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no banned users in this thread right?

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first impression on reading this current page: gamma feels town.

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VOTE: NorwegianBoyEE
I think I feel comfy here for now on my quickskim of the game

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Also gonna use this post to blatantly soft a protective role. Don't mind this post. Theres a big gate on it, you can't get into it.

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anyways I'm going to fuck off and watch some anime have fun kids

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silence scum

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U'd be mad too if every game with him he pushes your slot for shit reasons and makes town lose the game and he doesn't even feel bad about it.

I'm not Not_Mafia.

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we can eliminate him so that doesn't happen

I think you posted this in the wrong chat

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gut

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did you have any sort of point to make here quiet?

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nice Not_Mafia joined the game

I'm miller, I swear

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LMAO my votes on the right slot.

Have I "missed" anything? Anybody has queries para moi?

What made you FoS NPOM?

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its ok I'm a daymodvig. I get to shoot and someone dies and it immediately ends the day.

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I like my ice cream with flavor. Just saying.

Do you like your leaves with flavor too?

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Its D1?

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there's an alternative to pushing a low content slot. You can always question them first. Unless you specifically saw soemthing scummy?
What info do you have so far Luca from your push on whatever "LHF" slot you're supposedly pushing?

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Sorry bro, i'm firmly in the 'meta is bollocks' camp.

If you're hanging your hat on it, my experience of Mini is that she played exactly the same as scum as she did when she was a town PR.

i have a funny graph i wanna share re: meta. The absolute best town players i know utilize meta effectively. Its a good tool. I find those that discard it don't actually know how to use it.

What do you think of Norwegian?

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andres be honest with me, did you rand scum here?

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NPOM is just Not Good in general i was cringing at his reads and engagements. Mostly useless

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For reference, in my last normal game, the scum team acted out with “too obvious” scummy things like quickhammering and voting together in a bloc. I don’t intend to let anyone get away with that unexamined in this game.

Andres, you were in that game.

Lol that game was a dumpster fire with titus so far up flavor's pocket

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Gamma where are your reads at. You seem like a lad who's had significant in thread interactions

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For the BBMolla thing: claiming miller is a joke from a site they used to visit, Epicmafia. Reading into it as scum indicative is useless

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i have a daycop guilty on mini

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Consolidation means allowing scum to influence your decisions. First build a townblock then force others to consolidate with you.

never played a large b4 btw but this is the obvious play if you want to avoid limming town or at least not someone who will be useful town.

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speaking of which, I have gut townreads on Andres Gamma Ranny Luca so far. I am willing to vote with them, but mostly just Andres since he has trusted accuracy here, as long as they give me good reasons to.

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Right now I think my top 3 gun to head maf reads would be quiet, chk, and Norwegianboy. I still haven't read much of what happened before I replaced in.

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[img]https://i.imgur.com/JCSAomo.png[img] as promised, my graphic about people's belief on meta vs their skill level

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i am a doofus.

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Bypasser you haven't read the game. Your reads suck.
Be better.

Interesting take. Anything useful to say though?

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Norwegian, what was your read on NPOM?

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Alright I have decided. I will go into combat against Cheeky.

I wield a bat of +3 Scumhunting.




Cheeky, choose your weapon.

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Norwegian is scared of being mauled by a bear

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VOTE: PlusJoyed Baa

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No alts can hide from me.

I wasn't trying to hide it, I was just wondering how long until someone realized it.

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After reading #858 i suspected it was you.
After further cross-examination i realized it was 100% you.
Won't spoil tho.

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this avatar is magic

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799.

It's a secret message.

..Open 799..

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I'm sure you might know more about that Norwegian

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This game needs an actual good push to get some good discussion going.

I've actually found this game to be quite refreshing so far, with decent discussion with minimal shit posting. Do you just not like any of the current wagons?

Actually i like this.
Competing wagons between Cheeky/Mini makes the game much easier for me to read in terms of finding scum.

Possibly more, because would scum really bus at this point?

Haha! I have a game for you...

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12285030 ?

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VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

Oh no.

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Wait, Not_Mafia always votes themselves on joining a game.
Ergo, Norwegianboy is Not_Mafia

ergo, not mafia and norwegianboy are the same person and thus multiaccounting.

