DBZ: Cell Games [Over]

[Flea The Magician]

*adopts battle stance*

HUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVOTE: BATTLEMAGEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Tune in next week for our dramatic conclusion!

[Flea The Magician]

Awesome.

I think this game is fascinating (great game unwnd!) so I apologize to Fire for taking you out so fast, but never in my mafia career will I miss a chance to do this:

VOTE: Firebringer

swarm:Firebringer

swarm:Firebringer

(using "Talented" perk)

And that's one challenge target for today, as far as I'm aware.

For the next one I'm thinking we get Oil Tycoons, mostly because they voted for me. It might be interesting to put one of superbowl or Battle Mage though.

*boops*

Wat.

Seriously wat.

[Flea The Magician]

Always <3

[Flea The Magician]

is firebringer scum too, or are you just buddying him?

Whats wrong with a good buddying

*slides up to BM and boops*

What are you seeing that I don't

power up with me, ready?


HUAWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

[Flea The Magician]

its 3am, this is a shitpost. Kinda (/^▽^)/ Been a weird day.

Wonder why I'm a scum read :3

Nornor we can dance later if you like <3 I heard the FUSION dance is pretty cool, would have to be post game though.

Guillotina I'm sure I remember you proclaiming you don't do meta...

[Flea The Magician]

is firebringer scum too, or are you just buddying him?

Whats wrong with a good buddying

*slides up to BM and boops*

What are you seeing that I don't

power up with me, ready?


HUAWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

Good god.

No I'm good fae, not a god ^_^

[Flea The Magician]

*fires a ki blast at BM*

Noraa's cool damnit.

And noted. (・ん・)

[Flea The Magician]

OK it's not 3am now, I have meds and am.... well I'm not going to say awake but I have some form of cognitive function

flea you're scumread because you tried to derail/take momentum away from the FB wagon. makes more sense as scum than town - as scum you could be trying to take the heat off a buddy or trying to pocket FB. As town, I figure you probably just go with the top wagon like others did.

im fine with guillo's approach

pedit: never buddy noraa

Yeah ok, RVS was RVS and your read stinks more than the back end of Majin Buu.

They sound like they're exasperated with how much they rolled scum and that they didn't roll scum here.

In other words, it has the *ring* of truth. Which I'm not disinclined to ignore. You can push them I guess, but to me you missed the context or the tone of the post in exchange for a more or less, less detailed analysis of her post. What you seem to see as a slip up, isn't.

:O I am feeling some life inside of this bell which should mean he is town. When he scum, he sound dead as hell

-nornornornornor

this... is accurate. there's time yet though.

*Yeets Bell out of the arena*

(ง ͠ ͠° ل͜ °)ง

Nornor we can dance later if you like <3 I heard the FUSION dance is pretty cool, would have to be post game though.

Don't wanna wait >:(

-nornorthedancingbear

You're already fused though..
c'mon lets power up together, I don't think I'm even Kaioken yet.

\\\\\٩(•́⌄•́๑)و//////
HWUAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH!

Mine looks like this:
Town: Noraa, Johnny, Bell
Null town lean: BM
Big evil potatos: everyone else
-nornorthesmolbear

Sads I thought you could soul read me! AND NOW YOU'RE CALLING ME A POTAT!?

I have BM, Bell, Guillotina, and kookiemonster as town rn
VOTE: Dunnstral
I wanna push this for that FB vote on the first page, what was up with the fake multi-vote crap?

Careful, BM will scum read you and give an entirely different reason (ಡ艸ಡ)

Hi Bell, BM, Nora, the whole playerlist...

HIIIIII!
c'mon join the powering up of our Ki!
\\\\\\\٩(•́⌄•́๑)و////////

superbowl not even gonna question why i am voting my townread still. Interesting.

This amuses me. Why draw attention to it?

superbowl not even gonna question why i am voting my townread still. Interesting.

I'm not actually reading this, I have business to take care of a bookmark down

How dare you ignore the peoples champion

What was that? You're looking more like John Cena right now

I mean, I guess it's legit you don't know the might of Mark Hercule Satan...

Its time to get real,

I am going to take you all down in that ring. There aint gonna be a need for a second round, I can beat you all with one hand tied behind my back at the same time! You fools don't know the first thing about the martial arts.

points at Dunnstral

Hey you, punk. Think you are tough enough to take on the peoples champion?!?! Or you going to cower and go home to mommy instead of me wiping the floor of this arena with your butt.

gestures at superbowl9

I bet this guy thinks he is hot stuff. But he has never had to face a real challenger like me! I can lift a hundred scrawny hims with one finger.

looks at Bell

and who invited this clown to this tournament? I thought this was a martial arts tournament, not a weakest human show. Can you even throw a punch pal?

This is gonna be a short tournament and I hope you all don't blink cause you might just miss the whole thing.

VOTE: Battle Mage

Oh wonderful excellent wow it's Firebringer I can't wait for him to post something directed towards me!!!

Oh he's talking to Superbowl first? Okay that's fine I'm sure he'll mention NACHO soon because Nacho is just do amazing and heartwarming.

Oh now he's talking about Bell? Haha hahaha he must be saving the best for last? Or something like that???

*cue crushing disappointment*

I'd offer a hug, but I strongly suspect Nora would whup me like Frieza whupped Namek if I didn't hug her first.

let's mix it up

VOTE: sugar cain

But fire wagon? Like you didn't like me "derailing" on page 1? when it was RVS?
am confused (●´ω｀●)ゞ

anime is dumb

Manga ftw.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: BM

My RVS Breaker

BM doesn't know naff all about me to be making these kinda calls But hey my meta's all on my wiki if you wanna take that approach.

My god if it's that easy though. It's practically a flea trust tell. XD

Honestly, Im just scum by default at this point. Nobody likes me ლ(｡-﹏-｡ ლ)

[Flea The Magician]

*snerks*

You obviously don't know how I roll

But sure, PEOPLE OF MAFIASCUM, GIVE ME YOUR ENERGIES, YOUR LOVE, YOUR HATE, YOUR BLIND ROBOTICISM THAT SOMEHOW I HAVE TO SHOW. GIVE ME YOUR PRAYERS!

\\ (>.< ) //
hwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


*tune in next week to find out what happens next!*

[Flea The Magician]

oh sorry, I meant Androids

[Flea The Magician]

What can I say, I'm just a manifestation of chaos. nornor hugs! (つ▀¯▀)つ

[Flea The Magician]

Oh I can definitely AtE as scum, Even Kid Buu would be swayed by my unbridled rage and fury.
I do genuinely hate it though.

That said, bm you're on me because of derailing a page 1 wagon during rvs where I hadn't even bothered looking at vote but rather who I could place the funniest vote on, looking back at the votes that would've been a page 1 E-2.
You're then moving to vote me in OMGUS-countervoting based on AtE I dropped which is clearly a joke

if

you'd actually read my games and knew how I rolled, you'd know I'm a reflexive style player. I don't go on the hunt unless I'm dry. I'm a reflexive hunter, just like you actually, and later on in the game I start throwing out my thought processes everyone mistakes as cases.

soooooooooooo you're scum here. You're a reflexive player currently on the hunt trying to look town

[Flea The Magician]

༼⌐■ل͜■༽

[Flea The Magician]

*munches on some Senzu Beans*
This could interesting.
Also as long as you don't make like 300 posts before page 20 I think we're good

[Flea The Magician]

Noraa is that actually a hydra or just an alt you share

[Flea The Magician]

Is... is that RVS? huh... thought most of us had moved on from that at this point.

*monches some choc with fae Baileys*
Sorry nornor, I'd offer but I dunno if you're able to drink legally.

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah the cain wagon is BS. Me no likey.

and trust me I've wiped out enough Cell Jr's.

I'm locked on my BM vote for the time being but I can get with BM vs SB.

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah the cain wagon is BS. Me no likey.

then vote SB.

that false bravado is scummy as fuck.

Alternatively, I can keep my vote where it is where I have more solid reasoning and have actually poked at holes.

I'm a magician! not a sheep! Ꮚ❛ꈊ❛Ꮚ

It's just a tradition that I'm scumread every D1 until I obvtown and become consensus D2

This is a mood. Minus the getting TR'd later lol. ┌(▀Ĺ̯▀)┐

Hi johnny I'll chat with you! I think Nero can be helpful as town if he's active, and easier to find as scum. Basically the earlier Nero is active the better for us so giving him an early push is positive

Dunno how effective "I'm voting you so you'll be more active" votes are, especially when stated so plainly like this. Ditto for TItus' mwnn vote

-Jayjay

About as effective as this... ○|￣|_ =3


Nornor please don't meta read people already It aways ends badly.

[Flea The Magician]

I mean you keep meta reading me badly and you seem to be throwing a few of them out <3

[Flea The Magician]

Proper feeling the love here

Last time I share my snacks with you

[Flea The Magician]

I mean you issued us a challenge, and we came to answer it.

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah the cain wagon is BS. Me no likey.

and trust me I've wiped out enough Cell Jr's.

I'm locked on my BM vote for the time being but I can get with BM vs SB.

I'm warm for a BM vote if firebringer shows me something good. He seems a hell of a lot more measured than what I'm used to from Battle town.

good observation - but im just playing this game differently. meta-wise it's NAI as I don't normally do this as town or scum.

Sooooo where I'm apparently using AtE to deflect suspicion and you're using my meta to (badly) read me... when we've got no completed games together too I might add.

You're changing up your meta to avoid meta reads being any use. (≖ლ≖๑ )ﾌ


Right, then we've got Noraa in this game who I honestly love playing with and I think has been in most of my games in some form, who has played with me often and who can't meta read me for the life of her - and lets face it she ain't a bad player. Nora's also town btw, waiting on more from the other head to make a decision on the slot as a whole.

[Flea The Magician]

Diggy diggy hole?

Spoiler: Diggy diggy hole

BM solid SR at this point, unlikely to change.

[Flea The Magician]

you using the "no-completed-games" thing as a crutch is super scummy to me, because you know I am familiar with your playstyle. I don't know why you would be so disingenuous as town, so I'm lockscumming you. If you're town, please show something more than lazy OMGUS.

i'm not changing my meta to stop people meta reading me. just fancied doing this game a bit differently.

ლ(ಠ_ಠლ)

[Flea The Magician]

Nora mah gurl where you at, I need your vote over here because this Saibaman doesn't even know what colour he's meant to be playing as.

[Flea The Magician]

Nora mah gurl where you at, I need your vote over here because this Saibaman doesn't even know what colour he's meant to be playing as.

[Flea The Magician]

yo Guillotina, join the Flea-party with me

Why flea?

I'll TLDR for you,

Because on Page 1 I derailed an RVS wagon and BM believes this is my scum meta, I'm using AtE to deflect suspicion on like page 2, and he's apparently the absolute and final authority on my playstyle

Also I've been frankly hilariously focused since his second post in the game

[Flea The Magician]

MEANWHILE
My case is based on BM would've gone for me anyway, an E-2 wagon on page 1 is never good and I'd not even realised at the time there was a wagon, so placed my RVS vote where I normally do, where I think it's funniest.
Then I've poked a hole in his AtE attack on me because it was frankly clearly a joke, now don't get me wrong my AtE game is bloody impressive, as much as I hate it. I'm not so newb as to panic AtE defence like BM seems to think.
BM than made a meta case on me which I countered with a similar meta case,
And now BM has called me out for OMGUS when my vote hasn't even moved all game xD

But hey, BM's the one and only authority on me sooo...

