of Noraa's scum game, but I don't really have meta on it, and their entry to Xenoblade I was able to see them as scum immediately, and that came after.

I have more, but [redacted]. @Hench

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I think there's 4 scum over there, 2 over here based on the games themselves. town are likely going after each other all over here, and scum control over there, so townies have less to say.

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Noraa/Skitter? Maybe.

Not actually 100% on either, probably more around 35% with Skitter, 55% Noraa.

Made those percentages up, but yeah.

I'm going to do what I do best, and yeah, that will annoy some townies, dont get me wrong, but scum gonna feel my thorns.

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LAST NIGHT TOMORROW

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HELLLLLLLOOOOOOO

TOWNIES OF TENET

:

TENET FO SEINWOT

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This is your hostess with the mostess, the only LEAF THAT BRINGS THE BEEF

FLAVORRRRRRRRRR

Firebringer

- feels same as Xenoblade, and I like a lot of their takes. They might be wrong, but I think they're genuine here. I think my conversations with them have been good, and I don't think they'd attempt to pocket me here. Last time I thought they might, I was wrong, so I'm going to trust that read here.

Lady Lambdadelta

- I really liked when Firebring-LLD-FL triangle was going, I felt like we were on the same page. I didn't think anything was malicious, and I was happy to call this a town block. LLD acted exactly how I expected townLLD to act, a decent amount of aggro, one or two different reads, but really not pushing anything super hard. Maybe confidence in their read, but I wouldn't say they're trying to power tunnel anywhere. Not to say they wouldnt if given the chance, but yeah.

Superbowl9

- I kind of expect them to scum read me here, especially since I just fooled them as scum, and I understand their read and their hero solve, it's just not correct. I also expect them to have incorrect reads, but I believe they believe they are correct. Lean town.

midwaybear

- I made a possible scum case with Midway a little while ago, but I convinced myself there that them forgetting then changing their read on me once they remembered I'm April makes sense coming from town. Scum didn't have to change that. It's actually the most connected comment I think I've had with Midway.

Dandelion Wine (Cephrir/Cabd)

- Nothing's stood out negatively for me. I liked what I saw and seemed genuine. Not my most complex read, but it's one I'm happy with. If something pings me, I'll look into it of course, but yeah.

GFITAC (Gamma Emerald/Dr Easy Bake)

- I pushed a town read, then a scum read, then a town read. I think my initial defense on them made me lean scum on them, but I am back to town reading them because I liked their pop ins. I also think they were extremely close to being faded, and I think that's town indicative based on how it all happened.

Something_Smart

- True Newch. Some people think they're scummy, I havent seen enough of them to know one way or another.

Petapan

- There's been some stuff that pings me, I voted them earlier. I don't know them, though, so I'm still figuring out if they could do this as scum. I understand their posts, though, even though I have a good amount of disconnect with them. Slightly scummy, but neutral really.

Deacon Blues (fferyllt/borkjerfkin)

- Bork was scummy during the Imperium talk. they wanted 5 cookies, I only had 2, then they stuck on it. I also have multiple reads that are directly contradicting with them, so this is a lean scum.

skitter30

- Can't shake this. Skitter was directly going against me, and her town reading me is the exact defense I'd expect her to use as scum against me pushing her specifically because I pushed her that one time when she was IC, which I knew she was actively lying and hiding something. I believe she had claimed Vanilla there even before, but maybe I'm making that last part up, I don't know. I don't like the discussion I had with her. I can see her as town, but something in my gut is screaming something's going on there.

upside down sinkhole (Noraa/JacksonVirgo)

- Scum entry, I don't believe they believe anything they said, and they're trying to find that spot in the game they fit, and I just think that's incredibly scum indicative for her. I could be wrong this time, whereas last time, I really didn't think I was, so food for thought.

Overall, I believe there is specifically not 4 scum in this game, 2 or 3. I might eventually make one of these for the other game.

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Will Cabd prove to be incorrect and pocketed by the Deacon hydra?

Will Something_Smart continue to not have much of a voice and stay true NEWCH?

Can Noraa convince people to believe that she is not scum here?!?!?

