revO emaG - TENET

[midwaybear]

Hmm, the turnstile should probably be used to send people who have stronger roles in the forward stream than the back stream. However, if we send someone through, scum will know that they are a power role.
Anyways, VOTE: Turnstile-midwaybear

[midwaybear]

also turnstiling me is probably a good idea so
VOTE: turnstile: myself

Interesting...

[midwaybear]

I wonder if the scumteam knew the distributions of townies before choosing their own split.

[midwaybear]

UNVOTE: Annie Edison for now I guess

[midwaybear]

Why do people have (0) next to their names in the vc? Should it be 13?

[midwaybear]

-geodaddy

Is this still Cabd?

[midwaybear]

Oh wait, we have still played before...
that game.

[midwaybear]

Having knowledge of the other thread seems like something scum have more available...

[midwaybear]

i still feel like it's probably a bit of a wild goose chase and that it's not super likely we'll be able to actually accomplish it

I was thinking this too.

[midwaybear]

Cobra Kai Never Dies

Is this the way you are choosing to sign your posts?

[midwaybear]

I have no reads. I guess I'll wait a bit more until I actively start trying to make them.

[midwaybear]

kind of like firebringer tryharding actually tbh

I'll sheep this read for now, but not really based off of tryharding.

[midwaybear]

Wouldn't scum just NK you if you went to the other side?

[midwaybear]

i doubt it. scum probably will think they can convince town to mislynch me.

Ummm, well you will still have innocent/guilty results when you flip.

[midwaybear]

My role actually isn't that good, especially since I got it.

[midwaybear]

My role actually isn't that good, especially since I got it.

or I'm just WIFOMing

[midwaybear]

@unwnd- I think it’s a fair statement that I’m one of the easiest obvtowners on this side

Ok let's see it

[midwaybear]

Don’t you worry obtusebear. I’m already townreading you and ffery. Im going to sort whatever game I’m in at the time

I'm talking about you being obvtown not me.
I do agree that Deacon seems townie.

[midwaybear]

all turnstiles on anyone else might as well be yall drinking arsenic. What you all doing.

lol I even said I didn't want to be turnstiled

[midwaybear]

Didn't you come in and turnstyle unvote yourself?

I changed my mind. I mean I'm pretty sure Firebringer dies 99% of the time if he is sent.

[midwaybear]

annie edison is scumpinging me

yees!

[midwaybear]

I’m shocked obtusebear.

Shocked.

Just obvtown right? Shouldn't be hard for you

[midwaybear]

Maybe because since there are more scum, they are better at blending in

[midwaybear]

I was thinking that too, but she would probably be harder to catch sooo

[midwaybear]

This is the same group that caught her d1 xeno lol

That is true. What's weird about Firebringer?

[midwaybear]

Firebringer did a lot early in Xenoblade too. He just fell off as the days went.

[midwaybear]

but, where's my bear?

lurking around

[midwaybear]

Spoiler:

Hmm not much has really changed for me.
peta's townread on me for my first post was way too confident and I'm actually surprised it was serious.
skitter probably goes down a bit for that thing last night about peta. I'm not sure if it was scummy, but it doesn't look great either
Deacon is still townie
I'm not sure why people are scumreading Firebringer. I guess his attitude towards himself and his role is a bit interesting. I still think he probably gets killed if he is turnstiled, but we will see.
Annie Edison moves up a little, but I don't really townread the slot. I think the vote towards skitter was somewhat opportunistic.
superbowl seems townie so far as well.
LLD, Dandelion, SS idk yet

[midwaybear]

I think we use a bit of WIFOM and send over a vanilla today so that scum waste an NK.

[midwaybear]

what the fuck is this post

What's wrong with it?

[midwaybear]

I wouldn't find any of Noraa's individual actions to be scummy at all, but collectively it seems too nonchalant. Hmm

[midwaybear]

Noraa wasn't meek in Xenoblade D1 at all if I remember. She was hard defending Cakez.

[midwaybear]

I've lightly read others. Can you get to the point(with all respect)?

[midwaybear]

Hmm interesting thread dynamic here. It seems like we have two sides, and I don't know if things are that simple.

