DBZ: Cell Games [Over]

[Titus]

So it sounds like we have voting phase where we select the two scummiest players and then they duke it out in the arena and with the power of friendship one wins while the other loses?

That's an option. The other thing that I was thinking about was putting in a universal townie vs the scummiest player (since I think the mechanic is a bit scumside) but with this playerlist I think playing true to the intent of the mechanic is the most fun.

I don't like putting a universal townie in with a scummy player. It sets up a situation where a scummy looking townie claims a role we really need and we're up shit's creek without a paddle.

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No, I'm starting to realize my actual super townie posts only come after a scum flip or two for info and then the words get flowin'

I was digging the your entrance until I got to this post. I don't have the impression from any game of yours that I've read or heard about or spectated or whatever that you had trouble projecting town before a couple scumflips. Is that a recent development?

I just think it becomes easier. See my recently completed Guns and Roses game.
I became less of a target and became strongest non-confirmed TR only after we had 2 scum flips and I could start actually doing association analysis.
Maybe I should say it's simply easier, less work, less open for interpretation etc.

After the two scumflips, I TRed you because I wanted a you/me/hiraki lylo. It had zilch to do with your play.

[Titus]

superbowl not even gonna question why i am voting my townread still. Interesting.

I'm always weirded out when people do the "I thought you were going to ask this question" thing. Why would superbowl specifically ask you why you were voting your townread? Why is it weird for you to be voting your townread when that expressed townread was not Uber strong?

Hmm.

#puts post in the sorting pile

[Titus]

Dunnstral - Can be town
ManWithNoName - Shitty ISO, great vote to shake things up
VOTE: ManWithNoName
Battle Mage - Town
Oil Tycoons (Syryana and Nachomamma8) - Bad Vibes but it's RVS practically, so I want to see if it's just my breakfast leading to my gut here.
Gamma Emerald - No memory of his posts
Bell - Town
Superbowl9 - Waited with baited breath
Firebringer - Weak town, needs to scumclaim
kookiemonster (JohnnyFarrar and Noraa) - Need more posts to sort
Titus - Dead and Alive town
Flea The Magician - Reluctant to call a read here yet
Sugar Cain (Momrangal and Nero Cain) - Weak town
Guillotina - Conflicted about their Bell push. Confident town or scum desperate for content

[Titus]

@Oil Tycoons, Why do you make post 103 defending superbowl9 if it's too early for TRs?

[Titus]

let's mix it up

VOTE: sugar cain

im confbiasing but excuse me while I suggest BM/Oil

-nornorhteconfbiasingbearbear

I highly doubt BM is scum here.

[Titus]

So it sounds like we have voting phase where we select the two scummiest players and then they duke it out in the arena and with the power of friendship one wins while the other loses?

That's an option. The other thing that I was thinking about was putting in a universal townie vs the scummiest player (since I think the mechanic is a bit scumside) but with this playerlist I think playing true to the intent of the mechanic is the most fun.

I don't like putting a universal townie in with a scummy player. It sets up a situation where a scummy looking townie claims a role we really need and we're up shit's creek without a paddle.

I think we should be spontaneous about whom to nominate for the duel. I played a similar game where i was scum and town let us took control of the mechanic. The only two times where town caught one of us was when two FPSers ignored the concensus and went with their gut. Mind you it was a faster game but control of the duel mechanic was detrimental to win it.

This says as much about the competence of town though, rather than the ideal mechanic. If having two shots at scum, one cannot be in the pool, then town aren't likely ruling who gets elected at all (either by agency capture or directly calling the shots).

[Titus]

@Guillotina, I think Bell is town, so I am trying to sort whether you are wrong town or a noise machine.

Your post since then have been a vague mechanics post, and a question about my read on you. Do you have any other thoughts?

@Noraa, you have your right to be wrong. You'll see it later or not. I don't mind having someone being wrong about me, as long as it's not too many someones.

[Titus]

Do you guys even really know what you're even voting for right now?

Who should we be voting?

[Titus]

I'm voting to get content from you.

Who should we be voting?

[Titus]

Yes. I've been discussing what to do with it with two other slots. Are you reading?

Who do you think we should be voting?

[Titus]

@Guillotina, I think Bell is town, so I am trying to sort whether you are wrong town or a noise machine.

