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[Galron]

HODL> 3


VOTE: a gambling pig

[Galron]

Those who slaughter the innocent must be punished!

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VOTE: OutWorldER

This seems centered.

[Galron]

Found one to give percentages.


Wonder where this goes

Forgot to tick "fit to printer margins"

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VOTE: frogsterking personality tests are pseudoscience

This is the correct answer.

VOTE: forgsterking

[Galron]

NPOM is making sense. That should probably ping me, but it seems okay.

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This is going to be a long game if we have to do all 19, 035 frames.

[Galron]

By the way I think for Day 1 I want to try to townblock and have a group of voices I trust to bounce ideas off of

I'm not getting anything out of the personality testing. I think we should go back to this.

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VOTE: LunarMartian

Right now my main scum reads are LunarMartian and NoPowerOverMe.

Between these two I find LunarMartian the most sketch.

Everyone else I read as town so far.

Wait. Is your default to read as town and go from there?

And how is this:

By the way I have drawn town 9 out of 10 times and that sucks because I love playing as scum.

Something feels off about this post.

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

scummy?

[Galron]

NPOM is making sense. That should probably ping me, but it seems okay.

I don't quite understand where this is coming from.

This is the first npom game we've had where I haven't wanted to meet him by this point.

[Galron]

NPOM is making sense. That should probably ping me, but it seems okay.

I don't quite understand where this is coming from.

This is the first npom game we've had where I haven't wanted to meet him by this point.

Yeet

[Galron]

By the way I think for Day 1 I want to try to townblock and have a group of voices I trust to bounce ideas off of

I'm not getting anything out of the personality testing. I think we should go back to this.

I consider this a clear stance of siding with NoPowerOverMe and I'm not sure how to word this but "weakening" Frogsterking and his unique approach to mafia. I'm not sure what to make of this at the moment and I'll have to continue thinking about it.

Do you think npom and I are buddies?

[Galron]

Currently I am thinking that a possible scum team could look something like NoPowerOverMe/Galron/Grendel.
This is solely based on their interactions and assuming that one is scum and trying to connect the dots after that. I am not confident but I'd like to say this for future reference for myself.

I guess you do. Good for you.

[Galron]

Let's see where this goes.

VOTE: Trendl

What would you do for a Klondike bar?

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The assumptions I'm running on are that 3/3 scum are all in the low activity end, because they aren't sure how to lie yet and are reacting to their own lies

Scum have no need to lie early game in general.

Low activity posters reacting to their own lies? If they're not posting they're not lying.

Your implication that the low activity posters are inexperienced at scum is dreadfully faulty and supported by nothing.

Your assumptions and early posting are vapid attempts at intellectual prowess that seemed to be designed to mislead. I think you're likely scum.

[Galron]

I want to see more from Trendl and a couple others before we eliminate you.

[Galron]

GB I'm v/la through Sunday

[Galron]

NPOM is making sense. That should probably ping me, but it seems okay.

i think this implies either they are in a hood together or that there is a strong history of these two together

We've been in a few games together. I guess this means there are hoods this game.

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Amélie is probably Town .

[Galron]

Frog's lack of reaction to my scumread leans me town on Frog.

[Galron]

I'm not convinced wagons on bugs or npom are worth pursuing atm. They're both cryptic early gamers. Bugs we can ring up, but I don't know that we accomplish anything by pushing to claim. Npom sounds like his claim will be mundane.

Sigh...

I guess I should move just to get wagons moving

VOTE: lunar

[Galron]

I personally don't see much of a town Bloc.

[Galron]

I"m good with executing Lunar Martian, especially after that last paranoid post where he though Luca was talking about him. That sounds like a caught (and not paranoid town) maf.

[Galron]

I don't think game solving on Day 1 is all that helpful. It's more distracting than anything. Let's get an elimination and a night under our belts and then assess where we're at.

[Galron]

Can we consolidate on Lunar and Bugspray? I'm less convinced that Bugs is scum than Lunar, but there seems to be a lack of focus and we need to elim someone. My take on Bugs is pure meta. I haven't seen anything different from them this game than others I've been in with them. They're almost always on the rack early game -- it's a style thing with Bugs I think. Lunar, on the other hand, just feels scummy to me, a dose of AtE along with caught in the headlights.

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I think Orem deserves a closer look.

[Galron]

We're just discussing if the fake claim is viable or not. I'm leaning no, because he hasn't been very active and I feel with a lame role like backup neighbor he'd be more active.

who are you talking about? my pronouns are they/them

I'm sorry, I don't check a players pronoun every time I make a post. You seem more concerned about your pronouns than finding scum though.

Bugs consistently gets this treatment. Stop it.

[Galron]

I'm willing to go Oram or Lunar Martian.

[Galron]

Claim

[Galron]

It's about too late to claim and cfd. I'd say you're good to hammer npom. 6 hours left.

[Galron]

I agree that outworlder needs an eyeball tonight whoever is able to provide that.

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I'd join you on VOTE: Lunar Martian

[Galron]

I'm still agnostic on Bugs tbh, probably town lean. Their willingness to share info from the hood but only after getting the okay doesn't seem like something mafia would do.

