DBZ: Cell Games [Over]

[Firebringer]

Its time to get real,

I am going to take you all down in that ring. There aint gonna be a need for a second round, I can beat you all with one hand tied behind my back at the same time! You fools don't know the first thing about the martial arts.

points at Dunnstral

Hey you, punk. Think you are tough enough to take on the peoples champion?!?! Or you going to cower and go home to mommy instead of me wiping the floor of this arena with your butt.

gestures at superbowl9

I bet this guy thinks he is hot stuff. But he has never had to face a real challenger like me! I can lift a hundred scrawny hims with one finger.

looks at Bell

and who invited this clown to this tournament? I thought this was a martial arts tournament, not a weakest human show. Can you even throw a punch pal?

This is gonna be a short tournament and I hope you all don't blink cause you might just miss the whole thing.

VOTE: Battle Mage

[Firebringer]

SUPER-POSTING (SPECIAL MECHANIC)
Each player uses Ki by posting. A player will achieve Super-Posting by making more than 60% of the posts after 20 Pages. Super-posting is a debuff that will limit your actions both in-thread and during the night phase. Your actions in NAR will be less prioritized (including beneficiaries done to you) and you may receive a MOD VOTE if you continue posting. After 24 hours your Super-posting will go down by 10%, allowing you to post again.
cial Mechanic)Each player uses Ki by posting. A player will achieve Super-Posting by making more than 60% of the posts after 20 Pages. Super-posting is a debuff that will limit your actions both in-thread and during the night phase. Your actions in NAR will be less prioritized (including beneficiaries done to you) and you may receive a MOD VOTE if you continue posting. After 24 hours your Super-posting will go down by 10%, allowing you to post again.

Ok but first, why do I have a feeling this was added when unwnd saw me /in?
VOTE: Firebringer

-kookiebearbearnornor

Ill give you one thing, coming after the champion with your first swing wasn't a bad move. But you gonna need to get this whole playerlist to go at me at same time to even stand a chance bahahahahaha

[Firebringer]

VOTE: firebringer

bring me some fire

You swing as hard as your grandmother

[Firebringer]

Father..... I trust in your reads

It's time for me to unleash my true potential

GUAHHHHHHHHH

VOTE: firebringer

Look kid, if you want to come back when you are bit older maybe you will have a chance in the junior division. I can't beat up a small child on national television though.

is firebringer scum too, or are you just buddying him?

If you want to look for allies of mine, then look no further as I don't need any allies.

(weird post by BM but probably not ai. actually might indicate town)

[Firebringer]

My strongest read right now is BM is town

[Firebringer]

superbowl not even gonna question why i am voting my townread still. Interesting.

[Firebringer]

superbowl not even gonna question why i am voting my townread still. Interesting.

I'm not actually reading this, I have business to take care of a bookmark down

How dare you ignore the peoples champion

[Firebringer]

I guess ill have to wait for tomorrow to post when others are posting. Game too slow right now and everyone probably sleeping.

[Firebringer]

Is this Nora town game

[Firebringer]

We should definitely nom FB first just because that WOULD be the

Fire might get sued for beating up small children tho

-nornorisconcerned.

Bahahaha like anyone would sue the champ! I am my own jurisdiction. The world has no authority over me!

[Firebringer]

Titus I am gonna claim town this game

[Firebringer]

@nacho heyo sorry didn’t acknowledge u in opening post. Thanks for invite to game. How u doin bud?

[Firebringer]

Nero where is ur sugar

[Firebringer]

What if Nacho is scum in this game

[Firebringer]

Why is that

[Firebringer]

When will people learn crumbing is bad

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Sugar cain

[Firebringer]

Anime must be protected

Anime is the savior of mankind and needs no protection.
But those who besmirch the good name of anime are obviously evil Cell Juniors.

[Firebringer]

What if Nacho is scum in this game

Then sure would be nice if someone clued me in!

I think someone else got ur red pm. Just ask mod to resend ur red pm.

[Firebringer]

What if Nacho is scum in this game

Then sure would be nice if someone clued me in!

I think someone else got ur red pm. Just ask mod to resend ur red pm.

Awww see now this is the charm that I signed up for

Ur too kind.

It will be your downfall. How do u feel about me going offscript and claiming TOWN

[Firebringer]

the more i think about it the more some of BM best town tells haven't appeared. SO while I do townlean BM, waiting on those big town tells to lock it in for my bet.

[Firebringer]

iill lock nora as town now though final answer

[Firebringer]

I dont think flea is being aa dick

[Firebringer]

anyone else find when people say "my dude" its really cringe

[Firebringer]

I dont think flea is being aa dick

i dont care what you or others think, im not going to debate it. that's me asking nicely for things to be focussed on alignments and not personal baiting.

if i thought a rule had been breached, i'd have followed the rules and contacted the Mod.

ur little standoffish/aggro right now though. Think u could chill a bit

[Firebringer]

Firebringer shed some light on this will ya, from your outside perspective whats your considerations and conclusions on me vs bm?

not getting anything out of it

[Firebringer]

Dunnstral would you like to be masons with me?

[Firebringer]

i honestly didn't much read it either

[Firebringer]

iill lock nora as town now though final answer

I feel fine with my vote so far.

what do u mean

[Firebringer]

V/LA till Saturday 1/9

Really busy with year end. Will be lucky if i see the light of day

[Firebringer]

He is too weird

I pride myself on this. Thank you

[Firebringer]

Norra can u tone down the energy level.

[Firebringer]

the old folks here can't keep up with you (myself)

[Firebringer]

nora u just posted 20 times without anyone posting inbetween.

