One Night Stand [Game Over]

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #20 (isolation #0) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:45 pm

The Sky Muse

I walk outside into the frigid night,

The wind sends shivers into my bones,

My tears freeze in the air as they drop,

Ten thousand stars shining in the night sky,

I wait for my lover by the Frozen Lake.

Who knows where love goes when the Moon hides?

Where will I find my soulmate?

I beg you, please, be mine, be mine.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #42 (isolation #1) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 8:25 pm

In post 23, Kanna wrote:pooky, your poem touches my heart... i would love to be yours, if i could. i am very lonely these days. i can't promise much but my unconditional love and loyalty, and all i expect is it in return. what do you say?

yours sincerely,
kanna

There are no words that can adequately describe how you made me feel..

So many things I wish to say to you, my heart and soul.

May I have the honor of dancing with you?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #171 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:06 am

VOTE: Infinity

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #173 (isolation #3) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:07 am

In post 170, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 162, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 159, Morning Tweet wrote:everyone is looking so cute today
Anyone looking... especially cute?
no favourites!! yet

*flops ears*

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #184 (isolation #4) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:11 am

i dont think scum alisae could take thread control in this PL. the ego size in this thread is like 6x a normal large theme.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #191 (isolation #5) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:17 am

In post 187, Alisae wrote:
In post 184, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dont think scum alisae could take thread control in this PL. the ego size in this thread is like 6x a normal large theme.
If I was actually scum honestly I would hate my life in this playerlist honestly. That or I adapt.

what a lie

you love us :3

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #217 (isolation #6) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:52 am

In post 215, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 214, Morning Tweet wrote: looks you need to wait for a player w/ more content b4 u fake ur next townread infinity
Even if I know I'd do the same thing as town? Man, playing scum sucks.

lol

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #245 (isolation #7) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:15 am

Truth is like a diamond in the sky,

So many stars shining above,

My love, do you see me now?

I wait for you where the Sea kisses the Sky.

Hope blooming in my heart for us.

Soul and body you will have me all.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #248 (isolation #8) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:21 am

I'm pretty sure I have the biggest ego here.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #252 (isolation #9) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:34 am

In post 249, Ahsoka wrote:
In post 248, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm pretty sure I have the biggest ego here.
I disagree.

Your ego is by default smaller because you are on an alt.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #262 (isolation #10) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:45 am

In post 255, Ahsoka wrote:Some of my alts are undefeated.

I've never used an Alt in my life

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #279 (isolation #11) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:07 pm

his italics are going to be taken away.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #333 (isolation #12) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:22 am

what exactly are you doing to "figure infinity out" ?

I'm not seeing anything in the main thread so are you hard at work on this in a PT or something?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #338 (isolation #13) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:39 am

In post 334, Jesse Pierce wrote:I'm observing. My beloved has ignored me in the hood for most of this game so it is a rather boring hood full of me talking to myself.

so you observed infinity scum but you want us to slow down on his elim because ??

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #340 (isolation #14) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:43 am

why are you even bothering to think about jesse's alignment if infinity is getting run up today lol

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #344 (isolation #15) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:49 am

In post 341, Ahsoka wrote:Why shouldn't I give my thoughts on the slots in the game? I'm not focused on just one player.

cuz he's a lover whos going to flip when infinity flips right?

if infinity is S in your books then Jesse is green and there's no need to sort that slot.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #345 (isolation #16) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:50 am

In post 342, Hopkirk wrote:do you not scumread pooky? He seems weird.

chill homie

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #347 (isolation #17) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:53 am

we can townblock after i stop being paranoid about being killed night 1

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #350 (isolation #18) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:55 am

ok but even if it wasn't a true lover and it was just flavoured neighbors it makes like no sense for there to be an S-S hood anyway.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #351 (isolation #19) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:56 am

In post 348, Alisae wrote:
In post 347, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:we can townblock after i stop being paranoid about being killed night 1
what?

My loveliness is sometimes so bright that I take a bullet in the head and I would like to avoid that if possible. :3

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #358 (isolation #20) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:59 am

In post 354, Jesse Pierce wrote:I like this but I do agree that I'm not someone anyone needs to pay too much attention to because I am probably dying today. I just want to catch some scum before that.

hard disagree lol

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #360 (isolation #21) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:59 am

In post 357, Morning Tweet wrote:you tank ur towniness intentionally to avoid N1 deaths? n1 deaths are awesome

n1 deaths are tragic

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #361 (isolation #22) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:01 am

Ahsoka/Infinity scum probly

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #364 (isolation #23) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:03 am

Ahsoka sounds like they are bussing Infinity.

Also their "read" on Jesse is kind of a joke, pretty sure they knew Jesse was going to flip lover with Infinity so there's no point even coming up with a read.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #385 (isolation #24) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:21 am

In post 376, Ahsoka wrote:
In post 364, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Ahsoka sounds like they are bussing Infinity.

