Yellowstone

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:33 am

VOTE: Noraa

Vote for me, let's get this out of the way.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #14 (isolation #1) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:51 am

In post 13, Flea The Magician wrote:you lot dodging RVS are sus, just saying.

Voting for me isn't random! What is suspicious is you not piling on me.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #20 (isolation #2) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:32 am

In post 16, no elim wrote:VOTE: no elimination

boy that's gonna be confusing.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #21 (isolation #3) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:32 am

In post 18, Marky Mark wrote:VOTE: DGB (E-4) If I tunnel you in enough games, I'm bound to be right eventually

At least this time you have good reasons.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #35 (isolation #4) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:53 pm

In post 27, Horsewoman wrote:Hi I'm new go easy

VOTE: DGB sure

Guillotina!!!! Ooooweeee

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #120 (isolation #5) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:55 am

I'm really liking Flea for town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #130 (isolation #6) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:11 pm

Ok well im now 99% sure I have soul read on Flea and I think they're scum. Maybe will explain why later. A bit cautious treading in this territory cuz last I SRed Flea, they were town. Gimme some time to think.

No, you're gonna have to explain it now.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #131 (isolation #7) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:12 pm

In post 130, DrippingGoofball wrote:

Ok well im now 99% sure I have soul read on Flea and I think they're scum. Maybe will explain why later. A bit cautious treading in this territory cuz last I SRed Flea, they were town. Gimme some time to think.
No, you're gonna have to explain it now.

That's for Noraa.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #134 (isolation #8) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:36 pm

Meta is trash, so are meta tells.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #135 (isolation #9) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:41 pm

Noraa, you said you are 99% certain that Flea is scum, but you won't say why. When I asked, so said it has to be 100% for you to drop that precious meta tell.

Explain that please.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #151 (isolation #10) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:07 pm

Noraa I feel like I am kicking a puppy but I need to know how you can criticize someone for pushes that don't make sense... on page 5.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #168 (isolation #11) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:53 am

Noraa is 99% sure Flea is scum but vote:Mark

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #171 (isolation #12) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:07 am

In post 169, Toogeloo wrote:Noraa is a weirdo sometimes.

Please suggest a strategy to deal with this.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #202 (isolation #13) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:06 am

I have a town read on Flea but Noraa's tell about the amount of fluff is super convincing. I guess i am wrong and Flea is scum. So my next step is to vote Mark, if I get how this works?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #207 (isolation #14) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:25 am

A noobtown PR will react all over the place, though. I don't trust that.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #258 (isolation #15) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:49 pm

I don't agree with HW's but it looks like it comes from town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #297 (isolation #16) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:14 am

In post 260, Horsewoman wrote:
In post 258, DrippingGoofball wrote:I don't agree with HW's but it looks like it comes from town.
holy fuck what is your joindate is that real?

I don't know if I should be proud or embarrassed.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #298 (isolation #17) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:16 am

In post 275, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 263, Nono wrote:
In post 119, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 118, Nono wrote:VOTE: jackson
Fancy explaining your train of thought?
mark's vote was a "poke" vote,, that's fine, the way jackson jumped on it, took it seriously felt bad, imo, excited, imo
jackson's weird, apparently, can't make up my mind

reading still
You've got a seriously warped vision of the current game-state.

That ^^^^

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #299 (isolation #18) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:19 am

In post 270, Momrangal wrote:Nora is a cutesy overly excited kind of player... Like a puppy but in this game it doesn't seem over the top, and it feels like there's a level of focus and seriousness there. It's almost like she needs to actually some thinking in the game, and not make plays to redirect town votes, and plays, and cause havic.

I see the exact opposite. Complete lack of focus, seriousness, or thinking, wrecking havoc.

When I was scum with her I was glad to let her roll the town with that BS. Here, not so much.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #301 (isolation #19) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:02 am

TOWN

DrippingGoofball
JacksonVirgo
Guillotina
Marky Mark
Horsewoman
Flea the Magician

NULL

AGamblingPig
Nono
Momrangal

SCUM

Toogeloo
Noraa
LlamaMama
no elim

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #304 (isolation #20) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:55 am

Scum has been prodded

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #331 (isolation #21) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:21 am

@Guillotina
I am on board with 3 out of 5 of your scum reads.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #333 (isolation #22) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:23 am

In post 326, Toogeloo wrote:I'm on a lot of people's scum lists. Flea, you may need to bus me.

??? !!! ??? !!! ???

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #367 (isolation #23) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:17 pm

In post 352, Marky Mark wrote:Fwiw, I feel like DGB's reads are in a good place, although I am confused on the strong TR of horse, given that she was deliberatley misleading in her "Hi, I'm new" post. Perhaps you could explain to us how you still TR her despite that?

The iso is a bit off-putting, I'll admit, but then I asked myself, "what's the scum motivation for any of this?" and I townbinned her.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #433 (isolation #24) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:33 pm

VOTE: Momrangal

why not

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #435 (isolation #25) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:25 pm

Is it wrong for me to love posts with Japanese emojis so much?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #438 (isolation #26) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:47 pm

I don't have much of a read on that slot, so vote and see.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #461 (isolation #27) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:34 pm

It may be genuine, it may be staged, either way it's easy to overlook the garnishes and read the player. So right now on page 19... I find nothing worrisome at all.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #483 (isolation #28) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:51 am

In post 475, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 462, Guillotina wrote:
In post 461, DrippingGoofball wrote:It may be genuine, it may be staged, either way it's easy to overlook the garnishes and read the player. So right now on page 19... I find nothing worrisome at all.
This tells me absolutely nothing.
Try reading o(≧∇≦o)

Please use fae/faer or they/them pronouns for me please

Is this for me? I didn't use any pronoun, "it" refers to behavior <3 <3 <3

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #574 (isolation #29) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:35 am

In post 525, Noraa wrote:
In post 433, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Momrangal

why not
VOTE: DGB

explain your vote pls.

99% aura soul read, a fairy told me who was sitting pretty on a toadstool blowing sparkly bubbles!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #579 (isolation #30) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:38 am

Noraa is caught scum lashing out, calling it now.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #605 (isolation #31) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:27 am

In post 591, Noraa wrote:
In post 579, DrippingGoofball wrote:Noraa is caught scum lashing out, calling it now.

you've thought I was scum every game now.
maybe reassess ur reads.
u thought I was scum in trials and Cakes large normal.

You were my scum buddy in Death Curse. Tell me. what did my play look like there. and don't be snarky with ur answer. Fairies and bubbles and toadstools don't cut it.

How about the soul read?

99%

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #657 (isolation #32) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:21 pm

TSTBC = scum

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #681 (isolation #33) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:56 pm

In post 678, Horsewoman wrote:I dont love DGB either. Look at this reads list.

She's pretty much scumreading a bunch of inactives and townreading the players who are doing anything (this was already pointed out by vaxkiller). And posts like 481 are in my opinion, really terrible.

