DBZ: Cell Games [Over]

[Sugar Cain]

anime is dumb

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also VOTE: Bell

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I think asking why other people have you as town is a common scum tell

its not. This black and white thinking is dumb.

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That must be Mom posting. Because Nerocain would never vote me,
right?

I think its Nero cuz Mom is the solve-y flareon type player :O

-nornorthemomexpert(notreallybutshush)

clearly, I sit there and do nothing all game. I must be the 2nd coming of not_mafia

Shelly is much more invested as scum than as town. You're directly the inverse.

I'm not sure if I agree with this. RE: Noraa being more invested as town

I think there are a TON of players that are more proactive as scum than town and Titus is one of them so...

Bell vs. Titus today?

[Sugar Cain]

nero

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no clue

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anime is dumb

VOTE: Sugar Cain This needs to be TURBO LIMMED

VOTE: Sugar cain

nerds

@ whomever asked-my mini wagon is basically RVS wagon.

[Sugar Cain]

Not anymore buddy give me content or die

this is how scum push me.

I am active and am reading hunting and playing. This whole "content or die" is a scum push.

vote: SB

[Sugar Cain]

Yeah the cain wagon is BS. Me no likey.

then vote SB.

that false bravado is scummy as fuck.

[Sugar Cain]

Yeah the cain wagon is BS. Me no likey.

then vote SB.

that false bravado is scummy as fuck.

Last time superb was run up day 1 he was town. we are not going to have a repeat of that here.

-nornorsaysNONONO

this is a fallacy

He's lying when he says that I have no reads or content. Why would town lie like that?

also in a game that punishes us for posting more should he really be asking for more posts?

[Sugar Cain]

Yeah the cain wagon is BS. Me no likey.

then vote SB.

that false bravado is scummy as fuck.

Last time superb was run up day 1 he was town. we are not going to have a repeat of that here.

-nornorsaysNONONO

this is a fallacy

He's lying when he says that I have no reads or content. Why would town lie like that?

also in a game that punishes us for posting more should he really be asking for more posts?

I didn't say you had no reads. Can you tell me what content you have? And wdym punishing us for more posts?

reads

ARE

content. My job is to find the scum and I don't need to comment on things that seem useless to me to do that. And it's not like the first 5-9 pages were super important. I'm not that kind of player that needs to be prodded for content and a guy with experience with me should know that. The only thing I could have maybe done a better job on is my gut Bell scum read.

Also

Super-Posting (Special Mechanic)

Each player uses Ki by posting. A player will achieve Super-Posting by making more than 60% of the posts after 20 Pages. Super-posting is a debuff that will limit your actions both in-thread and during the night phase. Your actions in NAR will be less prioritized (including beneficiaries done to you) and you may receive a MOD VOTE if you continue posting. After 24 hours your Super-posting will go down by 10%, allowing you to post again. If you are one of the two in Nomination Phase, this mechanic will not be in effect, just don't abuse it. Ki will reset each following dayphase.

[Sugar Cain]

My scum read on Bell was b/c I didn't like his opening. I mean I did go back and reread it and it wasn't as bad as I first thought but still it was kinda meh...

like 24 just seems scummy like he's been caught off guard that this started.

28, 48 are just empty hops. He's pushing Flea as scum but it just seems like flea to me so I'm not understanding this "Flea is so different this game!" Also, he didn't vote there until BM did which was sus.

Didn't really like his reaction 114 but most ppl have shit reactions anyway.

We should definitely nom FB first just because that WOULD be the most fun.

Why would it be fun?

He's also kinda

ate

ing and trying to excuse himself if Flea flips town.

If they are town, I am bad at mafia.

I am bad at mafia btw.

[Sugar Cain]

That rule is a great tool for scum to use against us. It punishes content generation and game solving and gives scum a perfect excuse to keep quiet.

sure man, but who is exactly guilty of that?

[Sugar Cain]

Father grant me the strength.

[Sugar Cain]

Father grant me the strength.

Where is Mom?

-nornorrequestsmomcometalktoher

i don't know

[Sugar Cain]

Guillotina's "Nero isn't scum hunting" is chock full of shit. I'd be ok if we gladiate them. Dunno y ppl think Bell is town though.

[Sugar Cain]

could someone explain the oil thing to me? mom isn't here and I need a temporary hydra partner.