(/s based on not_mafia meta obviously moderinos no bannerino)

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you and your Nor this and Nor that how about you XOR out of here huh

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discrete math joke

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im also softing my PR target tonight oddly enough

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I'm sure you might know more about that Norwegian

Are you trying to provoke me?

I would never do such a thing

Yes I would

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sup fuckers im drunk

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The points against NM is fair though, and I'm aware of cheekys preferences and NMs disposition to games but I would hate to

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on policy, which is what it does kinda feel like to me

you cant eliminate me

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sup fuckers im drunk

Okay I really should have known. Like the posts felt very familiar - I just wasn’t sure why. So you just like the avatar huh?

I PLEAD THE FIFTH

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I guess that probably sufficient proof that Bypasser Catcher and Not_Mafia are not the same player?

I guess so.

I’m hard locking Binatog as Town.

What makes you say that I'm town early in the game?

These are my reads right now.

Town

- Nero Cain
- Titus
- Vaxkiller
- DrippingGoofball
- Momrangal
- quiet
- Bypasser Catcher
- Luca Blight
- Norfolk Boy1
- Gamma Emerald
- BBMolla
- chkflip
- Andresvmb

Suspicious

- MiniMegabyte
- Rannygazoo
- Binatog13

Scummy

- CheekyTeeky
- PlusJOYED
- Hayker

I might be suspicious but I am town.

Right now I think my top 3 gun to head maf reads would be quiet, chk, and Norwegianboy. I still haven't read much of what happened before I replaced in.

Why norwegian would be Mafia?

well norwegian is not Not_Mafia
but really that was my gut read at the time based on the posts i read. i still havent even read the game and am basing all my reads based on brief skim of recent content and ITI

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milky milky mommy miltank

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this is flipping town

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Is Not_Mafia even readable?

Yes.

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What on earth is this absolute garbage tier shit posting.

vote:not_mafia

Absolute rubbish. This is considered allowed play?

Whats scummy about it that you moved your vote there?

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Gamestate just declared not_mafia town. The fact hes at hammer distance this fast with no real cooperation between townies shows it.
Town are just voting bc of playstyle dislike and scum are piling on.

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Voting people for being annoying is an easy way to obfuscate not actually scumhunting and is extremely anti-town

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convenient "afk" also exists though. It's just never provable.

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I'd like to hear from plusjoyed before ending day

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so keep em at most at e-3, e-2if you have to

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Want me to post my search history. I think i've got an log stating i was rapidly switching between youtube videos ahahaha.
Plz kill me if mafia games end up like this.

convenient "afk" also exists though. It's just never provable.

if u try to prove it via history thats OGI as much as I'd like you to

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Can we at least consolidate onto the PlusJOYED wagon to breathe some life back into this day? It feels atm like we're going through the motions and Not_Mafia's elim is inevitable.

What do you think, Andres?

I SR Norwegian and I’m not sure I want to vote for plus again. I will give plus the opportunity to come back and give us an update on what’s happening with them. I have played a few games with plus and I don’t think they’re useless, so I’m okay waiting for now.

What are you seeing thats scummy from Norwegian ?
I have a secret tell that i think i've noticed but im keeping it close to my chest until I'm more certain so i dont look like a clown

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Bypasser you haven't read the game. Your reads suck.
Be better.

Interesting take. Anything useful to say though?

Everything i've said is useful.

I strongly dislike posts like this. "everything I said is useful" Just insisting that ones own play is good. Never a good thing to see.

Its not a scummy post.

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Hayker can you post a reads list for me rq.
Reasoning for each slot appreciated but not required

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cheers andres

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Voting people for being annoying is an easy way to obfuscate not actually scumhunting and is extremely anti-town

That's not mafia

What?

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not mafia isnt a bad player he just makes trolly mechanical choices lol

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I tend to be scumread as town a lot by players because of my playstyle just saying.
Is there anything you think is scummy about me that's not just playstyle choice Andresvmb?

You're not exhibiting that playstyle here

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VOTE: quiet flash wagon this.

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quiet

No I miss it put it back.

Bypasser, do you disagree on Hayker? Or at least putting pressure on that slot? Or do I just generally scumping like crazy for you.