Your post since then have been a vague mechanics post, and a question about my read on you.

Do you have any other thoughts?

@Noraa, you have your right to be wrong. You'll see it later or not. I don't mind having someone being wrong about me, as long as it's not too many someones.

My posts since Bell have been a vague mechanic post and a question about your read only?

Are you blind or purposely misrepresenting my contributions?

I dont have any more thoughts as of now, if i did i would have posted them already. Im not shy.

I edited my post wrong. That should have read since my read wall. I don't like your content thus far, and I'm not shy about saying it either.

I expect more from you.

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@Noraa, you have your right to be wrong. You'll see it later or not. I don't mind having someone being wrong about me, as long as it's not too many someones.

Whats ur read on me?

-nornor

Lean town

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@Noraa, you have your right to be wrong. You'll see it later or not. I don't mind having someone being wrong about me, as long as it's not too many someones.

Whats ur read on me?

-nornor

Lean town

Pretty sure ur just scum honestly.
If I remember correctly, you are bad at reading certain playstyles - namely Shelly and I's.
You should be tunneling me here for no reason if town imo.

-nornorandhermetaarguments

Shelly and you hardly have the same playstyle.

Second, I just watched you as scum from the inside and you don't feel the same. You were afraid to go at anyone for the most part, to the detriment of your scumteam. Flavor picked your slot because of Gloria. You have certain indicators, while not perfectly reliable, suggest alignment. You going after people is one such tell.

[Titus]

@Guillotina, I think Bell is town, so I am trying to sort whether you are wrong town or a noise machine.

Your post since then have been a vague mechanics post, and a question about my read on you.

Do you have any other thoughts?

@Noraa, you have your right to be wrong. You'll see it later or not. I don't mind having someone being wrong about me, as long as it's not too many someones.

My posts since Bell have been a vague mechanic post and a question about your read only?

Are you blind or purposely misrepresenting my contributions?

I dont have any more thoughts as of now, if i did i would have posted them already. Im not shy.

I edited my post wrong. That should have read since my read wall. I don't like your content thus far, and I'm not shy about saying it either.

I expect more from you.

I'll give more when im ready not when you expect me to.

Great, then you can stay in my scumleans until you do.

[Titus]

Engaged.

Congrats.

[Titus]

Think what you want about your play Noraa. We see ourselves different than how others see us.

Shelly is much more invested as scum than as town. You're directly the inverse.

I could argue your personality with you all day, or we can scumhunt.

P.S. I think you might be right on Oil.

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Which head just posted?

[Titus]

Nero posting that isn't autoscummy then.

[Titus]

What if Nacho is scum in this game

As of now, Nacho scum doesn't live through a Titus wagon.

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Why is that

I like bread and threatened scum.

[Titus]

When will people learn crumbing is bad

It's not for me here. Usually, I agree with you.

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Why is that

I like bread and threatened scum.

???

This isn't how this interaction typically turns out.

Just what were you expecting?

[Titus]

Why is you getting wagonned good for me as scum?

It's not for you as scum.

[Titus]

VOTE: Oil

VOTE: Oil

[Titus]

Ftr, I don't like the Flea wagon. Feels like a bunch of t v t wall fighting

[Titus]

You're voting the guy who started it if memory serves?

- monny... er, Johnster. You get it.

I'm referring to bm v flea that's t v t.

I'm not sure who started it.

[Titus]

Nvm, dunno why I thought you were voting BM. What makes you think flea and BM are town

Just the intensity, depth, and pointlessness of the wall fight. Tbh I skimmed that noise.

[Titus]

That rule is a great tool for scum to use against us. It punishes content generation and game solving and gives scum a perfect excuse to keep quiet.

sure man, but who is exactly guilty of that?

It seems like a load of horsepucky to me. No one is even near that.

[Titus]

That rule is a great tool for scum to use against us. It punishes content generation and game solving and gives scum a perfect excuse to keep quiet.

sure man, but who is exactly guilty of that?

It seems like a load of horsepucky to me. No one is even near that.

Duh!!! Because of the rule!

Would you be breaking that rule if not imposed?

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I like G's response to mastina, even if I may not agree with it.

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VOTE: Battle Mage
I'll battle today, on condition Flea is up too.