That is ridiculous. Chill the fuck out

[Firebringer]

u know whaat.

i am just gonna ask.

Mastina why did u join this game with me in it?

[Firebringer]

nora u just posted 20 times without anyone posting inbetween.

That is ridiculous. Chill the fuck out

...

*decides to feed nornor the EPIC LEVEL sugar+caffeine doom frapp fae had to make several times*

(Pretty sure that legally I wasn't allowed to serve it, there was a LOT of sugar and caffeine in there. Venti drink, 4 shots espresso, 5 pumps white mocha, half ice, half milk 5 pumps caramel and 5 pumps hazelnut - certainly kept you chugging through a night shift)

Both of you are on my shit list.

[Firebringer]

I hate 3 people in this game right now. Lord give me the patience to deal with these three. This was supposed to be a fun game.

[Firebringer]

lol let's pause the actual game, and play "guess who firebringer hates"

mastina
flea
nora

there u go

[Firebringer]

i feel like ur just trying to engage in a fight with me. Or you are socially unaware. I am gonna ignore you.

[Firebringer]

cause when someone says "sounds like a you problem" they aren't trying to alleviate or help resolve the underlying conflict. And I never said it wasn't my problem. You are just flagging in my face "well we aren't going to make any changes so you have to suffer through it".

Like okay. So i am not engaging with you.

[Firebringer]

I hate 3 people in this game right now. Lord give me the patience to deal with these three. This was supposed to be a fun game.

Thats ruuuuuuuude.

-nornorbear

I am the rudest

[Firebringer]

6. Golden Rule. Treat others how you want to be treated. Do not personally attack others. Do not be a dick, unless you're me. Settle your battles in the Arena.

What if i don't want to be treated well?

[Firebringer]

I wish to be nominated.

[Firebringer]

SEND ME INTO THE RING. I AM GONNA WIPE THE FLOOR WITH ANY SCRAWNY ASS YOU PUT ME AGAINST.

I am the peoples champion!

I can tear 3 phone books in half with my bear hands. Bahahhahaahaha

[Firebringer]

i will never understand why folks just sit there and complain they dont understand why someone is being voted....when the solution would be to read the reasons people gave when they voted, or better yet, make their own assessment of that player.

why dont u understand

[Firebringer]

what tone shift and what defensiveness. lol

[Firebringer]

nero cain is also either town or scum

[Firebringer]

cause when someone says "sounds like a you problem" they aren't trying to alleviate or help resolve the underlying conflict. And I never said it wasn't my problem. You are just flagging in my face "well we aren't going to make any changes so you have to suffer through it".

Like okay. So i am not engaging with you.

You've pointed out a problem without providing information.
My options are:
- Overreact massively, allow my social paranoia to take over and become quiet and timid and ultimately detrimental.
- Dismiss it as I've been provided no information, keep going as I am.
- Point out that I've acknowledged your position, however, as you haven't provided any context or information, point out that I refuse to change anything based on zero information.

I can't alleviate the problem if I don't know what it is, I cant resolve a conflict I'm not aware of.

How exactly is me not complaining about the problem not providing any information on the problem.

I was complaining about norra being excessively spammy. You encouraged her spam while telling me to lay off. I say "this is ridiculous" you respond with "thats a you problem" me "sounds like you just want to start a fight" then you go "well i have no awareness of what this conflict is other than you are mad about something".

How is your position even a thing.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Flea

[Firebringer]

I shall see you in the ring. You are gonna need your A game if you want to even have sliver of a chance taking me on.

[Firebringer]

is kinda annoying

ironic

[Firebringer]

is kinda annoying

ironic

If that's all you have to say about my last 5 content filled to the brim posts, then im fine with yeeting you into the fighting arena.

-norbearbear

Ur much better now than 2 pages ago. So i will give u that.

But yes, i do want to go into the fighting arena. Pls send me.

[Firebringer]

Ur much better now than 2 pages ago. So i will give u that.

But yes, i do want to go into the fighting arena. Pls send me.

And you have posted approximately 0.5 posts with content. I'd argue that's not at all better than me in many way tho you haven't spammed.

-norbeario

Your dick is very big. Congrats.

[Firebringer]

okay now i am instigating. Nora was there something u wanted to talk about or did u just want to tell everyone ur better than me.

[Firebringer]

okay now i am instigating. Nora was there something u wanted to talk about or did u just want to tell everyone ur better than me.

actually this post still sounds like i am instigating. I meant is there anything u just wanted to talk about. U can call me shit i dont really mind it.

[Firebringer]

well i don't really care about ur content. I have u as town. and since i have u as town there is nothing for me to really engage with u on. Even if u hard scumread me, i really wouldn't put any effort into engaging with u.

So while its good ur putting more content into ur posts, and i do appreciate the change in attitude, its not like i am gonna engage with u because of the change in meaningful ways? like i have no problem with people shit posting. u were just being pretty obnoxious about it.

i can see why me being snarky about it was annoying to u. I was just bemused by the irony and thought pointing it out. I didn't intend to annoy you with it. But nonethless i did. So sorry about that.

[Firebringer]

I NEED MORE SUPPORT TO ENTER THE RING!!!!!

DONT YOU WANT TO SEE THE CHAMP SHOW OF HIS MOVES IN THE RING!?!?!?!

[Firebringer]

if i am being anti town then im not exactly being "LAMIST". And no, i want to fight in the ring and prove myself the champion and savior of mankind.

