One Night Stand [Game Over]

[Alisae]

Yo I’m pumped I randed masons with MT

[Alisae]

I’m joking I’m not actually a mason but I’m town i swear i would never lie to ywall
VOTE: ahsoka

[Alisae]

Also before I go lurk away the day I’m in a hood with like 4 other players and I’m not sure if I should out the hood cuz it could contain scum in it.
Thoughts?

[Alisae]

Also my neighborhood is a nightclub
How awesome is that!

[Alisae]

[Alisae]

[Alisae]

how could you support someone who named themselves after a terrorist organization hello?

[Alisae]

if they're willing to name themselves after a terrorist organization then that must mean they support it!

[Alisae]

honestly it says a lot about you as a person tbh

[Alisae]

no balls

[Alisae]

do it u won't

[Alisae]

look we all wanna simp for kanna i get it but ywall need to understand that the only person that's allowed to simp for kanna is me ok

any truers?

[Alisae]

VOTE: uncrowned

[Alisae]

scum!crowned caught d1 boyz read em and weep lets go

[Alisae]

DID YOU JUST SEE THAT

THIS GUY IS SCUMCLAIMING RIGHT NOW

GO GET HIM BOYZ

[Alisae]

IF I DON'T SEE VOTES ON HIM RIGHT NOW UR ASS IS GRASS MAN

[Alisae]

Why are you tryharding on this joke so much? Serious question.

im not
why do you think its tryharding

[Alisae]

ig im just bad at shitposting

[Alisae]

if ur concern is me taking up 3-4 posts for a joke you should see my posts in the nightclub
i think my spam shitposting is like 2 pages worth in there at least.

[Alisae]

i can't shitpost on command but i appreciate the offer

[Alisae]

WHAT

[Alisae]

Thats impossible!
No one has ever been able to vote Inifnity twice!

[Alisae]

Dam

[Alisae]

you're good

[Alisae]

you know every aspect of this game

[Alisae]

no way

[Alisae]

it's like you're playing on a perfect curve

[Alisae]

you must be some kind of mafia wizard

[Alisae]

That's a lot of words to use to say you're afraid of me.

Anyone who uses the word blatnat is scummy.

Come at me.

i don't think i see the word "blatnat" in her posts
sorry hopkirk mckirk

[Alisae]

for a mafia wizard and someone who knows everything about this game, you seem to be off on your game

[Alisae]

Captain
Hipkork

[Alisae]

Off you say?

I'm just pulling your leg

[Alisae]

Anyhow I'll let you get back to scumhunting
I'll be around later

[Alisae]

Ah, I thought you might be refering to the spewing of molten rage that I do when anyone dares suspect me. I'm not angry with Ahsoka yet, but they should still be made of fear.

Now why are you on my leg instead of on infinity soldier?

Captain, Sir!
I can command my squadron to move onto Infinity whenever, just say the order Sir!

[Alisae]

I may stay awake a bit to watch but I’m going to sleep
should be interesting to see how the game develops

[Alisae]

I may stay awake a bit to watch but I’m going to sleep
should be interesting to see how the game develops

the game's developing?

yes you’re doing a good job now go play your part like the actor you are
These players need to start being more proactive anyways and ur doing a good part in doing just that

[Alisae]

I'm just here to point out the poor discrediting you're doing.

You're doing it in a manner where you can back off and easily defend as joking, shit posting, but you're trying to gain control over the game in an extreme lighthearted way, but you are pushing an agenda.

Are you trying to play red? Is this what this alt is all about?

Like, ur accusing him of discrediting you in the manner that you’re suggesting, but like, wouldn’t it be better to see if he tried to commit to that play first?

[Alisae]

Well that's just unfortunate because I'd do it again anyways.

U sunofabitch

[Alisae]

Hopkirk is "trying to 1v1" but he's essentially just shit posting in his "1v1".

My vote is not RVS, as I don't participate generally in RVS, if that wasn't clear.

I'm not like confident he's scum or anything, but it's the correct path to pursue right now.

You have a read that strong eh?

[Alisae]

Spicy take: Alisae is scum.

have i played with you before?

[Alisae]

Spicy take: Alisae is scum.

have i played with you before?