Since they’ve gone back they’ve come for NM and Norwegian in relatively low-effort ways. I scumread the slot before they got back, and am on board with (I think Andres) sentiment that I’m comfortable waiting till plus gets back before putting pressure there. Why not push here?

Why do you scumread hayker

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Don't know how to multiqoute, but Bypasser, what do you think the point of Hayker chiming in on your one-line back and forth with Norwigian was? Like why jump on that interaction?
I read the interaction like this
Bypasser: Gives reads, says didn't read full thread
Norwigian: Says reads are bad, says go read thread and be better
Bypasser: Got something useful to say?
Norwigian: Did I stutter? Calling your reads bad was useful (and/or i've been useful, what have you been doing)?

Either way, interesting back and forth.

Hayker clipped the last line "Everything is useful", and shaded it like this:

I strongly dislike posts like this. "everything I said is useful" Just insisting that ones own play is good. Never a good thing to see.

Of everything in the thread, that's what we focus on? Of everything Norwegian has posted, that's the scumping? And why are we targeting Norwegian here after being gone from the thread for a while? It seems off to me.

Ok ngl i like this.

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The alt is Dkkoba.
As they alt slipped earlier i feel no obligation to stay quiet about it.

okey
yeah BC is not locktown rn

when ur scumgame is too good to get locktowned early on.. feelsbadman

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It's not NM's play that makes me believe they are town, its the play around him, if it makes sense.

I read not only how a player acts, but the reactions to how they act.

I think its a bit like how ppl get gutreads that end up being accurate put into words and explained.

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hood me up, we can spam miltanks and no one can stop us

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VOTE: Rannygazoo

LET'S FUCKING GO MOM I GOTCHU

why doe

I guess I can't stop alt slipping in this game

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Tbh I kind of just want this day to end so I can do my night action

VOTE: Hayker

millers dont have night actions smh my head

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Since we’re discussing NM’s claim in detail, what do you make of the tracker soft?

wow tfw my PR soft was ignored wtf!

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my brain is mush and i just wanna dayvig someone

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#mindmushmeld

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1 shot loyal neighborizer

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Oh wait fuck, I forgot to shitpost

me when I accidentally start playing the game when I say I am just going to be casual and not tryhard

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im sad because i lean scum on NM here

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I am thinking about Not_Mafia. They are trolling. My first game with them is they were scum.
They have also had many claims, from being a daymod to being even night neighborizer (idk what the role does). Then suddenly posts spam (scummy) posts.
Also their first read on me as top of the townread is pretty sus, I am being suspicioned by many people yet NM still had my name on top of the townread? Thats pretty sus.

You think NM is choosing you to pocket?

Yeah. I think they made that to let the town think that I am scum with them.

lol bina is town

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VOTE: Not_Mafia one of my scum reads

what are ur reads in general?

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Your current behavior with regards to something that was at-best antitown to mention at all doesn't really sit well with me.

Also yaaaaaay hella people are claiming D1 again. Good job, guys. You're really doing the job well here. [/sarcasm]

so what you're saying is the town joat shouldn't claim d1?

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That is 100% what I'm fucking saying.

I dont like this slot at all and believe it should be eliminated early so it doesnt complicate things later in the game

VOTE: Not_Mafia

VOTE: Not_Mafia one of my scum reads

Noting to self: remember these in the event Hayker is flipped and is red. Timing, slot presense, and wagon standings at this particular point could be telling.

Could be.

what an incredibly hedgey stance. Thank you very much.

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Imagine making sure you make a note about something that, looking at the gamestate, is rather likely to happen save a cop clear on Hayker... only to be accused of fence sitting.

Shut the fuck up.

you repeated "could be" twice in the post. That's why I called it hedgy.

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What are your other reads atm chkflip?

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Also I suggest deep breaths before you make your posts, we don't want you saying anything that goes too far here, I was quite taken aback by the defensive nature you responded to a reasonable interpretation of your post.

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Your ISO is very cluttery and hard to read, it would make it easier for people such as myself if you consolidated it into 1 post.

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ok i've decided I want to keep NM around just for the comedic content.

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Your ISO is very cluttery and hard to read, it would make it easier for people such as myself if you consolidated it into 1 post.

it being your reads

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My goal is to then verify them by then using ctrl-F on your ISO and seeing if they match up with what you say here.