There's a built-in bias in early games where prolific players are more likely to drop town tells because they post more, and for less prolific players who drop scumtells not to have redeemed themselves yet if they are town. I am aware of that and revise my reads as the game advances.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #682 (isolation #34) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:57 pm

I will point out that some of my scumreads have flaked and been replaced, so I will definitely re-evaluate.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #687 (isolation #35) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:13 pm

I didn't notice who you are replacing, Infinity.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #873 (isolation #36) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:09 am

In post 868, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 852, MathBlade wrote:Vax explain why you townread Horse and why scum don’t take her free miselim (if she is town doubtful) when they could have easily done so under the guise of “end the day quick to hide the likely other mason”.
*shrug* Maybe scum is already on it. Maybe scum is scared to take a hard position (like nora on DGB).

My position on Noraa is a lot harder than hers is on me, but for some reason everyone shrugs off all the scummy things she posts... I was cheering it when I was scum with her, but she's pulling the same trick in this game, but I'm town thus time and I'm not having it.

It's frustrating.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #874 (isolation #37) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:10 am

I missed the Mason claim. UNVOTE:

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #883 (isolation #38) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:18 am

In post 796, JacksonVirgo wrote:If we have a vigilante, I recommend shooting in the low-posters to clear the null-tier. The scummy players and the townie players sort themselves out more or less where I've seen null tier stay null and loses us the game.

Such as?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #885 (isolation #39) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:19 am

@Mathblade Yeah no one got scum vibes from her in Death Scroll either.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #888 (isolation #40) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:22 am

In post 884, Momrangal wrote:
DBGs activity is reduced sitewide I beleive

I don't believe it is reduced at all. I'm more of a tidal player, spam'n'go over and over LOL.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #892 (isolation #41) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:26 am

In post 887, MathBlade wrote:
In post 885, DrippingGoofball wrote:@Mathblade Yeah no one got scum vibes from her in Death Scroll either.
Link me for later?

And if no one got scum vibes from that game wouldn’t take make her more than likely town since people are getting scum vibes?

I'm pretty much the only player who wants to yeet her, with occasional assists from others.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #920 (isolation #42) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:12 am

Early day wagons can be on scum too, if people feel obligated to drag the day they tend to find other wagons out of boredom and scum gets away.

DrippingGoofball · Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:34 pm

DrippingGoofball · Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:42 pm

I have been keeping up all day but I have information overload.

The only thing I am sure of is that no scum in their right mind would cast doubt on a mason claim this early in the game, so there's that in Flea's favor.

DrippingGoofball · Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:52 pm

I am really liking the new replacements in terms of game health and activity. The only sore point continues to be AGamblingPig. His posts aren't shining a bright townie light on the game.

DrippingGoofball · Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:55 pm

We need to stop wasting time talking about day 1 VCA with no flips.

DrippingGoofball · Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:58 pm

In post 1134, Horsewoman wrote:I'm sorry, I just can't townread fleaaa here. Playstyle is one thing but fae's blatantly anti-town behaviour is another. And furthermore I've read faer case on guillotina - it is
awful
. I liked faer case on me, it seemed genuine. But all of that analysis has gone by the wayside when fae is talking about guillotina. Completely artificial push. Fleaa has got to be scum here.

Bleeergh

I didn't read the case on Guillotina. Why is it awful? Maybe I'm wrong about Flea.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1154 (isolation #48) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:07 pm

After some self-examination maybe my scumreading Noraa is based on my red hot dislike of that kind of jumping moonlogik playstyle. Every time I read her posts I want to punch a wall, but everyone else just loves it, so it's me, not her.

Maybe it's best for me to not join games where she's on the player list for my own sanity. I will of course complete my commitment to this game.

In that same vein, I have an affinity for MathBlade and Guillotina posting styles and I have to reckon that there is a part of my psyche that doesn't want to scumread them.

This was my confessional.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1158 (isolation #49) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:11 pm

In post 1149, Momrangal wrote:Then help us get a flip

I'm gonna try!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1161 (isolation #50) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:14 pm

In post 1156, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1155, Horsewoman wrote:what does twbtw stand for
Too Wolfy to be a wolf.

Aka flea is so scummy faer can’t be scum.

Ignoring the conclusion, I hate TSTBS. If you have to say that, it means you have to finesse your scumtells.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1163 (isolation #51) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:20 pm

In post 1162, Horsewoman wrote:
In post 1160, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1159, Horsewoman wrote:A lot of people saying 'we should flip someone just for information'. Anti-town moindset in my opinion, always try to get scum from day 1 because this is our only opportunity. Also the information gained from people flipping is usually garbage and unreliable.
Coincidentally I also think you’re scum.
I know. But DGB said that as well and i think it's not hugely based on scumreading me. I think it's anti-town and possibly actively scummy from her.

What did I say?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1165 (isolation #52) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:24 pm

I didn't say who, though.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1166 (isolation #53) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:33 pm

Horsewoman feels like a player who flinches a real lot when poked, and is highly reflexive? I don't know how this plays for alignment. I don't know if it's scum but I can see how other players might counter-react and scumtead her.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1172 (isolation #54) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:43 pm

I am on mobile right now by infinity iso feels more like walking on eggshells around the other players.

I see mollifying other players, weak attacks, tip toeing around. More a supplicant than a scumhunter.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1174 (isolation #55) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:46 pm

In post 1149, Momrangal wrote:Then help us get a flip

Horsewoman, explain why you are picking on me?

Both MathBlade and Monrangal are saying we should have a flip. I just said I'll try.

Are you misunderstanding something?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1176 (isolation #56) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:53 pm

In post 1167, Horsewoman wrote:
In post 1165, DrippingGoofball wrote:I didn't say who, though.
Yes, but if you're trying to flip anyone for the sake of flipping them that's bad news. Me or anyone.

I am kinda pissed off that you are misunderstanding me so badly because I never effib' said that, and I do not vote players for flips ever, in any game, unless it's deadline and there is a danger of no lynch.

I take your accusation personally because it goes against a longstanding game philosophy of mine.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1178 (isolation #57) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:58 pm

In post 1175, Horsewoman wrote:
In post 1174, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1149, Momrangal wrote:Then help us get a flip
Horsewoman, explain why you are picking on me?

Both MathBlade and Monrangal are saying we should have a flip. I just said I'll try.

Are you misunderstanding something?
momrangal is confirmed town due to claim. mathblade is pushing to flip people who he actually scumreads. you aren't. it's still an anti-town behaviour/thing to say for all three of you.

WHO AM I TRYING TO FLIP??????

I AM NOT TRYING TO FLIP ANYONE FOR THE SAKE OF FLIPPING ESPECIALLY NOT MY TOWN READS

What are you not getting?