I'd prefer not since I think you're both town.

there's only 2 spaces in the fighting arena, so if oil is in, i cant be

I'd be down for Oil v superbowl, Oil v Guillotina, or superbowl v Guillotina honestly.

VOTE: Oil

I think BM v Flea is TvT, please don't fight each other. We should only be fighting those that are evil, not fighting our friends. <3

If superb gets thrown into the first fighting arena, I will call everyone stupid postgame after he flips town.

I think getting run up day 1 is just town indicative as hell for him honestly.

-nornorbearbear

So you're saying there's no setup where scum superbowl9 gets caught early?

[Titus]

I'll sheep this for now.

VOTE: Sugar Cain

My SR on you just disappeared ^^

UNVOTE: Guillo

-happynornor

Nora, you're doing that thing where if people agree with you, they move higher up in your readslist.

[Titus]

the longer oil tycoon is away the stronger my suspicions stay

I don't like the AtE from Oil to claim that people owe them access to d2 because of prior connections. It's borderline OOG.

[Titus]

*sees Nero wagon*

*must resist urge to pick fight with Nero when scum are wagoned*

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Through page 33,

If everyone SRs Oil and someone else, why are there only two Oil votes?

[Titus]

originally i thought the 'Sugar' in Sugar Cain was Noraa

I was expecting 50% cupcakes and rainbows and 50% trashing Mathblade

What does my brother have to do with this?

[Titus]

I think the eliminations today from favorite to least for me look like this:
Oily
Guillo
BM
Firebringer
Titus
Sugar Cain
Mastina
Flea The Magician
Superbowl9

Are these people even in the game?????? - Gamma Emerald, Bell, Dunnstral

-noraabearrrrrr

I could do Oil, superbowl9 or Bell (based on recent lack of posts).

[Titus]

I think the eliminations today from favorite to least for me look like this:
Oily
Guillo
BM
Firebringer
Titus
Sugar Cain
Mastina
Flea The Magician
Superbowl9

Are these people even in the game?????? - Gamma Emerald, Bell, Dunnstral

-noraabearrrrrr

I dont like my placement in your list at all.

My list looks like this.

Superbowl
Mastina
Bell
Sugar Cain
Dunnstral
Oil
BM
Gamma
Firebringer
Flea
Kookies
Titus

How did I get townier than noraa? Or am I reading this backwards?

[Titus]

I could do Oil, superbowl9 or Bell (based on recent lack of posts).

Do oil.

-norbearbear

Been on Oil for ages. I got on just after BM voted Oil the first time.

[Titus]

Noraa, you really need to slow down to remember things and process.

[Titus]

Guilltonia is another anon alt, great.

[Titus]

Also, if everyne agrees they're scum their scum partner is als agreeing that they're scum. Though, that's not exactly controversial.

Given the consensus and the difficulty getting a wagon through, I am going with either a)scum are soft distancing [X is scum, Y is also scum, votes y] or b) we're way off base

[Titus]

I want to know what Guiltotina's plans are since they're all but claiming a valuable power role.
Unless I'm misinterpreting.

I'm tempted to solve this due to the difficulty of keeping up this game, but I would rather hold off for reasons and risk. I think Oil is much more likely to flip scum.

[Titus]

Yeah I know, I wasn't being super clear.
I'm just pointing out that there are a lot of fairly obvious not scum-team coordinated explanations for an oil wagon stall.

Besides you, what other explanations are you seeing?

[Titus]

@Guillotine, Would it help town if you were conftown?

[Titus]

Yeah, but I'm basically being told Oil is scum but don't see anything explicitly scummy in their iso.
I'm also town so my resistance is just me being me. I get the soft distancing argument but it's creating an explanation for a pheonomena that has multiple other plausible explanations.

Everything from favoritisism, to they seem kind of busy irl, to they don't seem super scummy to "I have a much better scum read guyz"-Nornor. etc

.

That's exactly what a soft distance would look like...

[Titus]

Right if your vote is not on me, guillotina or oil, move it or justify it.

This is why Flea should not be wagoned.

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Like I am possibly wrong on guillotine but I feel their interactions have gotten better while Oil is dodging and relying on personal connections. I'm not willing to die for my reads though.