[Galron]

The more I look at Lunar's recent, the less I want to eliminate there today. They're starting to look like defensive town rather than defensive scum.

UNVOTE: Lunar Martian

[Galron]

I'm more confident in Trendall than in bugs, but if no one else is going to vote bugs today I'll switch. Could I ask everyone to give me a reason they don't want to vote Trendall though?

I think Trendell and Bugs are both town.

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I'm suspicious of the people who want to get rid of Bugs, who is a conduit to the hood, but not Gamma. It wasn't until recently that Gamma even shared anything from the hood, if I recall correctly.

[Galron]

I'm missing the momrangel guilty somewhere.

[Galron]

Would someone point out the guilties against bugs and momrangel and what supports them? I don't see Frogster's crumb.

[Galron]

Thanks Luca.

[Galron]

I think we've decided in the hood to just go ahead and lay it out. We've got enough information in the main thread now that we can make an intelligent decision.

The hood started with Trendall, Amelie and me. Amelie dies, and Bugs & Gamma show up.

Amelie's town obviously. I was thinking before she died that Trendall may be scum, but I was coming around to him being town and it being an all-town hood because believing Bugsy's claim that they were backup neighbor it makes no sense from a balance standpoint to send in a scum backup or a traitor into a hood that already contains scum. But then Gamma showed up, and that threw a wrench into it. It didn't change my read on Trendall, but it led me to think either that one of Bugs or Gamma may be scum or that we still had an all-town hood. So I'm kind of doing this at the hood's peril, but if there is scum in the hood, town needs this information.

In the hood I've been town reading Trendall and Bugs, and more recently leaning townish on Gamma, with reservations on the latter. Bugs was willing to be a spokesperson and passed along some information and made sure to ask what we wanted passed along, and they've just generally been solvy to the point of raising concerns about me more recently. Trendall is extremely solvy in the hood. So I don't think it's a good idea to eliminate Trendall or Bugs ( caveat: I need to learn more about this guilty that frogster has -- I don't see a crumb but I've been moving through the thread pretty quickly).

And it should also be known that Amelie wanted to pass along that she was townreading momrangel, but with Grendel's guilty, that depends on how much everyone trusts Grendel.

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Starting to suspect a Grendel/Luca team.

[Galron]

It seems to me that Galron has gone out of his way to defend Bugs/deflect attention away from them on a few occasions.

This is true. I've defended Bugs. I think he's town.

[Galron]

It seems to me that Galron has gone out of his way to defend Bugs/deflect attention away from them on a few occasions.

This is true. I've defended Bugs. I think he's town.

That was shade out of nowhere with no follow-up from Luca.

[Galron]

Who first brought up the idea that Amelie wasn't the NK target? I've seen it from Frogster and Luca. I think at least one other person. In my experience it's rare that the shot is deflected elsewhere. I don't know how this theory got started, but I'm suspicious.

[Galron]

Acknowledging day start. Don't flip. I need to catch up.

[Galron]

Sorry. I haven't been pulling my weight. Skimmed the last few pages. All I can say is bugspray probably isn't scum here. I think we're looking at a Luca-led team. I just haven't had an opportunity to put it all together yet.

[Galron]

I mean, bugs claimed backup neighbor. A neighbor was killed, and bugs became a neighbor. Gamma claimed backup neighbor (in the hood) also. For bugs to be traitor, bugs would've had to have not known about Gamma. It's possible either bugs or gamma (or both -- really doubt) are scum. Of the two, looking at the mechanics, it would make more sense for Gamma to be the mafia member just because if there was a town backup neighbor and a scum backup neighbor, and neither knows that the other role exists, for bugs to claim backup neighbor under pressure to do so seems too pure. And then there was no cc from Gamma. I've been town reading Gamma, so I don't know that that's AI, but if we're comparing the two, I think it's more likely Gamma's scum than Bugs.

[Galron]

VOTE: Luca

Doing this so Luca can make an omgus claim.

[Galron]

wait did i accidentally leak hood info? woops

Anything in the hood is fair game as far as I'm concerned.

[Galron]

I claimed the green check on NPOM's slot.

[Galron]

I claimed investigative Night 1, before bugspray or gamma were in the hood.

[Galron]

I claimed the green check on NPOM's slot.

I claimed investigative Night 1, before bugspray or gamma were in the hood.

You claimed invest during N1? Why would you do that?

Why would you invest NPOM who was one or the townier slots in the game? Why not invest Frogster who you seemed more suspicious of?

Out of 12 players to choose from, I narrowed it down to wanting to confirm the so-called town bloc or the people who had claimed, and NPOM overlapped, so he was a good place to start.

You can figure out why I claimed and the timing of the claim if you try hard enough.

As far as other claims, I'll leave that to the other hood members. I have more results, yes, but I don't want to let the cat out of the bag yet. You asked about Amelie, she played very close to the vest.

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Good going Lunar & Luca. That was a hell of a setup Datisi. The two mafia backup neighbors really messed with me. And really nice job Gamma. I thought you were going to pull it out.