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Noted that you are unwilling to cooperate and help your slot be read better.

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Do you find yourself being an early elimination in games often?

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I find myself commonly in the position of having to correct other players that I've yet to play with that no, I didn't sign up to this game to hold your hand through comversations with me, and I don't have to play the game how you feel it is played optimally (we will refer to this in later instances as "protown") by any means of their definition.

That's pretty commonplace, yes.

Then what may happen is a vote, or oh me oh my a whole ass train, but do I often get eliminated D1?

Hahahahahahaha

Aaaaahahaha

Hahah

No.

No matter. I will ascertain your alignment one way or another. You declined the easy way. Of course you may get lucky and I will be night killed early regardless.

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im sad because i lean scum on NM here

Huh
If we wanna vote BC I think that’s a good move

NM has a claim that can be confirmed
BC doesn’t and has sketchy interactions with NM

where did this come from?

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Lay out your thought process for me.

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this is flipping town

im sad because i lean scum on NM here

ok i've decided I want to keep NM around just for the comedic content.

This progression is ass
VOTE: Bypasser Catcher
I’m gonna ante up on this

Hey I'm here. You gonna ignore me or are u gonna actually talk to me buddy.

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Ah well fuck it lets see this play out. I'm disappointed u declined to question me about it and just instead went straight for the shade.

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I think you decided to whiteknight NM and once the momentum slowed felt like expressing a lean scum read on NM that you still have no intention of acting on
I might discuss it with others but I don’t think you’re gonna change my mind

That sounds really dishonest, if I'm being honest, Gamma.

I'm not going to explain why you are wrong right now so I can get info on other people's reaction to your move - but I will say your reasoning and logic is notably weak. Are you perhaps bluffing and hoping to get a reaction out of me?

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You seem extremely careful about interacting with me here btw Gamma, is there something you aren't saying/a reason for this?

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I don't think bypassers interactions with NM make his alignment any more or less apparent.

when you say "he" do you refer to me?

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its "they" I need to update my profile now that I've slipped lol

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If I'm being honest, I think Gamma is town but a little confused fwiw.

I can see where the thought process can come from as town but I do want him to explain it himself as I need to verify if it matches up with what I'm theorizing.

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wait why was plusjoyed even a wagon they only have 5 posts

i was just sheeping andres LOOL

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Hayker can you post a reads list for me rq.
Reasoning for each slot appreciated but not required

alright I was doing a little research to see what was going on and such with the gamestate cause I was getting mad confused but I'm gonna follow up on this request that I actually forgot about - > @hayker

VOTE: Hayker

And gamma im not trying to deflect from ur push here, I want to still engage you. If you don't engage me, well, that's a bit cowardly especially considering how weak your case is against me. I don't understand why you'd make such a weak case for a slot you yourself are also suspicious of right now tying me to them.

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I've thought about it for the past 20 minutes and I've decided i think im actually confident enough to locktown gamma here. Explanation on request after gamma responds to me.

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I think you decided to whiteknight NM and once the momentum slowed felt like expressing a lean scum read on NM that you still have no intention of acting on
I might discuss it with others but I don’t think you’re gonna change my mind

That sounds really dishonest, if I'm being honest, Gamma.

I'm not going to explain why you are wrong right now so I can get info on other people's reaction to your move - but I will say your reasoning and logic is notably weak. Are you perhaps bluffing and hoping to get a reaction out of me?

Keep in mind you came into a slot that had a lower starting point for how I was reading it, since NPOM hadn't been especially towny before he got force-replaced. So really it's just a piece of the puzzle. You came in to a scumread slot, posted things that I thought were towny for the incorrect person I thought you were, I recalibrated when I found out your real identity and had less confidence in my townread but still felt you were kinda town, and then your NM handling brought you back into the SR zone. So with that, I don't think my read is that weak or that I'm being dishonest. And no this isn't intended as a reaction test.

So here's where I point out that your claim that my progression is "terrible" is bunk.
Between the point where you quoted that I said NM is prob town and shifted to a scumlean, there were 300 posts Gamma. 300. I recently played a game with NM where I was able to correctly sort them as town in a vanilla setup. This isn't a place where I'm seeing the same vibe from NM. I'm not infallible. I make mistakes. I'm definitely allowed to rectify them later when I see evidence that shows that I was wrong.