[midwaybear]

Take a side obtusebear. It’ll be fun.

Idk. My gut and my head are in two different places right now. I'm going to observe for now.

[midwaybear]

Do I have to be pushed to articulate myself so someone can understand my perspective and better read me?

stuff like this is why people scumread you

[midwaybear]

Don't tell peta but I think his obtusebear read is short-sighted

I agree...

[midwaybear]

who actively wants to go over atm? I am aware of superbowl

Firebringer too I think

[midwaybear]

you still comfortable on the wagon you're on?

I'm not very confident.

[midwaybear]

I can't read Noraa at this point.

[midwaybear]

VOTE: Annie Edison
We don't need to rush things I guess.

[midwaybear]

I was thinking of catching up on the 10 pages I missed from 54-64, but would it even be that helpful? Real question

[midwaybear]

UNVOTE: Turnstile Firebringer
This feels like a throw, but he wants it and maybe it'll work out.

[midwaybear]

Nah i think firebringer is a great option here actually

Just hope he doesn't get nightkilled which probably happens?

[midwaybear]

Someone got turnstiled?
(I'm so behind)

[midwaybear]

Hmmm Brian Skies?

[midwaybear]

Hmm I suspect that most people are power roles in this game and we decide which power roles get to be activated by using the turnstile

[midwaybear]

Was Annie Edison a power role or did we just send him over because he wanted it?

[midwaybear]

you know you shouldn't be asking this

I'm just going to assume everyone who wants to get turnstiled is some kind of PR

[midwaybear]

I’m going to cause noise over here distracting.

Huh? Distracting from what

[midwaybear]

It would be interesting if scum were able to gain benefits to their roles from crossing over. I was thinking the main motivations would just be to block town from activating their powers.

[midwaybear]

We sure Flavor is town?

[midwaybear]

Not to this extent I haven't

[midwaybear]

Not to this extent I haven't

I’m April Ludgate, dude

Oh, that's true. I guess this isn't as suspicious then.

v. insteresting that this is the time midwaybear starts being active - just a note

Curious to know what you mean by this?

[midwaybear]

Was Annie Edison a power role or did we just send him over because he wanted it?

you know you shouldn't be asking this

AGREE AGREE AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
LOCKTOWN PETA.

Done. My strongest TR yet.

Why are we locktowning people for saying NAI things?

[midwaybear]

I think Noraa is town
:radical:

I think you are town now.

[midwaybear]

Woah Imperium had a cameo in Tenet?

[midwaybear]

From what I can see, I've liked Titus's posts in the other thread. Sirius also seemed alright back there.

[midwaybear]

Man this game always goes off when I go AFK. Will catchup+reads later tonight(hopefully)

[midwaybear]

Spoiler:

Deacon superbowl
Flavor Leaf(?) Noraa(?)
Firebringer Gamma/DEB Dandelion
skitter peta
SS LLD
Hmm I don't feel super good about this. Maybe one scum in second/third tier idk
Deacon and superbowl don't need too much explanation. superbowl scumcasing a general LHF in Gamma seems townie?
I think Flavor is slightly townie for using ":/" in reaction to me shading him. I feel like he would be more lighthearted about that as scum. Noraa is well... I guess she can live for now.
Firebringer has been making solid posts. I have him a bit lower because his playstyle makes me naturally paranoid. I'm wondering why he doesn't want to get turnstiled anymore? Gamma's rage feels pretty real, but I'm not sure how alignment indicative it is. Pretty much just sheeping Deacon on Dandelion. My personal read there is null.
My personal read on skitter is slightly townie, but I guess I'll trust the crowd? Everyone else I don't really townread either.

[midwaybear]

I'm wondering why he doesn't want to get turnstiled anymore?

i mean i literally can't be turnstilled right now

Would you want to be sent tomorrow?

[midwaybear]

I'm still town if I misfade you.

Sounds like something you said in a recent scumgame

[midwaybear]

ehhh maybe day 3.

What changed?