Find out next time...on

LAST NIGHT TOMORROW!!!!

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Pooky's probably scum over there.

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Look, here's the thing, I think there's 2 scum in this game based on it feeling like a bunch of TvT swordfights, which means I have at least 4 town reads correct.

And that's the minimum.

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Something Smart moves up from Newch to the color of Gamma, same spot.

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now at least 5 town reads correct.

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Hero solve

Noraa, Deacon, Titus, Pooky, Brian Skies, and let's just throw Spiffeh in there to round it all out.

Spiffeh/Brian my weaker reads right on that right now.

[Flavor Leaf]

i called Bork out as scum in one of my first posts in that game, but then I town blocked them for a bit, knowing scum was in my town block.

I wonder if I'm correct here then too.

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@Titus - if you think the read list is poor, I would like comments on these 4 slots, please.

Superbowl9
midwaybear
Dandelion Wine (Cephrir/Cabd)
GFITAC

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For the record bork, I think using one-game meta from a much different game where you were scum and I died N1 is tenuous at best. If you're serious about meta, I just had a scumgame end. Though I haven't done much yet, there are differences.

I think they're scum, I'm just not interested in fighting that fight today. It ends in my misfade.

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@Unwnd - I'll try to do it in a few hours, if not, tomorrow. I need to check up on that game a bit more. Do you understand why I think there's 4 scum in your game, though, at least?

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slow your roll dude. listen to others who actually know how to read me (which it seems you're doing, at least)

Yeah, I always do. I think this is a weird comment because I've been stating for a while my willingness to trust both Cabd read and Annie read on you right now.

It doesn't change the fact I read you as scum, and it doesn't make me correct.

This is a good segue to the post I was about to make on Peta.

I lean scum on peta, but I gut feel they are town, so even though I see them as scummy, something there is telling me they're probably town.

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@Unwnd - I'll try to do it in a few hours, if not, tomorrow. I need to check up on that game a bit more. Do you understand why I think there's 4 scum in your game, though, at least?

it'll give people time to react to it anyways, and I'll go accordingly.

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I think this is a weird comment

you're needling me about being scum constantly, and you're reading me for a thing I've tried to explain, NachoTammy has told you you're wrong about, and you just don't seem to be listening to anyone about and that's frustrating for me.

-b

Nacho/muffin hydra was wrong about like 2-3 scum in Xenoblade, why is that a reasoning? they're also now in the IC perspective, so their reads are gonna get skewed.

I think they'll have some right reads, and some wrong reads. I'm not even pushing you. I'm actively stating I'm happy to not fade you today.

Making this waaaay bigger than it needs to be. It feels like youre trying to actually have me engage you so that I lose some momentum.

Also @Skitter - people are chopping at me from all over, you said you felt the same way, if you are town, then this scum team has solid synergy in regards to discrediting and defending, and making things happen.

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like all i've tried to do is tell you you're wrong about something and it's turned into something i feel i cannot communicate with you about and i don't like it.

-b

I'm not opposed to being wrong, especially Day 1.

You expect me to stay with these reads all game? I even stated my highest scum read is only like 60%. I see that I can be wrong there.

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Deacon feels like they're hatcheting me so hard, I'm actively not trying to engage the slot because I don't want to fight with ffery.

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engage, I mean engage in combat, not discussion.

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You keep implying i'm not listening to what you say, but I've read like all of it. It's scummy looking, it can be wrong, I see that.

I don't agree with other reads on you either, and I'm not in sync with reads with Imperium at all this game. Just because they're conf town, doesn't mean their reads are correct. They can be correct, and that is taken into consideration. If I feel they're more likely to be correct than myself, I will look into it more.

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@Titus - what was your read of Superbowl in that last game?

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this looks exactly like the Superbowl I got a fully town misfade wagon on.

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YEAH HENCH! Lead that Pooky wagon, it'll confirm me as town too. Haha.

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@SS - think I'm way off this game or partially off?

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I have the same reads there as LLD

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and y'all made me mad in 230.

but good job, been a minute since I was a day 1 misfade, I got hyena'd there.