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Mastina, can you give me one game Day for old times' sake?

How is this not relying on personal connections, particularly when mastina unvotes for that reason?

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VOTE: flea

BM, ffs stop. If you're going to disagree with Oil vote G as their flip may help read others.

[Titus]

Oh fuck, these wagons are both garbage but we need a choice soon. Doubly so if we want Oil in an elimination. Shit. Shit. Shit.

[Titus]

The fact neither is pulling ahead suggests but doesn't prove I am wrong too.

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Mastina, can you give me one game Day for old times' sake?

How is this not relying on personal connections, particularly when mastina unvotes for that reason?

Oh.
Yeah that’s blatant I missed that.

Vote Oil with me?

[Titus]

Just start from here. That's what I do, Mom. (Guessing you're Mom.)

[Titus]

Ok, I may be a bit worried about my vote on oil

Your vote isn't on Oil. I'm alone.

[Titus]

Mom your options at the moment are me or guillotina.

We have two days. Once we pick, two days should be added.

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Mastina, can you give me one game Day for old times' sake?

How is this not relying on personal connections, particularly when mastina unvotes for that reason?

Oh.
Yeah that’s blatant I missed that.

Vote Oil with me?

It’s not actually scummy to connection pull.

Alone, no. That combined with lurking out their wagon is.

Usually, town only do that when misread for trying awkwardly.

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VOTE: flea

BM, ffs stop. If you're going to disagree with Oil vote G as their flip may help read others.

Titus, why would I vote for my townread over my scumread, when they had pretty much the same votes?

I didn't disagree with Oil, I was being pragmatic - we need A flip, and Flea is clearly better chance of scumflip than Guillo.

Flat out you're wrong. Flea is obvtown here.

[Titus]

Flea is playing like Flea plays as scum

Guillo is playing like Guillo plays as town

what on earth do you want from me Titus?

Wrong

Meh ok

A vote on Oil or a vote on G.

[Titus]

Strongly prefer Oil.

[Titus]

Strongly prefer Oil.

thoughts on noraa and flea switching from oil to G and adding unessisary posting while still wanting Oil?

Noraa always adds posting.
Flea wants a consensus elim option to go through, and has accepted the possibility of it being him. [Hint: This is part of why Flea is town.]
Noraa is caught in a tunnel.

Shame they're both town. Those two and BM, we get the momentum to get Oil as an option.

[Titus]

Strongly prefer Oil.

Oil clearly ain't happening. This game is doomed.

I should probably just do what half the playerlist is doing (nothing) and forget about it.

We still have the two days and another elimination phase.

The game is far from doomed even if I don't get my way.

I'd hammer either Flea or G to progress the game, but I strongly prefer elsewhere.

[Titus]

I kinda want Dunn and Oil actually.

[Titus]

This is feeling like a sort by activity game.

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Flea what is your read on me?

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Flea, would this game improve if you were conftown?

Make sure G and Oil answer this as well.

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Thanks. Now I just need G and Oil to answer.

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If any are scum, I like Gamma tbh.

I feel better about Bell when he posts.

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I kinda want Dunn and Oil actually.

Why Dunn?

He's not VLA and he has no presence.

[Titus]

Hmph. You whippersnappers talk a lot.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Oil, is it bad for the game if you became conftown?

[Titus]

Bad vote oil. your options are me or Guillotina currently, unless you want to try and generate a flashwagon so we don't have to SSGSS a wagon for the second combatant.

My options are whatever I want them to be. We have two days on the clock, 2 more days for the second combatant, and no need for a consensus to get someone into the arena.

Flea, would this game improve if you were conftown?

Make sure G and Oil answer this as well.

Also Titus would like your input.

I will answer this if and only if Titus explains what the point of the question is.

If I trusted you and had a private way to answer, I would. Sadly, only one of those is true.

Still, your refusal is very scum indicative. I don't require a reason. Just your opinion. Is a conftown Oil good or bad for the game?

[Titus]

G, I need your response as well. Is a conftown G good or bad for the game?

[Titus]

Bad vote oil. your options are me or Guillotina currently, unless you want to try and generate a flashwagon so we don't have to SSGSS a wagon for the second combatant.

My options are whatever I want them to be.