[midwaybear]

I remember Firebringer really wanted to be sent over at least for the first few days.
pedit: ooook

[midwaybear]

I wonder how many pure VTs there are in this game.

[midwaybear]

superbowl scumcasing a general LHF in Gamma seems townie?

Why????

Seems too high effort

[midwaybear]

Yeah, he's probably gonna go like I was wrong, but I can still be right. skitter, you still are leaning town on him though?

[midwaybear]

his case is absolute trash so either he’s scum pushing a trash case on LHF, or extremely awful town.

Ok, I might take a deeper look later to see if it was really that bad. Right now, I think you might be overblowing it, but maybe you aren't.

[midwaybear]

Bring Midway down a tier.

I never said you couldn't be right...

[midwaybear]

I could vote LLD.

[midwaybear]

I do want us to come to some kind of consensus on skitter sometime soon too.

[midwaybear]

Ugh

[midwaybear]

No, we aren't ending the day...

[midwaybear]

but why, we found scum

Oh good point

[midwaybear]

how does everyone feel about fading midwaybear?

Just because you don't have any confident scumreads?

[midwaybear]

yeah, do u have any?

I feel the same as you tbh

[midwaybear]

I'm not sure if you are serious about that, but I'll still join you there.
UNVOTE: Flavor Leaf

[midwaybear]

Yeah same.
UNVOTE: LLD
UNVOTE: SS
I'm wondering how people are reading Something_Smart right now. skitter townreads him, but I'm not sure why.

[midwaybear]

Firebringer seems genuine in his frustration with Pooky?
UNVOTE: Pooky

[midwaybear]

I had a case of Flavor Fever

[midwaybear]

The vote was independent of the observation. Good point though.

[midwaybear]

midwaybaer what are your reads right now

i'm breaking my self-imposed post restriction to do this to you

Mostly the same as my read list from yesterday. I don’t really scumread anyone though which is a little disappointing. Wondering why TENET was killed.

[midwaybear]

Maybe it was the low info wifom kill

[midwaybear]

okay, let's talk about this. why is deacon at the top? why is LLD at the bottom?

are you really that surprised by the tenet kill? we were just in a game where we shot a replacement night 1 as scum

Deacon's entrance seemed townie aka the way they reached out to everyone. I would expect them to be more go-with-the flow as scum. LLD hasn't pinged town yet, but it is all relative.
Yeah, I'm surprised by the kill. I expect I would have been surprised in 2180 too if I was town there.

[midwaybear]

That's sort of a meme kill and would still point towards scum being in a good spot.

[midwaybear]

No, I mean peta's theory that scum!Pooky killed the alt because he thought it was Hectic. You only make that kill as a joke and when you are in the position to do things like that.

[midwaybear]

just the entrance? i feel like that'd be an easy post to make as either alignment. what about the rest of their content?

again why exactly were you willing to vote FL yesterday despite him being high up in your reads list?

I haven't really been paying super close attention to their posts, but I do think they passed off a decent vibe D1. I will read their posts start of today.
About Flavor, it really was Flavor Fever as he says. I thought he was openwolving a bit with the skitter push, and Pooky's vote was a sort of spark.

[midwaybear]

why do you say that, when skitter was low on your reads list as well? why did you ask this?

Well, I actually said that skitter was personally a little townie for me. However, I felt that since a lot of people were scumreading her, it overruled my personal judgement especially because she can be a hard read because of skill on both alignments. Anyways, I felt that Flavor Leaf was getting a bit desperate which is why I started getting distrustful of him.

[midwaybear]

why was she slightly townie to you, personally?

I'm not sure. I think I found the reasons she gave to not scumread her to be somewhat believable, but I think they might be a little weak now. For example, skitter said that she would absolutely get the quickhammer as scum. But what if her buddies weren't online or something of that kind.
I think she is neutral to me now.

[midwaybear]

If there was one scum, wouldn't it be more likely for a townread player to be killed?

[midwaybear]

But I guess I can chalk that up to lack of experience with him?

I have only played with Flavor as town.
Dreading the day where he rolls scum against me.

[midwaybear]

Did Dandelion Wine have access to the purple room?