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Hmm, my town game actually held up pretty well in hindsight in large 230. I had 2 out of scum when I was misfaded, and it's cuz I got hyena'd. You guys spent a lot of effort doing that, but it gave town a lot of actions to read and solidify in their night actions. Nice. Another town game in the win column this year. This is one of my strongest town years, I think.

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I had that one misplay where Ydrasse got away from me, but that won't ever happen again. It was just my first experience with ydrasse, johnny, battle mage, taylor.

You know what, imma trust my gut this game.

Pooky's scum.

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PART II

Hench Princesses

- I feel like the amount they're town reading me or appearing to town read me doesn't come from scum. This is an insanely weird pocket to make if scum, it's a non zero chance that it's happening, but I feel like that's too risky of a play for them to make because I would catch it? Yeah, I think they're town, they have the same reads as me. If they are scum, they are probably scum with Gamma, but yeah, this is a high town read for me.

Annie Edison

- I was a bit iffy with the switch at first, but I've grown to like it, and I think they're probably town indicative because of it. It's possible I'm being pocketed, but I generally understand what they've been saying, and I felt a mindmeld similar to I did in xenoblade 2 day 2. I easily town read Bulge in Ilicit as well, and became essentially masons with them, so I like this pairing.

unwnd

- Town reading here strongly. I've agreed with some of their takes, and now that I know what their personality is like from Xenoblade, I think this is right in line with town them. I've never seen scum them, though, but I genuinely feel good about this slot. I like that they wanted me to make one of these for this town, meaning they saw some good usage of it, which implies a bit of mind meld.

Almost50

- A50 has an agenda when they are scum. I'm usually pretty good at seeing it too. The fact that Hench had the same read here of thinking A50 is town, but not entirely sure, also makes me more okay with A50. Overtime, this one should be an easy read slot anyways.

Bell

- eh, town. My experience with Bell is he's town, and floats around to the people pushing the game, giving their thoughts, being a reflector, don't see anything different here. I feel I should be able to read them pretty easily if I'm wrong.

Gypyx

- Their small amount of posts I read seemed townie. They seem like a slot that scum is going to try to misfade eventually, and keep there as an eventual misfade, or possible wagon, and it might go through. Probably a misfade this game, which is why I am lean town, if that makes sense. I don't know how else to describe this.

pisskop

- not quite newch, not quite town, but I think the catchup thing is townie ish. scumpisskop can easily get through that, but they said they were excited in the first page, and really, I don't think Pisskop says that if he is actually scum and excited. This is a bad reasoning, and a bad slot, but I like that they're getting thought to switch over, and I might be okay with that. Possibly could be Spiffeh-Pisskop, though.

Imperium

- true newch, even if IC

zmuffinman

- true newch

Shellyc

- true newch

Spiffeh

- This could go either way, but I think I want to lean scum, if only because they fit in a slot where they make sense as like the 6th member, but in a non tiered scum team. They ask a lot of questions, and I think they're kind of fluffy. I don't know them that well, though, so maybe this is town indicative. I don't understand why they are the top ones trying to switch. That's something that's a bit scummy for me.

Brian Skies

- While I don't recognize the play as in meta for scumBrian, we have different reads from when I replaced in, and initially I liked them, but as I got more into the game, it seemed like they were trying to control the game with their posts, at least in a have some type of effect on helping a game go down a specific slide, if that makes sense. It's a lot of their little jab posts that look like an offensive defense for a team.

Titus

- reverse reads, seems to be discrediting me a lot, but I did like the discussion back and forth between us on Superbowl, even though I don't agree that it makes them scum. It feels like Titus is creating reasons that look scummy, and trying to use that to push. Not confident in this because I don't want to be wrong here, but I am scum reading here.

PookyTheMagicalBear

- dude's shadin', and trying to discredit. This can come from scumPooky with scumNoraa, or scumPooky knowing Noraa is town. Either way, Hench pushing there feels good, and I like when we can sync up like that. Good sign.


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Can Pooky avoid the steamroll coming from Hench and company?

Will Imperium and I ever share a common read?!

Is it possible for Bork to let a topic drop?!?

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