As for that last quote, that was mostly facetious with light seriousness that I want the claim to play out. You also scumlean the slot as per your recent posts. You can understand the PoV then why I want that too. You come off as a person who takes every statement people make as serious especially over text so I don't fault you for thinking I was just "flip flopping" there.

I said I'd wait for more reactions but I'm feeling impatient at the lack of activity rn.

Also you pinpointed the exact theory I had in my head about what I noticed wrt your progression on my slot.

So what brings you to believe this is specifically me being scum, seeing as your read is also based in who is occupying the slot?

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no one else scumreads titus huh

They're in my PoE

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not to townslip but how many scum usually in a large

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I was just rolling with the number 5 based on playercount dunno if thats accurate

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yall think we got a SvS wagon going?

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@Bypasser

: you said earlier the gamestate confirmed Not_Mafia as Town, why do you no longer believe this is the case?

I was half bluffing the statement tbqh. When I enter a game I pretend to make strong reads that I myself am not actually confident in because strong reads generate strong reactions which lead to stronger reads.

not_mafia's gameplay has lacked any sort of stance taking, which is something I saw when playing with him in our last game where they were town with me.

But overall I want the PR claim to resolve itself here as there's that chance he's just being a troll on purpose as a PR. I don't lim PR claims on D1 even if they are "scummy". D2 onward is fair game though.

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Luca join us on the Hayker wagon

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Lots of shiny wagons. I like this in the long term.

In the short term, I'm conflicted bc the people I don't think are town are agreeing with me.

And who might that be.

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I still prefer a PlusJOYED elim for this reason:

I just realised that this is Hayker's first game in like 8 years, so perhaps they're a bit rusty/out of touch.

A quick meta search tells me PlusJOYED is capable of towntelling as Town, so I'm content with my vote there for now.

And I find PlusJOYED’s catch up unsatisfying to say the least, so I’d rather keep my vote there for now.

rustiness applies more to being scum than town. town is natural. scum is not.

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Are you for real.........?

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Join date is irrelevant. Compare their meta and get back to me.

have u considered:

>IRL obligations
or
>dynamics of being in a large normal for the first time

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nah the gamma read is legit. I won't go back on it unless they get mechanically confirmed not town or evidence down the line suggests a reeval is necessary.

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if i give solid substance like that on a townread its more than likely legit - otherwise it might be me baiting a scumread to do something I want to be able to sort them 100%

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I'm waiting for something of substance to happen like an elim

why?

can you explain why the lack of post content from you by the way?

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i really wish the quick reply section told me which account i was in cause ill draft a post partially, then tab out, switch accounts for something then come back and forget

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i agree with the No, this line is pointless Norfolk.

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im gonna point out what reads i find a bit egregious, or rather I have massive pings on wrt how im viewing the game atm vs ur explainations. yellow = mild red=major

Look, I find quiet’s read list to be without substance too, but I don’t think putting it through the wringer (ringer?) is going to help at this stage. With day 1, 20 players, and a lot of junk without a flip, asking someone to have really sophisticated reads right now is asking a lot.

Quiet’s list might be useful going forward because we can watch if there’s a natural progression going forward, but I don’t think it’s useful now.

I was marking what I thought was bad for future reference in case I die, not primarily for current discussion.

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I like to leave a "path to solve the game" for people in the case I die since I tend to die the night before I get my "aha" moment or am on the right track, etc.

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Hawker vote

Ok, I missed NM claiming. What was it?

Uh, this is pretty lazy. I voted Hawker because NM claimed and I was sheeping others to get off that wagon. I even said later that I don’t know what makes Hawker stand out from other lurkers. Is lazy the new Titus meta?

judging by recent games I don't think there's anything AI u can gather from the shift in playstyle here from her usual play. Just follow her pushes and judge from there.

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why are you spoilering all your supposedly important content?

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call me biased but like i have seen a recent trend of seeing certain people who flipped scum hiding stuff within spoilers for whatever reason (idek why they did this) so its like setting off confbias pings on you rn.