We have two days on the clock, 2 more days for the second combatant, and no need for a consensus to get someone into the arena.

Flea, would this game improve if you were conftown?

Make sure G and Oil answer this as well.

Also Titus would like your input.

I will answer this if and only if Titus explains what the point of the question is

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why are we not flipping this?

Because you're not voting for it.

[Titus]

But gut-wise, something tonally seems off about her, and I can't place it beyond a feeling of something there being artificial.

Because I am hiding something. I'm either confirmed town or "dead" in one of four ways by day 3. One of which is highly unlikely.

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I am certain guillo is scum. pls help me.

-plsssssssss

this is a ridiculous thing to say unless you have a mech guilty.

1 chance to revoke, otherwise I'm tunnelling you to death once Guillo flips town.

Just vote Oil please. Don't get in tunnel fights please.

[Titus]

VOTE: Oil
I dunno why people SR this but practically everyone has so I'm okay sheeping

What is your Oil read?

[Titus]

In post 1207, Titus wrote:
In post 1193, mastina wrote:
But gut-wise, something tonally seems off about her, and I can't place it beyond a feeling of something there being artificial.
Because I am hiding something. I'm either confirmed town or "dead" in one of four ways by day 3. One of which is highly unlikely.
Okay, I'll buy that.

I just realized one exception to this but it's so minor and it would require claiming and create a T v S scenario so I won't explain it.

[Titus]

BM, Oil is now a thing again.

Oil, I ask again. Is a conftown Oil good or bad for town?

[Titus]

Bad vote oil. your options are me or Guillotina currently, unless you want to try and generate a flashwagon so we don't have to SSGSS a wagon for the second combatant.

My options are whatever I want them to be.

We have two days on the clock, 2 more days for the second combatant, and no need for a consensus to get someone into the arena.

Flea, would this game improve if you were conftown?

Make sure G and Oil answer this as well.

Also Titus would like your input.

I will answer this if and only if Titus explains what the point of the question is

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why are we not flipping this?

Because you're not voting for it.

*waves*

Oil now has a shiny wagon too.

[Titus]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p5184205

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11640048

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Is this how shitposting works?

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And no there shouldn't be ANY claims happening BM, but I've seen more than 1 so far and frankly it concerns me.

have you considered stopping rolefishing then? because the closest we've come to a claim so far, was entirely because of you?

I've already crumbed to those I can safely. I have good reason to though.

[Titus]

This fight so looks like a personality conflict. Not an alignment conflict

+1

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Can I trade roles with BM or Flea please?

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For the sweet love of Jesus, we get it BM and Flea.

The more you talk on the topic, the less persuasive you are. You give Flea room to hide. If Flea is scum, fae will have reads that are shallow. Faer interactions with others will ring hollow eventually. As long as you two talk and tunnel each other you give the other person space to look genuine because everyone genuinely dislikes being tunneled.

Let each other breathe.

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Flea has gotten into 3 arguments with people in this game. I think most town would go "ummm what am i doing that is causing me to get into these many conflicts" and then try to steer away as much as possible from that. But theres little disengagements. I don't think its townie.

Do you remember noob Titus?

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Flea has gotten into 3 arguments with people in this game. I think most town would go "ummm what am i doing that is causing me to get into these many conflicts" and then try to steer away as much as possible from that. But theres little disengagements. I don't think its townie.

Do you remember noob Titus?

Titus u have always been my senpai.

Noob Titus would pick a fight with anyone who disagreed with her reads.

I'm not reading that Flea wall.

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Can flea and oil be scum together?

Let's flip Oil, then discuss their partner.

[Titus]

Can flea and oil be scum together?

Let's flip Oil, then discuss their partner.

Why not the other way around?

Because I have Flea as town.

[Titus]

Can flea and oil be scum together?

Let's flip Oil, then discuss their partner.

Why not the other way around?

yes they can, and Oil first because Oil is nearly over the line.

That too.

[Titus]

Out of respect for the rest of the players in this game, some of whom have requested such, I will not continue to discuss with you, Flea.

One question, whats it going to hurt?

No Flea. Just stop.

[Titus]

Is oil really that scummy? Like whats the case

When Oil eats scum, prepare to eat lead. I am not fighting Noraa to lim you.