I need to take a deep breath and walk off, I am becoming a toxic presence.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1181 (isolation #58) » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:00 pm

I apologize for my behavior. Sincerely. Maybe it's lack of sleep. Hot flashes keep robbing me of REM sleep and the only time I get some respite is afternoon naps.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1372 (isolation #59) » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:46 am

In post 1353, Marky Mark wrote: --pedit @JV yeah, that interaction if anything looks bad on HW's 1167 as it takes what seemed to me to be a light-hearted post from DGB and twists it to imply that DGB is flip-hunting

Her stubborn refusal to walk it back when I pointed it out crashed my town read into a pole.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1374 (isolation #60) » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:51 am

In post 1363, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1154, DrippingGoofball wrote:After some self-examination maybe my scumreading Noraa is based on my red hot dislike of that kind of jumping moonlogik playstyle. Every time I read her posts I want to punch a wall, but everyone else just loves it, so it's me, not her.

Maybe it's best for me to not join games where she's on the player list for my own sanity. I will of course complete my commitment to this game.

In that same vein, I have an affinity for MathBlade and Guillotina posting styles and I have to reckon that there is a part of my psyche that doesn't want to scumread them.

This was my confessional.
Can you elaborate more on this? This felt like a double-pocket attempt, sorry if im wrong.

I don't have anything else to say on the topic. I still haven't figured out what "pocket" means. Townreading? Agreeing? Sheeping? Ingratiating oneself? Matching words and actions?

There should be a word for the opposite of whatever it is. Depocket?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1380 (isolation #61) » Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:11 am

In post 1092, Infinity 324 wrote:Math can you not do the thing where you enter the game and have one silly reason to SR me and confbias tunnel me for the rest of the game please

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1381 (isolation #62) » Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:12 am

In post 1180, Infinity 324 wrote:DGB kinda feels like it’s caught for the wrong reasons. The tone is really off in 1176

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1382 (isolation #63) » Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:12 am

Mathbkade caught Infinity for the wrong reason.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1408 (isolation #64) » Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:37 am

VOTE: Horsewoman

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1410 (isolation #65) » Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:47 am

I looked all over that wall post for a Horsewoman vote but I must have missed it. Is it in spoiler tags?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1518 (isolation #66) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:27 am

In post 1491, JacksonVirgo wrote:Oh fuck that looks bad for me lmfaoo, I'm a N1 vigilante. I am not sure where the hell the mofia kill went. I would have assumed the scum was within Momrangal, Toogeloo, DGB so I shot within the trio. If it helps I also softed vigilante with my vig talks yesterday.

Now that is VERY interesting and I may have some relevant information.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1524 (isolation #67) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:32 am

RE: Missing nightkill

We need a massclaim.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1525 (isolation #68) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:33 am

WALLPOSTERS: PAY ATTENTION

In post 1518, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1491, JacksonVirgo wrote:Oh fuck that looks bad for me lmfaoo, I'm a N1 vigilante. I am not sure where the hell the mofia kill went. I would have assumed the scum was within Momrangal, Toogeloo, DGB so I shot within the trio. If it helps I also softed vigilante with my vig talks yesterday.
Now that is VERY interesting and I may have some relevant information.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1528 (isolation #69) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:35 am

Roger that

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1554 (isolation #70) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:57 am

I may have something to do with the missing NK, but it could be someone else too.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1558 (isolation #71) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:14 am

I accept all pronouns.

Snowflakes....

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1559 (isolation #72) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:16 am

Snow flurries...

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1560 (isolation #73) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:17 am

I am so bad at riddles.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1561 (isolation #74) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:24 am

Anyway... do your magic, MathBlade, I'll trust it will become clear eventually.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1611 (isolation #75) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:33 am

In post 1571, Vaxkiller wrote:@DGB Only if you push for it like I did.

CLAIM OR DIE!!!!!

LOL

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1614 (isolation #76) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:35 am

In post 1586, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1583, Noraa wrote:Also, I was right about horsewoman and imma be snarky about it
VOTE: Noraa

Here is your medal. You knew Horsewoman was town very early in the game. How or Why?

She's scum.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1618 (isolation #77) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:37 am

In post 1612, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1611, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1571, Vaxkiller wrote:@DGB Only if you push for it like I did.
CLAIM OR DIE!!!!!

LOL
Is this a joke or serious? I think joke?

Totally an in-joke.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1620 (isolation #78) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:38 am

In post 1617, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1614, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1586, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1583, Noraa wrote:Also, I was right about horsewoman and imma be snarky about it
VOTE: Noraa

Here is your medal. You knew Horsewoman was town very early in the game. How or Why?
She's scum.
G had he in the pronoun field I believe

I refer to Noraa.

We will worry about her some other day.

We have other priorities today.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1622 (isolation #79) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:40 am

I have good feelings about today.

DrippingGoofball · Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:44 am

In post 1639, MathBlade wrote:Hi mom! Think we should have a plan for this.

Pants protection is important.

No one wants a blizzard in their bloomers.

DrippingGoofball · Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:39 am

In post 1651, Infinity 324 wrote:If we're gonna massclaim, do we want to wait to out the protective? That at least makes it harder for scum to pick off PRs.

If the protective protected the Mason, that player should claim VT.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1764 (isolation #82) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:53 pm

In post 1755, Momrangal wrote:I do want opinions though

This is best done with multiple wagons, otherwise you hardly do any better than random.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1894 (isolation #83) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:49 pm

In post 1889, Momrangal wrote:Because we have tons of information that usually isn't apparent on a d2

Correct.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1899 (isolation #84) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:51 pm

In post 1880, Flea The Magician wrote:Apparently. I'm refusing.

Were you asked already?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1903 (isolation #85) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:53 pm

In post 1897, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1894, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1889, Momrangal wrote:Because we have tons of information that usually isn't apparent on a d2
Correct.
Hey DGB what do you think of G and Nora?

Especially G?

Noraa is scum, I knew that yesterday and it's even more apparent now that she's been caught without a fakeclaim.

Guillotina on the other hand, might be holding on to something at least for now.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1906 (isolation #86) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:54 pm

In post 1902, Noraa wrote:Btw I have something to say. Math should not be allowed to guide this day phase after yesterday. Last time a town leader hard tunneled on day 1, I saw them singlehandedly cause a day 1, 2 and 3 mislim. That is not going to happen here. I don't care what math claims. Be it a cop or a RBer. He doesn't have the right to guide this day phase.

Jealousy?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1910 (isolation #87) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:55 pm

In post 1905, Momrangal wrote:We have....

Marky: VT
Guillotina: VT
JV: vig
Mara: mason

Mara is you? What is the story?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1913 (isolation #88) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:55 pm

Noraa spit out your fakeclaim now.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1915 (isolation #89) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:56 pm

In post 1912, Momrangal wrote:I had a child, now I have two

Pedit: they are familiar with Ms marangal

Oh now I remember! Good times.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1927 (isolation #90) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:59 pm

VOTE: Noraa

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1930 (isolation #91) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:00 pm

In post 1924, Noraa wrote:I swear to god. I am actually not gonna read anything if y'all just keep quoting long ass quote walls. I don't give two shits if it gets me killed. I have a nice big collection of day 1 lims anyways.