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@ the risk of Noraa raging @ me, I do find your hyper fluff posting to be very annoying.

more on a game thing though: I think your X had good reads in a game and X got run-up as town are both silly reasons to excuse someone from elimination.

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I still think Flea is a silly elimination or glad candidate or w/e. Still don't get the oil case and was disappointed that noraa just said that they are scummy but didn't really explain why.

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mom hasn't been here yet.

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maybe if you explained why instead of sat there and shouted from a safe distance like the scum you are.

[Sugar Cain]

Im not gonna case someone on mobile while im on vacation sorry

I mean, there is no case against me. I'm just town doing my own thing and I'm being targeted by scum like I often am. Noraa could be scum here that's protecting you but I coulda also see her lashing out b/c I called her posting annoying. Gul is a bad hunter but seems to be sheeping you.

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she's either scum that's doubling down or conf biased town.

[Sugar Cain]

she's either scum that's doubling down or conf biased town.

I've said like three things about you yet you're already discrediting.

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it's actually just an objective fact. I have no need to dis your credit.

[Sugar Cain]

Mom's not posting b/c moms not here to post. Like she hasn't posted in our discord since the 31st. I mean, she does have a little activity on site but I'm not sure why she hasn't declared that her head was v/la in this game. I mean she prob figured I could hold down the fort and didn't expect scum/bad town to push me based on her head not being here. I think the push on me has been shit and I highly doubt my wagon is all town.

[Sugar Cain]

not doing mastina. don't really want to do Flea. Gul is fine. I'd reluctantly be ok with Oil. Would do spam monster and scumbowl.

[Sugar Cain]

like Noraa, if you're town tunneling me over Mom being absent then you (and Gamma) are just horrible and need to stop but I think you could easily just be scum here so...

[Sugar Cain]

Im not tunneling you over Mom being absent

good thing I never said you were.

im tunneling you over this not being town!you at all.

given that you are such an expert on that and all, right? And this is not what your original push was it was b/c I wasn't "scumhunting" which ignores that I was pushing Bell as scum on p5 and then noticed that (imo) Titus was being more proactive and more like her scum game than her town game. I was deff hunting and playing and the only person to notice how fake and false your push was (besides myself) was Mastina. You're just scum and there's not really any point in arguing with you.

[Sugar Cain]

sure?

no way you ever contemplate if someone pushing your wagon is scum, right? + u are defending and hard town reading scummy AF SB so...

[Sugar Cain]

u assumed a post that starts with "like noraa" and was clearly directed at her was addressed to you?

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Superb is just like that as town and I will continue to defend him.

what do u think of Mastina's accusation that he's not playing like MSOB10?

[Sugar Cain]

This is the epitome of what a great scum hunter should be

i agree wholeheartedly

[Sugar Cain]

but the point is I WAS doing it as opposed to u claiming that I wasn't.

[Sugar Cain]

My scum read on Bell was b/c I didn't like his opening. I mean I did go back and reread it and it wasn't as bad as I first thought but still it was kinda meh...

like 24 just seems scummy like he's been caught off guard that this started.

28, 48 are just empty hops. He's pushing Flea as scum but it just seems like flea to me so I'm not understanding this "Flea is so different this game!" Also, he didn't vote there until BM did which was sus.

Didn't really like his reaction 114 but most ppl have shit reactions anyway.

We should definitely nom FB first just because that WOULD be the most fun.

Why would it be fun?

He's also kinda

ate

ing and trying to excuse himself if Flea flips town.

If they are town, I am bad at mafia.

I am bad at mafia btw.

[Sugar Cain]

but the point is I WAS doing it as opposed to u claiming that I wasn't.

You was doing what? Scum hunting? Sorry but i don't see it. If that was, try harder or get the guillotine (pun intended)

could you explain how that was different from my LG230 intro?

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It's not anything I do for meta and I'm sure that I could find more examples but I just have a tendency to vote first, talk later. I did the same with muh in lg230 so fmpov it's extremely coincidental that u have "forgotten" that I also opened up like that in lg230 but you seem to think that it's "not scumhunting" itt

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I are also changing the reason for scumreading me for "not hunting" to "not being the same" as mastina pointed out I was very much hunting and playing albeit maybe not as forcefully and with less words and I think someone in your scum pt pointed out that your "nero isn't hunting" doesn't pass the sniff test and so you changed your story. You're just scum with a fake push

[Sugar Cain]

And how would you know if I was avoiding the thread? You are just saying strongly worded bullshit.