[Titus]

mastina, I left you some presents.

If Oil flips scum, don't worry about superbowl9.

There's nothing townie about Oil, so that shouldn't be a problem.

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Titus do you agree Superbowl-scum busses Oil here?

The "what's the case" response could be a partner looking for something to defend Oil with.

I don’t see why scum would push Oil towards the finish line but they don't have a decent place to go as the G wagon disbanded.

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Oil Dunn Superbowl9 Gamma...who is with me?

[Titus]

Oil Dunn Superbowl9 Gamma...who is with me?

Why gamma?

Or Dunnstral
I would ask about superbowl but i think i get why

Sitting on the sidelines

[Titus]

I also have weak to moderate TRs on everyone else

[Titus]

Sitting on the sidelines

Feels like alot are doing that Titus

Absolutely disagree. Who else do you think is?

[Titus]

I also have weak to moderate TRs on everyone else

Really? I only have 2 townreads.

I must be getting slow in my age.

I'm scared to ask how many SL+ reads you got o.o

One and its u

@Titus I think Bell is also. Momarangal is. Nero cain is when it doesn't concern him.

Me to a certain degree.

No on Bell. He literally just commented on the shit fest.

No on that hydra as well. It's been commenting on various slots in the game.

[Titus]

Oil Dunn Superbowl9 Gamma...who is with me?

Half.

I think this is still Dunn as town. Oil I have reservations on.

The other two, tho, yes.

Explain Dunn please.

[Titus]

I am however sitting on a fence in the middle of highway traffic, which I don't actually think I'd do as scum here.
Rather, I'm making myself pretty available when my instinct would usually be to lurk, be passive asf and then die for playing like shit as scum.

+1 Hi town Bell

[Titus]

*sigh*

I'll be so glad when I am dead or conftown. Then I won't have to work around Noraa.

[Titus]

Virtual hugs

[Titus]

Syr, my thoughts on your slot have always been the absense of town makes your slot scummy. You and nacho are some of the best scumhunters on site. I expect to see some of that. Now with a reason for that absense plus an actual efforting post, I have something to reset off of.

I'm not opposed to a gamma yeet either.

VOTE: Gamma

[Titus]

Battle mage Gamma thoughts? Failing that, Guli Gamma thoughts?

-j

I would compromise on Guil. No on BM.

[Titus]

Hey, there's a shiny Gamma wagon?

[Titus]

Can we stop tearing each other apart and just get Gamma? No one TRs him because he's scum.

[Titus]

Can we stop tearing each other apart and just get Gamma? No one TRs him because he's scum.

I'm neutral on Gamma. Nothing to make me want to vote for him.

Why are you neutral?

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i dont think we're getting flea atm. amazing we've totted up 60 pages and we havent even managed to select 1 player who we want to consider more closely.

You want to know why this is?

You, Noraa hydra and Flea have more than half the posts by my estimation. You're drowning us out, making us work twice as hard to get half the reads.

@Syr, Don't sell yourself short. You and Nacho lead by example, sometimes you have to get your second or third best because it is best for town. Sometimes that means doing things you don't understand.

@Gamma, How would you feel about being conftown? Would that be good or bad?

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I don't think it's good rn, I'm not into the game enough to be solid on my reads where I'd like to have conftown status to push them
but why do you ask? You keep asking that question exclusively at people under pressure, why?

Wouldn't conftown status give you more power to push your reads, not less?

I ask because I feel like it. I'm acting like a town treestump. *sings* It's my game and I'll ask what I want to. You would ask too in my shoes.

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Noraa, whose flip would have the most equity (meaning they'd solve the greatest number of slots)?

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Same question to you mastina.

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Oil has pinged me so amma do my thing.

When did we start pinging you? Last time BM asked you about your read on us you were leaning town and I don't think there was much content between then and this post.

Nachos drunkpost pocketing attempt.

That doesn't look like a pocketing attempt. If anything, they're applying pressure to sort you.

[Titus]

Who would Guillo's flip help solve? What results on their townflip? Their scumflip?

[Titus]

If they flip scum, I am conftown.
If they flip town, we look at the wagons and see what happens there.

-bearbeartsutsu

Who really needs to sort you though? Is there anyone doubting you are town?

I'm asking which reads would shake up the game. Hot takes. Takes that would have alternatives

For instance

If Abe is scum, then Brian Charlie and Daniel are town. Edward is scum.
If Abe is town, then Brian is scum while Edward is town.

[Titus]

If they flip scum, I am conftown.
If they flip town, we look at the wagons and see what happens there.

-bearbeartsutsu

Who really needs to sort you though? Is there anyone doubting you are town?

I'm asking which reads would shake up the game. Hot takes. Takes that would have alternatives

For instance

If Abe is scum, then Brian Charlie and Daniel are town. Edward is scum.
If Abe is town, then Brian is scum while Edward is town.

Im not sure but I also haven't read the last 6 pages or something so yeah
Ik im obvtown but idc I believe guillo is scum and I don't care what happens, I am ordering that vig kills Guillo tonight if he doesn't get limmed today.

-tsutsu

I don't think you order around the person with the gun. I'd be surprised if there was a vig in this game (not a counterclaim but a crumb of sorts).

[Titus]

Gamma Firebringer, final offer

-j

Not sure what this means.

[Titus]

Noraa, whose flip would have the most equity (meaning they'd solve the greatest number of slots)?

Honestly, probably one of {Oil, Flea, Battle Mage}.

Problem is, I don't want to flip any of those three.

This is me asking, which means my bready moonlogic applies.

What would their flips sort?

[Titus]

Flea, would this game improve if you were conftown?

Make sure G and Oil answer this as well.

Titus how much easier does this game get for you as conftown?

Conftowning me is dumb unless I conftown myself. I am a dead woman walking and my VCA is difficult and untested in a setup like this. So the game does not get easier.

Tomorrow either scum dies, I die, or the day after I "die". Conftowning me is a waste.

[Titus]

Dunn, would the game improve if you were conftown?

[Titus]

VOTE: Dunn

[Titus]

Why is it that all the people who haven't obvtowned have personal troubles? Not shading but it leaves us nowhere to vote.

[Titus]

The one game I need to be superconfident about my scumread and nope...

[Titus]

Sugar Cain is scum.
Guillo is scum.
y'all dumbos are going to throw some townies into the pit instead of the two whole entire scum I caught. like BRUH

Why is sugar cain scum?

[Titus]

especially from somebody so precious about pronouns and the like.

This is absolutely not acceptable.

You do not get to come here and disrespect us for asking for basic human decency and use that against my lockscum read on you.

+1 I didn't read the context here but a comment like this again Battle Mage and I will do whatever is in my power to see you removed. Once can be forgiven as a grevious error.

[Titus]

Dunn, would the game improve if you were conftown?

VOTE: Dunn

Why is it that all the people who haven't obvtowned have personal troubles? Not shading but it leaves us nowhere to vote.

Not sure what this was.

To answer your question, I'd feel obligated to lead if I were confirmed town

Third quote seems to be a site phenomenon recently. It also doesn't lead to confidence in your vote

I don't have confidence in my vote.

[Titus]

I assumed that Titus's ability was some kind of IC-wand waving, rather than a cop thing because of how she approached it.

Both are correct. I have to use it by day 2's end or I become a treestump.

[Titus]

I really don't like the choices for the second nom. I may just target mastina and make my exit. Not sure.

[Titus]

6 hours left screw it. I am not keeping up anyway.

I am a desperado. I dayvig someone. If they're scum, they die. If they're town, I die and the day ends.

Since I TR both targets, I am just going to shoot mastina because I feel she has the higher town equity and we agree on a lot of reads.

[Titus]

Final Flash: (mastina)

[Titus]

Dunnstral - Scum
ManWithNoName mastina - We'll know
Battle Mage - Town
Oil Tycoons (Syryana and Nachomamma8) - Meh, null
Gamma Emerald - Lean scum
Bell - Town
Superbowl9 - Lean Scum
Firebringer - Lean Town
kookiemonster (JohnnyFarrar and Noraa) - Town
Titus - You'll see
Flea The Magician - Town
Sugar Cain (Momrangal and Nero Cain) - Null, could be scum
Guillotina - Lean town

[Titus]

Yeah, best FMPOV to either prove I am right and give town a legendary active voice or prove I am wrong and eliminate a good scum I was blind to.