Maybe

ig was hoping you would fetch me somethin to go off of. Dunno what I expected in retrospect. I’m just going to operate on the basis that I don’t know who you are (unless I should in which case I don’t cuz I’m dense).
Either way I can see how you would reach that conclusion (albeit wrong) so its fine you do you ig.

[Alisae]

Alisae, that's a similar comment when someone says "How is it a reaction test if you just told them it's a reaction test?" Doesn't matter if they know. If anything, it trips them up more.

Meh, thinking it through ig its fine.

[Alisae]

Either way I can see how you would reach that conclusion (albeit wrong) so its fine you do you ig.

I haven't explained anything yet

I mean I can imagine why you as scum would want to scumread my slot
And I imagine how you as town could come to the conclusion to scumread my slot given if I tried to look at my own slot and try to see what it was doing. The reasons themselves may not be what you’re thinking exactly, but that doesn’t really matter.

Either way I don’t play proactively anymore. Recently I feel like I play at my best when I play reactively and try to read the gamestate as well as player positioning.
I’ll be like this for awhile until I feel comfortable playing my hand.

[Alisae]

Either way I can see how you would reach that conclusion (albeit wrong) so its fine you do you ig.

I haven't explained anything yet

I mean I can imagine why you as scum would want to scumread my slot
And I imagine how you as town could come to the conclusion to scumread my slot given if I tried to look at my own slot and try to see what it was doing. The reasons themselves may not be what you’re thinking exactly, but that doesn’t really matter.

Either way I don’t play proactively anymore. Recently I feel like I play at my best when I play reactively and try to read the gamestate as well as player positioning.
I’ll be like this for awhile until I feel comfortable playing my hand.

At least not as town. Honestly the game is more enjoyable for me that way because I get to let the other players around me play their parts and I get to solve the puzzle.

As scum I have a meta of being extremely proactive early to try to establish thread control and dominance, as I proceed to not care about looking town and use the fact I’m scum to try to dirty my hands to get as much done as possible. Its a meta I’m not sure if I should try to maintain due to the fact that my slot because so easy to read and most players who know me know that this is how I play the game as scum and basically it only works on players who don’t know how I play.

[Alisae]

Either way Jesse I’m not asking you to care about my self meta that mostly everyone on the playerlist can verify
I’m informing you about it and allowing you to decide what to do with it, if that be let a sleeping bear sleep, poke pressure and pursue, or some third option that I’m too tired to think of.

[Alisae]

Hipkork I’ve only played against you when I was scum and you were town I think more then once actually but you might have been dead when I rep’d in and thats on a really secret secret alt I don’t think you would be able to find it.

I think aside from like those one or two games we’ve never been town together (yet) or I have not been given an opportunity to catch you (yet)

[Alisae]

Also if you did I would appreciate if you didn’t out it

[Alisae]

i dont think scum alisae could take thread control in this PL. the ego size in this thread is like 6x a normal large theme.

If I was actually scum honestly I would hate my life in this playerlist honestly. That or I adapt.

[Alisae]

i dont think scum alisae could take thread control in this PL. the ego size in this thread is like 6x a normal large theme.

If I was actually scum honestly I would hate my life in this playerlist honestly. That or I adapt.

what a lie

you love us :3

I mean yes I love everyone here honestly I shouldn’t have joined for reasons but the pl was too great to pass up I just couldn’t stop myself. But thats not my point here.

What is scum!Ali gonna do against a town!Kanna, town!Infinity, and towncrowned if they’re not all partners with me. Hell honestly, you could throw in hopkirk if he’s not partners with me or even yourself, you might find something fishy with me if I was scum just doing my usual powerwolf stuff. Like, scum!ali is going to try to do something, and they’re going to be met with 3 players who not only recently experienced powerwolfing!ali but also know how to read me super effectively, and will ALSO be extremely hard players to convince the village to kill if they are town.
Honestly maybe even you would think “wait a min, Ali seems like they’re trying to control the game just a bit too much”

If I’m scum its either sink or swim.
What do you think happens.

[Alisae]

Spicy take: Alisae is scum.

I felt like the neighborhood comment on page 1 was very open-ended, whereas ali likes to try to take control of the narrative as scum. If there's scum in hopkirk/flavor, based on eir play in relation to the 1v1, e's playing to eir town meta as well.

How is me playing to my town meta town indicative?