[Firebringer]

the longer oil tycoon is away the stronger my suspicions stay

[Firebringer]

gamma uve known me for like 2 years.
i know ive told u before "im not engaging with u because i already have x read on u"

i can't tell if ur being willfully dumb or u legit forgot.

[Firebringer]

But I do enjoy the vote.
Keep it up

[Firebringer]

When it’s a scumread that’s valid
But why would you avoid engaging with townreads, since they can help you with other reads if needed? Tbh the answer’s prob obvious but may as well ask

cause them being town doesn't mean i get anything out of engaging with them.
their reads could be shit, what do i have to gain by talking to them about their possible shit reads

its actually more valuable to engage with scumreads cause it helps either build a case or disafirm a bad read.
the only reason to read a townie is if u think ur possibly wrong about said townie.

but sometimes i don't want to engage with scumreads either.

[Firebringer]

i mean i don't find it very useful engaging with town who scumread me unless they want the engagement. I mean if u try to take an active role in someones read of u, they are often just going to double down on whatever read they had of u prior.

thats just how the mind works, as soon as someone sees ur trying to influence it they shield itself from change.

[Firebringer]

heres a free tip to all scum players who want to improve:
the best way to get townread is to post alot
the second best way to get townread is to not care about getting townread and not work towards that but continue doing your own thing.

townies who scumread u will often doubt themselves eventually especially if u can really show how little u care about their scumread and it will shaken their read because they will go "wow x isn't phased by my scumread. I must not have a good read. Otherwise he would have responded in some way that reaffirmed this read"

its paradoxical but it works.

FREE TIPS FROM THE CHAMPION!

[Firebringer]

mudsling my townread? Okay.

[Firebringer]

I am rude bringer

[Firebringer]

Hey dunnstral hows life

[Firebringer]

excuse my ignorance but what exactly is a "fae"

[Firebringer]

fire's vote on me is BS policy/rage voting.

i ain't mad at u? or policy u. I scumread u.

also what is a "fae"

[Firebringer]

excuse my ignorance but what exactly is a "fae"

Fae = faeries = a pronoun choice that causes a lot of anger in the pagan world.

It's also the one I'm most comfortable with, if you're not comfortable using fae/faer please use they/them

wait like the mythical creature?
okay im just gonna use they

[Firebringer]

I think your seeking to start fights in a way to get townread.

[Firebringer]

First with bell then with me.

[Firebringer]

My read came from analyzing our interaction and then going back and rereading ur interaction with bell. I don't think its coincidence that we had a tiffy nor bell and u had one. I think its motivated in a way to engage in fights to make it look like ur getting into TvT

[Firebringer]

HEAL: battlemage

I found dende

[Firebringer]

why are you assuming i'm scum? where's the case?

By good town players I meant nacho and momrangal.

-nornor

Interesting.

[Firebringer]

All's Fair in Love and Mafia

Spoiler:

Nvm, dunno why I thought you were voting BM. What makes you think flea and BM are town

Just the intensity, depth, and pointlessness of the wall fight. Tbh I skimmed that noise.

you skimmed yet you're calling TvT? uhh...*shrug* fair.

I actually like this VOTE: Flea

What do you like about it?

That you're getting pressured. I'm liking this push from the new BM

Fair doobie.

*Offers Mastina a Mocha made by faer own fair hand*

My read came from analyzing our interaction and then going back and rereading ur interaction with bell. I don't think its coincidence that we had a tiffy nor bell and u had one. I think its motivated in a way to engage in fights to make it look like ur getting into TvT

Fair enough, so If I ask you to look at Oil and bell interactions?

Like the beings told in scare tales that people often make bad deals with.

and that's fair

I think your seeking to start fights in a way to get townread.

Unless this is the answer, in which case, fair.

fire's vote on me is BS policy/rage voting.

i ain't mad at u? or policy u. I scumread u.

also what is a "fae"

Fair. Your vote looked like OOG rage/policy.

eh my brain was in the bin, was half light hearted was half "wtf do i do then?"
but fair.

-------------------------------

wow that post went weird.

i'm not super motivated for this atm, too much of the "I think you're scum but i'll never vote you coz i love you" crap alongside the "i am gonna rage and be a jerk to you" crap. I'm fine volunteering to be on the chopping block as long as I get to pick the opponent - does that sound fair?

This isn't fair to me

Whats the purpose of this post anyway?

Battle mage loves u

[Firebringer]

are any of us okay

[Firebringer]

Nacho if ur scum i expect a better scum performance from u.

[Firebringer]

This game needs more than like 3 people to keep it alive

[Firebringer]

Im like ten people in one. What more can you ask for?

peoples alignments i dont already have a read on.

[Firebringer]

poking is too aggressive i prefer to whisper gently in their ears "are you scum"

[Firebringer]

poking is too aggressive i prefer to whisper gently in their ears "are you scum"

I'm town. I hope this helps you on your journey!

You have completed your quest brave knight.

[Firebringer]

i would like to fight nacho. It is destiny for me to beat him in the ring.

[Firebringer]

what if mastina is one of the evil people.
a cell junior in disguise as krillin

[Firebringer]

kookie and flea voting together again. how interesting.

not really

[Firebringer]

what if mastina is one of the evil people.
a cell junior in disguise as krillin

Already scum reading them for the dumbest reason imaginable.
Because their posts look different and they seem to be reading people for slightly different reasons than I'm used to seeing them read people with.

my measure for reading mastina is very shallow.
but it usually is very very effective.

1) is mastina annoying me/getting very much so on my nerves.
If Yes. Town
If No. Scum.

So far i feel nothing. I think thats just cause im not engaging with her much.