[midwaybear]

I think if Deacon is scum, they are probably scum with at least one of the people they called out in that opening post. I would not expect them to make that post if all of the people they called out are town and they are scum.

[midwaybear]

Indeed

[midwaybear]

Well, I’m actually not sure if they want skitter. We’ll see where today goes. My trust in them feels lower even though I can’t pinpoint why.

[midwaybear]

Why are you scumreading Deacon again?

[midwaybear]

How would you expect Deacon to open as town then? I, for one, could see them holding back information.

[midwaybear]

I think Deacon and Dandelion have a way to communicate out of thread.

[midwaybear]

I think Deacon and Dandelion have a way to communicate out of thread.

Not a bad theory but I just think they are relying on prexisting relationship to manipulate the other

Probably deacon

Well apparently they both have access to Imperium’s read list sooo

[midwaybear]

I wonder if the movie has a purple room equivalent that might be helpful. Your theory would be pretty cool though.

[midwaybear]

I am very strategic when I play scum.

Ummm

[midwaybear]

Do I look like a kamikaze scum or a strategic one?

Well, I guess in Smoke you weren't exactly kamikaze, but it was essentially game losing. If you're scum here, there are definitely similarities.

[midwaybear]

yet they let obv town FL die

I don't think Flavor was obv town(at least from my own perspective), but it is interesting that Deacon and Dandelion both weren't voting I guess.
Also, scum Pooky's motivation could simply be just WIFOMing people into thinking that there is no motivation. Like refuge in audacity?

[midwaybear]

Doesn't that contrast with being "strategic" as scum then?

[midwaybear]

I've been lurking around. My reads are mostly the same. I'm pretty sure Firebringer is cop though?

[midwaybear]

Okay Brian I bet i know how to convince u.

Big announcement:
I am retracting my cop claim.

If we are talking about this post, I thought he was joking. Idk

[midwaybear]

Wondering if not sorting within tiers is more town or scum indicative

[midwaybear]

what do i have to do to get in the red when i've openly stopped scumhunting

What's with the play this game?

[midwaybear]

he's doing the TSTBS act

It's definitely possible

[midwaybear]

i have no confidence in any read and am feeling a bit aimless aside from wanting to shoot pooky into the sun

You started off with the openwolving statements though

[midwaybear]

still kinda think midway is town after everything

-b

You know it!

[midwaybear]

bearbro do you still think im a baddie

Uhhh yes? I could also vote other people besides you today, but I still think your play around Flavor was too bold for you to do as town. Maybe not. I might check it out again. I know you said that you wanted to try a different playstyle, but I'm not sure that you go that far as town.

[midwaybear]

I'm not sure. Perhaps around deadline before, yes.

[midwaybear]

midway who else would you vote?

Skitter, peta, SS, LLD
I should probably have reconsidered these reads, but it’s still what I’m working with for now.

[midwaybear]

I don’t think I have. I don’t know if he has done anything that I would consider to be townie for him. I remember he was getting town read for his early game, but it wasn’t that good? Also, his openwolving comments make me uncomfortable...

[midwaybear]

I was thinking that this game currently seems firmly in scum's control. The nightkill was interesting, and I'm thinking the real reason for the lack of any "strong" town voice dying was the threat of Gamma's bodyguard. This probably makes me townread Deacon and Gamma more. superbowl has been coasting a little recently, so he moves down a bit.
I'm unsure about Pooky's alignment right now. I want to townread him, but he seems a bit apathetic? I don't really see his excuse about losing motivation because he is widely scumread, but I might look into some other things about that.
I definitely agree that people in the other thread deserve scrutiny for sending these lower posters over to our thread. In addition to being somewhat lazy, I feel like it also denied the opportunity for any PR claims to be sent over in the guise of "oh we want to clear thread of scum".
Going back and forth on skitter, and it will probably stay that way. Don't really see why I should be townreading SS, peta, or LLD, so the bottom of my reads remains the same for the most part.

[midwaybear]

Mwb if I were actually scum I would probably care way more than what I am feeling now.

Ok, but how do I know you aren't just scum saying this?