Sorry nornor, looks like you're out of a potential job </3 You've had much much more experience by far, however, we found a better candidate. We'll keep your information on record for 6 months and if we get a vacancy we'll let you know!

[Flea The Magician]

yo Guillotina, join the Flea-party with me

Why flea?

I'll TLDR for you,

Because on Page 1 I derailed an RVS wagon and BM believes this is my scum meta, I'm using AtE to deflect suspicion on like page 2, and he's apparently the absolute and final authority on my playstyle

Also I've been frankly hilariously focused since his second post in the game

i think this is the 2nd time you've tried to give a distorted account of what I'm suspicious of you, on my behalf. Is that because you're worried my actual reasons are compelling, and you want to promote misinformation? I'm not sure why else you'd feel the need. It's annoying anyway, cut it out.

To be clear, we've moved a long way past page 1. Your tunnel on me is not credible, it appears to be purely driven by OMGUS but you won't acknowledge that. Your AtE to convince people not to vote for you this early on Day 1 feels scummy. There are other reasons which I won't share at present.

If need be, I'll volunteer to 1v1 with you today.

Because that's what I'm feeling, and my interpretation of your stinky case on me that smells worse than Goku after an all-you-can-eat curry buffet. My tunnel on you is legitmate, I'm a reflexer and yeah I OMGUS. My playstyle and hunt style are reflexive, which you'd know as the authority on my play. My AtE is nowhere near as serious as you seem to think it is and ngl I think it's kinda cute

Can you give some credibility to my AtE defences then and show your working? :3

[Flea The Magician]

MEANWHILE
My case is based on BM would've gone for me anyway, an E-2 wagon on page 1 is never good and I'd not even realised at the time there was a wagon, so placed my RVS vote where I normally do, where I think it's funniest.
Then I've poked a hole in his AtE attack on me because it was frankly clearly a joke, now don't get me wrong my AtE game is bloody impressive, as much as I hate it. I'm not so newb as to panic AtE defence like BM seems to think.
BM than made a meta case on me which I countered with a similar meta case,
And now BM has called me out for OMGUS when my vote hasn't even moved all game xD

But hey, BM's the one and only authority on me sooo...

Sorry nornor, looks like you're out of a potential job </3 You've had much much more experience by far, however, we found a better candidate. We'll keep your information on record for 6 months and if we get a vacancy we'll let you know!

irrespective of your vote, your tunnel on me is entirely because I've called you out. I feel confident saying that, based on your emotional reaction to literally everything which has happened so far.

this is also the 3rd instance where you are trying to distort my actual reasons for voting for you. Are you really that scared of me speaking for myself?

let's just 1v1, I really couldn't give a crap

My dude, you need to learn to read me better

What you're dropping now is serious AtE and nothing more than a flail. Take the vote off yourself, you think Mr Satan would pull that crap?

I ain't even stopping you speaking. You didn't want to fill in your case so I gave a TLDR from my perspective.

My dude, the only person muting you, is yourself.

Kinda pathetic really... You remind me of Frieza.

[Flea The Magician]

I have BM, Bell, Guillotina, and kookiemonster as town rn
VOTE: Dunnstral
I wanna push this for that FB vote on the first page, what was up with the fake multi-vote crap?

Careful, BM will scum read you and give an entirely different reason (ಡ艸ಡ)

self-conscious and inward-looking. Flea only considered Gamma's post from the perspective of themselves. Compare to several others who commented on what he had said with a sorting, outward-looking mindset.

And yet I post nothing but fluff... huh.

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah I want to apologise for that.

That was a lot more dickish reading back than I intended so I do sincerely apologise for that.

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah I want to apologise for that.

That was a lot more dickish reading back than I intended so I do sincerely apologise for that.

[Flea The Magician]

anyone else find when people say "my dude" its really cringe

OK one of my goals achieved for this game :3

[Flea The Magician]

Firebringer shed some light on this will ya, from your outside perspective whats your considerations and conclusions on me vs bm?

[Flea The Magician]

I dont think flea is being aa dick

i dont care what you or others think, im not going to debate it. that's me asking nicely for things to be focussed on alignments and not personal baiting.

if i thought a rule had been breached, i'd have followed the rules and contacted the Mod.

ur little standoffish/aggro right now though. Think u could chill a bit

Their emotion is legitimate, that was a corker of a shot I put down. I mean he was heated prior to that anyway which was funny fmpov because of the whole AtE stuff but still.

[Flea The Magician]

I actually like this VOTE: Flea

What do you like about it?

[Flea The Magician]

Firebringer shed some light on this will ya, from your outside perspective whats your considerations and conclusions on me vs bm?

not getting anything out of it

Really? o.o

Not TvT, TvS, SvS or anything? o.o

[Flea The Magician]

OK gloves off, persona off, lets go raw.

Provide evidence of me using AtE to guilt people off voting for me.

My account of what your case is, is exactly that. My account. You haven't provided much else that I've seen and others have also commented as such.

My own behavior is my own behavior. While people see fluff and nonsense, I post my thoughts as I go. I'm here to have fun as well as socialise.

Yes, other players do have experience with me, and they're welcome to vote me and form opinions on my play style as they like. I will prod and poke back as appropriate. As far as today is concerned, you're my elimination of choice.

[Flea The Magician]

I actually like this VOTE: Flea

What do you like about it?

That you're getting pressured. I'm liking this push from the new BM

Fair doobie.

[Flea The Magician]

OK gloves off, persona off, lets go raw.

persona off?

Yeah, you know when people adopt a persona to do things? Flea is a charicature-esque exaggeration of me

Provide evidence of me using AtE to guilt people off voting for me.

I already have - are you actually denying you did this? You admitted it earlier, but claimed it was in jest (despite it proving effective).

I've not denied that what I've posted can be seen as AtE and yeah I can see how you see it as AtE.
What I deny is that I'm attempting to do it deflect attention, I joke about quite a bit because ya know, it's what I do.
Me not here for long time, me here for good time aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

My account of what your case is, is exactly that. My account. You haven't provided much else that I've seen and others have also commented as such.

I don't think you repeatedly trying to overlay my own viewpoint with your own interpretation of it is very sorting-friendly, or helpful. It comes across like you are bad-faithing me, and don't really care about determining if I am town or scum. I think 1 player has commented that they didn't understand the case on you, and that player admitted they were drunk and is also in the possible elim-pool for today. Other players have clearly seen the same thing I have. You are very defensive about it.

You're sorted, that's the thing. I'm showing my understanding of your case, and you're doing little to actually prove otherwise or give interaction beyond emotional responses. I'm defensive because that's how I roll. The majority of votes on me, as ever, are unexplained sheep votes being done for pressure.
Drunk posting is no excuse in my book, honestly. I post while stoned off my pain medications and I stand by the posts I make at the time and if I don't understand something I ask for clarifications.

Yes, other players do have experience with me, and they're welcome to vote me and form opinions on my play style as they like. I will prod and poke back as appropriate. As far as today is concerned, you're my elimination of choice.

Will you criticise and/or tunnel other players who scumread you, as you have done with me? or would a consistent approach attract too much unwanted attention?

If I have enough reason to, yes. If you know how I roll, as you claim, you know my tunnel on you will probably end in a day or two as I find a new target to prod and poke. Your reputation reached me before you did in that you're a reflexive scumhunter and will counter tunnel anyone who suspects you.

Ultimately, I get no sense from you that you've considered the alignment of any player in this game, including me. You haven't really commented on anyone else. If you're town, that's a problem. I'm baffled by your read on me, but regardless I don't think it's unreasonable for me to expect you to have reads on other players too. I've tried to encourage you to demonstrate you are town with a bit more than just the one-dimensional OMGUS - the opportunity to do so remains.

I'm reading posts, I'm interacting with people and I'm observing peoples interactions with things. What are you doing? Aside from a one-dimensional RVS OMGUS response and massive emotional responses?

[Flea The Magician]

Shame I aint a boy really ain't it

[Flea The Magician]

Sorry about that. You are a good fae.

<3

You're good If I start breaking out the hotpink then I'm gettin a lil miffed. lol

[Flea The Magician]

strange that you cite such great experience of my play

battle mage

- have we ever played together before that can be talked about? have you read any games of mine? what do you make of the conclusion of people who do have experience with me?

(Quote edited slightly for relevancy)

Spoiler: Original here

strange that you cite such great experience of my play nacho - have we ever played together before? have you read any games of mine? what do you make of the conclusion of people who do have experienced with me that I'm not playing to either town or scum meta?

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: How I feel BMs case on me looks like - The spoiler contains exaggeration and misrepresentation used to show how I am feeling.

What you're dropping now is serious AtE and nothing more than a flail. Take the vote off yourself, you think Mr Satan would pull that crap?

VOTE: flea

no point self-voting really, we get 2 votes

BM:

Oh noes! My AtE didn't work! Better try and do something else!

[Flea The Magician]

a) You ain't helping me with that possibility.
b) that's why I look for connections. There's a lovely little web building around you if you'd care to look
c) Yes I do, and I assume you would want to know it. Oil seems very sheepish at the moment but they're being open with their reads and methods. they sit at a pretty townleanish.

[Flea The Magician]

I don't think how Flea is responding to pressure is very townie.
If they are town, I am bad at mafia.

Le gasp! Phone post!

How would you expect me to respond here?
That I am aware of I have countered the points made against me, expressed my feelings on the matter and formed a decent case of my own returning the pressure which is going mostly uncountered.

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: How I feel BMs case on me looks like - The spoiler contains exaggeration and misrepresentation used to show how I am feeling.

What you're dropping now is serious AtE and nothing more than a flail. Take the vote off yourself, you think Mr Satan would pull that crap?

VOTE: flea

no point self-voting really, we get 2 votes

BM:

Oh noes! My AtE didn't work! Better try and do something else!

VOTE: Flea The Magician

Also you activated my trap card!

[Flea The Magician]

I mean... I did :3

[Flea The Magician]

Nvm, dunno why I thought you were voting BM. What makes you think flea and BM are town

Just the intensity, depth, and pointlessness of the wall fight. Tbh I skimmed that noise.

you skimmed yet you're calling TvT? uhh...*shrug* fair.

Spoiler: How I feel BMs case on me looks like - The spoiler contains exaggeration and misrepresentation used to show how I am feeling.

What you're dropping now is serious AtE and nothing more than a flail. Take the vote off yourself, you think Mr Satan would pull that crap?

VOTE: flea

no point self-voting really, we get 2 votes

BM:

Oh noes! My AtE didn't work! Better try and do something else!

VOTE: Flea The Magician

Also you activated my trap card!

OK now to spring it. Dunn whats the reason for your vote here? Why this post?

[Flea The Magician]

im still content with Flea-Oil today.

Oil looks worse. I can see a world where Flea is misguided tunnel-visioned but admirably enthusiastic town. I struggle a bit with the disingenuous stuff, but maybe we'll come back to that later. I can't give the OMGUS excuse for Oil's tunnel. I won't pick it to pieces...but yeah, for a hydra-slot, not good at all. I feel a bit for Syryana who never had much chance.

There is something quite beautiful about pitting 2 scummy players who don't scumread each other in a head-to-head-to-head battle. Suggest it will prove instructive for reads on both of them.

Guillotina is going in my townreads too, with Noraa and Bell.