Also their "read" on Jesse is kind of a joke, pretty sure they knew Jesse was going to flip lover with Infinity so there's no point even coming up with a read.
this reeks of damage control so bad

lol just dont shoot me tonight buddy

lets fight tomm

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #439 (isolation #25) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:47 am

In post 432, Menalque wrote:I think morning is the towniest slot in the game

big true

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #440 (isolation #26) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:47 am

In post 434, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Go read some MT scum games actually. They usually just let her win as scum.

show me one

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #447 (isolation #27) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:52 am

In post 444, Albert B. Rampage wrote:No I am going to be a lazy POS and do nothing of the sort.

so you just made something up and thought nobody would call you out? lol

VOTE: ABR

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #456 (isolation #28) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:58 am

In post 451, Menalque wrote:Does anyone know what hopkirk’s range is like as scum

I have never seen Hopkirk play scum

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #477 (isolation #29) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:39 am

im liking the chemistry here

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #481 (isolation #30) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:44 am

I think Mena has a crush on you

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #488 (isolation #31) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:47 am

Σ>―( ˘⌣˘)(˘⌣˘ )♡→: Menalque & Alisae

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #491 (isolation #32) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:48 am

this is probly TvT

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #492 (isolation #33) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:49 am

my probability distribution for this interaction is like

95%: TvT
0.80%: TvS
4.20%: SvS

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #493 (isolation #34) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:51 am

My forecast for this interaction is that you will continue to attack Alisae for another 15 pages of game content until you finally realize Alisae is town and you will make up with em somewhere around page 35 standard deviation of 4.5 pages.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #497 (isolation #35) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:55 am

lol @ abr calling other people bad

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #502 (isolation #36) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:06 am

In post 498, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 497, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:lol @ abr calling other people bad
You joined this site before some players here were born and yet they play better than you.

the new generation of players is very promising and I am happy to play with them

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #503 (isolation #37) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:07 am

In post 500, Menalque wrote:This is me asking u two to tone it down pre-emptively

?

I haven't said anything toxic yet

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #507 (isolation #38) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:14 am

In post 501, Menalque wrote:
In post 499, Menalque wrote:Why do u think ali is town, pooky?
Also, while we’re on the topic, why am I town pooky?

the interactions feels TvT because you two are making a mountain out of a molehill.

I don't think Ali is inside her scum!meta unless Ali decided to break it just for this game for whatever reason so Ali could be bored and tide-surf.

Your aggression over nothing feels very much like a town!mena thing to do.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #508 (isolation #39) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:15 am

In post 506, Uncrowned wrote:VOTE: Pooky
sheep me guys

you're just jealous

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #513 (isolation #40) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:22 am

do you consent to BoP if I'm town?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #524 (isolation #41) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:35 am

Ahsoka ABR and Uncrowned all open-wolfing now

Flavor Leaf must've spiked the punch in the scum room.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #528 (isolation #42) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:36 am

i'm down to kill any of [ABR Ahsoka Uncrowned]

ABR reads exactly the same way as that time he was playing open-wolf in Betrayal.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #531 (isolation #43) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:37 am

In post 529, Ahsoka wrote:Pooky and Menalque are both players who have no clue how to town read me.

I don't think I've seen either of them ever town read me unless they were scum, or I was scum.

I've literally never town-read you as scum

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #538 (isolation #44) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:40 am

I mean I have never town read you when you were scum.

And board games you were a vig who shot scum so I wouldn't really call that a town read lol.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #540 (isolation #45) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:41 am

In post 539, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 533, Alisae wrote:How can you conclude that I can't read you off of a sample size of 1 game
I don't remember you ever doing anything especially good as town. Your scumhunting is weak.

lolololol

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #545 (isolation #46) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:42 am

In post 541, Ahsoka wrote:you've never played against scumMe when you had to read me. Only Pooky vs FL, but I was ScumStump.

I scumread you in the Maria Mini Theme - even had your exact role name :3

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #549 (isolation #47) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:43 am

In post 543, Albert B. Rampage wrote:The best players in this game are FL clidd and MT. Change my mind.

I dunno if you've noticed but we're playing mafia not deciding who the scummy goes to.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #557 (isolation #48) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:47 am

I dunno I let Alisae run Pooky vs FL and we straight up stomped.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #559 (isolation #49) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:48 am

the way I see it there's 2 possibilities:

ABR is a scum - we kill him - big win

ABR is a town aligned vigilante - we definitely need to kill this because he will be a 4th scumbag and scum will have 2 kills per day.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #568 (isolation #50) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:52 am

ABR doesnt need evidence

ABR just makes shit up and expects people to nod along like they're braindead

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #574 (isolation #51) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:59 am

In post 551, Ahsoka wrote:Pooky, please just pretend I'm a mason with you this game.

tbh even if we were masons together I still wouldn't trust you

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #579 (isolation #52) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:01 am

In post 576, Ahsoka wrote:So you just have Flavor Fever and aren't going to do anything about it ever?

I'd probly claim masons d1 and hope the mafia kill you

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #584 (isolation #53) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:04 am

In post 577, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I didn't visit anyone yesterday I don't have a gun and I'm not a killer stop saying trust you, no one should trust you alisae

this is such a pointless thing to say when nobody died last night

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #587 (isolation #54) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:06 am

ABR yelling at Flavor Leaf about Mafia being a team game

2021 is lit

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #847 (isolation #55) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:48 am

Kanna is town because she is beautiful, pure and true.

ABR just openwolfing lol.

@Tweet if you read the section of Betrayal Mafia where ABR openwolf pushes my slot it's like pretty flagrant and obvious.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #851 (isolation #56) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:53 am

In post 444, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 440, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 434, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Go read some MT scum games actually. They usually just let her win as scum.
show me one
No I am going to be a lazy POS and do nothing of the sort.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #854 (isolation #57) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:56 am

To take 434 as a good faith thought you had, you have some games in mind where you saw Tweetie!Scum behave similarly and win through this style of play

when challenged on it, you say refuse, which implies you were not actually thinking of any games.

It's similar to the brazen manner you pushed with noraa on my slot and refused to engage in any logical discussion whatsoever.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #857 (isolation #58) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:57 am

In post 849, Albert B. Rampage wrote:MT tone is the opposite of my tone, so if you townread her and scumread me, it's most likely based on communication style, tone, and agreeableness.