[Alisae]

It makes sense that ali would try to adapt this game, but it would be a hell of a smooth transition into a playstyle ali isn't used to if e is scum. E felt at home being relaxed early on which is ++town.

How hard do you think it would be for me to adapt?

[Alisae]

adapt or adapt in a natural looking way

Adapt in a natural looking way

[Alisae]

I don't have a read on pooky

PEdit: it would probably take some work and have some hiccups. It'd be cool if I was wrong, I know you have a strong scumgame, but to make a new attitude feel smooth takes practice y'know?

I would be lieing if I said I wasn’t worried about you reaching that conclusion a bit too quickly and that I feel like if you were town you would wait a bit longer before coming around to townreading me, but you could also just be town who just genuinely believes whatever you’re thinking, only of student council. In that you just posted what you were thinking at the time and you could just be thinking that I’m town for that. I still don’t see how you could reach that conclusion right away though given that mostly because I feel like that ur expectation that I would make hiccups early feels weird? I feel like if I was you trying to look for a scum!ali that’s adapting, I would wait a bit longer before writing it off but you don’t seem to be doing that now that I’m actually reading this.

Honestly this whole post could just be junk I am kinda tired after all

[Alisae]

Either way not enough evidence to figure out if ur town or scum, at least not yet.
tbh I should maybe try sleeping and see how the game develops.

[Alisae]

Btw before I sleep
should I be outing neighbors or not?

[Alisae]

No one actually answered my question so I’m going to ask again lol

[Alisae]

There could be scum tho

[Alisae]

Meh
I’ll do so later if i feel like scum is in it for sure ig
I probably will later if I feel like its needed, its a big hood after all its not like unlikely for scum to be in it.

[Alisae]

While I’m asleep, gun to head for whoever wants to answer.

How many scum do you think would be in a 5p hood in a 12p game?

I’ll leave that for the thread ig

[Alisae]

While I’m asleep, gun to head for whoever wants to answer.

How many scum do you think would be in a 5p hood in a 12p game?

I’ll leave that for the thread ig

Why are we both about to go to sleep at noon.

well i tried to sleep for like
an hour and like
30mins or something
didn't work out
but honestly, I'm not surprised considering we're basically bros

--

dear diary,

i confess, my heart is being pulled in all different directions. pooky offers what i want most—love, loyalty, and a midnight dance. sara said she’ll simp for me. however, for little logical reason, i think i’m falling in love with uncrowned; him claiming me as his on post 3 was just too swoonworthy. and they did say love is illogical. or maybe it is logical because he’s really handsome.

my true love; it’s me you want, it’s me, it’s always been me. cast any doubt from your mind; trust that i will see you. you’ll wait for me, won’t you? or perhaps deep in my heart i already know it’s you. don’t worry, love always find a way.



signed,
kanna

WHAT
MY QUEEN IS TAKING ANOTHER MAN OVER ME??????????

THATS IMPOSSIBLE THATS IT IM KILLING UNCROWNED

[Alisae]

OK I'm caught up. Ahsoka is one of my favorite fictional characters lol.

Let's get some bandwagons going shall we?

where do you want to begin

[Alisae]

why am i prob town

[Alisae]

why am i prob town

[Alisae]

hectic go claim a pagetop buddy you deserve it

[Alisae]

do you have any reads you want to share, ali?

I'll share something when I want to share something

[Alisae]

WHAT
MY QUEEN IS TAKING ANOTHER MAN OVER ME??????????

THATS IMPOSSIBLE THATS IT IM KILLING UNCROWNED

ALI THIS IS ILLEGAL BTW; YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE ME THIS HAPPY WITHOUT BEING MY MASON PARTNER

honestly, I think its more illegal that I'm making you this happy but you're still ignoring me over uncrowned do you know how that makes me feel? honestly I don't think its even worth trying anymore tbh i was only nice to you because i thought if i was nice you would give me attention like im just such a nice guy how could you possibly do this to me

[Alisae]

The reason why I voted flavor to begin with is because he seemed to be trying to control the narrative a bit, and I felt that he was trying to look town. Instead of just waiting to see how hopkirk would react to his posting, he made sure to say "Look guys, I'm watching to see how hopkirk reacts to this!" Ali pointed out a similar thing in 131.

What do you think of his response

I'm just here to point out the poor discrediting you're doing.