Hey say the word and I'll do my thing^tm on someone. I have my TODO list ready, pick a name and lets see what happens

At least it'll get my attention away from you :twitsted:

[Flea The Magician]

Sorry what is BM trying to pry open, exactly?

Im a freaking open book.

Page 69, word 1: EW.

for example.

[Flea The Magician]

*boops the nornor*

So your lim pool for today is oil and me?

[Flea The Magician]

actually I'm dissociating pretty hard, amma vanish <3 have fun nornor

*hands over some proper english choccy, not the american sugar "chocolate"*

[Flea The Magician]

Norra can u tone down the energy level.

the old folks here can't keep up with you (myself)

As an old folk, boo hiss to you! Let the kids have their fun! °˖✧◝(⁰▿⁰)◜✧˖°

Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, I am a bit of a geeky nerd and am glad to be here. <3

Whoo! Was hoping to play with you more <3 When you can, give us your thoughts on whats happened so far in this saga o(^▽^)o

Tune in next week for our dramatic conclusion!

Town-but-I-admit-bias-to-loving-Flea's-personality-and-playstyle-in-saying-this-so-strongly. <3

OK wasn't expecting that so soon I'll take it!
Also I love when people say this <3 makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

*Offers Mastina a Mocha made by faer own fair hand*

because all your reads so far have been based off meta, so tell me why do you scum read me?

Because I use meta to augment the evidence in the thread. Meta is a tool, not the end all be all of scumhunting.

And your posts look like scum, even without meta;

superbowl's posts look like scum, especially given meta.

I disagree with your Bell and Gamma placements, see my read list to see why.

Oh I read your piece of shit readslist but I was at the time too polite to call it a piece of shit readslist, but if you insist on bringing it up...

*blinks, makes a caramel cortado and grabs the popcorn*

This gon' be guuuud.

I wasn't disappointed. Mastina can join me and nornor in the town picnic party. Happy giving Guillotina a conditional invitation, Oil has pinged me so amma do my thing.

[Flea The Magician]

*Hands Noraa some tea and biscuits to calm her*

(❁°͈▵°͈)

[Flea The Magician]

nora u just posted 20 times without anyone posting inbetween.

That is ridiculous. Chill the fuck out

...

*decides to feed nornor the EPIC LEVEL sugar+caffeine doom frapp fae had to make several times*

(Pretty sure that legally I wasn't allowed to serve it, there was a LOT of sugar and caffeine in there. Venti drink, 4 shots espresso, 5 pumps white mocha, half ice, half milk 5 pumps caramel and 5 pumps hazelnut - certainly kept you chugging through a night shift)

[Flea The Magician]

(UK laws are weird on this stuff btw, I know US cranks out much much worse)

[Flea The Magician]

I hate 3 people in this game right now. Lord give me the patience to deal with these three. This was supposed to be a fun game.

Honestly, that's a you problem, not an us problem.

[Flea The Magician]

Again, this is a you problem. Want to make something constructive out of it? otherwise you're just contributing to the spam

[Flea The Magician]

cause when someone says "sounds like a you problem" they aren't trying to alleviate or help resolve the underlying conflict. And I never said it wasn't my problem. You are just flagging in my face "well we aren't going to make any changes so you have to suffer through it".

Like okay. So i am not engaging with you.

You've pointed out a problem without providing information.
My options are:
- Overreact massively, allow my social paranoia to take over and become quiet and timid and ultimately detrimental.
- Dismiss it as I've been provided no information, keep going as I am.
- Point out that I've acknowledged your position, however, as you haven't provided any context or information, point out that I refuse to change anything based on zero information.

I can't alleviate the problem if I don't know what it is, I cant resolve a conflict I'm not aware of.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Firebringer

Two can play policy.
Fine nora has been dealt with, I encourage people to have fun. I encourage fun people to be themselves.

[Flea The Magician]

I shall see you in the ring. You are gonna need your A game if you want to even have sliver of a chance taking me on.

Oh please, whoever you are, I've taken on bigger, better and won. >:)

now it's finished, to note my view that Flea here feels exactly like Flea-scum in Among Us Mafia.

Also this was an interesting highlight from the scum PT there:

BM's scumhunting consists of townreading people who townread him and scum reading people who scum read him
So just be careful picking that fight

Eh, I'm in too deep at this point OMGUS is easy to deflect away when I do my thing

so yeah, I think this is Flea-scum. Flea-Oil still works for me.

OK Using this meta knowledge you have of me, on what planet do I vote you in RVS, confirm my vote and only move it because of returning a shitty policy vote?
Knowing I have that knowledge of you, which has proven correct btw - I tested it in Among Us - Why would I bother death tunnelling you when the ideal option is to allow a "natural town read" to develop?
You also haven't played with town me before now, so you have no idea what my meta is like when I'm live. I also haven't OMGUS'd you, where you have me. Everything from this has started as a result of my RVS vote on you

Because you're enjoying this game, plain and simple--you hate, you loathe, scum, especially having high-efforted in multiple consecutive scumgames (and losing them, to boot). But here, you're not hating the game even remotely. And that's not you masking your hate, that's not you pretending that you're having fun when you're actually not. You are radiating an aura of having fun, your happiness is on full display with you clearly having a blast in a way that I genuinely don't think you can fake. I saw the Noraa as scum trying to powertown. In that game you may have looked town but you didn't look like you were having fun, because you weren't due to being scum. But here, you ARE having fun.

:O I CANT MISS OUT ON A META TELL!

What about me seems happy :O?
Is it because of the way I am signing?
If it is, I'll be a little bit sad because this is just the way I sign on this hydra. This was my first hydra after Swizzle pop and Tay tay always signed weird and I picked it up and it turned out to be fairly unique to this hydra and only this one.
Also is there no other reason ur unvoting?

-nornorbearbearbearbear

awww someone told you my tell on you

So currently,

Scum:
Sugar Cain
Oily
Guillo
(Titus)
Null: Shit ton of peopel
Town:
Me(DUHHH)
Johnny(DUHHHHHHHHH)
Superb

-readslistssareeeefuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunn

awww I'm a null nornor you're breakin my old heart here </3

... wait, I have a heart? o.o ok I learned something about me today.

Ur much better now than 2 pages ago. So i will give u that.

But yes, i do want to go into the fighting arena. Pls send me.

And you have posted approximately 0.5 posts with content. I'd argue that's not at all better than me in many way tho you haven't spammed.

-norbeario

<insert popcorn gif>

Ur much better now than 2 pages ago. So i will give u that.

But yes, i do want to go into the fighting arena. Pls send me.

And you have posted approximately 0.5 posts with content. I'd argue that's not at all better than me in many way tho you haven't spammed.

-norbeario

Your dick is very big. Congrats.

*spits popcorn*

yeah ok my vote is staying here. This is just massively disrespectful and now I making it a me problem.

I'll sheep this for now.

VOTE: Sugar Cain

My SR on you just disappeared ^^

UNVOTE: Guillo

-happynornor

That easily? Now that's weird!

Weird but totally in character weirdly enough.

heres a free tip to all scum players who want to improve:
the best way to get townread is to post alot
the second best way to get townread is to not care about getting townread and not work towards that but continue doing your own thing.

townies who scumread u will often doubt themselves eventually especially if u can really show how little u care about their scumread and it will shaken their read because they will go "wow x isn't phased by my scumread. I must not have a good read. Otherwise he would have responded in some way that reaffirmed this read"

its paradoxical but it works.

FREE TIPS FROM THE CHAMPION!

I post a lot, care little about reads on me, and literally just do my thing. I'm always a scum read lol.

[Flea The Magician]

My pocket detector has gone off. I can't tell the heads apart which I suspect is the point of a hydra so I'm treating it as a whole and ignoring some things I'd normally hold them too.

As said previously, drunk posting isn't excusable for me, and will be weighted normally. If anything emotional states are more raw while intoxicated so reading through drunk posts would be more informative of alignment.

As ever, this isn't a case, this is me providing my thoughts as they come, as I read through the ISO of a player.

Spoiler: Do not pass go. Do not collect £200

Greetings, Gentlebeings!

I demand that Noraa be town this game so that I can work with her for once.

No, I'm starting to realize my actual super townie posts only come after a scum flip or two for info and then the words get flowin'

Sweet summer child. As town your towniness flows forth like the sweet river of nectar cascading down a freshly sliced honeydew. Is this ambrosia one I shall imbibe this game?

UNVOTE:

Unvote weird. Still RVS stage. Assuming it's the other head.

Its time to get real,

I am going to take you all down in that ring. There aint gonna be a need for a second round, I can beat you all with one hand tied behind my back at the same time! You fools don't know the first thing about the martial arts.

points at Dunnstral

Hey you, punk. Think you are tough enough to take on the peoples champion?!?! Or you going to cower and go home to mommy instead of me wiping the floor of this arena with your butt.

gestures at superbowl9

I bet this guy thinks he is hot stuff. But he has never had to face a real challenger like me! I can lift a hundred scrawny hims with one finger.

looks at Bell

and who invited this clown to this tournament? I thought this was a martial arts tournament, not a weakest human show. Can you even throw a punch pal?

This is gonna be a short tournament and I hope you all don't blink cause you might just miss the whole thing.

VOTE: Battle Mage

Oh wonderful excellent wow it's Firebringer I can't wait for him to post something directed towards me!!!

Oh he's talking to Superbowl first? Okay that's fine I'm sure he'll mention NACHO soon because Nacho is just do amazing and heartwarming.

Oh now he's talking about Bell? Haha hahaha he must be saving the best for last? Or something like that???

*cue crushing disappointment*

There's a thing about fluff posts like this, like the many I make, and that there's something always in them.

No, I'm starting to realize my actual super townie posts only come after a scum flip or two for info and then the words get flowin'

I was digging the your entrance until I got to this post. I don't have the impression from any game of yours that I've read or heard about or spectated or whatever that you had trouble projecting town before a couple scumflips. Is that a recent development?

Because the other head comes along and decides to interact with the same post, but this one is kinda looking busy.

I'm not sure entirely what happens to the person that comes out.
It might be be a revolving door type situation or sunk cost fallacy. Or something inbetween.

We should definitely nom FB first just because that WOULD be the most fun.

I imagine that some people will get bonuses from winning altercations which is why I was playing around with the "one town, one scum" duo but then also worried about scum having extra influence or getting a one-shot "choose the winner" and it's kind of just a wash. There's the potential to get fucked no matter what we do so we might as well just follow our hearts and fight for FUN.

This seems TMI-ish maybe? Why would this even be a consideration? It's creating an elimination pool and forcing a 1vs1 between two fighters.

I think BM's townread on Noraa was premature but her response did seem fairly town and I'm kind of buying the whole "more bubbly = more town" self meta argument.

I like the focal shift here. Starts on BM but then shifts fully onto a Nora read and justification.

Vote: Firebringer

Don't have any real reasons here, he's just not tickling me the way I expected him to. If I squinted real hard maybe I could say that calling BM town while ignoring others is something I disliked, but realistically this is all gut.

This seems off. Literally yeeting a vote at someone for the sake of yeeting a vote. RVS was undone prematurely IMO and this is terrible. There's just a vote, a null reason and nothing to follow it up?

For a hydra dated 2013 I'd expect some sort of prodding or poking more than the idle vote drop.

superbowl not even gonna question why i am voting my townread still. Interesting.