I tone-read MT as town because I've played multiple games with MT town where her tone is like this.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #860 (isolation #59) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:58 am

In post 856, Albert B. Rampage wrote:MT confirmed what I said though so you can take her word for it

MT didn't play betrayal mafia and I did so I kind of experienced your openwolf shitpush first hand and she didn't.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #861 (isolation #60) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:58 am

In post 859, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Have you played with MT as scum though because I have

yup

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #864 (isolation #61) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:04 am

what's this read based on?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #865 (isolation #62) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:08 am

you can just write a one line main idea if you're having trouble coming up with a full fledged case.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #866 (isolation #63) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:19 am

In post 852, Ahsoka wrote:oh, pooky.

Idk with Pooky. They always push me as scum, and while I think their play has been weird if scum, and I town read it, I don't think they're not capable of posting like that as scum.

wtf are you even talking about.

we've played 2 games together. 1 of which I was scum. I did not "push you".

it's like you're in delusional lala land here.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #870 (isolation #64) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:26 am

I'm at Uncrowned ABR Clidd

The probability of Kanna scum = 0

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #874 (isolation #65) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:30 am

specifically my read on Kanna is from this game:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=85019

My Kanna is beautiful - pure and true. I would be beyond devastated if she were scum, and in affairs of the heart I am almost never wrong.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #878 (isolation #66) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:34 am

I asked him for his case and reasoning and he's provided none so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to fight him about.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #879 (isolation #67) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:35 am

In post 876, Hopkirk wrote:how confident are you on that and how good are you at meta pooky?

She's like Hectic Level Soul Mason mixed with Isis level Love.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #881 (isolation #68) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:38 am

In post 880, Hopkirk wrote:tbh it doesn't sound like you're even trying tbh. Just start slinging passive aggressive angry comments at him or something. Is that so difficult?

I've already been shitpushed before by him in Betrayal so I know it doesn't get any better

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #885 (isolation #69) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:42 am

he's literally sheeping clidd on voting me so um not sure what you're talking about?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #888 (isolation #70) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:45 am

ok sure I'll just ignore ABR for the rest of the game

unvote

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #890 (isolation #71) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:46 am

VOTE: clidd

die die die etc

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #894 (isolation #72) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:48 am

In post 891, clidd wrote:You still scum, Pooky.

yea sure whatever dude

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #897 (isolation #73) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:49 am

In post 892, Hopkirk wrote:are you doing this because you think they flip scum then we all apologise for doubting you on ABR and go for him too? because, full disclosure here, i'm only in for stage one

I could be wrong on ABR, if you guys think you have more experience with him then I'll just take your word for it and do my "lol i told you so" thing in the postgame if you're wrong.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #900 (isolation #74) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:54 am

i have a 0 % chance of flipping scum

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #902 (isolation #75) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:55 am

Clidd:

uncrowned : need to sort him better
pooky : this one's scum

lol ok

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #913 (isolation #76) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:15 am

off the top of my head:

Albert B. Rampage - Null/Scum - I didn't like how ABR said MT was scum and then refused to give any example games to show how her tone was similar to her scum games, I'd think if that was a genuine thought in his head, he would've had to have been thinking about an actual game where she is similar and be able to provide such an example quite easily when asked for. Instead he responded with "no I'm too lazy for that" when it would've been much faster to just type out the name of the game. Laziness implies that he is too lazy to look through her games for an example, hence he is not actually thinking of a specific game but was just throwing that out there to keep POE larger. I also do not like the way he provides little to no reasoning for his votes.

Morning Tweet - I think she's in her town meta, her thoughts flow a lot more easily, she also has a town-tell that Hectic explained to me a while ago, she knows of this town-tell so I'm not sure how reliable it is or whether she can replicate it in her scum games. Tonally she feels very town. The latest tack she's taken to attack me feels like something I don't think scum!tweet does because it's easier for her to pocket me I guess?

Kanna - I'm not sure words will do justice to how strong my town-read is here. This world is crazy and mean and we're all looking for some kind of connection to fill what has been missing. I don't always soul-read people but when I do I am almost never wrong.

Menalque - His opening feels like town!him - conviction is there, emotions read true. if his posting falls off I will re-evaluate.

Alisae - The only way this slot would make sense as scum is if its scum with Flavor Leaf and FL told Alisae that he was going to run the table and put on a fucking show and just to munch popcorn. Indignation with Mena reads as true-ish?

Ahsoka - I will need to spend more time on this.

Hopkirk - Feels townie, hilarious posts. I'd be fine losing to Hop-scum because at least it will be entertaining.

Uncrowned - Trying to steal my beloved Kanna from me, bad intentions? Feels like he's going the polar opposite of his play in Dark Waltz II where he was scum and I modded/Kanna played.

clidd - Never played with him, not sure why he's voting me / putting me at the bottom of his readslist, I skimmed his posts and didn't even find anything worth addressing.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #921 (isolation #77) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:18 am

In post 917, Alisae wrote:
In post 913, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Alisae - The only way this slot would make sense as scum is if its scum with Flavor Leaf and FL told Alisae that he was going to run the table and put on a fucking show and just to munch popcorn.
oh shit fuck he knows FL what do we do?

if you got a gun

do what you gotta do

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #925 (isolation #78) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:20 am

when did you neighborize Ahsoka and why?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #940 (isolation #79) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:33 am

even if this was his role it's not alignment indicative.

unvote

waiting to hear from Ahsoka about clidd.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #947 (isolation #80) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:20 am

In post 942, clidd wrote:This is good, but why you don't have an impression me?

because I've never played with you before.

which I said

in that thing you are quoting.