[Sugar Cain]

VOTE: guliotina

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saying that I'm being active is kinda dumb. I owe it to the town and myself to fight my lynch. There's like no good reason to lynch town unless you think I'm being disruptive or something.

[Sugar Cain]

saying that I'm being active is kinda dumb.

should read " saying that I'm being active only b/c I got pushed s kinda dumb

[Sugar Cain]

guil said he'd fight oil, lets do it!

[Sugar Cain]

HEAL: battlemage

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so I don't like the Cain wagon at all, feels opportunistic given the reasoning I've seen.

I started it. Whats wrong?

-norbearbear

IIRC you started it because you wanted mom?

no not exactly.

=nrobearbeab

ur mostly lying. TBF, u did vote me after I called u annoying but ur whole case was that mom wasn't here. Then later on you did throw around some buzzwords but yeah

[Sugar Cain]

if ur entire case on me is "Nero's hydra patner isn't around" then yes.

[Sugar Cain]

You have done nothing but discredit me and panic

[Sugar Cain]

I have a q. If Mom and Nacho and SB are all good players with good reads why is it that you are willing to lynch mom and nacho d1 but not SB?

[Sugar Cain]

while most of your other points against mom's hydra are valid she has stuff keeping her from the game

lol no they aren't

[Sugar Cain]

Wtf is going on

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Why have I been informed that we are being pushed while I am not here

[Sugar Cain]

NO SHEEPLES

[Sugar Cain]

I just got back and I need to digest 30some pages so.... I'll need a minute but no sheeples

[Sugar Cain]

Idk where nero dropped our vote, but I'm ending the night here

VOTE: Oil tycoons

[Sugar Cain]

its almost like we should stop being bad and vote in oil first and then when that's done we can vote in guil. priorities ppl.

[Sugar Cain]

I think it's cute that noraa is calling Guil scum now but its something i knew 20 pages ago.

[Sugar Cain]

her and johnnys SB thing is still a fallacy though. Also, I don't think he's as good as Noraa is claiming and I think thats pretty scummy.

[Sugar Cain]

but ima help her bus G here.

[Sugar Cain]

G has like 3 votes now. Dunno why we didn't just finish off oil first before we split the vote but not everyone can be competent

[Sugar Cain]

I love it when I get off on technicalities.

[Sugar Cain]

the order doesn't matter

[Sugar Cain]

honestly, I rather do you and oil b/c your derailing the oil wagon for shit all reason. "i have a higher scum read on guil." FINE! guils going in the fucking arena but we should just finish oil ff and u r just adding unessisary spam by trying to prolong the no phase

[Sugar Cain]

I think u are the most something but is not towny.

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splitting the votes was still dumb but

VOTE: Guillotina

[Sugar Cain]

I'm days behind in thousands of games and this one has 40 pages, no I haven't read shit.

[Sugar Cain]

Ok, I may be a bit worried about my vote on oil

[Sugar Cain]

Ok, I may be a bit worried about my vote on oil

Your vote isn't on Oil. I'm alone.

I don't think nero moved it?

[Sugar Cain]

Oh he did.

Correctly too, I'm not interested in the fae not all not ever

[Sugar Cain]

Just start from here. That's what I do, Mom. (Guessing you're Mom.)

Haaaiiiii titusss

Ur brother is an amazing mason budz

[Sugar Cain]

I already told you to go talk to mom if ur town. if ur not town, then by all means, lim the IC. Yes, I do think im the towniest player in this game and the closest person to an IC here.

-norbearbear

I agree, we're fighting

[Sugar Cain]

We aren't on flea

[Sugar Cain]

Strongly prefer Oil.

thoughts on noraa and flea switching from oil to G and adding unessisary posting while still wanting Oil?

[Sugar Cain]

like flea scum literally got called out in their last game for bad-faith pushes. and that's all they've done in this game. No idea how anyone can town read them. *shakes head in disbelief*

Town flea did the same thing in the last game!

[Sugar Cain]

Mom who is scum here?

-nornor

Right now my slots of interest are BM, Nacho, and Guillotina

[Sugar Cain]

I kinda want Dunn and Oil actually.

Why Dunn?