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im sad because i lean scum on NM here

Huh
If we wanna vote BC I think that’s a good move

I think you decided to whiteknight NM and once the momentum slowed felt like expressing a lean scum read on NM that you still have no intention of acting on
I might discuss it with others but I don’t think you’re gonna change my mind

That Scum Lean did not sit well with me either, actually. So I’m with you there. Don’t know that I want to break up the wagon on Hayker for it just yet.

just full FOS me so i dont get night killed pls

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alright i wanna say this too: i wanna say that im comfortable townblocking these people right now: luca blight, andres, gamma, binatog(i know, hot take but thats my view. but trust me on it if i die tonight. at least for d2/d3.)

close to doing so: norwegianboy
potential addition down the line: ranny, titus

motherfucker

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andres, even excluding me, can you agree with my townblock list? I wanna try approaching this game in a way that puts scum in a really shite situation of being PoE'd.

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alright fair enough. I kinda like wanna get at least some townhunting solved too cause its improtant in a Large settting with so many competing scum voices and such

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I’m more certain about chkflip, but I have a soft spot for aggressive Scum hunting.

chkflip is town to you?

i mean i would just keep them out of a townblock for the sole reason i think their reads would be bad tbh LOL just keep them at the top of the PoE if u really think so. im not sure on their alignment rn.

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Ranny actually I’m also thinking is Town, to be totally honest. Would be quite surprised if it flipped Scum.

yeah i played with them in a newbie game and sorta could feel the same energy here. subconscious tells me theyre town here. we kinda butted heads back then but i think they have a potential to be really good

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deadline is at 11:30 est :^)

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norwee cult leader

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nero can i like have a few games thats representative of ur average play as either alignment? i just wnana get a vibe for it cause of ur playstyle displayed here

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I’m more certain about chkflip, but I have a soft spot for aggressive Scum hunting.

chkflip is town to you?

i mean i would just keep them out of a townblock for the sole reason i think their reads would be bad tbh LOL just keep them at the top of the PoE if u really think so. im not sure on their alignment rn.

From what I’ve read, chkflip seems strong as a player, actually. And I have a similar view of BBMolla, except Molla is happy letting the day expire so I’m not too sure if the slot can be trusted. Would have liked for them to really stake out their views some more.

have u played with chkflip in games where they were strong??

they literally just said they weren't.

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I’m more certain about chkflip, but I have a soft spot for aggressive Scum hunting.

chkflip is town to you?

i mean i would just keep them out of a townblock for the sole reason i think their reads would be bad tbh LOL just keep them at the top of the PoE if u really think so. im not sure on their alignment rn.

From what I’ve read, chkflip seems strong as a player, actually. And I have a similar view of BBMolla, except Molla is happy letting the day expire so I’m not too sure if the slot can be trusted. Would have liked for them to really stake out their views some more.

have u played with chkflip in games where they were strong??

they literally just said they weren't.

No my comment was strictly about their content here. I haven’t looked at any of their other games.

And having a bad win/loss rate is not a good way to judge a player. Sometimes the Town for example just sucks despite your best efforts.

I agree.
But the player admitted it themselves.
ugh like drunk me wants to be like "fuck u andresis scum"{ rn and its like frustrating like i wanna townread u here so bad like i want that rerun of where we both solve the game again?>

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andres u were already revealed to be a fraud back in Bending smh my head

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i was joking sorry.

i wanted to NK u first

and then like falvor butted in and wantedto take care of flavor FOSes fisrst

i was scared when flavor gaslighted u too

sorry i was just flexing a win and being udmb

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Thought I'd give this a shot. Ordered by gut.

Spoiler:

Town

Andres (my locktown)
Bypasser Catcher (when does content, is real real good content.)

Towny

Vaxkiller (good content, great catch up posts, probably shouldn’t read Vax this high but just like them on gut)
Luca Blight (+town interactions p. much all the time, putting in work)
Gamma Emerald (trusting Bypasser read, liked them beforehand too, is scary, think it’s the avatar)
DrippingGoofball (thought responses to/posts since wagon on them were super towny)
Nero Cain (really liked them early, a bit quiet since but still read them here)
NorwegianboyEE (I would love to see if scum!Norwegian is capable of posting at this frequency + detail and not get caught out)