You don't have to read anything, just claim.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1933 (isolation #92) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:00 pm

In post 1929, Noraa wrote:
In post 1927, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Noraa
hi. you have terrible reads if ur town.

Read my sig, it's been unchanged for a decade.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1937 (isolation #93) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:01 pm

UNVOTE:

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1940 (isolation #94) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:02 pm

In post 1905, Momrangal wrote:We have....

Marky: VT
Guillotina: VT
JV: vig
Mara: mason
Noraa: VT
Flea: mystery

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1941 (isolation #95) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:03 pm

In post 1939, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 1933, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1929, Noraa wrote:
In post 1927, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Noraa
hi. you have terrible reads if ur town.
Read my sig, it's been unchanged for a decade.
MAY I REMIND YOU THE GAME WE JUST PLAYED THAT TOOK YOU A DECADE TO CLAIM AND YOU WERE TOWN?

sry i just had to do that

I was right that you were wrong LOL

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1955 (isolation #96) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:07 pm

Infinity needs to claim.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2014 (isolation #97) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:33 pm

In post 2003, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1998, Vaxkiller wrote:Gee and I was t thinking Vig makes sense with my role, because it balances town
Gonna have to revisit this.

I think someone else might also be a PGO if you are
Which would be really weird.

Are you counterclaiming?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2034 (isolation #98) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:47 pm

Marky: VT
Guillotina: VT
JV: vig
Mara: mason
Noraa: VT
Flea: mystery
Vax: X shot PGO

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2089 (isolation #99) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:01 pm

Infinity needs to go next.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:52 am

In post 2157, Noraa wrote:
In post 2034, DrippingGoofball wrote:Marky: VT
Guillotina: VT
JV: vig
Mara: mason
Noraa: VT
Flea: mystery
Vax: X shot PGO
Happy scum day DGB!!!!

Thank you! I am trying to decide if I should be proud or embarrassed

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:54 am

Should I claim now? I've been holding it in for so long I'm about to piss my pants.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:57 am

I roleblocked AGamblingPig

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:58 am

Ooooweeeeeeeee

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:00 am

There's no other explanation, right?

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:02 am

I considered the possibility that someone protected the scum's target which would have confirmed the target as town, but I don't see how this could have happened given the claims.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:03 am

Let's not speed-yeet until we hear from Vax, that is why I am holding off voting for AGP.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:17 am

In post 2288, MathBlade wrote:It’s a risky play so I understand if Flea doesn’t do it, but I would declare it here and ffs don’t block Flea DGB obvi

I missed something? I am catching up.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:20 am

In post 2310, MathBlade wrote:Flea is also conf fruit vendor. Alignment prob town. Hope he nukes himself to check Vax.

Got it LOL

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:22 am

VOTE: AGamblingPig

I believe I earned this beautiful hammer.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:24 am

Did I not hammer?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:31 pm

I blocked Guillotina.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:33 pm

In post 2389, Infinity 324 wrote:Hmm maybe vax fakeclaimed PGO and scum decided to kill
flea to avoid outing him

That was my first thought, maybe because I never believed the PGO claim in the first place.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:36 pm

In post 2395, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2389, Infinity 324 wrote:Hmm maybe vax fakeclaimed PGO and scum decided to kill
flea to avoid outing him
Possible but that’s not what makes no sense.

There’d have to be four scum for G to be scum here.

Something doesn’t add up

We're saying Vax may be scum, not Guillotina.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:40 pm

I am a regular roleblocker.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:03 pm

In post 2419, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2386, DrippingGoofball wrote:I blocked Guillotina.
Well that was a wasted action, im a fucking camper!

Who would you have picked?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:25 pm

I don't believe the PGO claim.

What if I target it tonight?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:27 pm

In post 2478, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2477, DrippingGoofball wrote:I don't believe the PGO claim.

What if I target it tonight?
Bruh

That is how certain I am that Vax is bluffing/lying.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:28 pm

In post 2481, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2477, DrippingGoofball wrote:I don't believe the PGO claim.

What if I target it tonight?
You likely die.

I think that’s stupid

Wanna bet I'll still be alive?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:32 pm

Are you claiming rolecop masons,

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:34 pm

In post 2487, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2477, DrippingGoofball wrote:I don't believe the PGO claim.

What if I target it tonight?

I'm so confident in my mechanical knowledge that I would do it if I was the roleblocker, but every site process roles differently I guess we don't have to risk it if we policy yeet the PGO?

Procedure dictates that if he is town, he has to claim the role before EoD1, he didn't! Now, if it's true that the PGO cannot be mechanically countered, then the only way he is getting eliminated if he was scum is if we yeet him.

EXACTLY

That's how I know he's lying to avoid being tracked etc. Probably a scum PR.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:36 pm

In post 2490, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2486, DrippingGoofball wrote:Are you claiming rolecop masons,
Why would you care if we are or not?

It would help everyone solve the game. Now I have to work with mystery masons AND a fakeclaiming PGO.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:37 pm

In post 2491, Infinity 324 wrote:Does anyone disagree that we win if we lim me, noraa, me, and vax?

I want to start with Vax.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:42 pm

No problem, do your mathgic.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:27 pm

In post 2579, MathBlade wrote:So no we can’t invite people.

So if you’re town then DGB almost certainly becomes scum.

And because G likely isn’t the killer (must as I hate his mechanics stupidity) then DGB likely didn’t stop the kill unless there’s four scum.

However getting town to take that leap of faith is really hard.

I am town. So somewhere your calculations are wrong.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:28 pm

In post 2585, MathBlade wrote:Scum Vax here if PGO and visited claims it here almost always. There’d be no downside.

So if Vax is town or scum he almost certainly didn’t get visited by Flea. That I believe.

Maybe Flea didn't send a night action? Fae was not feeling well.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:33 pm

In post 2589, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2586, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2579, MathBlade wrote:So no we can’t invite people.

So if you’re town then DGB almost certainly becomes scum.

And because G likely isn’t the killer (must as I hate his mechanics stupidity) then DGB likely didn’t stop the kill unless there’s four scum.

However getting town to take that leap of faith is really hard.
I am town. So somewhere your calculations are wrong.
Assume Vax is town.

How does he not get Flea’s notification (and don’t say mod error)?

(1) Flea may not have sent a night action. Fae was feeling very poorly.
(2) Flea might have chosen another target. Has everyone checked in?
(3) Flea might have targeted scum, and they're not telling.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:40 pm

In post 2595, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2590, Infinity 324 wrote:If someone got a fruit or w/e from flea they should claim it

Otherwise I don't see how vax is town. Scum would've had to block and kill flea right?
Exactly my point.

Scum Vax would 100% claim visited here. Even if he wasn’t because he’d be the elim either way he has nothing to lose.