[Firebringer]

BM knows me inside out but doesn't know I buddy up to nora in every single game we've played together regardless of alignment, except death curse.

yeah ok.

BM also claims I've blind tunnelled them all game... pretty sure I went and prodded other people quite a bit, especially oil.

BM is very townie

[Firebringer]

BM knows me inside out but doesn't know I buddy up to nora in every single game we've played together regardless of alignment, except death curse.

yeah ok.

BM also claims I've blind tunnelled them all game... pretty sure I went and prodded other people quite a bit, especially oil.

BM is very townie

BM is full of BS.

Full of town bullshit.

[Firebringer]

town doesn't misrep, town doesn't offer themselves as sacrifice when they're not even up for consideration, town doesn't OMGUS case an RVS vote.

have u ever met a town player?

[Firebringer]

Is this how shitposting works?

Close enough <3

[Firebringer]

This fight so looks like a personality conflict. Not an alignment conflict

[Firebringer]

battlemage stop being rude.
flea stop i don't know. dancing.
ur avatar looks like it is dancing and i can't stand for it any longer.

[Firebringer]

it seems like every BM towngame has someone irrationally tunnel him

yeah i wonder how this goes in rl with battle mage

[Firebringer]

so, err, what do you want? other than to bait me?

if i wanted to fight u, i would be fighting u.
but im not. So tone down rhetoric against flea. Call them scum and lets move on.

[Firebringer]

so, err, what do you want? other than to bait me?

if i wanted to fight u, i would be fighting u.
but im not. So tone down rhetoric against flea. Call them scum and lets move on.

i think you need to re-read the substance of what's been said. My posts were not singularly focussed on them being scum - which was precisely my point.

From my perspective, Flea has been rude to me consistently in this game. And there's nothing worse than somebody weighing in to antagonise things further when they really needn't be involved. You've done it twice now I believe - to put it nicely, it's unhelpful.

I am very antagonistic.

I think flea has been focusing on what you been saying. I disagree with flea says. But i don't think flea is really targetting ur person. I think ur taking it personally much more than Flea. I could go the whole "ohh both sides have points" thing. But i think u can do better and I don't think me talking to my scumread about mending fences will improve game state since i think Flea has an objective of creating conflict not seeing to it that conflict is not present.

In other words. Don't give your opponents ammo by fighting dirty. Stick to the arguments to win.

[Firebringer]

Flea has gotten into 3 arguments with people in this game. I think most town would go "ummm what am i doing that is causing me to get into these many conflicts" and then try to steer away as much as possible from that. But theres little disengagements. I don't think its townie.

[Firebringer]

Flea has gotten into 3 arguments with people in this game. I think most town would go "ummm what am i doing that is causing me to get into these many conflicts" and then try to steer away as much as possible from that. But theres little disengagements. I don't think its townie.

Do you remember noob Titus?

Titus u have always been my senpai.

[Firebringer]

Flea has gotten into 3 arguments with people in this game. I think most town would go "ummm what am i doing that is causing me to get into these many conflicts" and then try to steer away as much as possible from that. But theres little disengagements. I don't think its townie.

Do you remember noob Titus?

Titus u have always been my senpai.

[Firebringer]

Flea has gotten into 3 arguments with people in this game. I think most town would go "ummm what am i doing that is causing me to get into these many conflicts" and then try to steer away as much as possible from that. But theres little disengagements. I don't think its townie.

Do you remember noob Titus?

Titus u have always been my senpai.

Noob Titus would pick a fight with anyone who disagreed with her reads.

I'm not reading that Flea wall.

So u see Flea as u. Okay

[Firebringer]

bell is lookin so townie here

still happy with kookie in the townbloc, although if Flea flips scum I'll re-evaluate.

you've been shading me for a solid few pages now. wtf do u mean????

-norbearbear

the worst part is, ur too short to be proper shade.

ZING!

[Firebringer]

superbowl vacation mode is prettty funny

[Firebringer]

superbowl vacation mode is prettty funny

Mastina imagine im on a beach sipping a pina colada

ive literally been imagining that this whole time

[Firebringer]

I do agree for what it's worth, Flea v BM does seem TvT.

I don't think its TvT! I think Flea goal with each fight is to make it look like they are in a TvT!

[Firebringer]

Oil Dunn Superbowl9 Gamma...who is with me?

Why gamma?

[Firebringer]

Or Dunnstral
I would ask about superbowl but i think i get why

[Firebringer]

Sitting on the sidelines

Feels like alot are doing that Titus

[Firebringer]

I also have weak to moderate TRs on everyone else

Really? I only have 2 townreads.

I must be getting slow in my age.

[Firebringer]

I also have weak to moderate TRs on everyone else

Really? I only have 2 townreads.

I must be getting slow in my age.

I'm scared to ask how many SL+ reads you got o.o

One and its u

@Titus I think Bell is also. Momarangal is. Nero cain is when it doesn't concern him.

Me to a certain degree.

[Firebringer]

Maybe mastina is sitting on sidelines too?
maybe i have to define what sitting on sidelines means. I am probably being too broad.

[Firebringer]

commenting from the bleachers is still sitting on the sidelines imo

[Firebringer]

and you're worried about people sitting on the sidelines....

no? I am saying most people are on the sidelines.

[Firebringer]

and you're worried about people sitting on the sidelines....

no? I am saying most people are on the sidelines.

Including you.

Come on, jump in! You're set on me being scum, who are my buddies? Prod and poke things!

i don't know. u could tell me who ur buddies are. might save us all time.