You're doing it in a manner where you can back off and easily defend as joking, shit posting, but you're trying to gain control over the game in an extreme lighthearted way, but you are pushing an agenda.

Are you trying to play red? Is this what this alt is all about?

Like, ur accusing him of discrediting you in the manner that you’re suggesting, but like, wouldn’t it be better to see if he tried to commit to that play first?

Alisae's town.

Nah, he got psyched out thinking he was going after a newbie.

This is also less about Hopkirk than it appears.

Alisae, that's a similar comment when someone says "How is it a reaction test if you just told them it's a reaction test?" Doesn't matter if they know. If anything, it trips them up more.

[Alisae]

Infinity is my beloved and while I am not convinced he is town, I would like more time to figure things out myself. We have 5 days. You people are way too rushed.

atm where is your head at?

[Alisae]

Infinity is my beloved and while I am not convinced he is town, I would like more time to figure things out myself. We have 5 days. You people are way too rushed.

atm where is your head at?

Pooky scum
Infinity scum

something like that but I'm not confident at all.

why pooky scum also what changed about me?

[Alisae]

Infinity is my beloved and while I am not convinced he is town, I would like more time to figure things out myself. We have 5 days. You people are way too rushed.

atm where is your head at?

Pooky scum
Infinity scum

something like that but I'm not confident at all.

why pooky scum also what changed about me?

do you not scumread pooky? He seems weird.

I didn't have an opinion as of writing that.

[Alisae]

we can townblock after i stop being paranoid about being killed night 1

what?

[Alisae]

ok but even if it wasn't a true lover and it was just flavoured neighbors it makes like no sense for there to be an S-S hood anyway.

it could be possible if there was 0 scum in my hood.
if that S-S hood is a thing anyways then it cashes in on the mod wine that the mod is trying to go for.
Now, I don't think Jesse v Infinity would make sense as an SvS but if there were multiple 2 player hoods in the game then it wouldn't be impossible I'd think.

pedit: i doubt scum was going to kill you so idunno why ur bringing attention to it but its whatever i suppose

[Alisae]

Our hood consists of {Me, MT, Uncrowned, ABR, and Mena}
I'm outing this because the only players I townread in the hood is MT but while I decided to maybe play my hand out at the start of the day, I'm going to wait on that. But I do think scum is in this hood and I have my eyes on everyone in the hood thats not MT.

[Alisae]

actually you know what, I'll out this since he played his hand
I suspect ABR
VOTE: ABR

His response to the Infinity flip was "How did this happen?" which is honestly just as bad as Creature posting "How can we solve this game?" I doubt anyone here will get that meme but regardless my point is that I don't really think he's trying to find scum tbh.

[Alisae]

btw MT what do you think of Mena's entrance into the hood?
Is it weird I think its strange or is that just me

[Alisae]

Our hood consists of {Me, MT, Uncrowned, ABR, and Mena}
I'm outing this because the only players I townread in the hood is MT but while I decided to maybe play my hand out at the start of the day, I'm going to wait on that. But I do think scum is in this hood and I have my eyes on everyone in the hood thats not MT.

i find it funny (hectic funny, not weird funny) that your explanation of why you're deciding to out the hood comes directly after MT outed the hood

actually you know what, I'll out this since he played his hand
I suspect ABR
VOTE: ABR

His response to the Infinity flip was "How did this happen?" which is honestly just as bad as Creature posting "How can we solve this game?" I doubt anyone here will get that meme but regardless my point is that I don't really think he's trying to find scum tbh.

any of this coming from in hood stuff, or all in thread? I have vaguel negative vibes on ABR so far

Ya the "How did this happen?" post happened in hood.

[Alisae]

what was the progression from "infinity null" > "let's speedwagon infinity"? i wonder if towncrowned is more cautious... i'd also like to know about why you seemed confident in town!flavour.

Apparently in hood he didn't think Infinity was all that scummy and was kinda just on the wagon for Infinity's reaction.

[Alisae]

I'm working with a relative

uncrowned, clidd, hopkirk, alisae town block.

I'm not going to explain these right now.

:/

[Alisae]

Our hood consists of {Me, MT, Uncrowned, ABR, and Mena}
I'm outing this because the only players I townread in the hood is MT but while I decided to maybe play my hand out at the start of the day, I'm going to wait on that. But I do think scum is in this hood and I have my eyes on everyone in the hood thats not MT.