[midwaybear]

gamma scum? i feel p good about town!him
honestly i think i can do this too UNVOTE: ss

Weren't you townreading him.

I dont think SS soft-defends me as scum here tho.

easier to go with the tide.

Soft defending you is a perfectly valid scum tactic here. Key word is "soft".

[midwaybear]

Don't really think he would be thinking that as scum

[midwaybear]

Still think we just go Pooky today

[midwaybear]

I feel the sentiment behind 5675

[midwaybear]

I think Bell has improved as scum, so that could be +town for the ones townreading him for being bad.

[midwaybear]

I was voting Annie at some point as well.
Also, this game seems much different from Xenoblade, so that could explain some things. I haven't been reading much of the other thread though.
I will make another post later.

[midwaybear]

But what if Annie Edison is scum?

[midwaybear]

Oops nevermind skitter.

[midwaybear]

Not sure what that was all about.
Anyways, I think something that hasn't really been talked about much is the "afterlife" mechanic where people apparently can post again some time after they die. People return the phase they were killed, but in the opposite thread. So we might be seeing Flavor and Tenet again (assuming we even make it that far). I was thinking we might be able to use this to our advantage. For example, I have somewhat of a scumread on skitter, but if she is town, it wouldn't hurt to have her posting in the late game. I'm actually not sure how helpful this mechanic will be, but was sorta surprised no one was talking about it.
I'm also surprised that I haven't really been pushed at all this game. I see that peta and bork are townreading me which might be a reason, but it could also just point to a scumteam that doesn't want to or need to take any action. I'm hoping it is the former, but we might be in trouble if it is the latter. I view myself pretty likely to be pushed in some capacity down the line though.
I see that Something_Smart has voted himself to be turnstiled which apparently sends him to his death. I want to view this as a town move, and I'm also wondering why he wasn't really posting like he is before. If we end up concluding that he is town, I would like to keep him around. Currently, I'm a little unsure because a lot of his posts that I actually read read to me like openwolving/trolling. It was pretty scummy to me that when he started getting pressure, he attempted to make the arguments based on semantics instead of really addressing concerns. Right now, he is probably around the middle of my reads. His early ISO posts look alright and his recent posts also look fine.
I think skitter is scummy especially if SS is town. There was one interaction with SS where she sorta flipped her townread on him into a scumread just as thread consensus started to move against him. Her reasoning seemed to be that her early townread had eroded in a sense, but I'm not sure how believable that is. Surely, something had to have changed in his play, but I'm not sure how different he was playing. Basically, I get that reads can change, but her progression seemed much to shaky. I also don't really see any other reasons to really townread skitter yet.
peta's posting has definitely improved. I don't think he has towntold for me yet, but his overall body of work is decent enough to move him up a bit.
Surprisingly, I still don't individually townread Dandelion, so I'll still be sheeping Deacon there.
I've also noticed that superbowl seems to be coasting. He said earlier today that he was scumhunting, but I don't really see it. I'd like for superbowl to talk about his reads here a bit and his take on this gamestate. Scum are definitely in a good spot here, and his behavior seems mostly unconcerned which is concerning.
When I'm thinking of my reads, I actually don't have that many strong townreads which was a little surprising, but I don't really have any strong scumreads either.

Spoiler:

Deacon Gamma
Firebringer(?) Dandelion
peta SS superbowl
skitter LLD

I don't really have any reads on A50, pisskop, or Pooky except for a declining scumread on Pooky that I need to look at again.

[midwaybear]

Maybe also because of the multi vote mechanic

[midwaybear]

UNVOTE: turnstile: something_smart

i feel sick placing this vote but. i guess it'll be worse avoiding it

yikes

[midwaybear]

Scum killed muffin? They're just flexing at this point.

[midwaybear]

UNVOTE: skitter
UNVOTE: LLD
UNVOTE: Pooky
Still not sure on Pooky. I need to look at his reads again.

[midwaybear]

peta I have not paid much attention but even if superbowl scum claimed over here I still would have pressed the button

Why is this?

[midwaybear]

Annie Edison seems to be ignoring this thread's scumread on him

[midwaybear]

Hm I did have a theory at the start of the game about each role having counterparts. Looks like it is coming together now.