[Sugar Cain]

FFS I'm working 12 hour shifts now Noraa, I don't have the same amount of time I did in past games! There are 11 other players that I want to play with and sort out! Sorry I'm not sorry for not dedicating 20 more pages bickering back and forth with you but I just don't have the time! I'm almost a V/LA where I can spend just a few hours here, so you can't expect me to just focus on you so you won't scum read me! Come on now! Different game, different circumstances.

????

You scum read nora do you not?

cough nothing to see here

[Sugar Cain]

Gamma sniping @ me from a safe distance is pretty bad.

[Sugar Cain]

Is there a reason to vote them

I mean I was voting them b/c his "nero isn't scumhunting" was a lie from the bottom pits of hell and then he changed his reasoning to "nero isn't being the same" He's trying to argue that they are one in the same but I disagree. He's saying that my blankRVS looking vote on Bell wasn't scumhunting but when I pointed out that I had a similar opening in LG230 he "forgot" so mypov he's scum that got caught sheeping dumb town SB and noraa is trying desperately to bus.

What do u like about him?

[Sugar Cain]

Momrangal while present now was largely absent, in a way similar to the previous Sugar Cain scumgame where Mom was largely absent and Nero did most of the posting.

I just came off of a V/LA. I will throw a tantrum if you try to use me lurking as a reason to scum read our slot. The last scum game we had, I was the more active partner

[Sugar Cain]

I have tried several times to extend the olive branch though and said I won't engage with that slot's tunnel on me to keep the game moving productively.

Have you?

I've seen no such thing.

I have also seen you state things that faer never do as town, do those as town. More than one person has noted it and your still going down this rediculous tunnel, to the extent that it seems that you're ignoring the rest of the game

[Sugar Cain]

There's to much to read. Maybe if everyone stopped posting

[Sugar Cain]

I miss the days where we only had a few pages a day

[Sugar Cain]

FFS I'm working 12 hour shifts now Noraa, I don't have the same amount of time I did in past games! There are 11 other players that I want to play with and sort out! Sorry I'm not sorry for not dedicating 20 more pages bickering back and forth with you but I just don't have the time! I'm almost a V/LA where I can spend just a few hours here, so you can't expect me to just focus on you so you won't scum read me! Come on now! Different game, different circumstances.

????

You scum read nora do you not?

cough nothing to see here

Hey Mara. Long time no see.

It has been.

Forgive me for keeping your slot at arm's length

[Sugar Cain]

There's to much to read. Maybe if everyone stopped posting

I can do this. But only if you promise to town read me and never stop.

Wish I could, our experience together was too brief. I can see some play parallels though

Pedit: I know what I have seen, and what my partner has told me. I also saw you removed yourself from the tunnel like titus had asked. I did see the initial post where you scum read him and I do remember it being super off base for someone you apparently know inside and out

[Sugar Cain]

VOTE: gamma

[Sugar Cain]

Mastina, when was the last time nacho pulled wool over your eye?

[Sugar Cain]

I did a thorough iso on BM and I still fail to see where the olive branches are. His iso confirmed exactly what was relayed to me. Not only have they been tunneled on flea all day for rediculous reasons, there is minimal mentions on literally any other slot and they are all in relation to his read on flea. He doesn't like the fact that I'm coming in talking about it, and immediately tried discredit my slot, and put nero above me.

It was a weird mention because prior to that, he had talked about our slot literally zero times and he did back down from the tunnel but literally has nothing else to say about the game state.

He also doesn't town or scum read gamma, but is Willing to defend him? He also can't remember where other players other than flea fall on his PoE list which means he isn't hunting for scum, and if he's town here he has confbiased himself to the point where he cannot contribute to the game at all.

I'm inclined to call the tunnel town, but I'm not at all happy with the shade I was given for defending flea, and the blatant Buddying of people who he beleived could help them with fae, regardless of what he beleived the alignment of those people to be.

[Sugar Cain]

Nora is town, flea is town, bell is probably town, I'm inclined to mastina and titus town this game. Mastina entrance and how she posts is town. Iirc she has a complete inability to play that was as scum, and I don't see titus flaunting around her potential PR in the way that she is as scum.

That leaves Dunn, FB, SB, BM, Oil, guillo, and gamma

This is the last thing I wrote before thread lock.

[Sugar Cain]

VOTE: FB

???

[Sugar Cain]

I'm getting a sense of FB wanting to be in the ring as indicative as something beyond alignment reasons

[Sugar Cain]

Do we have Superbowl as a scum read?

I have no opinion on that slot yet, and Nero didn't convey such a read to me.

What makes you think the left-overs= scum?

[Sugar Cain]

Gamma- I can imagine a world where Gamma could be scum and taking advantage of the heat on our slot to use as a reason to push our slot as scum but, as scum he could have just let Nora Tunnel the shit out of us while I wasn't around, and let her go on her scum-reading rampage. Largely underwhelming but I feel like he is sidelined, playing referee.

I am not feeling super good about the fact that he's playing advocate and was eager to get us into the arena even before I was even a presence in the game

[Sugar Cain]

Oil- I mainly want them in the arena because of the fact that lighting a fire under nachos behind is the best way to get him to show his alignment, and what better way than a forced 1v1.

I am keeping Mastinas review on they slot, and she did bring up a solid point regarding the heat they are taking.

What scum-team is willing to bus Nacho, especially this early on?

[Sugar Cain]

Nero has been pushing SB as scum and you guys nominated Gamma to go to the arena.

Aye he did, it was lost in the flurry of posts that I didn't respond to. The way SB positioned himself against us was shady as hell.

To answer your question though, the world of WIFOM. considering the fact that the votes don't lead to lynches right away we could be wrong in one of our pushes and you could still be scum with our other pick.

[Sugar Cain]

nero head letting everyone know i'll be back tomorrow

[Sugar Cain]

I'm gonna lose my shit and do stuff I regret

I can't do this game today

[Sugar Cain]

VOTE: BM

[Sugar Cain]

BM, other than a somewhat insensitive post why are you being pushed?

[Sugar Cain]

I want Mastina in the arena!

That rhymed. so cool.

Also, I would be extremely happy with a Conf town Mastina *hints at titus*
*nudges titus's elbow*

if Mastina gets put in the arena today and is eliminated we couldn't even get a conf town Mastina if she's town. So why would you be voting her if you want her investigated?

[Sugar Cain]

ummmm what?

[Sugar Cain]

I mean I realize that my hyrda partner but a vote on BM and I don't think it really matters if he goes b/c I doubt I vote him over Gamma but still...

[Sugar Cain]

Mastina is dead cuz she is IC

like wtf are you doing?

Also, wtf are there specs on whether titus's role is town or scum? Titus is dead.

It's late, but SBvGuillo seems TvS and I need to see which nero thinks is more likely scum. I'm partial to guillo

~sugar

[Sugar Cain]

Guys srsly.

Titus stopped all active night actions when she died

[Sugar Cain]

It's in her death scene

[Sugar Cain]

READ HER DEATH SCENE

[Sugar Cain]

Or, well it's right after but I assumed that when she died, she hypnotized everyone

Pedit: not true! I know a little

[Sugar Cain]

For such an ability to be someone else's though, it would have been needed to submit during the day, before titus fully claimed her ability. It would have taken foresight, or the person would have needed to be on immediately after she activated her ability for it to take effect tonight

[Sugar Cain]

What is IC?

With all your experience in mafia and you don't know what an innocent child is?

I don't buy it

[Sugar Cain]

I don't think abilities can be activated during twilight?

[Sugar Cain]

Also, Guillo essentially outed themselves as scum calling me blind based solely on the Kookie read, because they didn't talk about Oil at all which means they're likely trying to discredit me to weaken my push on Oil but not bring up Oil.

Classic hatchet.

I... I scum read guillo but like, this reeks of misrepping a statement.

[Sugar Cain]

Also, gaize I like, know dbz characters.... >>

Where is my cain

[Sugar Cain]

Their posts just read very agendad. It feels so inorganic there's a very strong gut reaction when I read it. You don't get that?

I don't get it, it feels typical nacho.

I'm also keen on seeing things from mastinas pov, and put the nacho-dra as town here.

[Sugar Cain]

The fae I beleive to be town.

I'm not fond of the pushes finral is making at all

VOTE: finral

[Sugar Cain]

Also, Guillo essentially outed themselves as scum calling me blind based solely on the Kookie read, because they didn't talk about Oil at all which means they're likely trying to discredit me to weaken my push on Oil but not bring up Oil.

Classic hatchet.

I... I scum read guillo but like, this reeks of misrepping a statement.

Aren't you my white knight in shiny armor?

How about some scum hunting?

Pftttttt

[Sugar Cain]

@mod

Replace our slot with just Nero.

This game is too emotionally taxing for me