I don't know why you think I'm scum. You are free to tell me about it.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1088 (isolation #81) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:59 pm

In post 1047, Kanna wrote:cool!
pooky! let's form a soulbond!
*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧

You don't know how happy this made me and how much I needed it.

The reason I know Kanna is town is because every time I see her post I feel a little happier inside and it makes a tear drop form in my right eye.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1102 (isolation #82) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:37 am

In post 913, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Uncrowned - Trying to steal my beloved Kanna from me, bad intentions? Feels like he's going the polar opposite of his play in Dark Waltz II where he was scum and I modded/Kanna played.

In post 975, Uncrowned wrote:pooky is scum

look at the read on me

"bad intentions"

"play polar opposite from the game i modded where he was scum"

no explanation. just words.

What do you think that line means?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1119 (isolation #83) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:29 am

are you just pushing my townreads to try to get me to attack you or something?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1123 (isolation #84) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:33 am

what

why would I feel guilty about pocketing Kanna

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1128 (isolation #85) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:35 am

ali gets it

:3

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1130 (isolation #86) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:38 am

I think that's just a really cute way of saying she thinks I am definitely town.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1143 (isolation #87) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:43 am

she is aligned with me

we share one soul

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1152 (isolation #88) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:47 am

only the sith deal in absolutes

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1155 (isolation #89) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:48 am

whatcha townreading uncrowned for?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1219 (isolation #90) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:59 pm

In post 1168, Ahsoka wrote:why was there no kill?

tbh I thought you were the reason there was no death lol

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1221 (isolation #91) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:00 pm

In post 1177, Alisae wrote:i won't vote it until you change ur avatar back to something better and not as offputting

same

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1222 (isolation #92) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:01 pm

In post 1184, Hopkirk wrote:do you not understand the concept of intense sarcasm?

we are not allowed to use sarcasm in mafia games hopkirk!!!!

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1225 (isolation #93) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:07 pm

i read it as very sarcastic

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1230 (isolation #94) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:20 pm

In post 1227, Alisae wrote:like fuck maybe it is just kanna
idunno :/

Alisae read my lips

there is 0 chance Kanna is scum

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1233 (isolation #95) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:32 pm

I'm still here:

Kanna

Alisae - Hopkirk - Tweetie
-----------------------------
Mena - Clidd
-----------------------------
ABR - Uncrowned - Ahsoka

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1236 (isolation #96) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:40 pm

I want Ahsoka and Uncrowned to reply to my last posts towards them first

we have time to sort and time for mena to come back

no rush

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1238 (isolation #97) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:45 pm

In post 1231, Hopkirk wrote:whether you're town or scum, that's why Kanna is a hard TR for me

exactly

either we're in Pooky!Scum is using nefarious Soul-Pocketing Techniques on Kanna!Town

or

Pooky!Town is right about Kanna!Town.

Either way Kanna is town and there is no reason to consider her as scum.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1239 (isolation #98) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:46 pm

In post 1237, Alisae wrote:btw side note, can anyone explain to me why people are picking hard to play champions that they have a 0% winrate on and consistently run it down with in ranked?
Like I'm trying to do placements since its start of teh season and I'm 5-1 and these players keep picking champions they have a negative winrate w/ and/or consistently run it down with.

I have a 30min dodge timer because I refuse to play with these players.

you could play TFT with me instead :3

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1242 (isolation #99) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:51 pm

league is so much more stressful than tft tho :>

PookyTheMagicalBear · Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:27 pm

In post 1244, Alisae wrote:I had a support karma that decided they were going to just try to steal my jungle camps and do nothing else.
They even flashed to try to steal red from me

what a villain

what movie are you watching tweetie?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:20 am

In post 1252, Uncrowned wrote:no clue

it literally has no explanation

you could legitimately say "play was polar opposite from last game must mean he's town" and it would have just as little meaning

its a surface level reason that's meant to justify and count as a trajectory for your read on me

it is either fake or just bad

there's not even a read in there.

it's literally just what I am thinking about.

your reaction to it however does feel a bit guilty.

because you read "bad intentions?" as bad intentions. which implies a guilty mindset towards your approach towards Kanna.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:23 am

and it feels weird to me you are preemptively attacking me as scum, it's like you are worried I am in your head and that I can see you.

"it feels fake or just bad"

Are you saying these are not thoughts I am thinking about when I think about your slot? If they are fake thoughts, how would I type them out? Can you point out why they would be fake?

If they are "just bad" why are they just bad?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:25 am

In post 1271, Ahsoka wrote:
In post 1219, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1168, Ahsoka wrote:why was there no kill?
tbh I thought you were the reason there was no death lol
no you didn't.

If you did, you wouldn't be scum reading me.

VOTE: Pooky

what is this even about?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:26 am

oh I see now.

when I say "I thought you were the reason there is no death" I don't mean you prevented the death.

I mean you no-killed to fool me because I did that to fool you the last time we played together.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:28 am

it makes sense on even numbers and can bait out a TPR with a bad read.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:29 am

if there are no TPRs that prevent night kills it can also create false innocents that can endgame - you kinda know this p well since I did it to you last time we fought so I'd think you'd think it'd be poetic in a way to get me back with the same move.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:30 am

In post 1399, Ahsoka wrote:I have to end games quick as scum, because town me has no reason to not solve games in the end game. It's why I don't bus very often.

I usually start to become painfully obvious town as the game progresses, so scum have to fight that, and as scum, I have to try to recreate it. That's easy in early game, but I'm an early game scum player/late game town player.

what does ending quickly have to do with no-killing?

it's not like town gets one more day after a no-kill on evens.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:31 am

I mean you say you would never make it but I can't exactly just take your word for "i would never do this as scum"

I felt it was scummy for you to bring it up because it seemed baity in a way. It's almost like a villain who is annoyed that nobody is speculating about his crime.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:36 am

In post 1405, Ahsoka wrote:Yes, but it's harder to control gamestate, which is like my entire thing as scum.