The fact he claimed not visited means it’s probably a setup with DGB blocking flea. It probably took it a step too far.

I didn't block Flea, why would I do that?

If I were scum here, the optimal choice is to allow Flea to target Vax.

(1) Flea dies trying
(2) Flea doesn't die and Vax gets speed-yeeted.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:42 pm

There has been a lot of disrespect for Guillotina and I am not on board with it. It's not fun to watch, please stop.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:43 pm

With all due respect, MathBlade, your calculations are wrong. Maybe you're trying to figure things out too quickly and losing track of the big picture.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:44 pm

In post 2610, Vaxkiller wrote:Who did you block? Did you claim that already?

I blocked Guillotina.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:47 pm

In post 2614, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2606, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2595, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2590, Infinity 324 wrote:If someone got a fruit or w/e from flea they should claim it

Otherwise I don't see how vax is town. Scum would've had to block and kill flea right?
Exactly my point.

Scum Vax would 100% claim visited here. Even if he wasn’t because he’d be the elim either way he has nothing to lose.

The fact he claimed not visited means it’s probably a setup with DGB blocking flea. It probably took it a step too far.
I didn't block Flea, why would I do that?

If I were scum here, the optimal choice is to allow Flea to target Vax.

(1) Flea dies trying
(2) Flea doesn't die and Vax gets speed-yeeted.
That’s assuming Vax is PGO in all worlds.
If Vax is not PGO (which you doubted) then he’d need a way to prevent the visit if he’s ascetic which is where you fit in.

That's an example of bad calculation.

In (2), if Flea doesn't die, it's ostensibly because Vax lied and is not PGO.

I know we're excited about solving the game quickly but let's not have mistakes lead us astray.

Sleep on it?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:12 pm

In post 2666, MathBlade wrote:but I would rather elim DGB

I'm town. Get back to work.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:12 am

Jackson, I am conftown to you.

I stopped the scum's NK, no one knows this more clearly than you.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:35 pm

In post 3173, Noraa wrote:Mom and Math probably got some sort of incriminating night action on DGB.

It's impossible, I am town and a roleblocker.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:41 pm

In post 3181, Noraa wrote:Ok I see what ur saying. DGB would probably doubt Guillo before thinking vax's claim is fake.

I was very disconnected yestergameday, I had a lot going on personally and I do have a soft spot for both Guillo and MB.

I can't rationally explain my thinking because it was not rational.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:42 pm

In post 3185, Noraa wrote:
In post 3184, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3173, Noraa wrote:Mom and Math probably got some sort of incriminating night action on DGB.
It's impossible, I am town and a roleblocker.
Why was Vax's claim being fake more possible than guillo being blocked scum?

Both were equally possible.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:47 pm

I hardly pushed Vax, I barely posted. Kinda disconnected sitewide atm.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:57 pm

In post 3222, Momrangal wrote:Math and I disagreed on alot, but one thing we agreed on was Vax town

You were wrong.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:59 pm

In post 3159, Nero Cain wrote:Mathblade,
ranger,
has died night 3.

(could choose between tracking and rolecopping each night)

WHY does the role say nothing about masons????

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:01 pm

Clearly the ranger is not a mason.

The role PM doesn't lie.

What is going on here?

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:02 pm

Both Momrangal and MathBlade lied about being masons, but MathBlade is town.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:03 pm

?????????????

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:08 pm

Let's not assume, maybe they figured out in thread that they have the same role name and decided to fakeclaim masons.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:10 pm

Do you see "masons?"

It's in black and white, they are not masons.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:20 pm

In post 3237, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3234, Infinity 324 wrote:
Mod, was mathblade a mason?

yes

Never mind!

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:38 pm

Maybe it didn't cross your mind, Noraa, but it jumped out at me.

I did once fakeclaim masons with another townie... who went along with it

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:39 pm

In post 3247, Momrangal wrote:DBG

WHO

DID

YOU

BLOCK

NO

BODY

I

AM

LIMITED

SHOT

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:53 pm

In post 3261, Momrangal wrote:I don't trust DBG because she pulls this as scum very well. Like they just said, they got another townie to claim mason with them once upon a time

I was town!

DrippingGoofball · Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:57 pm

In post 3301, Noraa wrote:
In post 3299, DrippingGoofball wrote:was
O_O

In another game! (^_-)-☆

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:30 am

In post 3388, Noraa wrote:VOTE: DGB

Mom said it's right. It is right. She knew vax was town. She knows DGB is scum.

I am not scum, I told the truth about my role and actions, and neither mason actually said otherwise.

If anything, they know I'm telling the truth but they got caught up with feverish gambit speculation.

Everyone knows I fakeclaim, but I never gambit.

We are going to have to actually work to solve this game.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:32 am

In post 3396, Infinity 324 wrote:Yeah but if you think it's negative utility you shouldn't shoot right?

Except when there's obvious lurkercum like Pig, in which case you're doing the town a favor by sanitizing the streets from swine flu.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:38 am

Toog wasn't vig'ged???

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:39 am

In post 3388, Noraa wrote:VOTE: DGB

Mom said it's right. It is right. She knew vax was town. She knows DGB is scum.

I find it hard to believe that a townie would cast a vote here before anyone shows up, but this is Noraa and apparently no scumtell applies.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:52 am

Didn't JV claim one shot?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:55 am

Oh Lord I'm confusing people and games again, I need to lay off the bottle.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:00 am

Said the actual scum.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:48 pm

In post 3499, Infinity 324 wrote:I'm pretty sure we've established that one of DGB and noraa is scum.

It's Noraa. But for some reason everyone has been excusing her scum play since day 1.

In this game, you can be right as the day is long, but if you can't convince your team mates it's as good as being wrong. I take some of the blame for this failure.

What's worse is when a whole bunch of players decide to wave away objectively scummy play as "shrug, that's just Noraa."

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:52 pm

In post 3514, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3510, JacksonVirgo wrote:Noraa continues to contradict themselves. And I've already said why Guillo was likely Town regardless of the roleblock.
Hmm?

Me and mark absolutely could've hammered if we were the scumteam so that's not a possibility.

JV, I still don't think you have an explanation for n2 that makes sense. Noraa could've easily been roleblocked, meaning that DGB would have a fake guilty on her. So no killing or killing flea are immensely stupid if DGB is town and noraa is scum.

If I was scum I would have faked a guilty on Noraa.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:54 pm

In post 3520, Noraa wrote:
In post 3515, DrippingGoofball wrote:It's Noraa. But for some reason everyone has been excusing her scum play since day 1.
Notice how fast DGB's tone shifted from yesterday to today.

I am town and you know it.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:55 pm

In post 3523, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 3519, Noraa wrote:
In post 3512, JacksonVirgo wrote:ALso @Noraa. Which of Infinity/Mark do you think is scummier
Probably mark atm.
Didn't you say that you didn't think Momrangal's reads were right, which was DGB/Mark iirc. Why say you agree with them now?