[Firebringer]

I am however sitting on a fence in the middle of highway traffic, which I don't actually think I'd do as scum here.
Rather, I'm making myself pretty available when my instinct would usually be to lurk, be passive asf and then die for playing like shit as scum.

i am not paranoid of u yet. But u do seem hyper self aware. Which is weird.

[Firebringer]

I don't have any that I know, i gotta find them!
Cmon, get over here, help me find my buddies.

ugh. This is like me trying to help someone find their lost keys. HOW WOULD I HELP U IF UR OT TELLING ME WHERE U LAST SAW THEM!

[Firebringer]

I don't have any that I know, i gotta find them!
Cmon, get over here, help me find my buddies.

ugh. This is like me trying to help someone find their lost keys. HOW WOULD I HELP U IF UR OT TELLING ME WHERE U LAST SAW THEM!

Hey last time I saw them they were in my hand!

did u check ur other hand?

[Firebringer]

commenting from the bleachers is still sitting on the sidelines imo

For what it's worth:
I

want

to come in, hard-defend BM, Flea, and even Oil, try to dismantle the wagons/pressure on them and hard-push superbowl and maybe Gamma as the elimination candidates right now.

But right now I can't manage it, so yes, I am explicitly sitting on the sidelines. I normally have an unabashed lack of fear, a confidence oozing conviction which masks any uncertainty--but right now, the uncertainty is on full display and I hate it. I just, for whatever reason...can't get the confidence going. While there is some fear of being wrong contributing to that lack of strong push...there's also something holding me back beyond fear and I genuinely don't know what. Fear isn't the cause, it's just the icing on top of the cake of my insecurities being on display.

Hilariously enough.

I feel like, in a sense. I am actually basically doing a perfect roleplay of my character, whose debilitating lack of confidence was one of their largest issues throughout the entire story of dbz honestly. To put it in perspective, normally in mafia games I'd very much be a Goku kind of girl--fearless, confident in my abilities, absolutely sure that I can win, etc. But right now I have the timidness of my character and it fucking sucks. I like being Gokuesque, I hate it when I'm this weak.

My

hope

is that, come D2, if I am still alive, that the fire will be lit in me, that I'll ignite, that I'll power up and have my full potential unlocked and unleashed. (Also appropriate for my character, mind you.) Because for D1, I don't know how to solve it. I'm too passive and I don't know why, and without knowing why I don't know how to fix it.

pls stay on the sidelines

[Firebringer]

i will tag u in when it is time mastina.

[Firebringer]

I am however sitting on a fence in the middle of highway traffic, which I don't actually think I'd do as scum here.
Rather, I'm making myself pretty available when my instinct would usually be to lurk, be passive asf and then die for playing like shit as scum.

i am not paranoid of u yet. But u do seem hyper self aware. Which is weird.

This is my normal state. I am always self-aware and usually have to stop myself from creating paradoxes.

Twice I have started writing about the fact that I checked to see how many scum are in this game only to find out that there isn't a clear number (prolly 2-4) and that Unwnd didn't rule out third party roles.
I also know that people get extremely pinged when someone starts bringing up 3-P because scum are or tend to be more focused on it and I've had to stop myself from making such posts before as scum because it actually seems to be a temptation to share and speculate about 3p as scum more often than town do it.

So I didn't write about it because why include it and create unnecessary confusion, get myself sucm read for mentioning it, and pretty much have no evidene that it's the case.
But you see, I just wrote it but would I write it out and submit it if I were scum because it would draw suspicion and ping people likely if I submitted this post?

And that's hyper-self-aware-town-Bell.
I'm also hyper-self-aware as scum, but because I try to get town read as town I'm usually just pretty self-aware overall.

I probably wouldn't send this if I were scum. But I'm just feeding you context.
Also, please don't discuss 3P until there's like, a reason to.
Which I have no idea when if ever there's a good time for that because I'm a noob.

u seem like u would be fun to do mushrooms with

[Firebringer]

(note: Don't take prescription meds unless prescribed, there's a reason these have this effect!)

DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO FAE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Firebringer]

maybe i should take a leadership role to get this game into high gear and get some more people off the sidelines.

idk. Vote 1 for yes firebringer be leader Vote or no you smell and ur bad leader

[Firebringer]

maybe i should take a leadership role to get this game into high gear and get some more people off the sidelines.

idk. Vote 1 for yes firebringer be leader Vote or no you smell and ur bad leader

Vote 2 for no.
idk why it cut out there

[Firebringer]

Is guilotina scum?
ive liked almost everything guilo posted. But i think i like them for not alignment reasons.

Is there a reason to vote them

[Firebringer]

Looks like no one wants the peoples champ to lead this town.

[Firebringer]

This thought process is kind of crazy.

How so? Young Firebringer has done it.

[Firebringer]

Gamma Firebringer, final offer

-j

How could anyone say no

[Firebringer]

Gamma Firebringer, final offer

-j

Not sure what this means.

I think he means for us to fight in the ring.
But its hard to tell what chilli boi means sometimes.

[Firebringer]

Beating gamma in one on one fight would be too easy it would be criminal of me to do so. But im cool with breaking laws. And murder. I am secretly scum here.

[Firebringer]

Oil. The little amount of alone time ive gotten with Nacho head is appalling. Please rectify this or just admit you are scum.

[Firebringer]

Gamma Firebringer, final offer

-j

no.

-nornor :3

You just don't like giving me what i want.

[Firebringer]

Gamma Firebringer, final offer

-j

no.

-nornor :3

You just don't like giving me what i want.

yeah basically.

-bearbear

I am stealing your snow cone.

[Firebringer]

Oil. The little amount of alone time ive gotten with Nacho head is appalling. Please rectify this or just admit you are scum.

We are scum.

I am hurt you would lie to me instead of spend time with me

[Firebringer]

It's sad how badly I want to send Fire into the arena every day phase, but never actually eliminate FB. winning the tournament single handedly is my canon ending.

I approve of this post.

I am ready to give this audience a show!!!!

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Firebringer

IT ISNT A TRUE SHOW UNTIL WE SEE THE ALMIGHTY MOST TOUGHEST THE STRONGEST MAN ON THIS PLANET

[Firebringer]

how do i convince u i am a worthy candidate to get in?

[Firebringer]

me right now:

[Firebringer]

yeaah if anything from discord is to go off of, he is going through some things in his personal life

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Firebringer

IT ISNT A TRUE SHOW UNTIL WE SEE THE ALMIGHTY MOST TOUGHEST THE STRONGEST MAN ON THIS PLANET

No. I want to actually maybe lim scum today.

since when did u townread me

[Firebringer]

1639 is extremely shady given gamma has expressed a scumread on me earlier and has zero signs of changing that opinion in his iso.

[Firebringer]

I mean if Firebringer actually had a role where he got benefit from being in the arena and winning the duel (which is a role I can see in the game), I feel like he'd just outright have said so, since the town would be willing to play along and believe him.

Yeah, I don't have a role that gives me any buffs for winning a duel.

[Firebringer]

Firebringer's entertaining, but I don't know how to read him. He looks town, but I have no clue if he is or not.

i feel like the first part of this sentence should spook me.

[Firebringer]

I’m not sure on you atp
I need to read before I can say who I want in the ring with me

What has changed between scumreading me to not being sure now. This wasn't that long ago u tried to get me into the ring.

[Firebringer]

Oil Tycoons i feel insulted by ur signature. Why do u think fire is bad for business.

[Firebringer]

Could also get behind chucking Battle Mage in the ring, tbh.

This is terrible. You should know battle mage is town

[Firebringer]

nora didn't even notice i ate her snow cone

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Guillotina

THis person agrees too much mastina, and agreed alot with my early postings. That makes them doubly suspicious. This is my ace in the hole scum case.

[Firebringer]

with 13 alive it takes 7 to nominate. Nomination Phase 2 ends in (expired on 2021-01-11 22:25:25).

Combatants

Dunnstral (2): Titus, Oil Tycoons
mastina (1): Bell
Battle Mage (1): Flea The Magician
Oil Tycoons (0):
Bell (0):
Superbowl9 (1): mastina
Firebringer (2): Firebringer, Sugar Cain
kookiemonster (0):
Titus (0):
Flea The Magician (0):
Sugar Cain (0):
Guillotina (1): Firebringer

Not Voting (0):


Superbowl is V/LA from January 5th to January 10th.

Spoiler: Nominated

1. Gamma Emerald

I can vote multiple people?

-You cannot, this has been changed.

[Firebringer]

I can vote multiple people?

Why is no one pointing this out? Like y'all say me saying I had two votes was scummy(which was stupid as fuck btw). Where are you now?

-bearbear

Did this happen?

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Guillotina

THis person agrees too much mastina, and agreed alot with my early postings. That makes them doubly suspicious. This is my ace in the hole scum case.

VOTE: Firebringer

Elaborate because your post is too vague and I can't understand why agreeing with people's points is suspicious.

buddying/mind melding with both of us is just weird imo. in the same game is weirder.

[Firebringer]

Oil my reads are the best.

[Firebringer]

I'm ignoring you from this point forward and I don't give a crap if you vote me for the rest of the game. Your tunnel is not fun and I play to have fun! Adios!

that escalated quickly? I tried looking through ur iso to see if this was a build up overtime but idek. I see u kind of being annoyed earlier.

U know this is weird.
I don't read us as a player with high neuroticism. But you are acting with high neruoticism.

[Firebringer]

How is it weird that I happen to mind meld with Mastina, and where have I mindmelded with you, if I have I've forgotten. And no, I'm buddying up anyone.

ohh me and mastina are mortal enemies.

sometimes i assume people know this.

also ur voting something i want btw. I want to be in the arena.

[Firebringer]

Noraa has made a case for both of them being scum.

I actually can see it as being shade or trying to push at them for humility. It wasn't the intended the effect, or rather the effect was to see how they'd respond to it so I could try to understand them, but from a presentation perspective where others are watching the accusation is not unfair.

It is in the context it was you who said it. I don't think I've seen you say a mean word to anyone since I've been back. But at any rate.

Guillo bothers me. I like his confidence, but am I giving him town points for personality? I think what bothers me about Guillo is he spends so much time arguing with people about why he isn't scum as opposed to ignoring them like several (including myself) have suggested and just figuring out the game.

Guillo, could you give a readslist? I'd just like a grouped together list of who you think is where. Doesn't need reasons.

its very similar to mastinas i believe.

[Firebringer]

Mastina hinted something about that here but no, I don't know what's going on between you too.

So you are saying that you wanted a reactionary vote just to go to the arena?

no, i am saying if ur votes purpose was to put pressure back on me for my "suspicious vote of u" i don't feel any pressure because i want to be in arena.

i didn't vote u for pure reactionary reasons. I think u and mastina are a bit weird. I am starting to think i got nothing of substance. Tooo bad.

[Firebringer]

Uhm... I personally don't know how i feel about this... #EmotionallyUnstable

ohh u definitely are on the high neuroticism.

i could tell that within ur first five posts.

[Firebringer]

Guillo u answer for me how accurate u think this assessment of ur iso.
WHen i read ur iso u tend to be commenting on current thoughts happening that exists, u usually tend to agree with what thoughts people expressing and adding on ur 5 cents.
I don't see extreme divergents to where i would call it independent thoughts or maybe call it controversial takes.

do u agree with this assessment and what would u call it if not buddying?

[Firebringer]

Yeah it's called having a messed up brain... not sure how I feel about it being used in an attempt to potentially devalue or criticise someones play..

Its part of the big five personality trait model.

[Firebringer]

Flea, could you tell me what you were thinking on page one when Dunnstral swarmed FB? When you made your post in response to it?

Before I do, what make you think I thought it was a hammer?

The post in which you responded to it, by saying "wat, seriously, wat"

I'm aware what post you mean, what made you think I thought it was a hammer?

This is useless questioning.

[Firebringer]

i doubt it.

[Firebringer]

Doubt all you like, interactions are interactions.

Look up the butterfly effect.

ur right. im gonna start telling people who say my shit posts are worthless the butterfly effect

[Firebringer]

i don't think u do, nor do i think u want to touch the hornets nest that is that.

if u got problems with me we can do it openly.

[Firebringer]

Guillo u answer for me how accurate u think this assessment of ur iso.
WHen i read ur iso u tend to be commenting on current thoughts happening that exists, u usually tend to agree with what thoughts people expressing and adding on ur 5 cents.
I don't see extreme divergents to where i would call it independent thoughts or maybe call it controversial takes.

do u agree with this assessment and what would u call it if not buddying?

Ok. In this game when I comeback from work. I read the last page first then I go back to the last page I left off and read from there. I comment on the go on things that catch my attention, whether it is to oppose resistance or to support it, all of this while I'm keeping privates notes with references about how it felt. "Such post was weird" "such post mindmelds", "such post is fluff", "such post in scummy" etc. I think to "agree with posts and add my 5 cents" is an oversimplification but yah, I'm sometimes guilty of that, but when i disagree I contest it too and I'm vocal about it. I've been less vocal here cause I've been working a lot and I'm exhausted so I got less energy to fight, so to speak.

I think you and I have different definitions of what buddying and pocketing is.

Pocketing someone to me is agreeing with people's posts regardless of logic just to gain the favor from the target.

Buddying up to someone is a player that fakes synergy with a team mate in the thread.

I'm not doing either. If I reach a point where I'm agreeing with someone is because I've done my own due process and reach it there on my own. You get me?

I hope this clear things up for you.

yes this clears up alot of things. U want to argue about any reads?

As you wish.

We don't appreciate being referred to as neurotic, if you wish to refer to our condition then use Autism, ADHD, Emotionally Unstable/Borderline Personality Disorders and Other Specific Dissociative Disorders.

That you appear to be using this as a baseline of which posts you value and how to interact with certain posters feels disgusting to us and quite frankly your energies, interactions and intentions are rapidly becoming abhorrent to us leading the protectors within the system to go on alert which is quite draining for all involved.

-The Faewylds System

i made a comment on how i thought persons personality fit a model in which i was using to understand baseline player behavior/personality; I was not using it to devalue other opinions or criticize anyone.

i am not referring to any condition. And I wouldn't refer to someones condition as a basis for devaluing opinions. Also i think calling someone emotionally unstable is much more offensive.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Flea

back to my OG scumread.

[Firebringer]

i am again not policying u. My scumread of u never vanished.
previous case i made still stands.

[Firebringer]

i stopped voting u because i wasn't convincing anyone of u scum. But i am fine parking my vote here till i can either get someone on board or find a scum i can convince others to vote for.

and also like guillotina u are voting someone who wants to enter the arena.

[Firebringer]

Then you may enter the arena with my blessing. You will not be protected by us, but hurt by us.

Thanks, don't need ur protection. I am the greatest fighter this planet has ever seen.

[Firebringer]

In which reality do you reside that us openly attacking and tunneling people to appear town actually works?

i find the idea that this never works to be weird. I have seen multiple scum players use this strategy. I have done so myself. 1v1 a player get everyone to call it a TvT and then coast on that cred forever.

Could you be town that just gets into fights with town over nothing burgers because personality? Sure. I don't think so. I think its deliberate. If it wasn't deliberate I wouldn't sense a controlled way about the way you engage in the fight. Its not in what i would call a natural fight.

[Firebringer]

It does appear that you are intending to use your willingness to enter the arena as an attempt to deflect votes upon you.

how does me explain my willingness to enter mean to deflect a vote on me.

if anything im trying to draw ur attention that u are pushing against is pushing into my own agenda of wanting to be in the arena, and you aren't thinking of that. Which tells me shallow thinking.

Keep voting me. Remember when I said "i don't gain anything by winning the arena?" keywords exist in there

[Firebringer]

Never unvote me.

[Firebringer]

I will give u credit here. This is a very townie response.

[Firebringer]

Never unvote me.

I don't know if this is some high reverse psychology level or you really wanna go to the arena.

Why do you wanna go to the arena?

Its reverse psychology.

[Firebringer]

For the people still talking about my swarm post, for which I already said I was messing with firebringer: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10788770

lol dunny.

I thought u were referencing something but i was like "idk what that is from". So u referenced Enter swarm posts which i had no involvement in and yelled at Enter for lol.

(I actually approved of him doing so but lets not get into the weeds)

[Firebringer]

Right now I'm thinking Bell, Flea, Fire town

I find u townreading me to be weird and unusual

[Firebringer]

Battle mage. Be nicer.

[Firebringer]

I have requested moderator intervention. I will no longer post in this thread until rectified.