I'm always weirded out when people do the "I thought you were going to ask this question" thing. Why would superbowl specifically ask you why you were voting your townread? Why is it weird for you to be voting your townread when that expressed townread was not Uber strong?

We agree one something at least.

What if Nacho is scum in this game

Then sure would be nice if someone clued me in!

On what exactly?

I also don't know where the rumor started that I prefer town over scum but I've been pining for a scum role since I returned to the site. This is not the red PM I've been waiting for.

nah but it's a red pm, right?

Why is that

I like bread and threatened scum.

???

This isn't how this interaction typically turns out.

Interaction is interaction though, what's bad here?

Sorry nornor, I'd offer but I dunno if you're able to drink legally.

This is a mood.

Relevant shortly....

I really don't care who we send in with oily cuz I'm pretty dead set on voting out oily today. Nacho's lack of presence is particularly concerning.

-nornorbear

I'm disappointed.

Syr's made all of two posts this game - most of the old man posting has been me and me alone.

Wait that was you? Damn thats even worse then :/
Ok talk to me Nacho!

-nornorbear

I don't understand where your scumread is coming from.
My expectation would be that you could soulread me and that we could stomp thwomp the game together but you're meta scumreading me when you can't even tell when I'm posting vs not?

Surely that someone who should be capable of soulreading you isn't even to tell its you would tell you that your game is off?

Yeah the cain wagon is BS. Me no likey.

and trust me I've wiped out enough Cell Jr's.

I'm locked on my BM vote for the time being but I can get with BM vs SB.

I'm warm for a BM vote if firebringer shows me something good. He seems a hell of a lot more measured than what I'm used to from Battle town.

OK this was my first "Hmmmm...." moment. This reminds me of Titus in Death Curse. We've had almost no interaction and both this and the previous one look like attempts to get on the same side. We can also assume the drunk posting was starting here.

Why is you getting wagonned good for me as scum?

Especially as this seems out of place, I don't even know what this is in reply to

What if Nacho is scum in this game

Then sure would be nice if someone clued me in!

I think someone else got ur red pm. Just ask mod to resend ur red pm.

Awww see now this is the charm that I signed up for

Sassy.

Why is you getting wagonned good for me as scum?

It's not for you as scum.

Bad*******

Apologies, I've been drowning in alcohol thanks to football so my posts will make less and less sense as time goes on

eheheheheh....eeeehehehehehehehhehehe....

yo Guillotina, join the Flea-party with me

Why flea?

Why not flea?

yo Guillotina, join the Flea-party with me

Why flea?

go back and read my posts

I was hoping you could make up something better if I asked you a second time.

Your first attempt seemed like something you were reading off a teleprompter.

BM being a sassyass aside, why not say this intitially?

yeah this feels like flea-scum. very self-conscious and inward-looking analysis; big post mostly fluff

This post in particular.
What about faer posting is self-conscious, inward looking analysis?

Doesn't mesh with what fae's actually posted.

Pronoun corrections.
This is actually a nice post fmpov, suspicious from an outside pov. There's been no read expressed on me at all yet we got a good defence of me going here.

yo Guillotina, join the Flea-party with me

Why flea?

go back and read my posts

I was hoping you could make up something better if I asked you a second time.

Your first attempt seemed like something you were reading off a teleprompter.

that sounds like some real bad faith shit

"i was hoping you could make up something"

yeah, you and Flea can contest it today.

Yes the post is tinged with a bit of liquid courage but pretty sure the point I'm making doesn't need to be spelled out.

BM: You're acting in bad faith!
OT: I'm fissed as a part!

Good answer.

Fleas a good fae, I'm good going in with battle Mage at this point

Still no suggestion of a read on me, vote comes 3 minutes later so no biggie.

But I think BM is a good enough player where he sees what flea is putting down and has doubts instead of doubling down

But you've expressed nothing on me aside from I'm a good fae.

I already have - are you actually denying you did this? You admitted it earlier, but claimed it was in jest (despite it proving effective).

This is not the posting of someone trying to determine alignment, posting style be damned.

Maybe, but it is the posting of someone prodding a potential hole or contradiction they've found.

And I can't find it now but the "you're drunk, revisit this later" is gaslighting and makes me feel like I'm currently in an abusive relationships. I don't have a ton of battle Mage experience but I know him well enough to know that this is not him as town and anyone else with any sort of experience at him at all need to be rallying around the same flag because that's a load of hosrshitt.

This is legit. I'm 100% with this.

OT and BM aren't aligned in any world.

yeah this feels like flea-scum. very self-conscious and inward-looking analysis; big post mostly fluff

This post in particular.
What about his posting is self-conscious, inward looking analysis?

Doesn't mesh with what he's actually posted.

i genuinely think you should sober up and come back to the game tomorrow, if you believe this.

This isn't the posting of someone who believes that I'm scum with Flea. This is the someone who believes that I can be discredited and can come in the thread the next day with a completely different attitude.

Legit.

VOTE: flea

no point self-voting really, we get 2 votes

Noraa, for the record, this is why I hate being town. Because as town you can see people posting obvious postures like the above and you can jump up and down but no one listens to you.

Or worse yet people can post stuff like this and still be town??? But the condescending way that battle Mage is treating me currently is just not the approach he takes as town in any worlds at all

Also legit.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: oil tycoons

Because why would you try to sort my alignment?

Because BM is reflexive, your alignment is your read on him.

incredible capitulation.

to be clear, i'm happy to 1v1 with either player who has indicated 100% certainty i'm scum.

or the sensible thing would be to put them against each other, but that's not my call!

There's no 100% certainty you're scum in my posts. I've expressed some points that I don't like from you and instead of addressing them or attempting to address them you've patted me on the head and gone "go home Nacho, you're drunk".

OT has peeled off me at this point and is doing their own thing, entirely legitimately. Though I feel this was an easy one to break off on.

You feel like a lawyer currently. And I really really really think that it's an approach you're more likely to take as scum than as town.

Oof.

And that if I was solo I would dunk the ever loving shit out of you and I would feel such a dunk would be deserved even if you were town because the way you are approaching me currently is cartoon ish.

Ooof!

But here's a big ol' olive branch because I am too drunk to make a life decision currently. And if you are scum it is very likely advantageous for you for us to shit up the thread with a 1v1.

So do your thing, live your life. I'll return when I'm sober.

HWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
We go to a 1vs1 anyway later.

strange that you cite such great experience of my play nacho - have we ever played together before? have you read any games of mine? what do you make of the conclusion of people who do have experienced with me that I'm not playing to either town or scum meta?

I didn't cite great experience. Unlike you as a player. I assume a base level of competence but I'm leaving now like the good boy I am.

<insert popcorn gif>

Mastina, can you give me one game Day for old times' sake?

This is sus....

Spoiler: Conclusion!

Tune in next week!

[Flea The Magician]

My pocket detector has gone off. I can't tell the heads apart which I suspect is the point of a hydra so I'm treating it as a whole and ignoring some things I'd normally hold them too.

As said previously, drunk posting isn't excusable for me, and will be weighted normally. If anything emotional states are more raw while intoxicated so reading through drunk posts would be more informative of alignment.

As ever, this isn't a case, this is me providing my thoughts as they come, as I read through the ISO of a player.

Spoiler: Do not pass go. Do not collect £200

Greetings, Gentlebeings!

I demand that Noraa be town this game so that I can work with her for once.

No, I'm starting to realize my actual super townie posts only come after a scum flip or two for info and then the words get flowin'

Sweet summer child. As town your towniness flows forth like the sweet river of nectar cascading down a freshly sliced honeydew. Is this ambrosia one I shall imbibe this game?

UNVOTE:

Unvote weird. Still RVS stage. Assuming it's the other head.

Its time to get real,

I am going to take you all down in that ring. There aint gonna be a need for a second round, I can beat you all with one hand tied behind my back at the same time! You fools don't know the first thing about the martial arts.

points at Dunnstral

Hey you, punk. Think you are tough enough to take on the peoples champion?!?! Or you going to cower and go home to mommy instead of me wiping the floor of this arena with your butt.

gestures at superbowl9

I bet this guy thinks he is hot stuff. But he has never had to face a real challenger like me! I can lift a hundred scrawny hims with one finger.

looks at Bell

and who invited this clown to this tournament? I thought this was a martial arts tournament, not a weakest human show. Can you even throw a punch pal?

This is gonna be a short tournament and I hope you all don't blink cause you might just miss the whole thing.

VOTE: Battle Mage

Oh wonderful excellent wow it's Firebringer I can't wait for him to post something directed towards me!!!

Oh he's talking to Superbowl first? Okay that's fine I'm sure he'll mention NACHO soon because Nacho is just do amazing and heartwarming.

Oh now he's talking about Bell? Haha hahaha he must be saving the best for last? Or something like that???

*cue crushing disappointment*

There's a thing about fluff posts like this, like the many I make, and that there's something always in them.

No, I'm starting to realize my actual super townie posts only come after a scum flip or two for info and then the words get flowin'

I was digging the your entrance until I got to this post. I don't have the impression from any game of yours that I've read or heard about or spectated or whatever that you had trouble projecting town before a couple scumflips. Is that a recent development?

Because the other head comes along and decides to interact with the same post, but this one is kinda looking busy.

I'm not sure entirely what happens to the person that comes out.
It might be be a revolving door type situation or sunk cost fallacy. Or something inbetween.

We should definitely nom FB first just because that WOULD be the most fun.

I imagine that some people will get bonuses from winning altercations which is why I was playing around with the "one town, one scum" duo but then also worried about scum having extra influence or getting a one-shot "choose the winner" and it's kind of just a wash. There's the potential to get fucked no matter what we do so we might as well just follow our hearts and fight for FUN.

This seems TMI-ish maybe? Why would this even be a consideration? It's creating an elimination pool and forcing a 1vs1 between two fighters.

I think BM's townread on Noraa was premature but her response did seem fairly town and I'm kind of buying the whole "more bubbly = more town" self meta argument.

I like the focal shift here. Starts on BM but then shifts fully onto a Nora read and justification.

Vote: Firebringer

Don't have any real reasons here, he's just not tickling me the way I expected him to. If I squinted real hard maybe I could say that calling BM town while ignoring others is something I disliked, but realistically this is all gut.

This seems off. Literally yeeting a vote at someone for the sake of yeeting a vote. RVS was undone prematurely IMO and this is terrible. There's just a vote, a null reason and nothing to follow it up?

For a hydra dated 2013 I'd expect some sort of prodding or poking more than the idle vote drop.

superbowl not even gonna question why i am voting my townread still. Interesting.

I'm always weirded out when people do the "I thought you were going to ask this question" thing. Why would superbowl specifically ask you why you were voting your townread? Why is it weird for you to be voting your townread when that expressed townread was not Uber strong?

We agree one something at least.

What if Nacho is scum in this game

Then sure would be nice if someone clued me in!

On what exactly?

I also don't know where the rumor started that I prefer town over scum but I've been pining for a scum role since I returned to the site. This is not the red PM I've been waiting for.

nah but it's a red pm, right?

Why is that

I like bread and threatened scum.

???

This isn't how this interaction typically turns out.

Interaction is interaction though, what's bad here?

Sorry nornor, I'd offer but I dunno if you're able to drink legally.

This is a mood.

Relevant shortly....

I really don't care who we send in with oily cuz I'm pretty dead set on voting out oily today. Nacho's lack of presence is particularly concerning.