I did not roleblock anyone last night.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:57 pm

No LOL I did not mean to.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:58 pm

We need calmer heads in here.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:01 pm

This is another example of scumNoraa exploiting a townie's naturally shifting reads and doubts and painting them as scummy, while in fact consistent, linear reads are a scumtell.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:03 pm

When a scum runs out of rational arguments, they yell out "U R BAD!"

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:08 pm

@infinity I blocked Guillo because Guillo was a polarizing figure and I was hoping to lock town that slot.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:10 pm

Mark needs to be here and read that case! He's gonna love it.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:27 pm

In post 3557, Infinity 324 wrote:100% sure that if DGB is town here it's because scum literally forgot to submit a kill.

PEdit: see above, I'm 100% sure scum don't no kill or kill flea n2 if DGB is town. That would be certifiably insane.

Why didn't the scum just kill Flea?

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:34 pm

Too often players fancy complex explanations where simple incompetence would do.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:41 pm

Your case on me idms basically that I am bleeding green.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:42 pm

In post 3568, JacksonVirgo wrote:I thought you were making a case on Mark

Her case on me is literally that I am town.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:14 pm

In post 3577, Noraa wrote:DGB jumps on all wagons with good potential.
>>> not even close to being true.

Is super super vague when it comes to Pig(null/scumread back and forth)
>>> total misrep, Pig was a massive lurker and that's why I RB'd him.

never really pushes pig
>>> I didn't want to reveal my result until after claim, I made that very clear in my first few posts of the day.

has weird reactions to things(ie when you claimed the shot, dgb should immediately think pig is scum if they are a town RBer)
>>> totally subjective

tries to save pig("is this the only possibility" is asking if there is any other possibility that their scum buddy is town)
>>> by "other possibility" I mean a protective role and everyone knew this

pushes me occasionally; basically I'm a park vote(except dgb rarely votes me)
>>> so what?

votes me and shades me for a claim
>>> so what?

pushes a shit ton of people for a claim(infinity, vax, me)
>>> that's completely false, there are many players I didn't push and you can only name three LOL

unvotes me after I claim vt which makes no sense
>>> I was pressuring you to vote and you are being disingenuous suggesting otherwise.

keeps shading me by saying I need to pull out my fake claim
>>> so what

overall, lots of provoking and overconfidence in town slots being scum, weak pushes on pig, always going with consensus.
>>> that's just completely untrue and you know it because you're scum and you're trying to make a shit case so someone votes me and you can hammer me.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:14 pm

In post 3590, JacksonVirgo wrote:Noraa I am actually getting sick of you putting words in my mouth

She's scum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:11 am

I am working on my case. Give me a couple of hours.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:11 am

I got this, Yellowstone family.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:40 am

Noraa's Day 1:

We all remember Noraa's bizarre 99% scumread on Flea that she promised to explain later, but always pushed back against doing even though she was pressed about it by more than one players. She always answer with a variation of "later" but at some point said that she didn't want to reveal some that 99% reliable meta on Flea. Take note that this Flea scumread comes right on the heels of Flea scumreading Vaxkiller's predecessor.

In post 103, Noraa wrote:
In post 93, Flea The Magician wrote:VOTE: Llamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamaamamama
(now Vaxkiller)
Ok well im now
99% sure I have soul read on Flea
and I think they're scum.
Maybe
will explain why later.
A bit cautious treading in this territory cuz last I SRed Flea, they were town. Gimme some time to think.

In post 132, Noraa wrote:
In post 130, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Ok well im now 99% sure I have soul read on Flea and I think they're scum. Maybe will explain why later. A bit cautious treading in this territory cuz last I SRed Flea, they were town. Gimme some time to think.
No, you're gonna have to explain it now.

Nope. im not 100% sure yet so im not dropping meta tells just so Flea can change it up
. Once its a pattern, it'll click better.

In post 136, Noraa wrote:
I will drop it sometime day 1. just wait patiently.

In post 153, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 110, Marky Mark wrote:Please tell me about how my pg 3 vote is an overreaction as opposed to trying to work with the limited information we have.

Feels like between this and the meta tell on Flea, Noraa has been avoiding answering questions so far.
Why the cold shoulder Noraa?

Noraa's response to Mark politely and reasonably asking for explanations is to aggressively shut him down, accusing him of "shading people" without bothering providing evidence, and slamming him with a vote. I would say it's extremely unlikely that Mark is Noraa's scumpal. This is beyond bus'ing/distancing.

In post 164, Noraa wrote:
In post 153, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 110, Marky Mark wrote:Please tell me about how my pg 3 vote is an overreaction as opposed to trying to work with the limited information we have.
Feels like between this and the meta tell on Flea, Noraa has been avoiding answering questions so far. Why the cold shoulder Noraa?
I find it extremely interesting that u've shaded three people already and its like page 6.

I answered.
I believe that what they did was not deserving of that vote but Jacko is special cuz their town meta matches up with votes not always making sense.

You however, don't get the benefit of the doubt cuz I've never played with u before.

I've said multiple times why my meta tell isnt gonna be dropped quite yet. Why push it?

VOTE: Mark

More gratuitous accusations of "shading":

In post 218, Noraa wrote:
In post 197, Marky Mark wrote:I wasn't actively trying to hunt scum?
the problem is that I think ur shading people not hunting scum.

Now, this is the kicker.

After being pressured to explain that 99% scum should read on Flea, resisting several times, making up a answer about meta, browbeating Mark, she flips it and reads Flea as town after a kaomoji cyber hug. But really, she was looking for an escape for the scum pickle she created for herself.

In post 215, Noraa wrote:
In post 193, Flea The Magician wrote:
ʕ•ૅૄ•ʔ

Do you need a chaos hug nornor?
╲ʕ·ᴥ·　╲ʔ
T^T yesh pls.
*accidentally fell into flea's pocket*
well ... shit

TL;DR
Noraa paints town!Flea as scum for no reason, when called out on it, badgers the people that demand answers, then coyly retracts her fake Flea scumread.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:41 am

Going through Noraa's iso is a very painful process but someone has got to do it if we're going to win this game. I'm not even done with Day 1.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:56 am

Noraa's Day 1, cont'd:

After badgering Mark for questioning her about her Flea read, voting Mark, and coyly retracting her Flea read, Noraa gets out of trouble by unvoting Mark.

When one skips all the cutesy posts and gets down to the bone, one begins to understand how she operates as scum and gets away with it.

Noraa's scumplay is a combination of relentless spamming and aggressive browbeating, cloaked in girly pink cake fondant.

In post 227, Noraa wrote:Lemme try that again lol

*AHEM*

Alright after all that and a reread on Mark, im feeling better about mark even though it may not seem like it due to my last few posts. Overall, im liking the answers he's giving and yeah!