I am gonna be real with you here. I do not think you should be playing mafia if this is your mindset.
If you are so insulted that you cannot play, then you should probably leave. I am not telling you to do so, but just saying.

demanding moderator intervention is probably not the way to go.

[Firebringer]

right now the only person i understand where they are coming from regaarding voting mastina is superbowl. what is everyone else doing

[Firebringer]

why are people voting mastina

[Firebringer]

i think year end is disabling my ability to communicate properly

[Firebringer]

Naturally, the coolest character in the series, Tien, dies first.

RIP.

Krillin would like a word

krillin sux

[Firebringer]

Just smokes and mirrors. Thats all it is. Just tricks.

Nothing to see here, they just used a trap door and replaced that guys body with a ketchup and paper machete. All parlor tricks, anyone see it.

[Firebringer]

Spoiler: Flea

I'm sorry, does my request for basic human decency upset you? Would you rather I raise the point beyond the limits of the game? The act of personally attacking me based on my request my pronouns be respected is an act of transphobia, and not only goes against game rules but against site rules.

Where I as an LGBTQ person is disrespected on those grounds I will strike back using the means available to me. I don't forgive intentional attacks without witnessing the person making amends beyond an apology. Forgiveness will come in time, I'm sure.

I am not offended. Nor do I think your request for human decency is at all unreasonable. I just don't think your method is appropriate and might indicate that mafia is not a good place for you for your own mental health. But you do you.

[Firebringer]

Gonna miss Titus.

[Firebringer]

Dunnstral is scummy for townreading me

[Firebringer]

why are people voting mastina

It should really send fucking red flags to y'all just how atrociously bad the mastina wagon is when

Firebringer

, of all people, FIREBRINGER, the dude who would love any excuse to get me out of the game, is the one asking why there's a wagon on me.

This means im town yo

[Firebringer]

Okay flea, i don't know if this side conversation serves a purpose for us. Maybe we should end it there.

[Firebringer]

I did not notice any bread crumbing.

u must have never played with mastina

[Firebringer]

I did not notice any bread crumbing.

u must have never played with mastina

I didnt notice any either and I've played with her before :O

-tsutsu

u know i don't look for them or ever see them till she points them out. But i just always assume she does. I didn't notice them in this game.

[Firebringer]

Just smokes and mirrors. Thats all it is. Just tricks.

Nothing to see here, they just used a trap door and replaced that guys body with a ketchup and paper machete. All parlor tricks, anyone see it.

[Firebringer]

i think its poor design to have a desperado where it confirms the player then it allows scum to just kill the player...

[Firebringer]

like immediately. If it was "confirmed mastina" and we got to elim that would be different. the way this was designed was pretty bad.

[Firebringer]

Mafia weren't afraid of a doctor, and a doctor didn't target mastina

Also their role is backup, but backup for what.

backup to any role? Probably became a desperado.

[Firebringer]

I guess I just think flea's scum lol. It's more tonal but bm was def the aggressor and flea was the diffuser. It's subtle but sometimes people can also attack to diffuse

Congratulations you missed the point entirely.
Is that the entirety of your point against me?

I like your theory on a Mr Satan bell but you have to remember that this is firebringer, I was also just saying DBZ shit with him at the start that titus took as a flavor soft. Pretty sure fire would do something similar

Yes, it is I, Firebringer. The greatest martial artist in the world. You know it from these amazing posts that it is I, and if Cell thinks he can just kill a little kid on my watch. He has another thing coming!!! Bahahhahahah

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Flea

[Firebringer]

Yooooo my boy was born today. (Technically yesterday) so I'll be spotty. That said I'm in support of all the same shit I said yesterday. I was already townreading mastina and taking her reads into consideration. I think the kill was entirely because she was IC, not necessarily because of the veracity of her reads

Congratulations.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: superbowl9

or is it Guillo + Dunn? Hmm, need to give this some thought

for now, let's go with Bell's flavour argument - love a flavour solve in a theme game.

VOTE: firebringer

Battle Mage don't lose sight of the Flea scum.

[Firebringer]

"Well, if I were fightin' that twerp Cell, I'd bend him into a pretzel and eat him for lunch...but lucky for him, I'm on a strict diet."


--


You all feel very fixated on these words, but do not know where they come from. All actives have been temporarily disabled for tonight!

For the record as if i have to make it clear. I didn't do this.

[Firebringer]

Also, wtf are there specs on whether titus's role is town or scum? Titus is dead.

Titus' role isn't what disabled actions for the night... is it? I don't think she ever claimed it

No i am pretty sure it was someone else.

Btw dunny we need to have a talk on why u townread me

[Firebringer]

it is very likely that the person who nullified all actions could display a message to town and is using that to frame me. it is also likely that the person is scum given the fact it stops doc actions.

So now that we know both those things. Who would want to frame poor old innocent firebringer? Probably Flea me thinks.

[Firebringer]

kookie monster is just not scum.

Nice attempt there.

Good analysis incorrect conclusions. I willl townread u.

[Firebringer]

kookie monster is just not scum.

Nice attempt there.

Good analysis incorrect conclusions. I willl townread u.

Well, then that likely makes you scum then, no?

I think I'm going to trust my read over yours here for now.

As the official scum ambassador, I think u should trust me when i tell u that kookie is not scum. Thank you for ur time.

[Firebringer]

As the official scum ambassador

This is exactly why I would believe you in that sense, and could see you doing this exact line of push as scum with townKookie.

Yes, I am white knighting for kookie. Got to get that town cred somehow.

Your read on Flea is bad and we are laughing at u in the PT.