-nornorbear

I'm disappointed.

Syr's made all of two posts this game - most of the old man posting has been me and me alone.

Wait that was you? Damn thats even worse then :/
Ok talk to me Nacho!

-nornorbear

I don't understand where your scumread is coming from.
My expectation would be that you could soulread me and that we could stomp thwomp the game together but you're meta scumreading me when you can't even tell when I'm posting vs not?

Surely that someone who should be capable of soulreading you isn't even to tell its you would tell you that your game is off?

Yeah the cain wagon is BS. Me no likey.

and trust me I've wiped out enough Cell Jr's.

I'm locked on my BM vote for the time being but I can get with BM vs SB.

I'm warm for a BM vote if firebringer shows me something good. He seems a hell of a lot more measured than what I'm used to from Battle town.

OK this was my first "Hmmmm...." moment. This reminds me of Titus in Death Curse. We've had almost no interaction and both this and the previous one look like attempts to get on the same side. We can also assume the drunk posting was starting here.

Why is you getting wagonned good for me as scum?

Especially as this seems out of place, I don't even know what this is in reply to

What if Nacho is scum in this game

Then sure would be nice if someone clued me in!

I think someone else got ur red pm. Just ask mod to resend ur red pm.

Awww see now this is the charm that I signed up for

Sassy.

Why is you getting wagonned good for me as scum?

It's not for you as scum.

Bad*******

Apologies, I've been drowning in alcohol thanks to football so my posts will make less and less sense as time goes on

eheheheheh....eeeehehehehehehehhehehe....

yo Guillotina, join the Flea-party with me

Why flea?

Why not flea?

yo Guillotina, join the Flea-party with me

Why flea?

go back and read my posts

I was hoping you could make up something better if I asked you a second time.

Your first attempt seemed like something you were reading off a teleprompter.

BM being a sassyass aside, why not say this intitially?

yeah this feels like flea-scum. very self-conscious and inward-looking analysis; big post mostly fluff

This post in particular.
What about faer posting is self-conscious, inward looking analysis?

Doesn't mesh with what fae's actually posted.

Pronoun corrections.
This is actually a nice post fmpov, suspicious from an outside pov. There's been no read expressed on me at all yet we got a good defence of me going here.

yo Guillotina, join the Flea-party with me

Why flea?

go back and read my posts

I was hoping you could make up something better if I asked you a second time.

Your first attempt seemed like something you were reading off a teleprompter.

that sounds like some real bad faith shit

"i was hoping you could make up something"

yeah, you and Flea can contest it today.

Yes the post is tinged with a bit of liquid courage but pretty sure the point I'm making doesn't need to be spelled out.

BM: You're acting in bad faith!
OT: I'm fissed as a part!

Good answer.

Fleas a good fae, I'm good going in with battle Mage at this point

Still no suggestion of a read on me, vote comes 3 minutes later so no biggie.

But I think BM is a good enough player where he sees what flea is putting down and has doubts instead of doubling down

But you've expressed nothing on me aside from I'm a good fae.

I already have - are you actually denying you did this? You admitted it earlier, but claimed it was in jest (despite it proving effective).

This is not the posting of someone trying to determine alignment, posting style be damned.

Maybe, but it is the posting of someone prodding a potential hole or contradiction they've found.

And I can't find it now but the "you're drunk, revisit this later" is gaslighting and makes me feel like I'm currently in an abusive relationships. I don't have a ton of battle Mage experience but I know him well enough to know that this is not him as town and anyone else with any sort of experience at him at all need to be rallying around the same flag because that's a load of hosrshitt.

This is legit. I'm 100% with this.

OT and BM aren't aligned in any world.

yeah this feels like flea-scum. very self-conscious and inward-looking analysis; big post mostly fluff

This post in particular.
What about his posting is self-conscious, inward looking analysis?

Doesn't mesh with what he's actually posted.

i genuinely think you should sober up and come back to the game tomorrow, if you believe this.

This isn't the posting of someone who believes that I'm scum with Flea. This is the someone who believes that I can be discredited and can come in the thread the next day with a completely different attitude.

Legit.

VOTE: flea

no point self-voting really, we get 2 votes

Noraa, for the record, this is why I hate being town. Because as town you can see people posting obvious postures like the above and you can jump up and down but no one listens to you.

Or worse yet people can post stuff like this and still be town??? But the condescending way that battle Mage is treating me currently is just not the approach he takes as town in any worlds at all

Also legit.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: oil tycoons

Because why would you try to sort my alignment?

Because BM is reflexive, your alignment is your read on him.

incredible capitulation.

to be clear, i'm happy to 1v1 with either player who has indicated 100% certainty i'm scum.

or the sensible thing would be to put them against each other, but that's not my call!

There's no 100% certainty you're scum in my posts. I've expressed some points that I don't like from you and instead of addressing them or attempting to address them you've patted me on the head and gone "go home Nacho, you're drunk".

OT has peeled off me at this point and is doing their own thing, entirely legitimately. Though I feel this was an easy one to break off on.

You feel like a lawyer currently. And I really really really think that it's an approach you're more likely to take as scum than as town.

Oof.

And that if I was solo I would dunk the ever loving shit out of you and I would feel such a dunk would be deserved even if you were town because the way you are approaching me currently is cartoon ish.

Ooof!

But here's a big ol' olive branch because I am too drunk to make a life decision currently. And if you are scum it is very likely advantageous for you for us to shit up the thread with a 1v1.

So do your thing, live your life. I'll return when I'm sober.

HWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
We go to a 1vs1 anyway later.

strange that you cite such great experience of my play nacho - have we ever played together before? have you read any games of mine? what do you make of the conclusion of people who do have experienced with me that I'm not playing to either town or scum meta?

I didn't cite great experience. Unlike you as a player. I assume a base level of competence but I'm leaving now like the good boy I am.

<insert popcorn gif>

Mastina, can you give me one game Day for old times' sake?

This is sus....

Spoiler: Conclusion!

Tune in next week!

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: Next week....

I reckon OT's thoroughly tried pocketing me in their drunken state.
I'm SL'ing here, but BM more so currently. I'm happy seeing either flip rn.

[Flea The Magician]

awww someone told you my tell on you

I have to say that this tell is not accurate. If the plist isnt one that I am a fan of, it doesn't matter what alignment I get. Im not gonna be happy.

-norbearbear

If you say so <3

Curious why BM is a scumread for you rn

BM is still null for me. I've already mentioned why in my piece of shit readlist (im not letting that one go Mastina) and nothing has changed since then. BM would be my last option but still an option.

Ooof the salt is real.

[Flea The Magician]

see my scum experience with bell is hes lazy lurker scum, and what I get from those two bell posts is potential TMI that I'm town or that bell can't trust his own reads.

Bell did I do something to you? or one of your friends?

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: Next week....

I reckon OT's thoroughly tried pocketing me in their drunken state.
I'm SL'ing here, but BM more so currently. I'm happy seeing either flip rn.

you needed to review every single one of their posts individually to realise that Oil had been pocketting you? Don't believe it

I mean given you don't like me at all, I'm surprised you bothered to comment.

and I realised, it just didn't fully click as I had bigger fish to fry. You know, like you and the rude one.

[Flea The Magician]

Last I checked, votes were pointed more at Fire and Oil.

I mean, putting it like that means it's gotta be good, right?

[Flea The Magician]

Wait is flea taking the votes on fae personally?
That's concerning for my scum read of faer slot.
though I don't know why fae's just thinking that we don't like faer or something.
I like Flea.

ftfy.

[Flea The Magician]

I don't take votes personally, fire's vote on me is BS policy/rage voting. Honestly, I find it amusing

so I don't like the Cain wagon at all, feels opportunistic given the reasoning I've seen.

I'd rather not be in the arena, but I ain't scared to be if needed.

Oil and Fire, or Oil and BM are my choices for today.

[Flea The Magician]

Wait is flea taking the votes on him personally?
That's concerning for my scum read of his slot.
though I don't know why he's just thinking that we don't like him or something.
I like Flea.

Flea took things very personally in their last game as scum. Flea is also likely to take it personally you called Flea a "him", so be warned!!

in my first game as scum, definitely did. In Among Us, not so much.

[Flea The Magician]

excuse my ignorance but what exactly is a "fae"

Fae = faeries = a pronoun choice that causes a lot of anger in the pagan world.

It's also the one I'm most comfortable with, if you're not comfortable using fae/faer please use they/them

[Flea The Magician]

fire's vote on me is BS policy/rage voting.

i ain't mad at u? or policy u. I scumread u.

also what is a "fae"

Fair. Your vote looked like OOG rage/policy.

[Flea The Magician]

if your 2 choices both involve Oil-scum, vote Oil?

I vote for my highest read or policy.

Given fire is supposedly not policying me, you're currently my strongest scum read.

VOTE: bm

[Flea The Magician]

Wait is flea taking the votes on him personally?
That's concerning for my scum read of his slot.
though I don't know why he's just thinking that we don't like him or something.
I like Flea.

Flea took things very personally in their last game as scum. Flea is also likely to take it personally you called Flea a "him", so be warned!!

in my first game as scum, definitely did. In Among Us, not so much.

you took it personally in Among Us. you got legitimately upset when I called out your analysis as bad-faith and scummy, and iirc said you wouldn't post any ISOs again because i'd hurt your feelings.

eh my brain was in the bin, was half light hearted was half "wtf do i do then?"
but fair.

[Flea The Magician]

fire's vote on me is BS policy/rage voting.

i ain't mad at u? or policy u. I scumread u.

also what is a "fae"

Fair. Your vote looked like OOG rage/policy.

Do you scum read those that advocate for policy yeets?

Nope but if I'm being policied I'm returning the favour

[Flea The Magician]

excuse my ignorance but what exactly is a "fae"

Fae = faeries = a pronoun choice that causes a lot of anger in the pagan world.

It's also the one I'm most comfortable with, if you're not comfortable using fae/faer please use they/them

wait like the mythical creature?
okay im just gonna use they

Like the beings told in scare tales that people often make bad deals with.

and that's fair

[Flea The Magician]

ok fire, done a quick ego search of myself in your iso, there's nothing on me in there, no progression as such, where's the read from?

[Flea The Magician]

I think you're dodging the question.

[Flea The Magician]

I think your seeking to start fights in a way to get townread.

Unless this is the answer, in which case, fair.

[Flea The Magician]

My read came from analyzing our interaction and then going back and rereading ur interaction with bell. I don't think its coincidence that we had a tiffy nor bell and u had one. I think its motivated in a way to engage in fights to make it look like ur getting into TvT

Fair enough, so If I ask you to look at Oil and bell interactions?

[Flea The Magician]

Wait is flea taking the votes on fae personally?
That's concerning for my scum read of faer slot.
though I don't know why fae's just thinking that we don't like faer or something.
I like Flea.

ftfy.

Thank you, sorry. I mean nothing by it.

Uhh, I'm not scum partners with anyone in this game so Oil tycoon is also not partners with me.
Also, please, for my sanity don't try to full solve the game. with partners before flips etc.
It never works.

But I have maps

[Flea The Magician]

Wait is flea taking the votes on fae personally?
That's concerning for my scum read of faer slot.
though I don't know why fae's just thinking that we don't like faer or something.
I like Flea.

ftfy.

Thank you, sorry. I mean nothing by it.