Null
Titus (do they have tells?)
chkflip (liked them early, kinda grumpy lately, null right now)
BBMolla (ha as if i’d read BB)
Norfolk Boy1 (town content, low post count, need more time to sort, but like his presence in the game)
Binatog13 (perfectly capable of this posting like he is as either alignment)
MiniMegabyte (still slandered from early wagon, but I didn’t find it too compelling then or now)
Momrangal (disagree with most reads/posts from them)

Scummy

plusJOYED (we want a readlist!)
Rannygazoo (I don’t think I’ve liked a single one of your posts. Sorry, Rainycat)

Scum

Hayker (my preferred low content wagon. didn’t like pop in at all. didn’t like Norwegian shade either.)
CheekyTeeky/NM (think just flips red, I understand the utility of wait and let sort themselves via claim, but idk, I like flipping red)

heybbmola good to see you. I am also pro flipping a slot soonish. Is there anything else to get out of today? Or are we just waiting for votes to consolidate.

I’m a bad one to ask for guidance, theoretically there is more to be found readswise but I just think it’s a lot of work off less and I think a flip makes our reads more accurate. There’s a point where I think too much info becomes a bad thing. Will be helpful later in the game tho.

this is correct , like i looked at the statistics someone gave of newbie games where scum flips d1 were super super low?? like but then like accuracy went back to 50/50 after day1.

letting PR actions dicstate helps a lot.

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Hey now, let's go for 100 pages.

easy with me around <3

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ugh i wanan nk NM first more and molre

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Iaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Are you kidding me? That’s the Towniest thing Not_Mafia has done today.

ARE U KIDDING ME

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andres u were already revealed to be a fraud back in Bending smh my head

I'm dragging this game but like

Ever since DK slipped, I keep thinking they should be more paranoid about my slot than they've shown to be after their TR on me in alt mafia

the alt game i was just strtaight up not having a good time imma be real.

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ur not even in my townlocks so what makes u think im not paranoid agbt u tho
/???

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i like feel the prssue to solve d1 cause im afraid of dyng n1 does that make sense

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or at least find townreads to get ppl to trust d2 ?? idk like i feel presire to at least help meake sure ppl are on track to win,
i wanna win the nomination for rising star XD

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I PUT U AS A TOWNBLOCK READ U GOOF

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THATS NOT ILLEGAL

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not in this contexzt, no!

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i like feel the prssue to solve d1 cause im afraid of dyng n1 does that make sense

I'll be sure to sheep you if you get N1ed, I modded micro 977 so I know you're a potent town player
but I'm not willing to trust you aorn because bending showed you are fierce scum as well

this is why im llike saying ur town here cause ur progression bleeds u showing this preogresion that shows that.

but if i flip town after N1 PLEASE sheep me at least partiall;y

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ur not even in my townlocks so what makes u think im not paranoid agbt u tho
/???

Maybe this is just me being overly neurotic and me overlooking your slot forgetting that you subbed into a scum-lean slot but I don't see signs of trying to sorting me out and stuff

idc how im read. i know im obvtown when i wanna be

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ok im gonna claim it cause yolo but im mason with 1 person i placed in my townblofck.

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i didnt tell them cause i think its a good play to deceive scu m jhere but just trust my townblcok for now ?

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im hydraing with Koba and WindowsXP

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ok im gonna claim it cause yolo but im mason with 1 person i placed in my townblofck.

Why are YOU claiming anything right now?

cause im drunk as fuck lol

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I demand the deadline be extended by 1 hour for the time the site was down even though i was sleeping during it

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ok im gonna claim it cause yolo but im mason with 1 person i placed in my townblofck.

Is this real

yeah with you
Or maybe not. Who knows?

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vc asap, only just woke up so apologies for any errors

this is a scumclaim

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my townreads are voting all over the place. Not a good sign.

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My hammer finger is twitching, don't play with meeeee

Don't like this

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This talk of "We can only get an Hayker/NM wagon is BS btw.
Has anyone of you ever heard about a flashwagon?

CFDs are a great way to catch scum

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@Norwegian:

Because I guess Nero will be easier to read as the game progresses, whereas for the other two this might not be the case. I don't like the idea of letting PlusJOYED skate through the day with no content whatsoever. The Hayker slot is either scum or a liability, and could do with sorting sooner rather than later.

U are self contradicting pls stop

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What is CFD? Some kind of disease?

chinese fire drill

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https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Chinese_Fire_Drill

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@Norwegian:

Because I guess Nero will be easier to read as the game progresses, whereas for the other two this might not be the case. I don't like the idea of letting PlusJOYED skate through the day with no content whatsoever. The Hayker slot is either scum or a liability, and could do with sorting sooner rather than later.

U are self contradicting pls stop

I don't see how?

Ur using the same reasoning to push plus that u are using to resist nero.

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Mind u nero has 5x the posts of PJ

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Fuck i didnt page top page 69

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VOTE: nero

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lol the wagon on me is ass. I was gone for a weekend and have 30 pages to fully read. You guys are saying that im not being "normal" Nero but what about my early game wasn't soelvy and shit? The only thing my flip does is improve my scum meta b/c I can point to this game and say "look I got ran up for "lurking" and didn't flip scum."

I think Hayker is pretty nul. If you want to argue that he's null and not doing things b/c he is scum then ok. I'll ofc be voting him over myself. You could also argue that im like a haykey CW (if he's scum) and that there's scum sitting on me and eliminating in Gamma/CHK is prob a good idea anyways.

im not voting you for lurking.

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lots of Beetlejuice from molla

btw btw

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when I flip town who do u want dead luca?

ur posts sound agenda driven and the reads u do give sound like they come from an informed POV.

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cool.
can you tell me your current reads based on what you know so far?

i wanna see where ur progression goes after u catch up supposedly.

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momrangal and Nero literally slipped

i can confirm, i was there, i was the patch of ice.

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cool.
can you tell me your current reads based on what you know so far?

i wanna see where ur progression goes after u catch up supposedly.

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alright thats enough for me to keep my vote here for now.

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all you're doing rn is whining about being wagoned.

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when do you expect you will be done with catching up sufficiently enough?

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like where are u at etc.

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wrt catchup, how much have you not read.

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when do you expect you will be done with catching up sufficiently enough?

im not going to catchup and waste my time if I'm just gonna get eliminated and tunneled on for the rest of the game.

If you aren't going to help others discern your alignment then I don't see a reason to cease the path to your elimination then.

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There's a big reason I am moreso suspicious of Nero atm and it does have to do with their reads list -> i wanna say this and let it simmer over the thread before I move on and give more info, but there is a low chance of me moving off of this unless something significant happens.

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also can we can the personal insults.

attack the play not the player.

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because im town

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AtE by itself is NAI

but I think the motivation behind using it here is AI, SI specifically because its an overexaggeration of the situation nero is in.

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because im town

doubt

scum case me

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I didnt really have an opinion on nero until this morning.... and this morning is not great, but I'm leaning not mafia, I think his claim is even more BS with a masonry claim, and I have much better vibes from bypass.

i also claimed gated investigative dont forget

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oh right i forgot i put a gate around the post u cant see it

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vaxkiller is conftown

oh for fucks sake

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Also gonna use this post to blatantly soft a protective role. Don't mind this post. Theres a big gate on it, you can't get into it.

wait nvm but still vax slipped uninformed

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well I didn't much like NPOM

also

There's a big reason I am moreso suspicious of Nero atm and it does have to do with their reads list -> i wanna say this and let it simmer over the thread before I move on and give more info, but there is a low chance of me moving off of this unless something significant happens.

this is word salad

like bypass doesn't actully dig down and explain this more reasoning. its just words wich also leads me to believe they are just bandwagoning for the sake of bandwagoning which is kinda scummy.

I said Imma let that statement marinate in the thread??? like its meant to put u on edge and be more susceptible to alignment telling

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bruh now u just straight up lying LMFAO

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I didnt really have an opinion on nero until this morning.... and this morning is not great, but I'm leaning not mafia, I think his claim is even more BS with a masonry claim, and I have much better vibes from bypass.

i also claimed gated investigative dont forget

Wait, are you just fucking with us?

vaxkiller is conftown

oh for fucks sake

Also gonna use this post to blatantly soft a protective role. Don't mind this post. Theres a big gate on it, you can't get into it.

wait nvm but still vax slipped uninformed

but anyways reminder that vaxkiller is town and im not going to accept any wagons on them ever this game

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Also of note is that Vax is townreading bypass and Bypass is buddying up to Vax.

spew me town harder <3.<3

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Andres, whats your read on Nero? And why?