Scum outting the hood for no reason.

FOS: alisae

I think there's scum in it.
How is it scummy

[Alisae]

My pool is [MT, Alisae, Hopkirk]

You're scumreading 2 people off Infinity wagon?

[Alisae]

I honestly don't know how you can reach that conclusion

[Alisae]

Like thats a conclusion that doesn't make sense to me at this given moment.

[Alisae]

Thats actually really weird because my meta on MT says that she's town

[Alisae]

Idunno dude
the conclusions you're reaching makes no sense.

Usually early D1 elims on town have a lot of scum participating on them and I don't know how you can conclude it was just 1 scum on the wagon.
Like your reaction to the Infinity elim is just bad, you suspect me for outing the neighborhood but that's not something thats scummy or townie and I don't know how you can insist that its scummy here when in general thats just a not alignment indicative thing.
It doesn't seem like ur trying to find scum so like whats going on?

[Alisae]

well whatever good luck bro

[Alisae]

you do you i honestly don't mind scum voting me tbh

[Alisae]

you do you i honestly don't mind scum voting me tbh

Paranoid much? No one is voting you

suspecting me voting me positioning around me whatever

[Alisae]

Mena, Ahsoka, and everyone else
idc who you think your allies are but like ABR is just obviously scum this play just doesn't make any sense from town tbh.

[Alisae]

Uncrowned

how do you actually have uncrowned this high that doesn't really make any sense tbh

[Alisae]

Mena why am I scummy?

[Alisae]

do you know what my scum meta is?

[Alisae]

I didn't play in smugglers

[Alisae]

I mean technically yes I called you an animal and a delusional player when I replaced in your scumslot because your scumgame is fucking awful and honestly it still is.
I still don't get how you can compare me to a game where I didn't even play when people just started to claim

Yet here you are trying to push me as scum and comparing me to a game where I did literally nothing and honestly, this game is more comparable to smugglers in that I'm not doing anything. I'm not trying to control the agenda or drive the narative. I'm not being proactive at all. My scumgame is a really proactive scumgame so saying that I'm in my scummeta when I'm clearly not like idunno if ur just scum or what.

Even in that game you're comparing me to, in Smugglers I did nothing but in the scumgame that you're talking about I had to be proactive.

[Alisae]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=83567

Literally whose name is second in the list?

just because I'm in the playerlist doesn't mean that I actually played the game
I stopped playing and AFK'd when claims came out

[Alisae]

Like I'm a very proactive scumplayer.
I'm playing reactively.

[Alisae]

Honestly my gameplay atm is a lot more similar to this game
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=84135
where whenever someone tried to justify a scumread on me I selfmeta'd and basically babyraged whenever anyone even thought I was scum because it was impossible for me to be scum given the circumstances.

[Alisae]

So I don't know how you're able to reach the conclusion that I'm in my scumgame mena and I don't really know whats going on with that lol

[Alisae]

just wagon me bro honestly

[Alisae]

i wanna see who pushes me

[Alisae]

I can't wait to see the batshit awful excuses people come up with to vote me honestly

[Alisae]

at least ur honest about it

[Alisae]

I honestly don't know how you can reach that conclusion

Like thats a conclusion that doesn't make sense to me at this given moment.

Yeah, I think it makes ABR a little townie for me, though.

its not
trust me

[Alisae]

its not
trust me

You already ML me in Mountainous

so?
how is that relevant to this game and honestly why did that ML on you even matter cuz I am pretty sure it didn't really matter at all

[Alisae]

Ahsoka ABR and Uncrowned all open-wolfing now

Flavor Leaf must've spiked the punch in the scum room.

Pooky village posting

[Alisae]

its not
trust me

You already ML me in Mountainous

so?
how is that relevant to this game and honestly why did that ML on you even matter cuz I am pretty sure it didn't really matter at all

Relevant because you can't read me for shit

How can you conclude that I can't read you off of a sample size of 1 game

[Alisae]

How can you conclude that I can't read you off of a sample size of 1 game

I don't remember you ever doing anything especially good as town. Your scumhunting is weak.

I don't remember you ever doing anything especially good as town. Not only is your scumhunting weak but also you force other people to follow you just making you a bad player.

[Alisae]

ABR is really good at making me town read him, though. I've done it twice when he was scum. This still feels different.

he's not town tho
trust me

[Alisae]

The best players in this game are FL clidd and MT. Change my mind.

I dunno if you've noticed but we're playing mafia not deciding who the scummy goes to.

he's not town dude just don't bother

[Alisae]

ABR is really good at making me town read him, though. I've done it twice when he was scum. This still feels different.

he's not town tho
trust me

No good player who has ever trusted you ever said "wow I'm sure glad I trusted alisae"

no one has said that
ever

people still think I'm garbage at town for some reason

[Alisae]

honestly ABR do you actually think I'm scum or just garbage town thats in your way because I suspect you

[Alisae]

I dunno I let Alisae run Pooky vs FL and we straight up stomped.

^^^^^

[Alisae]

And also in my past 5-6 town games I was spot on and correct about everything that happened in the game.

Last I checked ABR you were pushing a roaming detective in a normal for doing what exactly?

[Alisae]

ABR is really good at making me town read him, though. I've done it twice when he was scum. This still feels different.

he's not town tho
trust me

No good player who has ever trusted you ever said "wow I'm sure glad I trusted alisae"

no one has said that
ever

people still think I'm garbage at town for some reason

In my experience, while it's irksome, it leans in your favor if people underestimate you as town if you make it to late game. We're the type that's pretty untouchable as town late game, but early game people like to discredit us.

honestly I don't even give my early reads too much credence tbh. Its the worst part of the game for me.
please just trust me tho that abr is just not town :/

[Alisae]

Are you here to regale us with your greatest hits and tales of where I was wrong or are you here to play this game because I'm still town

oh so when you say I'm garbage at town and then I say evidence that proves the opposite you're posting this?

[Alisae]

My optimal town play here is to stay quiet and let the good times roll so don't attack me for doing what you want me to

sure you know what I'll shut up for a bit as well

[Alisae]

thank you

[Alisae]

christ

[Alisae]

I'll compromise on Uncrowned
VOTE: Uncrowned

[Alisae]

this game is like a bar fight between everyone in the playerlist
honestly everything is okay

[Alisae]

i love it

[Alisae]

Give me a % Alisae. ABRscum.

Is it coinflip odds?

coming back to the thread with a clearer mind, I'd say maybe like
scum 60 - 40 town

like it still seems scum but if that slot was scum I would expect it to tunnel me into the ground.
If Uncrowned flipped scum I would probably give it a pass since the wagon thats mutually forming here I think I'm okay with.

ig this is where I'm just dumping my reads
You're town and my closest ally and if thats not sayin somethin idunno what is.
MT is my 2nd strongest townread.
Hopkirk also seems fine
Pooky I think like is generally weird but I don't think his play so far comes from scum

I would probably like never vote the above ever.

Kanna and clid are townleans.
Kanna's posting from D1 feels townie but I want to see what happens next and clid i kinda just skimmed and wrote off as townie and maybe I'm just overlooking something here tbh. His interactions with Infinity seem fine I think?

ABR would go around here honestly. I definitely don't think he's aligned with Uncrowned.

Then it goes
Uncrowned
Mena

[Alisae]

MT do you think ABR is town?

[Alisae]

I’ll listen to morning if she wants to talk about how your meta is pointing to town you but frankly for how little you’ve done so far other than yell about being town I struggle to see how you’re outside your scummeta esp considering you normally take the line that your scumgame is basically godlike

i seriously doubt id vote Ali in the near future, will reevaluate later if necessary but i am heavily under the impression this isnt how scum!Ali would play and ive had no issues with eir play thus far

if this becomes more important though ill probably like read scumgame of eirs ig

well I posted plenty of games in the hood
at least like 3 scumgames I think
feel free to read them

[Alisae]

when I'm scum I powerwolf and I powerwolf hard

[Alisae]

Where is your head at in regards to the rest of the table kanna?