Uhh, I'm not scum partners with anyone in this game so Oil tycoon is also not partners with me.
Also, please, for my sanity don't try to full solve the game. with partners before flips etc.
It never works.

But I have maps

I checked my role pm and it says I'm town and I have no scum partners.
So your map is a forgery or you drew it yourself. With doodles.

DOODLES ARE FUN THO!

[Flea The Magician]

Also show me this map
I don’t think anything should be on it that breaks any rules?

Was actually a joke. Anyone who actually has a usable map to the solve at this point either has too much time on their hands, is scum, or both

excuse my ignorance but what exactly is a "fae"

Fae = faeries = a pronoun choice that causes a lot of anger in the pagan world.

It's also the one I'm most comfortable with, if you're not comfortable using fae/faer please use they/them

wait like the mythical creature?
okay im just gonna use they

Like the beings told in scare tales that people often make bad deals with.

and that's fair

is it fair?

or is it faer?

Stop it.

[Flea The Magician]

so I don't like the Cain wagon at all, feels opportunistic given the reasoning I've seen.

I started it. Whats wrong?

-norbearbear

IIRC you started it because you wanted mom?

[Flea The Magician]

My posting never looks good lets face it

I have weird methods of working and people don't seem to like it, eh. it's chill. I know who I want where.

[Flea The Magician]

Also I keep forgetting titus and superbowl are in this game

[Flea The Magician]

All's Fair in Love and Mafia

Spoiler:

Nvm, dunno why I thought you were voting BM. What makes you think flea and BM are town

Just the intensity, depth, and pointlessness of the wall fight. Tbh I skimmed that noise.

you skimmed yet you're calling TvT? uhh...*shrug* fair.

I actually like this VOTE: Flea

What do you like about it?

That you're getting pressured. I'm liking this push from the new BM

Fair doobie.

*Offers Mastina a Mocha made by faer own fair hand*

My read came from analyzing our interaction and then going back and rereading ur interaction with bell. I don't think its coincidence that we had a tiffy nor bell and u had one. I think its motivated in a way to engage in fights to make it look like ur getting into TvT

Fair enough, so If I ask you to look at Oil and bell interactions?

Like the beings told in scare tales that people often make bad deals with.

and that's fair

I think your seeking to start fights in a way to get townread.

Unless this is the answer, in which case, fair.

fire's vote on me is BS policy/rage voting.

i ain't mad at u? or policy u. I scumread u.

also what is a "fae"

Fair. Your vote looked like OOG rage/policy.

eh my brain was in the bin, was half light hearted was half "wtf do i do then?"
but fair.

-------------------------------

wow that post went weird.

i'm not super motivated for this atm, too much of the "I think you're scum but i'll never vote you coz i love you" crap alongside the "i am gonna rage and be a jerk to you" crap. I'm fine volunteering to be on the chopping block as long as I get to pick the opponent - does that sound fair?

This isn't fair to me

Whats the purpose of this post anyway?

[Flea The Magician]

evidently.

[Flea The Magician]

Alternatively I'm just a weirdo who apparently switches up game to game.

Meta reads on me have failed in every game so far.

[Flea The Magician]

I mean, other than people just defaulting to me as scum that is.

[Flea The Magician]

If we're picking apart my meta, I'm not using anywhere near the appropriate level of kaomojis (⊙△⊙✿)

I'm also lacking my usual jokey tone and poking fun at things.

[Flea The Magician]

[quote="In post 906, kookiemonster"][/quote]
Be reet.

(Translation: I'll be fine.)

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: oil

[Flea The Magician]

Imagine me in hyper mode and nora just casual posting on a hydra together.

It would literally just be a fluff posting hydra.

[Flea The Magician]

Then poke them, ask questions and generate reads.

[Flea The Magician]

7 pages aint gettin read anyone got a summary?

This is a slot y'all are refusing to eliminate for some reason.

(I do promise that, circa tomorrow, when I'm in a better headspace, I'll be typing up my thoughts on each slot--I'm just not in the headspace to make it tonight.)

rest well and sending much love <3

[Flea The Magician]

poking is too aggressive i prefer to whisper gently in their ears "are you scum"

I'm town. I hope this helps you on your journey!

Then show us, mighty doggo! amaze with with your townieness!

[Flea The Magician]

who you calling semi-active?
I sleep ya know!

[Flea The Magician]

oof. Nora taking no prisoners right there.

So, oil's going in the arena, who with?

[Flea The Magician]

I'm important.

Invitation retracted

[Flea The Magician]

Oil and Guillotina is where I'm at rn. I wanna see this battle.

[Flea The Magician]

I mean my usual reply is summed up as "lol", "fair" or (♡´艸`)

[Flea The Magician]

I WILL NEVER GET YEETED

VOTE: Guillotina

get yote

[Flea The Magician]

Guilltonia is another anon alt, great.

No. Im not an alt. Funny thing everyone has said that when they meet me.
In one game i was scumread because i seemed to experienced for a noob. I'm a noob here but i've been playing this for almost two decades.

He's avoiding me. This is crucial. The moment someone starts tunneling a play style like this, if they are town, they will constantly refute.

But as scum, they are more cautious.

I got into a huge mess with guillo in Yellowstone cuz he kept replying to absolutely everything I said. He would prioritize my posts and replies to them because he WANTED TO WIN THAT FIGHT.

THIS IS NOT TOWN GUILLO.

-nornor

Go to hell! You scum read me in that game for those reasons and now you wanna say you townread me for those reasons too? You cant have it both ways! You are the scum here! Your reads change if someone is not doing your bidding, if anyone thinks differently than you they gotta be scum, if anyone agrees with you then they gotta be town.

You are easily pocketed for this reason and this is why make us lose games at lylo!

Personal attackers belong in the bin.

[Flea The Magician]

Claims can come later. get people in the 1vs1.

oil vs guillo, lets go.

[Flea The Magician]

Claims can come later. get people in the 1vs1.

oil vs guillo, lets go.

But Fae,
I wanted you to be in there.

Then vote me and convince others to as well.

[Flea The Magician]

I'm happy with both of these tbh. either or.

Gullotina isn't town in this game by the value of their responses to Nora imo. You also can't use meta on a player that's actively claiming to change it up.

Hell yeet me into the arena and I won't be here tomorrow, maybe the day after too.

We need people in the arena, the oil wagon stalled, I'm happy going back there.

Oil tried pocketing me pretty hard, little conclusive motion in their posts that I can see. I did my thing, you can see my thoughts.

[Flea The Magician]

Right if your vote is not on me, guillotina or oil, move it or justify it.

[Flea The Magician]

Mom your options at the moment are me or guillotina.

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah, and look how long it took to get something going for 1 wagon. there's 3 viable options, we got 4 days to work out an opponent if we get one locked in.

My choices are BM, Oil Guill and bell.

[Flea The Magician]

Your vote is on guill atm.

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah, and look how long it took to get something going for 1 wagon. there's 3 viable options, we got 4 days to work out an opponent if we get one locked in.

What do you think about the other two people voting you?

Right now, not bothered. I'd rather get this locked in and use the time better for later.

This is for a fight, the 1vs1 is where it really matters.

[Flea The Magician]

Excuse me, they might be shitty reasons, but they’re MY shitty reasons.

@flea so you think that BM and I have or contain one scum while being the primary pushers of your wagon while the later votes are fine?

Stop putting words in my mouth Bell. I said nor impiled any such thing.

[Flea The Magician]

Excuse me, they might be shitty reasons, but they’re MY shitty reasons.

@flea so you think that BM and I have or contain one scum while being the primary pushers of your wagon while the later votes are fine?

Stop putting words in my mouth Bell. I

neither

said nor impiled any such thing.

[Flea The Magician]

You said that you wanted to vote in a pool of four.
Two of these players have been pushing you.

I asked you, how you felt about the other two votes on your wagon and demurred. I did not put words in your mouth because I had a question mark attached. I was asking if my interpretation was correct.

Votes on me as of last count and my opinions on their slots:

Bell - Depends on Oil flip currently. bad push.
Firebringer - Policied me, lets be honest. vote out of nowhere, little indication of opinion on me prior to vote.
Gamma Emerald - Forgot he was even in this game. Confident in his ability to sort me properly.
Battle Mage - Bad pushes all the way, is using meta despite us have 1 completed game together where I was scum. Has OMGUS'd my RVS vote and held it.

I suspect min 1 scum on here, I know I'm an easy mislim


Pedit:

Pronouns please!

[Flea The Magician]

You said that you wanted to vote in a pool of four.
Two of these players have been pushing you.

I asked you, how you felt about the other two votes on your wagon and demurred. I did not put words in your mouth because I had a question mark attached. I was asking if my interpretation was correct.

Votes on me as of last count and my opinions on their slots:

Bell - Depends on Oil flip currently. bad push.
Firebringer - Policied me, lets be honest. vote out of nowhere, little indication of opinion on me prior to vote.
Gamma Emerald - Forgot he was even in this game. Confident in his ability to sort me properly.
Battle Mage - Bad pushes all the way, is using meta despite us have 1 completed game together where I was scum. Has OMGUS'd my RVS vote and held it.

I suspect min 1 scum on here, I know I'm an easy mislim


Pedit:

Pronouns please!

[Flea The Magician]

Flea is playing like Flea plays as scum

Guillo is playing like Guillo plays as town

what on earth do you want from me Titus?

You don't have the knowledge to say that with complete conviction.

[Flea The Magician]

if Flea is town here, they should start playing like it and makes everyone's life easier.

i'm not remotely interested in elimming one of my very few townreads.

if I'm wrong, so fking what, that's the game

AtE/dismissive and stubborn.

BM is goin in that arena.

[Flea The Magician]

Flea is playing like Flea plays as scum

Guillo is playing like Guillo plays as town

what on earth do you want from me Titus?

Wrong

Meh ok

A vote on Oil or a vote on G.

No Titus, I'm not wrong. Looks like you are, because you were actually in that game.

Titus also has more games with me and has played with town me.
Titus has also tried pocketing me and failed.

[Flea The Magician]

Not in this game, I should add, previously.

[Flea The Magician]

Town currently, you're solvy and being fairly transparent.

[Flea The Magician]

My voting priorities right now are
- BM
- Guill
- Oil
- Bell

I am willing to self hammer myself into the arena if it gets us more time to discuss the second combatant.

PEDIT: Probably not. I am curious where BM and Bell would vote instead. Both seem fairly locked on me, BM less so.

[Flea The Magician]

Hopfully we won't be waiting long, they should've been proded.

[Flea The Magician]

We have too many lurker slots -.-;

Also the irony in bell calling me semi-active when I've double his post count.

[Flea The Magician]

Flea is playing like Flea plays as scum

Guillo is playing like Guillo plays as town

what on earth do you want from me Titus?

You don't have the knowledge to say that with complete conviction.

I know you inside out

... bwaaaaaahahahahahahaaha!!!

Yeah ok, if you did, you'd have another point against me for your scum case. let me know when find it.
I swear if we are TvT then scum will be laughing their asses off.

[Flea The Magician]

like flea scum literally got called out in their last game for bad-faith pushes. and that's all they've done in this game. No idea how anyone can town read them. *shakes head in disbelief*

No, flea got called out by people mistaking faer THOUGHT STREAMS as CASES.

[Flea The Magician]

yup. while the others vote for a winner and loser.

You're not on todays considerations, why try and gain towncred?