UNVOTE:

Now that she has extirpated herself from well earned scrutiny through combative tactics, she turns things around and begins to sow chaos - see details in my next post.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:05 am

Noraa's Day 1, cont'd - seizing the narrative:

This global read comes in on

page 5

, so an early attempt for scum to seize the narrative. Look at how brazen it is:

In post 105, Noraa wrote:
town bin:
Llama (now Vaxkiller)
,
Jacko, Horsewoman

scum bin:
Marky
,
Flea

JacksonVirgo is conftown to me, and Mark is conftown by virtue of Noraa's frankly hostile interactions with Mark.

Her townbin AND scumbin are 100% townies.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:31 am

Noraa's Day 1, cont'd - creating chaos:

Just like that, let's vote a townie! Maybe it'll catch on. If not, there's an "out" built in, the "for a bit" escape route.

In post 313, Noraa wrote:Btw, my vote is gonna go here for a bit.
VOTE: Guillotina

Aggressively taunting Guillotina:

In post 319, Noraa wrote:
In post 317, Guillotina wrote:By the way, you don't get town points for OMGUSing me after I said why I think town would or should.

OMGUS is a term created by wolves to discredit town hunches on votes against them.
you just called urself scum lol.

Badgering townies for doing what she does all the time (note that without the vote, it would be a perfectly reasonable and civil conversation:

In post 525, Noraa wrote:
In post 433, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Momrangal
why not
VOTE: DGB
explain your vote pls.

JacsonVirgo calls out Noraa for preparing herself for a quick retraction, Noraa meekly backs out and votes... another townie.

In post 553, Noraa wrote:
In post 550, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 548, Noraa wrote:
In post 546, JacksonVirgo wrote:Why are people using votes like this. Saying that Gill is scummier defeats the original purpose of voting DGB.
I just want an answer from DGB.
It looks like either you are wasting your vote or you're preparing yourself for a quick retraction
Not really but if it makes you feel better or something, VOTE: Guillo
DGB, I still want the answer.

The point is to say that I want an answer and DGB is a very possible vote candidate. I could swap DGB in for Guillo if DGB ever starts obvscumming.
My preference atm is Guillo but DGB can easily change that.

JacksonVirgo again calls out Noraa, this time for voting her town read. Her answer? Some slippery playstyle vs. personality duality. I say "slippery" because Noraa knows that no one can ask for proof of concept of Guillotina's "playstyle vs. personality." It's unprovable nonsense and extremely effective at getting people to back off as they throw their hands up dealing with spam and illogical gobbledygook.

In post 584, Noraa wrote:
In post 558, JacksonVirgo wrote:Did you not literally just say they're probably Town?
if its a playstyle thing.
if its personality, then no.

When scumread, Noraa switches off the belligerence and turns on the cutesy 5 yr old:

"me no like SR on me cutesy emoji"

In post 669, Noraa wrote:You feel like a robot this game. me no like the SR on me >:(

Noraa jumps on an opportunity to vote ANOTHER TOWNIE.

In post 936, Noraa wrote:
In post 696, Toogeloo wrote:UNVOTE: VOTE: momrangal
This vote is not ok after a mason claim.
VOTE: Toog

TL;DR
We observe how she exclusively directs her aggression against townies, navigates around threats to her survival (scum reads on her) with infantile posts meant to disarm her accusers, and protects her scum team by directing the vig to shoot into a 3 player pool, two of which are town. This may be the ONE time she even mentions a partner.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:32 am

Noraa's Day 1, cont'd - directing the vig:

This post right here is a huge blinking marquee of scum behavior. Scum fears vigs most of all - rightly so, as one scum was vig'ged in this game. Why wouldn't an aggressive player like Noraa boldly direct the vig?

In post 957, Noraa wrote:
In post 796, JacksonVirgo wrote:If we have a vigilante, I recommend shooting in the low-posters to clear the null-tier. The scummy players and the townie players sort themselves out more or less where I've seen null tier stay null and loses us the game.
Vig should shoot either Toog, Infinity, or DGB.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:47 am

Noraa's Day 1, cont'd - going after townies and claiming incompetence:

You can feel the rage at being rightly scumread in each word; it's plain aggression to get me to back off.

In post 997, Noraa wrote:
DGB is scum for the really shitty read on me
and constant misrep of my meta, the gamestate, and stuff I've said in the game. Also that first reads list was far too early in the game and looked terribly fake.

Guillotina is scum for what is a big honking town tell of poking around wagons:

In post 997, Noraa wrote:
Guillo is scum for jumping around the game and poking and prodding at almost every single existing wagon.
This is something I realized recently but scum will push everywhere in search for softer weaker spots to start wagon. They just jump around until they can find a comfy wagon to sit on. guillo fits this description perfectly.
1) the people he has pushed are all over the place. Every other second it changes.
2) he's always fine with compromises.
3) hes searching for comfy wagons. he's scum.
Infinity is scum for the OMGUS and his vibe is off. I think he's really late reaction to the mason claim was really telling cuz it felt like scum being like "I wanna first hear what other people have to say about it"

This is perhaps a weak point but I will include it anyway. MathBlade speaks to Noraa with authority, and she backs off. She votes infinity, but insists that it's equivalent to Guillotina.

In post 1017, Noraa wrote:
In post 1015, MathBlade wrote:It won’t and if it did it would be stupid.

Stop working against me please and we agree infinity is scum and push there if you hate the horse woman wagon.

I will fight to not elim my town reads here.
Infinity is as good as guillo imo.

VOTE: Infinity

This is revealing. Noraa scumreads town!Guillo because she finds that Guillo is essentially behaving exactly like her own scum!self. It's absolutely fascinating from a psychological scum hunting perspective.

In post 1041, Noraa wrote:No I think guillo is almost certainly scum here.

Reading his ISO basically everyone starts out Null/TR. The moment you disagree, u get moved down. Once there are too many people moved down, he just randomly moves a few back up. Ie Toog, Mark.

This is not towny at all. I don't see how anyone can scum read Guillo here.

He keeps hard SRing Horse yet he seems so fine with dropping that read instantly. Like the moment consensus shifts, he's like BYE.

He says meta is trash but then its fine to use it to justify a TR on horse?

I just think he's trying way too hard to blend into consensus and form consensus himself as well.

And now we return to the five year old persona. Is it to soften how she switched from 99% soul scumread to totally town on Flea after being pressured?

"The "last time I was vig I shot half the town"

is a convenient excuse that will later explain how she badgered/scumread townie after townie after townie.

In post 1101, Noraa wrote:maybe I'm just special cuz I don't see how flea's posting is scummy.

I think I am just special :3

last time I was vig I shot half the town prs :333

Could this be Noraa's scumpal Infinity telling her to get back to voting me?

In post 1240, Noraa wrote:
In post 1225, Infinity 324 wrote:Help me bus DGB
Sure thing!
VOTE: DGB
Now you just need to jump on as well and bus that buddy of urs.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:48 am

And I am finished DAY 1.

I'm going to take a bit of rest and tackle Day 2 in a couple of hours.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:52 am

Note to self

day 2 = Dec 22-23
day 3 = Dec 26-30
day 4 = Dec 30-31

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:01 pm

In post 3673, Marky Mark wrote:still keen to hear from DGB why they neglected to mention the gated aspect of their PR until the gate had actually kicked in.

I debated with myself about whether I should claim the gate or not since I outed myself so early in the game. Would it be useful to make the scum slightly more inclined to NK me, yes/no? I didn't see anything to make it swing either way so a lot of the delay was decision paralysis rather than strategy.

I'm off for some sup' and relaxation and I'll continue my case for Day 2 and beyond. Day 2 was short but Noraa's behavior was at a scummy peak - it'll be a good one.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:07 pm

Noraa's Day 2:

After JacksonVirgo claims the kill on Toogeloo, I realize that I may have stopped the kill by roleblocking Pig and announce it in thread that I may have some information, Noraa switches gears completely and claims to have fallen behind.

Is she in a stalling pattern waiting to see what we've got because she doesn't know how to position herself yet?

In post 1395, Noraa wrote:My god. so many posts.
I'll catch up tomorrow. too lazy.

In post 1511, Noraa wrote:truth be told
I'm not caught up
since like 20 pages ago or something

In post 1551, Noraa wrote:can y'all
stawp spamming.
I can't keep uppp

In post 1581, Noraa wrote:no shit its day 2 why tf would we mass claim?

In post 1582, Noraa wrote:
can someone fill me in
on the important stuff that happened in the last like 20 pages or something?

In post 1583, Noraa wrote:Also, I was right about horsewoman and imma be snarky about it

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:12 pm

Jackson claims the kill first thing in the gamemorning, this is Noraa's ordering of probabilities:

NUMBER ONE

is scum randomly claims the kill.

LAST

is what actually happened.

In post 1601, Noraa wrote:
In post 1591, AGamblingPig wrote:
In post 1585, Noraa wrote:who claimed vig? the masons are confirmed now and who are they?
Jackson claimed responsibility for the Toog kill.
Ohhhh. Ok so possibilities are

1) Jacko is scum

2) Jacko and scum double killed toog (Trust me this is possible. Last time I was vig, the scums and me killed the same person and that's why the doc on that person didn't work)
3) Jacko is vig and something happened to the scum kill

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:13 pm

In post 3678, JacksonVirgo wrote:Mark is awfully fencesitty

That's classic Mark though.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:25 pm

Noraa's Day 2 - throws spaghetti on MathBlade to see if it sticks:

Here MathBlade makes a post about being indecisive. Noraa aggressively jumps on him asking "how did this all CHANGE SO FAST?" which is an interesting accusation given that this is what she does as scum.

In post 1608, Noraa wrote:
In post 1605, MathBlade wrote:I am not sure if he’s scum or not. I kinda wanna see where this plays out. I think he probably is but am not like sure sure.
how did this all change so fast?

Noraa digging into a townie for misreading another townie:

In post 1613, Noraa wrote:
In post 1610, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1608, Noraa wrote:
In post 1605, MathBlade wrote:I am not sure if he’s scum or not. I kinda wanna see where this plays out. I think he probably is but am not like sure sure.
how did this all change so fast?
It’s a bit antitown to say atm. Just trust me something is up and I am trying to figure it out.
I'll trust whoever I want to trust tyvm. I don't trust you for your stubbornness when I over and over said horse was town.

In post 1619, Noraa wrote:Also my TR on Math has disappeared. the main reason for my TR was bc I thought he was softing vig and that it would be provable. But now that Jacko claimed vig, that no longer applies.

Look at the self-contradiction.

Noraa claims to have townread MB because he had softed vig. Here is MathBlade vigorously pushing back that he's softing something else AND THAT DOES NOT RESTORE NORAA's townread!

In post 1623, Noraa wrote:
In post 1621, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1619, Noraa wrote:Also my TR on Math has disappeared. the main reason for my TR was bc I thought he was softing vig and that it would be provable. But now that Jacko claimed vig, that no longer applies.
Oh I was softing but not that

Go for it.

Push me.

C’mon I dare you. Lol
TR disappear doesn't equal SR....

why are you so damn defensive?!!?!??!

In post 1628, Noraa wrote:Im not suspicious of you.
My reason to TR you is gone and now you are a null.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:33 pm

In post 3683, Infinity 324 wrote:Who's scum with noraa DGB? And why did you block guillo n2 over noraa?

I was already out as a RB and there was no way that Noraa was going to perform the kill given how I had been reading her.

As I explained earlier, I thought it might be more useful to confirm Guillotina being town.

In fact there was only one kill that night, and Guillotina should have been able to coast as conftown until end game. My plan should have worked.

But the masons and other players got it into their heads that there was some galaxy brain plot when Occam's Razor would have dictated that scum simply killed Flea that night.

Why? Maybe they didn't want Vax to be confirmed PGO; maybe they didn't trust Flea to target Vax? I don't know. But with hindsight and Guillotina having flipped town, we can be pretty confident that scum NK'd Flea.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:41 pm

Noraa's Day 2 - a bit of claim stall:

In post 1879, Noraa wrote:
In post 1875, Momrangal wrote:Ur next on the claim train.

Summary given

Pedit: @nora
as in I need to claim rn?

In post 1883, Noraa wrote:who claimed before me?
if only like 2 people, I'm not claiming cuz that's stupid. I'm townie than most this plist

In post 1904, Noraa wrote:
In post 1901, Momrangal wrote:Not yet.

I'm at nora. Should the fairy claim

Pedit: lol, this was to DBG
VT.

That was a lot of hesitation just to claim VT, which would be

very unusual for an actual Vanilla townie.

She sounds flustered about having to come up with a fakeclaim,

my theory is that she is the scum PR.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:51 pm

In post 3689, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3683, Infinity 324 wrote:Who's scum with noraa DGB?

It's between you and Mark.

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:39 am

In post 3748, Noraa wrote:This is what's happened this game:

Night 1:
Jacko killed toog
scum killed toog

Night 2:
Vax "killed" flea

scum no killed

Night 3
scum killed math

Night 4
scum killed mom

INCORRECT.

You guys N'killed Flea.

It's that simple.

And now you are trying to muddy the waters.

It won't work.

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:39 am

In post 3734, Infinity 324 wrote:Ok so it's mark/DGB.

VOTE: DGB

Found Noraa's partner

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:44 am

I see both scum voting me right now.

Getting a little impatient aren't they?

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:21 am

Great attentive modding by Nero Cain!

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:22 am

Thanks to my partners JV & AGP.

The town played a really solid game.

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:23 am

In post 3887, AGamblingPig wrote:Yay, my sacrifice was not in vain!!!

You were a really good sport, thanks for playing along.