I have way too many threats this game to No Kill.

um 1 more person is not harder to control game state. it's actually easier to control game state as scum on evens.

assuming 3 scum - 7 town

you need 6/7 town to vote you off

if you nightkill and its 3 scum - 6 town, you only need 5/6 town to vote you off.

esp if you have your team planning to not bus.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:38 am

This isn't even about town-reading you

it's about how scum control game state...

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:40 am

In post 1331, Ahsoka wrote:It's fine. I have a way to IC myself this game, so if I don't become conf town, the game can fade me Day 4.

It's fine. I have a way to IC myself this game, so if I don't become conf town, the game can fade me Day 4.

lol what is this?

Day 3 is MyLo if we miss here, there is no Day 4.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:41 am

In post 1337, Ahsoka wrote:Then I'm done with this conversation.

I target a player at night, and if I hit a specific player, I become Lovers with them, and I gain the Innocent Child ability.

Uncrowned is not my lover.

lol does your target know of you?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:43 am

In post 1415, Ahsoka wrote:Did you make a no kill as scum here and are just mad at me for thinking it wasn't a good play?

I'm town dude.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:44 am

I'm reading and reacting to your posts as I read them.

Your role also doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Innocent Child Lover seems like more -town EV than +town ev.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:56 am

Loyal Vigilantes are +EV, its like a Cop/LHF clearer rolled up in one.

Your role is kind of insane.

Let's take a worst case scenario.

Town mis-elims, scum shoot the lovers, you become a lover -> 9 alive 3 scum?
Town mis-elims, scum shoots you or your lover -> 6 alive 3 scum? game over?

Like I'm not sure how that makes sense as a setup where the town only has 2 mis-elims.

Unless there's like only 2 scum, the scum don't have a nightkill, or like your target is scum.

1) there r only 2 scum - um I'm not sure I've seen a mini size game with only 2 scum, maybe 2 scum + a traitor? some1 else can help me if these actually happen.
2) scum don't have a nightkill - I don't think this is true.
3) your target is scum - ok but why? if your target is scum and you loverize them and become an IC, we're in a p shit spot, scum can just never shoot you and the scum you are loverized to is suddenly very bleh for us to push because it's got an IC loverized to it.

Someone tell me if Ahsoka's role makes any sense. I kinda feel like it doesn't but I'm happy to be shown I'm wrong.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:57 am

In post 1428, Ahsoka wrote:I kinda feel like I'm being hyena'd by you two right now.

I'm a bear dude.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:01 am

ok but what's the point of your role if the optimal play for you is to not target?

in fact I don't even see why you would ever target in the first place. it's not like you linking with someone makes that person town.. and it's only bad if you link with a town or a mafia because um you die!?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:02 am

why did you even target uncrowned in the first place?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:03 am

walk me through your thought process there.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:05 am

which post indicated signalling to you?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:07 am

so you think they are an informed townie that knows you are town?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:08 am

I'm sorry I didn't state the tense correctly in that question:

You believe on Day 1 that Uncrowned was an informed townie that was informed you were town and hence he was your lover-target that could make you an IC?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:11 am

I don't particularly care what Uncrowned thinks.

I'm interested in what you thought because you are here to answer.

Your statement right now is :

"I targeted Uncrowned with my Loverizer IC ability because I thought he was an informed townie who knew that I was town."

Is this accurate?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:15 am

ok.

now I'm pretty sure you are like a good mechanical player.

Why does it make any sense to target a informed townie who knows of your innocence with a loverizer ability? If he's town, you are just decreasing town EV and giving the scum an extra cycle since we went into night on evens.

If he's actually informed of your innocence - then it makes no sense to target him since the benefit of a successful link (you becoming IC) is um, kind of pointless? He's already informed of your innocence, wouldn't it be easier to just ask him to claim ?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:17 am

Like you understand I have a lot of respect for you as a player right? You are mechanically very strong and I think you understand how to think through each role.

The reason I am really doubting you here is because I think you made this up and didn't think it through. If this is your actual role I expect you to be weighing the benefits of actually linking and deciding mechanically it would be quite stupid to actually link because like there is almost nothing to gain and a lot of downside.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:21 am

In the scenario where Uncrowned is an Informed Townie that knows of your innocence.

The best thing for the town is for him to claim that and you to not link with him.

It is by far better than you getting linked and becoming an IC.

So that's why I don't understand why you would target him with your ability at night instead of just straight up asking him : "dude are you informed that I am town?"

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:22 am

In post 1451, Ahsoka wrote:I disagree. I said he was informed I was town, that doesn't necessarily make him town. Scum him could have been informed I was an IC.

but um you are not an IC.

and scum are by default informed who the townsfolk are lol.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:28 am

I've stated my reasoning for:

A) I don't believe your role makes sense in this setup.
B) I don't believe you would play your role this way if you had this role.

I'm not sure what you think I am mis-repping?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:47 am

In post 1461, Ahsoka wrote:you were acting like I was calling Uncrowned town because I said he was informed I was town. Scum him is informed.

Well, you're wrong. I don't know what to say. You're wrong. Just because you don't believe it, doesn't mean it's not happening, but go ahead and misfade me again.

No that's not what I am saying about Uncrowned.

I'm saying that your thought process for targeting Uncrowned does not make a lot of sense to me.. that has nothing to do with whether Uncrowned is a townie or is a scum.

Specifically this exchange:

1433 why did you even target uncrowned in the first place?
1435 I thought they might be aware of me, and was possibly signaling me.
1436 which post indicated signalling to you?
1437 they've had me at lock town all game. I felt like maybe they were informed that I was town.

The reason I ask this series of questions is because I am looking for if you actually had this role in the beginning of the game and it's not just something you made up just now. The way I am trying to verify is to see if you were looking for breadcrumbs or signalling from your Night 1 target.

I am disappointed with your responses because instead of producing a post which sends a clear signal or is something that would make sense, you hypothesize that his role is one that is informed of both your identity and your role - this is something that does not make sense to me for two reasons:

1) It is pointless for an IC-loverizer to link with an Informed Townie - you increase the negative EV for the town while not gaining anything really since the player was already informed to be a protown player.

2) It's not clear to me you were actually looking for a lover crumb to begin with since you did not produce one that makes sense from Uncrowned.

the reason (2) is especially an issue for me is because I made this post as my first post:

Spoiler: Pooky First Post

Now I don't know how you could possibly have your role, read that post, and not target me at night if you actually wanted to link.

Like if I had your role, I would be actively looking for lover crumbs and my first post isn't so much as a crumb as a giant shining spotlight.

So for you to like read that, and not think hey Pooky is the target, just doesn't make sense to me. Hence I don't think you actually have your role.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:33 am

In post 1511, Kanna wrote:
In post 1123, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:what

why would I feel guilty about pocketing Kanna

feel pockited pls

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:44 am

In post 1517, Kanna wrote:also i have decided to let uncrowned into my heart. i truthfully wasn't ready before, but i think i see the light now. uncrowned, you were probably just having fun with your posting, right?

let's make up >_<

I trust you if you are sure. welcome to our Townblock Uncrowned :3

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:49 am

In post 1516, Kanna wrote:oh pooky, i think i'd be happy to die in your pocket. "we share a soul"? "hectic level soul mason plus isis level love"

x_x dead

p-edit: i am thinking that way too, but i'll finish reading first. am thinking {ahsoka, hopkirk} right now

oh pooky, i think i'd be happy to die in your pocket. "we share a soul"? "hectic level soul mason plus isis level love"x_x deadp-edit: i am thinking that way too, but i'll finish reading first. am thinking {ahsoka, hopkirk} right now

Did I ever tell you this? I might not have but I think you should know this.

During Menagerie you started out thinking Isis was scum but then there was this sequence of posts where you two found each other and it culminated in the post that now sits in your signature.

That exchange was something so beautiful it made me cry every time I read it, and I read it more than once. I knew then that I had little to no shot of winning vs Isis in that gladiate but was glad in my heart for witnessing something so beautiful.

She called it borderline cheating when I talked to her about it later, but I don't think creating beauty in this world can be cheating.

What you call guilt - I do not think of as that - I think it is more of the act of pure love, something that is so wonderfully beautiful it must come from one whose heart is pure and wonderful.

What is a soul read? It's when you see something so beautiful it makes tears form in your eyes and your heart knows that it has found something beautiful. That is very rare, I'm so glad you are here with me.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:05 am

well scum!me loves to white knight people to pocket.

but this is town me <3

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:24 am

well the way I see it, if we mis-eliminate today, we are in MyLo tomorrow if its 3 scum 5 town.

I'm not sure what information eliminating someone who is an afk lurker would give us.

It's basically flipping a coin.

Whereas Ashoka actually has reasons imo that solidly point to him being scum.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:25 am

In post 1547, Alisae wrote:Also his entrance into the hood is super sus literally no one ever enters a hood PT with "Oh hey 5 man scum PT wow very cool btw who are we killing?"
hello?

there were 10 people alive at night-start.

you really think he thought there was a 5 person scum team with 10 people alive?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:27 am

I'm not saying you are bad Ali.

I'm just saying that the evidence for Ashoka being scum is a lot stronger than the evidence for Mena being scum.

Mena isn't even here to defend himself.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:34 am

i still wanna kill ahsoka

no rush we have time

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:57 am

?

I have my stated reasons why I believe you are scum. it has nothing to do with "policy"

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:58 am

In post 1429, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Loyal Vigilantes are +EV, its like a Cop/LHF clearer rolled up in one.

Your role is kind of insane.

Let's take a worst case scenario.

Town mis-elims, scum shoot the lovers, you become a lover -> 9 alive 3 scum?
Town mis-elims, scum shoots you or your lover -> 6 alive 3 scum? game over?

Like I'm not sure how that makes sense as a setup where the town only has 2 mis-elims.

Unless there's like only 2 scum, the scum don't have a nightkill, or like your target is scum.

1) there r only 2 scum - um I'm not sure I've seen a mini size game with only 2 scum, maybe 2 scum + a traitor? some1 else can help me if these actually happen.
2) scum don't have a nightkill - I don't think this is true.
3) your target is scum - ok but why? if your target is scum and you loverize them and become an IC, we're in a p shit spot, scum can just never shoot you and the scum you are loverized to is suddenly very bleh for us to push because it's got an IC loverized to it.

Someone tell me if Ahsoka's role makes any sense. I kinda feel like it doesn't but I'm happy to be shown I'm wrong.

this is my reasoning for why your claimed role does not make sense in this setup

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:59 am

In post 1468, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1461, Ahsoka wrote:you were acting like I was calling Uncrowned town because I said he was informed I was town. Scum him is informed.

Well, you're wrong. I don't know what to say. You're wrong. Just because you don't believe it, doesn't mean it's not happening, but go ahead and misfade me again.
No that's not what I am saying about Uncrowned.

I'm saying that your thought process for targeting Uncrowned does not make a lot of sense to me.. that has nothing to do with whether Uncrowned is a townie or is a scum.

Specifically this exchange:

1433 why did you even target uncrowned in the first place?
1435 I thought they might be aware of me, and was possibly signaling me.
1436 which post indicated signalling to you?
1437 they've had me at lock town all game. I felt like maybe they were informed that I was town.

The reason I ask this series of questions is because I am looking for if you actually had this role in the beginning of the game and it's not just something you made up just now. The way I am trying to verify is to see if you were looking for breadcrumbs or signalling from your Night 1 target.

I am disappointed with your responses because instead of producing a post which sends a clear signal or is something that would make sense, you hypothesize that his role is one that is informed of both your identity and your role - this is something that does not make sense to me for two reasons:

1) It is pointless for an IC-loverizer to link with an Informed Townie - you increase the negative EV for the town while not gaining anything really since the player was already informed to be a protown player.

2) It's not clear to me you were actually looking for a lover crumb to begin with since you did not produce one that makes sense from Uncrowned.

the reason (2) is especially an issue for me is because I made this post as my first post:

Spoiler: Pooky First Post
In post 20, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
The Sky Muse

I walk outside into the frigid night,

The wind sends shivers into my bones,

My tears freeze in the air as they drop,

Ten thousand stars shining in the night sky,

I wait for my lover by the Frozen Lake.

Who knows where love goes when the Moon hides?

Where will I find my soulmate?

I beg you, please, be mine, be mine.

Now I don't know how you could possibly have your role, read that post, and not target me at night if you actually wanted to link.

Like if I had your role, I would be actively looking for lover crumbs and my first post isn't so much as a crumb as a giant shining spotlight.

So for you to like read that, and not think hey Pooky is the target, just doesn't make sense to me. Hence I don't think you actually have your role.

This is my reasoning for why your play does not make sense if your role is what you claim it is.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:00 am

if someone wants to claim they are the person you are "looking for" I will re-consider part 1.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:08 am

i have seen flavor leaf get very fustrated as scum and straight up concede so the fustration is nai for me. the main thing I am looking at for his alignment is the claim and the way he played it - both of which point for me towards flavor leaf lying

if anyone wants to claim they are his lost lover that he is searching for, i will reconsider. but otherwise this is a scum for me.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:11 am

i am not really looking at associatives.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:39 pm

In post 1337, Ahsoka wrote:
In post 1335, clidd wrote:Your reasoning for scum!clidd is meh.

I'm voting you rn because I think you're scum, period.
Then I'm done with this conversation.

I target a player at night, and if I hit a specific player, I become Lovers with them, and I gain the Innocent Child ability.

Uncrowned is not my lover.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:40 pm

this makes 0 sense by mechanics and by his play in this game.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:25 pm

The role doesn't make sense because either his target is:

(A) Town

or

(B) Scum.

If his target is (A)Town, it is --Town EV to link up because you are basically giving an extra nightkill to the scum team.

If his target is (B)Scum, why would the scum ever signal to him? How would he ever find his lover?

If I were to receive such a role, I'd just openly claim it and get my target to claim as well and then just

never

target them and function as a pair of near pseudo-masons.

It makes very little sense to shoot in the dark and try to hit a target.

However his claim of who he targeted doesn't make sense either since Uncrowned doesn't make sense as crumbing to him.

He also missed my first post of the game in which I literally say I am waiting for my Lover to find me.

Now how in the world do you read that with the role Flavor Leaf has claimed and not think "hey this is my target?"

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:26 pm

Also if nobody steps forward and claims to be the person that Flavor Leaf is looking for, then Flavor Leaf is just a definitely lying.

Can we agree on that at least?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:09 pm

it's one day before MyLo

if you are his target, you claim.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:16 am

I want to vote NsG but I’m not ready for today to be over and Mena isn’t back yet and I have not gotten the chance to play with NsG yet.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:16 am

In post 1805, Hopkirk wrote:do we think scum can even kill in this setup?

Pretty sure they can

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:25 am

Isn’t 4-8 nightless balanced? I thought with 3 scum there should be a night kill.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:20 am

with a serial killer thrown in too

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:41 am

my first game on the site:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=228

easiest game of my life.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:44 am

we've come a long way

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:51 pm

In post 1922, Uncrowned wrote:
In post 1102, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:What do you think that line means?
this was said ages ago in response to me calling out that fake meta read "his play is polar opposite from the game i helped mod" and nothing has been said since about it

this was just a straight up asspull with no backing

elim this

I don't even understand what you're trying to say.

can you try to like spell it out?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:53 pm

In post 1926, Uncrowned wrote:this is also 100% cap

your read list where you talked about these bad intentions had almost everyone regarded as town or nullish outside of myself and ABR

so obviously there was a read there, you were just backtracking because i called out your poor shade

unless you're trying to tell me ABR was your only scumread at that point?

do I look like the person who plays coy with scumreads lol

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:57 pm

In post 1933, Uncrowned wrote:In your read list, you had everyone as either town or null, except for ABR and I.

When you got to my slot, you made two comments: "Bad Intentions toward Kanna" and "Polar opposite play from game I modded"

As everyone else is town or null, and with the comment of bad intentions, the conclusion would be that you think I'm at least a higher chance of scum than anyone that isn't ABR.

I call out this bad reasoning.

"Bad intentions?" =/= Bad intentions towards Kanna

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:58 pm

i literally said it was off the top of my head what I thought of your slot, it's not like I went back and re-read your ISO dude.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:00 pm

In post 1934, Uncrowned wrote:
In post 1930, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:do I look like the person who plays coy with scumreads lol
no idea the games i've had with you prior to this we've both been memeing

if I scumread someone I will attack them until either they change my mind or they die.

if I don't attack you, it's probly because I don't scumread you.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:03 pm

im not voting NSg right now

i kinda wanted to get a chance to meme some more

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:06 pm

VOTE: NSG

ok fine I just wanted to flirt with Kanna some more

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:08 pm

I will come kill you tonight dude don't worry

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:10 pm

Uncrowned can't aim

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:11 pm

In post 1964, Uncrowned wrote:pooky/hopkirk/clidd/abr has at the very least 2 scum

never forget that pooky refused to be on this wagon the whole day while sussing it and only when that was called to attention did they actually decide to hammer

I didn't refuse to be on the wagon lol.

I just didn't want the day to be over.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:13 pm

Also I kinda wanted to give everyone a chance to claim to be Flavor Leaf's Claimed Role's "Target"

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:26 pm

its v unlikely mena is scum and wanted to PL the most important scum role lol.

I'm assuming the scum know that FL is the recruiter because if they don't even have that piece of information I'm not sure this can be characterized as mafia game.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:32 pm

ABR and Hopkirk look worse tho.

They were actively trying to save Flava Flav.

Mena can barely be characterized as playing.

btw any1 find any crumbs of people trying to signal Flavor Leaf to recruit them?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:35 pm

if we're assuming 2 scum left it might be better to just kill townies

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:36 pm

cuz scum dont get a nightkill to shoot in [Kanna-Me-Clidd] if they don't die and go down to 1 player if I'm reading FL's role correctly.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:37 pm

We don't really want to hit scum too early and let the last scum start nightkilling imo.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:38 pm

well Flavor Leaf's role says the scum team gains a factional NK when they are reduced to 1 in number so I'm pretty sure it will be the same for the other scum roles too?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:46 pm

the revealed scum PM shows that they gain a factional nightkill when they are reduced to 1 player - so its highly probable that's true on all of their role pms.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:49 pm

In post 1973, Ydrasse wrote:• You will gain a factional kill if you are the sole remaining mafia.

This line is probably in every mafia role pm.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:49 pm

I mean you can argue about whether it's right to do that but like it's pretty obvious from the revealed role and the lack of nightkills that this probably is the case here.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:51 pm

I didn't say the other 2 roles can't nightkill

I said if any mafia members becomes the sole remaining mafia members, they will get to nightkill.

That just makes sense from a design perspective.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:53 pm

I kinda like this setup

the flavor is dope and romance is like my favorite theme and I will probably sign up for Ydra games in the future because this is like awesome.

Also I love being not nightkilled :>

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:54 pm

I don't get why you are so upset upon finding out the bad guys don't have a gun

I'm kinda happy they don't have a gun lol

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:55 pm

In post 2020, Alisae wrote:
In post 2015, Morning Tweet wrote:i dont really see what's stopping Ydrasse/Hectic from designing a secret nightless though especially when it goes so well with the finding lost lover sort of theme
REPUTATION?????????????????

the last time I was scum in a hectic game, my role pm said I had a factional nightkill.

that was btw a lie because the game had no nights hahahahahah

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:56 pm

In post 2025, Morning Tweet wrote:If scum didn't know that FL was their partner then that puts Mena easily back on table sure

I highly doubt the scum did not know FL was the recruiter because then there is no "informed minority" which is a basic requirement for a mafia game to begin with.

I think of FL as almost a kind of reverse-traitor in mechanism where the main scum team knows about him and is trying to signal him to recruit them.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:00 pm

whats a weak loverizer?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:04 pm

In post 2028, Hopkirk wrote:One shot weak loveriser

can you explain what this role is pls?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:09 pm

there's no way that's a real role

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:09 pm

hopkirk is scum

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:11 pm

does it confirm you to the person you target as town?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:14 pm

so if you loverize Alisae and Alisae is town, you will become lovers with Alisae

Alisae will be informed you are now Alisae's lover

Alisae will not know if you are scum or town

You will know Alisae is town?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:15 pm

In post 2050, Hopkirk wrote:Also I wouldn't call it 'bussing' when scum assumedly don't know each other. At that point voting scum is less towncred than modelled.

I'm pretty sure FL's partners know who FL is because if they didn't it wouldn't be an "informed minority vs uninformed majority game"

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:18 pm

well you did try to save Flavor Leaf and there are crumbs from you to him and I'm not sure if your role makes sense in the setup.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:22 pm

oh scum need to coordinate to nightkill?

that makes a lot of sense for a setup

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:23 pm

no wonder why you are raging so hard in here lol

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:23 pm

I am sad I will not get to flirt with Kanna some more if the game truly is over

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:25 pm

we can't actually take alisae's scum-claim at face value here btw because its optimal for scum to reduce down to 1 member to unlock their nightkill and begin killing the conf-town side.

Alisae is definitely scum but Mena isn't yet.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:26 pm

if mena comes in and says he's scum then obv this game is over tho :3

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:27 pm

i just want to flirt with Kanna :3

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:29 pm

she's' probably a mafia who knows FL is the recruiter and she's a killer who needs to submit the same target at night as Mena in order to do a nightkill?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:31 pm

probably because then Ali wouldn't have to coordinate with Mena and could kill whoever Ali wanted to kill.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:34 pm

he targetted Uncrowned because Uncrowned opened with:

In post 266, Uncrowned wrote:oh shit it's FL what up my g

lol

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:35 pm

its actually wild how many people were signalling to Flava Flav

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:41 pm

yea it is kind of wild he would PL the um, most important member of your team :3

PookyTheMagicalBear · Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:49 pm

Flava Flav's claim though was pretty wild :3