[Flea The Magician]

Bad vote oil. your options are me or Guillotina currently, unless you want to try and generate a flashwagon so we don't have to SSGSS a wagon for the second combatant.

[Flea The Magician]

Flea, would this game improve if you were conftown?

Make sure G and Oil answer this as well.

Also Titus would like your input.

[Flea The Magician]

@Oil: Because I want to optimise the time we have. If we're struggling for this we're stuffed for the second.


@Guillotina: Because you're someone who by your own admission changes your meta up. So taking you at your face value in this game I don't think your reactions have been town indicative.

[Flea The Magician]

oooo you nearly got a bopping.

[Flea The Magician]

Guillotina, you're hardclaiming PR at several points now and "[youre] important".

you also say that you do this as VT to draw the night kill...

Why claim so quickly under no pressure and why do so to avoid votes? Why not prod and poke the votes on you, gather information, throw out that information while building cases and pushing your scumreads to give town something to work with?

[Flea The Magician]

"I change my meta every game."

"They've seen my town games! Why can't they see this is my town game?!"


Pick one please Guillotina.

[Flea The Magician]

yup. while the others vote for a winner and loser.

You're not on todays considerations, why try and gain towncred?

you're saying im not on todays considerations? didnt you just say i was your number 1 pick for scum? get your story straight

PS: I'm not "trying to gain towncred", I'm just town.

Just because you're

my

number one, doesn't mean you're the one been yeeted in the arena. Right now we've a very limited pool, and you're not in that pool.

[Flea The Magician]

I'm happy taking oil into the arena, but it's going to need a good momentum shift rn.

VOTE: Oil

So lets do it. Put your vote where your mouth is.


PEDIT: Misrep, good effort.

[Flea The Magician]

Flea, how is Titus misrepping me!?

She hasn't, you're misrepping me.

[Flea The Magician]

BM knows me inside out but doesn't know I buddy up to nora in every single game we've played together regardless of alignment, except death curse.

yeah ok.

BM also claims I've blind tunnelled them all game... pretty sure I went and prodded other people quite a bit, especially oil.

[Flea The Magician]

BM knows me inside out but doesn't know I buddy up to nora in every single game we've played together regardless of alignment, except death curse.

yeah ok.

BM also claims I've blind tunnelled them all game... pretty sure I went and prodded other people quite a bit, especially oil.

BM is very townie

BM is full of BS.

[Flea The Magician]

town doesn't misrep, town doesn't offer themselves as sacrifice when they're not even up for consideration, town doesn't OMGUS case an RVS vote.

[Flea The Magician]

And no there shouldn't be ANY claims happening BM, but I've seen more than 1 so far and frankly it concerns me.

[Flea The Magician]

i did type a proper response flea, and then i realised...I cba with you atm. All you do is respond to people with "NO U". If you decide you want to actually scumhunt like a townie, I'll be here to talk. But it's a waste of thread-space to debate with you if, as people with more experience of you have claimed, bad-faith tunnelling people regardless of alignment is your playstyle.

BS.

Because why not post it? If you've gone to all that effort, why not post it?

You're full of misrep, and you're just full of rubbish. You're going in the arena.

[Flea The Magician]

You're so focused on me you've not even seen me interacting with others and prodding and poking things.

Yeah I'm a weird ass player, I'm weird ass people.

[Flea The Magician]

And no there shouldn't be ANY claims happening BM, but I've seen more than 1 so far and frankly it concerns me.

have you considered stopping rolefishing then? because the closest we've come to a claim so far, was entirely because of you?

Wrong again.

[Flea The Magician]

town doesn't misrep, town doesn't offer themselves as sacrifice when they're not even up for consideration, town doesn't OMGUS case an RVS vote.

have u ever met a town player?

yeah, several.

Town doesn't intentionally misrep, town only offer themselves when no other option is available and town OMGUS all the time, but don't build a damn case on OMGUSing and RVS vote!

[Flea The Magician]

Straight up, I'm putting BM in that arena. They stink of trying to manipulate my position for miselimination, misrepresenting me at all possible moments, and trying to squeeze information out of me they seem to have missed.

For someone who knows me inside out, they're doing a bad job of whatever it is they're trying to do.

[Flea The Magician]

Difference is I can prove it.

[Flea The Magician]

This is referring to page one. this is referring to a page one wagon which my vote would've placed at E-2.

flea you're scumread because you tried to derail/take momentum away from the FB wagon. makes more sense as scum than town - as scum you could be trying to take the heat off a buddy or trying to pocket FB. As town, I figure you probably just go with the top wagon like others did.

im fine with guillo's approach

pedit: never buddy noraa

I've been BMs top scum read since his SECOND POST in game.

flea are you scumclaiming on page 1!?

Yeah the cain wagon is BS. Me no likey.

and trust me I've wiped out enough Cell Jr's.

I'm locked on my BM vote for the time being but I can get with BM vs SB.

I'm warm for a BM vote if firebringer shows me something good. He seems a hell of a lot more measured than what I'm used to from Battle town.

good observation - but im just playing this game differently. meta-wise it's NAI as I don't normally do this as town or scum.

Sooooo where I'm apparently using AtE to deflect suspicion and you're using my meta to (badly) read me... when we've got no completed games together too I might add.

You're changing up your meta to avoid meta reads being any use. (≖ლ≖๑ )ﾌ


Right, then we've got Noraa in this game who I honestly love playing with and I think has been in most of my games in some form, who has played with me often and who can't meta read me for the life of her - and lets face it she ain't a bad player. Nora's also town btw, waiting on more from the other head to make a decision on the slot as a whole.

you using the "no-completed-games" thing as a crutch is super scummy to me, because you know I am familiar with your playstyle. I don't know why you would be so disingenuous as town, so I'm lockscumming you. If you're town, please show something more than lazy OMGUS.

i'm not changing my meta to stop people meta reading me. just fancied doing this game a bit differently.

Yeah we've now got 1 game completed together. where I was scum... and you're now "familiar" with my playstyle.

incredible capitulation.

to be clear, i'm happy to 1v1 with either player who has indicated 100% certainty i'm scum.

or the sensible thing would be to put them against each other, but that's not my call!

The first misrep. I haven't said 100% certainty at this point.

now it's finished, to note my view that Flea here feels exactly like Flea-scum in Among Us Mafia.

Also this was an interesting highlight from the scum PT there:

BM's scumhunting consists of townreading people who townread him and scum reading people who scum read him
So just be careful picking that fight

Eh, I'm in too deep at this point OMGUS is easy to deflect away when I do my thing

so yeah, I think this is Flea-scum. Flea-Oil still works for me.

Like I said before, on what planet does me having this information mean I go for you?
Optimal play from me as scum is ignore you completely and just NK you.

Spoiler: Next week....

I reckon OT's thoroughly tried pocketing me in their drunken state.
I'm SL'ing here, but BM more so currently. I'm happy seeing either flip rn.

you needed to review every single one of their posts individually to realise that Oil had been pocketting you? Don't believe it

You're familiar with my playstyle, you've seen me drop this before.

All's Fair in Love and Mafia

Spoiler:

Nvm, dunno why I thought you were voting BM. What makes you think flea and BM are town

Just the intensity, depth, and pointlessness of the wall fight. Tbh I skimmed that noise.

you skimmed yet you're calling TvT? uhh...*shrug* fair.

I actually like this VOTE: Flea

What do you like about it?

That you're getting pressured. I'm liking this push from the new BM

Fair doobie.

*Offers Mastina a Mocha made by faer own fair hand*

My read came from analyzing our interaction and then going back and rereading ur interaction with bell. I don't think its coincidence that we had a tiffy nor bell and u had one. I think its motivated in a way to engage in fights to make it look like ur getting into TvT

Fair enough, so If I ask you to look at Oil and bell interactions?

Like the beings told in scare tales that people often make bad deals with.

and that's fair

I think your seeking to start fights in a way to get townread.

Unless this is the answer, in which case, fair.

fire's vote on me is BS policy/rage voting.

i ain't mad at u? or policy u. I scumread u.

also what is a "fae"

Fair. Your vote looked like OOG rage/policy.

eh my brain was in the bin, was half light hearted was half "wtf do i do then?"
but fair.

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wow that post went weird.

i'm not super motivated for this atm, too much of the "I think you're scum but i'll never vote you coz i love you" crap alongside the "i am gonna rage and be a jerk to you" crap. I'm fine volunteering to be on the chopping block as long as I get to pick the opponent - does that sound fair?

This isn't fair to me

Ah yes, the "fair" tell.

Flea is playing like Flea plays as scum

Guillo is playing like Guillo plays as town

what on earth do you want from me Titus?

You don't have the knowledge to say that with complete conviction.

I know you inside out

Important bit there.

kookie and flea voting together again. how interesting.

Followed my vote pretty quick though didn't ya.

i did type a proper response flea, and then i realised...I cba with you atm. All you do is respond to people with "NO U". If you decide you want to actually scumhunt like a townie, I'll be here to talk. But it's a waste of thread-space to debate with you if, as people with more experience of you have claimed, bad-faith tunnelling people regardless of alignment is your playstyle.

But you know me so well? Why do you need others to tell you my playstyle? o.o

And no there shouldn't be ANY claims happening BM, but I've seen more than 1 so far and frankly it concerns me.

have you considered stopping rolefishing then? because the closest we've come to a claim so far, was entirely because of you?

Misrep, as I prompted none of them and only poked at ONE of them, this is you trying to get information out of me what you might've missed.

part of me wonders if flea is just salty and embarrassed that i called out their lying about our experience together earlier in the game. but from my PoV this tunnel is exactly what I know Flea would do as scum, so my read is perfectly understandable, although I'm willing to be proven wrong.

Where did I lie? Show me. Show the class. Where have I lied about our experience playing together?

[Flea The Magician]

Also looking back I suspect your pronoun "jokes" may have been intended to incite me.

[Flea The Magician]

part of me wonders if flea is just salty and embarrassed that i called out their lying about our experience together earlier in the game. but from my PoV this tunnel is exactly what I know Flea would do as scum, so my read is perfectly understandable, although I'm willing to be proven wrong.

Where did I lie? Show me. Show the class. Where have I lied about our experience playing together?

@BM - Answer this, ignoring me or not. One of us is wrong, and it ain't me dude.

[Flea The Magician]

Also my avatar is blowing kisses I will animate it one day...

[Flea The Magician]

Out of respect for the rest of the players in this game, some of whom have requested such, I will not continue to discuss with you, Flea.

One question, whats it going to hurt?

[Flea The Magician]

Nope. I want that answered at least - and he can't answer it because he knows I'm right.

[Flea The Magician]

He's so keen on me being scum but sheeps my vote on oil.

Again, optimal scumplay for me and oil being partners here would be for me to continue to allow the wagon to stagnate and deflect, not restart it. Or at least for me to find a reason to jump off it about now.

[Flea The Magician]

Hey you wanted the tunnel <3 Just giving what you asked for

My position hasn't changed, I'm happy with the 4 I said previously being in the arena, happy yeeting myself in the arena if it gets things moving. No idea what votes are looking like at the moment.

[Flea The Magician]

oh and for someone who knows my scum game so well, he's missed 2 "tells".

[Flea The Magician]

oookay, now where was I... betrayed by the nornorbear after inviting her to the town picnic.. guillo has had his invitiation revoked for a bit while he answers the questions I left him...

Mastina can definitely join the picnic party on the blankie.