[midwaybear]

ok midwaybear is lockscum

Why aren't you voting me then...

[midwaybear]

btw why does no one ever throw shade on me for voting my town reads?

What's the point of saying this? Do you think there are any reasons people have not done so?

[midwaybear]

More votes on Pooky please.

[midwaybear]

i'm probably gonna throw in the towel and kill pooky though because if hes scum great and if hes town we'll lose soon and the game will be over anyway

Yeah, I basically agree with this post entirely.

[midwaybear]

What about Pooky?

[midwaybear]

Stay mad Firebringer

[midwaybear]

My main issue is that skitter looks scummy and Annie Edison also looked(looks?) scummy, but it doesn't seem like they can be scum together.

[midwaybear]

Pooky do you actually think Dandelion and Deacon are scum together? Not trying to say it is incorrect, but also am making sure you weren't trolling.

[midwaybear]

I'm at two votes? You can vote me now.

[midwaybear]

Hmm
Why are we even purple rooming LLD? Just because she wants it?

[midwaybear]

UNVOTE: Purple Room-midwaybear
Let's do this instead?

[midwaybear]

I'm feeling pretty disengaged from this game, so maybe the purple room will help out. I also don't really get why LLD is.
Don't want to cause too much trouble about this though.

[midwaybear]

LLD wants to go to the purple room? Hurr Durr lemme try to get there instead hurr durr I don't even know why I wanna goooo.

I mean we can at least get the situation correctly explained. I'd like to go because maybe the 1v1 will help me get a better grip on the game. After all, I have <150 posts which is considerably less than all of you.
LLD going to the purple room seems more or less for similar reasons, but I'd like to shoot my shot here.

[midwaybear]

[midwaybear]

Pooky can you purple room me?

[midwaybear]

Vote LLD?
Also, is it absolutely necessary that we elim today?

[midwaybear]

I meant un(vote) her for purple room please?

Also, is it absolutely necessary that we elim today?

Forget about this. I think I might be able to reread some key moments tomorrow(fingers crossed).

[midwaybear]

seriously, midway I had no idea you had a burning desire to visit the purple room. :/

I don't have a burning desire. I'd like to though. I'm ambivalent about LLD going.

[midwaybear]

Because I don't townread her. What kind of answer were you expecting?

[midwaybear]

UNVOTE: Spiffeh
Sure

[midwaybear]

Want to vote Pooky?

[midwaybear]

I was talking to Spiffeh

[midwaybear]

On Day 2, Pooky seemed to trolling a bit with regard to people attacking him like he didn't really care. His reads also seemed somewhat shady, but other than that I don't have much.
On an unrelated note, I don't know what info we can get from the pisskop wagon. We might interpret it as a case of scum taking control(likely), but it also could just be an apathetic town wagon. That's a bit concerning.

[midwaybear]

If your point is that your play could also be seen as disengaged in TvA, didn't you also admit to intentionally being low presence because you were a mason?

[midwaybear]

Is it just me or is LLD using TSTBS too much?

[midwaybear]

So no. I'm doing you or Peta or A50 today. Those are my only options.

Ok?

[midwaybear]

It was just an observation. You seemed to be using the logic that people were probably then just because they would never be in this situation as scum. While that can be valid, it feels wrong to me (not helpful I know).
I “scumread” you because you haven’t pinged town. I know Deacon and Dandelion have you there, and I’m wondering why.

[midwaybear]

What does TBTBS mean, and why am I scum beyond a general sense of not being able to find me as town?

Too scummy to be scum.
Because I don’t think your reads are legit which follows from my previous argument

[midwaybear]

@LLD That's not even what he said

[midwaybear]

cause if you think i'm scum after how i've approached this game state peta

How would you say your play here deviates from what you would do as scum?

[midwaybear]

We're getting distracted from Pooky scum.

[midwaybear]

Scum really trying to keep Pooky alive huh

[midwaybear]

LLD, maybe Dandelion
skitter could be scum, but I’m weak when the pushing gets to this point.

[midwaybear]

If Brian is limmed and flips town everyone on his wagon should be limmed systematically

We don't have enough days to do that

[midwaybear]

Apparently we have 10 days? I have a little more hope now.

[midwaybear]

Yeah, let's get Pooky today. Liked what bork said in 7758.
I've also said before that my TR on Dandelion was solely due to sheeping Deacon, so I might look there later.

[midwaybear]

I am stunned i am the only one concerned with grilling pooky.

He's offline

[midwaybear]

Imagine if this is TvT

[midwaybear]

i never got this impression in the one game i played with you

Really? I thought he was pretty thorough in the FGO game.

[midwaybear]

Meh not really feeling any sort of townread towards skitter today for some reason. I still do want Pooky gone FIRST.

[midwaybear]

I thought Pooky was easy to spell...

[midwaybear]

Hi guys. Did I miss anything big?

[midwaybear]

Hi guys. Did I miss anything big?

lmao

What happened...

[midwaybear]

Why was skitter turnstiled :/

[midwaybear]

Why was skitter even turnstiled though? I really don't get it.

[midwaybear]

i dont know some respect to let them make their point and argue for he elim while they're in the same thread?

I was thinking this too. If the double D scumread skitter so much, why turnstile her?
Huh??

[midwaybear]

i mean they're not the ones who did it (at least i'm p sure) and it sounds like you're faking being obtuse rn

Well, even so, the argument would still extend towards most people because they scumread you?
Also, I see that people want A50 dead. Pooky really getting out of this aliv ehuh

[midwaybear]

I want Pooky to die because he never seems to be in the conversation anymore (both literally and the conversation to be hanged) and I'm finding that suspicious. I also don't think any of his content reads townie to me. He just ATE last night without really giving any reads. Sure, he said he didn't have any, but I would expect town Pooky to at least be doing something to try to get better reads instead of just lurking.

[midwaybear]

I have a feeling that midwaybear knows his 'tunnel' on Pooky is just gonna fall on deaf ears

What do you want me to do? I'm just one person and I have no track record.

[midwaybear]

Do you feel that he's not in the conversation anymore because his potential scumbuddies are deliberately ignoring him and focusing their attention elsewhere?

I don't know about deliberate, but the people just aren't talking about Pooky for some reason which probably gives his buddies leeway in talking about him. As long as the thread remains directed on other people, it is fine.
This theory does fall apart if these current suspects are scum (skitter, A50)

[midwaybear]

i want to know what you think about the other wagons around other than that they're not pooky

skitter: went back and forth on her. Probably going to YOLO town read her because whatever
spiffeh: I don't really have a scum or town read on him.
petapan: slightly town

[midwaybear]

Maybe don't vote for other people for literally no reason?

I thought you were sorta scummy when I voted you. I still think my vote on you is fine, but I would prefer Pooky. I get how it can look like I'm being opportunistic on you while hiding behind Pooky.

[midwaybear]

You're town. Uh as for LLD, well she townread him so...

[midwaybear]

Ok, I might be tunneled. My bad if you are town Pooky idk

[midwaybear]

I'm still calling you on your statement that nobody's talked about Pooky.

Relatively speaking :/

[midwaybear]

there's some tone there still but where in previous days he felt he was playing in a way he couldn't as scum, today i could see him plying this way as scum. i probably wouldn't vote him still but confidence level is only slight

I think you should try to get a better read. This feels a bit lackluster. Perhaps as you take a step back, you will be able to.

[midwaybear]

Why are we quickhammering with over a week left?

[midwaybear]

Firebringer, your vote on peta seems a bit cowardly like you are trying to get the best of both worlds.
Not if you are scum of course which is what these actions would suggest on face value

[midwaybear]

I'm not really satisfied with this answer on why you suddenly hate his guts

It's not sudden, and whatever you can have your opinion

[midwaybear]

Scum are probably just putting it all on the table right now. Doesn’t feel like much can get done with everyone just ATE left ATE right.

[midwaybear]

now, granted, since stepping away from the thread i figured i might just be overthinking it

Why is Pooky not with A50/Spiffeh