[Alisae]

Talk about what

[Alisae]

I’m starting to TR ABR more now :/

[Alisae]

Uncrowned see hood

[Alisae]

Ya and I caught him fairly easily

[Alisae]

I also played against him as town in student council and this game compared to student council is really different
I’ve never seen uncrowned play this badly before

[Alisae]

You should read teh hood to figure out which one

[Alisae]

"get him out before he gets his shit together"

or
And hear me out because this might be some wild 5head idea you’ve never heard before but hear me out
Pressure you see what happens and see how people respond and if I don’t like it then u can be scum

[Alisae]

Can u just read the neighborhood

[Alisae]

It can’t be that hard

[Alisae]

Great then you can understand why still voting you even tho I expressed interest elsewhere

[Alisae]

Why would I vote that person right now

[Alisae]

How is kanna supposed to conclude ur town

[Alisae]

Because ur not trying to be obvtown like at all and in student council, you were at least trying to

[Alisae]

VOTE: clidd

[Alisae]

I’m not buying you thinking scum!clidd joins your wagon right away. That would bring too much attention to him.
I was hoping he would do it more slowly but it seems like that isn’t going to happen and his reads and positioning seemed sus so...

[Alisae]

Meh if MT really wants kanna over clid fine
VOTE: kanna

[Alisae]

If this goes wrong I’m charging you for playing out of your meta and speed wagoning town

[Alisae]

Or you help me flip clidd
I’ll be happy either way

[Alisae]

Ya

Pedit: It comes from either alignment tbh.

[Alisae]

there’s 1 scum in {Kanna, Uncrowned, Clidd} so...

[Alisae]

Like its either clidd is town and wants more out of you
Or he’s scum and he would bring too much attention to himself if he voted you

[Alisae]

ABR vote kanna?

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:
you got a claim?

[Alisae]

honestly shoulda killed uncrowned d1

[Alisae]

he's starting to charm the queen KEKW

[Alisae]

honestly kanna the more you fall in love with uncrowned the more I want to go r/niceguys on you tbh

[Alisae]

what do you want next?

[Alisae]

VOTE: clidd

[Alisae]

honestly kanna the more you fall in love with uncrowned the more I want to go r/niceguys on you tbh

ali, i'll pocket you extra lots when we hydra! if that counts

p-edit: i might wanna reevalutate everything after this session so i dunno

uuuuuuuuuuu

[Alisae]

ig this is where I'm just dumping my reads
You're town and my closest ally and if thats not sayin somethin idunno what is.
MT is my 2nd strongest townread.
Hopkirk also seems fine
Pooky I think like is generally weird but I don't think his play so far comes from scum

I would probably like never vote the above ever.

Kanna and clid are townleans.
Kanna's posting from D1 feels townie but I want to see what happens next and clid i kinda just skimmed and wrote off as townie and maybe I'm just overlooking something here tbh. His interactions with Infinity seem fine I think?

ABR would go around here honestly. I definitely don't think he's aligned with Uncrowned.

Then it goes
Uncrowned
Mena

{FL, MT, Hopkirk, Pooky, ABR}
{Kanna, Uncrowned}
{Clidd, Mena}

[Alisae]

ABR goes up due to mindmeld on Kanna/Clidd in hood and also just starting to seem townie weirdly enough

[Alisae]

honestly starting to lose track of who is scum tbh

[Alisae]

oh btw weird question

is it normal for anyone who replaced into the game to go into a 5p hood and be like
"Yo 5P scumteam, nice! btw who are we killing?"

[Alisae]

because thats how mena entered the hood

[Alisae]

who is scum if its not you and mena cuz idunno who the fuck scum is if its not either of you

[Alisae]

Who is scum that I'm townreading

[Alisae]

Is it FL who seems pretty town and I have a reason to believe they're town but I don't want to out?
Or is it MT who is just super super obvtown and not scum at all
Or is it ABR who I am starting to mindmeld with and whose play that I can't justify happening as scum ever?
Or is it Pooky who hasn't posted anything that makes sense coming from scum?

Or is it hopkirk who is just in general pretty townie. Honestly maybe its this player if I'm like super wrong.

I'd honestly rather scumread Hopkirk, the guy who I don't know how extensive his scumrange is, over those 4 players tbh.

[Alisae]

I refuse on pride to vote that slot.

[Alisae]

I'll only do it if someone posts a convincing powerpoint presenation on pooky scum
and even then the powerpoint has to be CONVINCING

[Alisae]

like it just doesn't make sense to me.

[Alisae]

Is this game 12 players because there's only 2 scum and multiple lover pairs or some bullshit?
That would make sense to me.

[Alisae]

like honestly pooky scum just doesn't make sense to me tbh

MT see this is like you scumreading Toogeloo in Pooky v FL its like you're just scumreading him for not being charsimatically townie but nothing he actually does makes sense to come from scum

[Alisae]

was that even you who scumread Toogeloo
either way the fact people scumread that slot made no sense to me

[Alisae]

well regardless Pooky would have to do something really bad after the recent developments for me to consider voting him

[Alisae]

I mean I don't really see anyone who ever enters a neighborhoods and jokes about it being a scum pt and asks who we're killing so idunno

[Alisae]

also idunno who said nahdia's replacing out at the start of n1 is likely town indicative but i mean the player was generally inactive so anything is possible I don't see how its strictly a town rep out but maybe i just don't get it and I'm some stupid washed delusional player that never has correct reads and actually doesn't know anything about the game at all honestly like its honestly fine

[Alisae]

im probably voting clid or mena

[Alisae]

weird opening in hood and not townie play

[Alisae]

also i have too many townreads

[Alisae]

idunno man
if its not him who is it

[Alisae]

are we going to start wagoning hopkirk because everyone reacts townie to pressure or is just town

[Alisae]

ig we just wait for pooky to post

[Alisae]

Nah I get accused of powerwolfing or derailing the town when I push my reads. I'll let FL and alisae lead

appreciate it
we won't dissapoint

[Alisae]

hopkirk why do you think uncrowned is still scum also what makes you think he's paired with clidd?

[Alisae]

atm i mostly think that at max {kanna, clidd, and uncrowned} contains like 1 scum and clidd just seems like the scummiest out of the bunch

[Alisae]

pooky gib readlist

[Alisae]

plz

[Alisae]

Well, this is the third time I'm saying that you're townreading scum.

ur gonna have to do something better to convince me its pooky

[Alisae]

just saying im townreading scum isn't helpful and if ur town, flipping you is more helpful than just saying im townreading scum and then expect me to re-evaluate all of a sudden.

Like its very clear that I need help

[Alisae]

did you hood with anyone?

[Alisae]

No.

But I already started with a neighborhood with Ahsoka.

has ahsoka's hood content been good?

[Alisae]

Alisae - The only way this slot would make sense as scum is if its scum with Flavor Leaf and FL told Alisae that he was going to run the table and put on a fucking show and just to munch popcorn.

oh shit fuck he knows FL what do we do?

[Alisae]

clidd why didn't you act on n1?

[Alisae]

Albert B. Rampage - Null/Scum - I didn't like how ABR said MT was scum and then refused to give any example games to show how her tone was similar to her scum games, I'd think if that was a genuine thought in his head, he would've had to have been thinking about an actual game where she is similar and be able to provide such an example quite easily when asked for. Instead he responded with "no I'm too lazy for that" when it would've been much faster to just type out the name of the game. Laziness implies that he is too lazy to look through her games for an example, hence he is not actually thinking of a specific game but was just throwing that out there to keep POE larger. I also do not like the way he provides little to no reasoning for his votes.

ABR can you address this?

[Alisae]

:/

[Alisae]

clidd why didn't you act on n1?

I wanted you, Hopkirk or Menalque (that replaced in), but wasn't sure.

I needed another day.

I didn't target Ahsoka, Pooky. She was already with me in a hood by default.

uuuuuh

[Alisae]

how believable is that?
I'm not sure but what do other people think

[Alisae]

On one hand, we could just
let him prove he's a neighborizer and he can hood me
on the otherhand
his justification for not acting n1 is weird

[Alisae]

It is the truth.

And I would probably have more motivation to form a target someone as scum on N1, considering that my goal would be to influence other slots.

i mean the thing is
you don't have to use a neighborhood with someone you trust
you can also use it to aggressively try to sort a slot

[Alisae]

that may not exactly be your playstyle tho and you may feel like you would want to use it to secure a safe place to work with someone you trust.

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

ahsoka who should die today

[Alisae]

If clidd is scum Ahsoka is too

whats the logic behind this?

[Alisae]

Well if he flips scum and he lied about his role then you're confscum

oh okay
that makes sense

[Alisae]

Bullshit he has any games he can provide, he's just guessing im scum while being mysterious so if i actually flip scum he can rub it in everyone else's faces

Thats really alpha coming from ABR