Mastinaaaaa....
Lets talk about Oil a little bit. The reaching out bit confuses me a touch. Like it seems a bit :/
What about Dunn is town for you? My experience tells me lurker dunn is a scummy dunn.
What about superbowl is scummy?

[Flea The Magician]

And no there shouldn't be ANY claims happening BM, but I've seen more than 1 so far and frankly it concerns me.

Not a single person has claimed. BM and Guillo softed but frankly Guillo seems to find it wonderful to soft pr as vt under pressure and idk if BM is the same.

-tsutsu

neither were under pressure is the thing, like BM griped at me for using AtE to deflect a vote on me and they've hinted a PR to stop votes potentially shifting on to him...

Guillo has all but claimed role -.-; again under no pressure.

[Flea The Magician]

it seems like every BM towngame has someone irrationally tunnel him

Why cant we use this logic for superb?

-norbearbear

Mood though.

I'm literally default scum at this point, usually because of you actually xD

[Flea The Magician]

Wow me and BM actually agree on something.

[Flea The Magician]

We have come to your town with a following, to bring you light but we're gone very sooooooooon. We are the kings of the world that has never beeeeeeen, we are bound to the ship of dooooooom

Love this song.

I'd love to be able to get the breath control to belt it properly one day.

Anyway I'd want superbowl to be able to contribute properly before we yeet them into the area.

Can we get oil in there at least for now?

[Flea The Magician]

I do agree for what it's worth, Flea v BM does seem TvT.

I don't think its TvT! I think Flea goal with each fight is to make it look like they are in a TvT!

*pffffbbfbfbfbfbfbt!*

PEDIT: Hey look who's taking the indirect route with me xD

[Flea The Magician]

Like what planet even does me trying to make things look like TvT even make sense?

Surely I'd be trying to poke and prod gently, like fire is kinda doing

Just enough to be getting by, not so little as to dodge attention

[Flea The Magician]

Hi im back and still not reading

I think im gonna pull a titus and play from like a few pages back each day

And people think this is town and not scum getting away with literally fuckall while the active/loud/noisy players who're either entirely town or mostly town, actively eat and devour each other live.

I'll never get why y'all don't get that this is just superbowl9 as scum letting the town fight town.

Honestly, I'm just factoring in the V/LA at this point to dismiss them. I get your points fully and if not for that I'd be voting there with you.

We got a couple days, I'm sure we can yeet them in the arena if needs be. Know who I'd rather see in there mind.

[Flea The Magician]

Bell go make a real read on me and stop blaming my "AtE" otherwise you'll have been ATE by me!

[Flea The Magician]

Oil Dunn Superbowl9 Gamma...who is with me?

Convince me on BM and Gamma and maybe.

As per Mastina I'm going to ISO dive Dunn at some point tomorrow.

[Flea The Magician]

Bell go make a real read on me and stop blaming my "AtE" otherwise you'll have been ATE by me!

Just sayin I have pictures to prove I'm a bloodthirsty fae!

[Flea The Magician]

I also have weak to moderate TRs on everyone else

Really? I only have 2 townreads.

I must be getting slow in my age.

I'm scared to ask how many SL+ reads you got o.o

[Flea The Magician]

Sitting on the sidelines

Feels like alot are doing that Titus

I also have weak to moderate TRs on everyone else

Really? I only have 2 townreads.

I must be getting slow in my age.

I'm scared to ask how many SL+ reads you got o.o

One and its u

@Titus I think Bell is also. Momarangal is. Nero cain is when it doesn't concern him.

Me to a certain degree.

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So you have 2 town reads... 1 scumlean+....

and you're worried about people sitting on the sidelines....

[Flea The Magician]

BEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL I know you can hunt good, come hunt! Bite the butts! cause waves!

I don't like it when you're off to the side, it makes me sad and suspciious!

[Flea The Magician]

and you're worried about people sitting on the sidelines....

no? I am saying most people are on the sidelines.

Including you.

Come on, jump in! You're set on me being scum, who are my buddies? Prod and poke things!

[Flea The Magician]

╰(✧∇✧╰) Lets get some motivation going in here, ya'll don't want me tunnelling on BM, so lets do stuff! (╯✧∇✧)╯


I mean that's just rude I know I run into people like a derailed freight train but still

[Flea The Magician]

and you're worried about people sitting on the sidelines....

no? I am saying most people are on the sidelines.

Including you.

Come on, jump in! You're set on me being scum, who are my buddies? Prod and poke things!

i don't know. u could tell me who ur buddies are. might save us all time.

I don't have any that I know, i gotta find them!
Cmon, get over here, help me find my buddies.

[Flea The Magician]

I mean I say I don't have any, I'm confident in Titus, Kookie and Mastina rn.

*yeets a canned beverage towards titus*

[Flea The Magician]

I don't have any that I know, i gotta find them!
Cmon, get over here, help me find my buddies.

ugh. This is like me trying to help someone find their lost keys. HOW WOULD I HELP U IF UR OT TELLING ME WHERE U LAST SAW THEM!

Hey last time I saw them they were in my hand!

[Flea The Magician]

Yes, I checked my other hand too! And by bag! and my pockets! and my meds box! ... they're in the frikken lock again aren't they -.-;

[Flea The Magician]

omg imagine a Chiaotzu role

Supersaint/pgo

[Flea The Magician]

screw mushrooms, you wanna try my pain meds. I be stoned rn because of them beasties. i normally take them before i go to sleep to stop the nightmares and stuff (usually works) because of the effect they have.

Its 3am and I am freaking wired.


Making my own weird mocha thing at home probably didn't help either...

[Flea The Magician]

(note: Don't take prescription meds unless prescribed, there's a reason these have this effect!)

[Flea The Magician]

(note: Don't take prescription meds unless prescribed, there's a reason these have this effect!)

DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO FAE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey you got a freebie from fae, don't knock it!

Also stop messing with my portals ¬_¬

[Flea The Magician]

I wondered what that pong was o.O

But yes, lead by example! Get stuck in!

[Flea The Magician]

I keep wanting to try and sleep but I have an epic playlist playing thats supposed to help me chill... it's failing.

Nocturnal poetry / dressed in the whitest silver / you smile at me / every night I wait / for me sweet seleeeene

... oh gods...

[Flea The Magician]

It's 3:30, I need to slep. Gnight nerds <3 Make content for me to poke! or vote Oil, either or.

[Flea The Magician]

Ok. Good evening, I have an hour before i go to sleep. I'm super tired so, bare with me.

"I change my meta every game."

"They've seen my town games! Why can't they see this is my town game?!"


Pick one please Guillotina.

Why do I have to pick?

I change my meta at will but there are certain traits that I display involuntarily when I town regardless of the meta I portray, such as:

1) I protect my townreads but I'm not afraid to re-evaluate and push them if they raise a red flag.
2) My aggressive sugarcoat-less tongue.
3) I do not coward when I'm pushed, no matter who is doing the pushing and no matter the repercussions I may suffer for posing such resistance, specially against consensus town read players.
4) I question everything that seems odd even if it's not odd for everyone else.
5) I rarely sheep anyone, if I place a vote, it's because I believe in it. This is both a quality and a defect because it's hard for me to agree on a consensus vote I don't believe in.
6) I'm not afraid to OMGUS.
7) I tunnel

[snip]

I don't meta hunt, I use meta by playing with people and seeing their habits develop live. Mostly because I lack the attention span.
You're using meta to defend yourself yet when you're attacked with meta you dismiss it as you change it up every game. Those points you've raised you could do quite happily as scum.

BM than made a meta case on me which I countered with a similar meta case,

Which I'd appreciate if each of you stepped away from because it's completely useless to the rest of us.
Don't talk about ongoing games also means don't dance around ongoing games.

I wasn't, as I said, we had no completed games together and I was aware he's a reflexive hunter like me. Ongoing games are completely off the table for me to discuss.


VOTE: Gamma because we need a consensus wagon -.-; I'm still more on my prior list but we gotta get 2 in the arena

[Flea The Magician]

I have tried several times to extend the olive branch though and said I won't engage with that slot's tunnel on me to keep the game moving productively.

Have you?

I've seen no such thing.

I have also seen you state things that faer never do as town, do those as town. More than one person has noted it and your still going down this rediculous tunnel, to the extent that it seems that you're ignoring the rest of the game

Becasue I caught him in his lie and he got in too deep an hes tryyyyyna keeep, up above with his head, insteeeeaaaaada goin under!

He won't interact with me because then he's got to admit he's lied constantly.

[Flea The Magician]

nah flea, i'm not interacting with you because you're making the game a complete chore for me, and I'm respecting the request from other players that I don't continue to indulge your behaviour at the expense of any other slots being looked at. your approach to me is objectively bad-faith, and anti-town, and if there's a majority of players bad enough to sheep you on it, I'm fine with dying. I'm only continuing playing in the vain hope that eventually you'll give it a rest and do something useful.

Then answer my last question to you.

[Flea The Magician]

yeah we resolved that.

[Flea The Magician]

Bellllll please be careful with my pronouns, it's happening a lot this game Please use fae/faer or they/them for me

[Flea The Magician]

Bellllll please be careful with my pronouns, it's happening a lot this game Please use fae/faer or they/them for me

[Flea The Magician]

Oil has pinged me so amma do my thing.

When did we start pinging you? Last time BM asked you about your read on us you were leaning town and I don't think there was much content between then and this post.

Nachos drunkpost pocketing attempt.

[Flea The Magician]

Oil has pinged me so amma do my thing.

When did we start pinging you? Last time BM asked you about your read on us you were leaning town and I don't think there was much content between then and this post.

Nachos drunkpost pocketing attempt.

That doesn't look like a pocketing attempt. If anything, they're applying pressure to sort you.

felt like trying to get me on side looking back at it.

[Flea The Magician]

1530 is an epic response and how my thought walls should be handled.
The majority of BM's defence in this game has been "You're bad faithing me" - and since hes been handed a "get out of jail free card" to avoid interacting with me he's just blown me off at every point lol.

ngl, I haven't looked at Dunn today and i've got no intention to, I've had a freakin awful day.

[Flea The Magician]

one thing on my mind wrt sugar cain is that nero feels similar to when me and him (as part of NC 39) squared off in that coalition game in how he's engaged noraa
but I don't think noraa is a partner because while I leaned into the push in the other game, it doesn't feel like noraa is making the push a primary part of her gameplay rn. It's a focus point sure, but it's not like she's flooring it
PEdit: okay then guess I'll step off as well
VOTE: flea I want this, faer posting has not looked good recently

Again this isn’t the lim vote, just a nomination

dont worry Gamma, I got your back!

VOTE: Flea

....

[Flea The Magician]

Flea, would this game improve if you were conftown?

Make sure G and Oil answer this as well.

Titus how much easier does this game get for you as conftown?

[Flea The Magician]

Flea can you claim please. I hate that we're doing this and y'all dumb for this but whatever we need to throw someone in so that's that.

-bearbear

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

...

*yanks townpicnic rug out from under nora*

[Flea The Magician]

I've no problem with being in the arena, but like balls am I prematurely claiming nora, I expected better of you

I mean I've already dropped AtE to deflect votes, lord knows what BM would do if i claimed early too like he did :eyeroll:

[Flea The Magician]

I've no problem with being in the arena, but like balls am I prematurely claiming nora, I expected better of you

I mean I've already dropped AtE to deflect votes, lord knows what BM would do if i claimed early too like he did :eyeroll: