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Post Post #1 (isolation #0) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:06 pm

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Confirming mason role. Finally got to be town for once!
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Post Post #2 (isolation #1) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:07 pm

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Hallo friends what’s our strategy?
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Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:23 pm

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I’ve never played mason either. Kinda want to spice things up with something
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Post Post #12 (isolation #3) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:24 pm

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We don’t have to vote each other. Can crumb if the crumb isn’t too obvious
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Post Post #13 (isolation #4) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:26 pm

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3 man mason in a mini game is quite a lot if town power. I wouldn’t expect other strong PRs out there so we have to make our presence felt.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #5) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:33 pm

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For now let’s wagon together and vote as town block
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Post Post #16 (isolation #6) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:14 am

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3 is normal for a normal game. There is but only if scum has something overpowered. I really think cook is scum btw
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Post Post #23 (isolation #7) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:10 pm

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Will do the same.

Jim your vote on cook was kinda scummy since you called him town.
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Post Post #26 (isolation #8) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:43 pm

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More than 3 would be in lying territory. Let's go with 2-3. I have a great way to crumb both of you but I need to wait for the right moment
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Post Post #27 (isolation #9) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:44 pm

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and Zuko you're tr too much and prime target for Night Kill
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Post Post #28 (isolation #10) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:44 pm

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So i might scumread you a bit there
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Post Post #29 (isolation #11) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:46 pm

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We don't have to overeact to wagon on Jim. With two of us never voting him he'll just need to lurk or something to not be the majority. Everyone is vote hopping like soab
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Post Post #32 (isolation #12) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:16 am

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Gonna try low key defending Jim a bit or at least extract somE info to who’s the scumbag on his Wagon. Once again don’t overeact
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Post Post #42 (isolation #13) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:11 am

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Yeah I'm getting minor experienced scum-vibe from dk
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Post Post #43 (isolation #14) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:12 am

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A way to prove we are mason is to mention some facts about ourselves here for each other to provide evidence that we were mason in case it comes to that. What do you guys think?
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Post Post #44 (isolation #15) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:13 am

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I'm getting a zuko-NK tingle
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Post Post #47 (isolation #16) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:27 am

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So for example, you’d tell us about a very particular experience you had with a player in the thread and your thoughts on it. If I’m able to recite that, it would proof that you would have told me in a mason thread.
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Post Post #49 (isolation #17) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:43 am

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Anything else about you that someone might know is ok. And I’m speaking in the case one of us dies and we need to give evidence to being mason with the dead
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Post Post #50 (isolation #18) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:44 am

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Yeah well tell me your favorite food
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Post Post #64 (isolation #19) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:18 pm

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In post 52, Prince Zuko wrote:cos what has me stumped is like, how does this info get confirmed without actually saying it in thread
The very fact that I can mention that you like burritos is already going to provide strong proof for mason-buddy. Only very creative scum can think up something like that.
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Post Post #65 (isolation #20) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:19 pm

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In post 53, Prince Zuko wrote:
In post 710, DkKoba wrote:tris/nopoint/jim
Well we know this is wrong mostly, doesn’t make her scum but I’m not liking it. Idk if it’s just cos I get defensive of y’all or what lol
It'd be pretty damning for dk if cook flip scum
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Post Post #66 (isolation #21) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:21 pm

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In post 63, Prince Zuko wrote:I have an idea to crum we’re mason or that I have a confident read that y’all are town using my main, without outing myself tho
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Post Post #67 (isolation #22) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:43 pm

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Like jim was a bit scummy so I could see why he might think Jim is scum, but putting me as scum by association then is a lil sus, like he’s desperate to push back against a cook lynch
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Post Post #72 (isolation #23) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:25 pm

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AND dk is getting scummy to the level that is more than cook. I could definitely see dk scum if cook was town here, pushing on a vanity wagon
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Post Post #73 (isolation #24) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:29 pm

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In post 71, Jim Hawkins wrote:"I have reasons to believe" implies you have inside info, which scum can re-word into making *us* look like the scum trio. I can't see that working until at least one of us is killed and flips. We just have to do it through positive reads of each other.
I can read you as town pretty easy Zuko. But nopoint is a little harder to justify right now because there isn't a whole lot of content to go off of, which leaves me at a null read for now.
I really don't think there would be any other PRs than 3 scum and 3 masons. An extra mason pair would make it too pro-town, unless there was a 4th scum. But that would seem unbalanced, too.
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Post Post #74 (isolation #25) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:01 pm

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So Jim what's your favorite food? Mine is Viet food
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Post Post #75 (isolation #26) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:12 pm

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Also if we lynch cook and he flips scum, one of me/Jim is likely going to be killed so we have to do breadcrumbing before that happens.
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Post Post #79 (isolation #27) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:39 pm

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Yes, I've already made my br with Jim, now we need to establish some kind of connection
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Post Post #80 (isolation #28) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:40 pm

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breadcrumb*
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Post Post #81 (isolation #29) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:41 pm

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Fun fact, I've had a chance to post in QTs for 3 games in a row (You can also use this fact to tie yourself to me)
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Post Post #90 (isolation #30) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:08 am

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Cool stuff, I’d probably be targetted for being vocal about lynching cook though, sad.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #31) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:29 am

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I’ll send you guys my solve for tonight. This flip is pretty revealing for a lot of people
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Post Post #92 (isolation #32) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:53 pm

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Here is my read-list, ordered from towniest to scummiest. I realized that it doesn't matter if Mafia kills me if I can get my thoughts out through you guys. Feel free to use them and pls cite them for town-cred if I die tonight.

TOWN:

Bugspray:
- Cook's tmi and slip about Bug being town at Post#88

Esoa/Tris:
- From Cook's Post#199, it looks like Esoa vs dk is really TvT (since he's asking Andres how does Andres know it's TvT). Also the way Cook was encouraging that fight really looked like he was trying to get towns to bash each other's heads in.
- From Cook's Unvote in Post#303, it sounds like Cook was reverting his scum-read to "not rock the boat" and try to sound friendly.
- I liked the progression of how Tris was questioning Cook on Post#357, 539. A scum partner would not reiterate contrived questioning. Also, I don't believe Cook was talking to his scum partner all day here.
- Post#1025 looks like she's trying to draw the NK away from me by suggesting I could be bussing. If she expresses that sentiment tomorrow, she's likely town.

Andres:
- Cook participated in flashwagoning of him in Post#696. Also Andres was the counter wagon to Cook at that moment.
- His vote on Post#921 was decisive to getting cook lynched.

Lotus:
- Post#381, Post#528 defense of Jim is quite good, considering Cook is on Jim's wagon.
- Also really liked his analysis from an uninformed perspective. His place on the Cook wagon is well-developed and justified.

Flea:
- Cook's Post#530 generating conspiracy theory likely on a town slot.
- Stream of thought is somewhat towny. But should check on whether this person has done something like that before as scum.

Facebones:
- Cook's Post#651 shading Facebones

SCUM:

Egix:
- Haven't done much.
- a little bit scummy for being on vanity wagon.

Geraint:
- Haven't done much at all. I have him down here because of Andres.

dkkoba:
- Cook unvote of dkkoba on Post#59 after a slight shade, it's rather textbook distancing behavior.
- Post#382, derailing Cook's wagon to start a flash wagon on an inactive slot. My interpretation is dk tried to take advantage of Lotus replacing in and trying to sort out his read.
- Post#388 spinning up a conspiracy theory of Jim when Cook is being wagoned. This could be what I was talking about when I said there is consider resistance to Cook's wagon despite his scumminess.
- Contrived "I liked his reply" when Cook's reply to dk's question was a hanging "one second" on Post#352.
- Consistent defense of Cook as limbait in Post#835, Post#842, Post#876, then chainsawing me like maddog when the Cook wagon was stale at that particular moment. This shows hyper-awareness of the possibility of a buddy getting the ropes.
- Complete ficticious reasoning to get Andres to vote me as I outlined Post#918.
- There is possible reason for dk-town though. From Cook's Post#199, it looks like Esoa vs dk is really TvT (since he's asking Andres how does Andres know it's TvT).

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So my solve is Cook + dk + (Geraint/Egix). I'm pretty confident this is right.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #33) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:57 pm

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Like I can certainly see a scenario in which dk is town and is just really bad, but unfortunately for him there's a lot of townish people in this game.

On another note, Cook flipped roleblocker, so there's definitely some other targeting town PR out there who can benefit from this.
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Post Post #94 (isolation #34) » Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:00 pm

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Oh on that off chance that none of us die, I definitely want to try that fruit vendor strat
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Post Post #100 (isolation #35) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:15 am

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So do you wanna be the FFV or what?
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Post Post #101 (isolation #36) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:13 am

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I think if either Jim or me flip mason, the other is already pretty confirmed mason and we don't have to bread-crumb or do anything else. The only thing we should be concerned about is linking Jim and me to Zuko
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Post Post #102 (isolation #37) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:17 am

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Also something I didn't notice. dk said this in twilight:

"if scum targeting gerain
if town targeting jim"

What do you guys think this is? A cop claim? Drawing NKs?
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Post Post #103 (isolation #38) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:44 am

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WOW that was unexpected :( Poor Zuko, we have to avenge him
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Post Post #106 (isolation #39) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:40 pm

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Ok we can't do the fruit thing.

Jim don't claim mason. I will drop a very definitely mason breadcrumb with you before today ends.

I think right now everybody assumes there are two masons. You might be important in later parts of the claim as a clear.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #40) » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:49 am

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The biggest evidence for this is just how dkkoba tried to derail Cook's wagon on multiple occasions and tried to push me and
Jim
. The fakeclaims are anti-town but they are null and there's not really evidence which alignment it
is
. I'm pretty confident of my read here, which is also backed by zuko, the other
mason
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Also the assumption is that the number of scum in a normal game with 13 players is
3
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Post Post #109 (isolation #41) » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 pm

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That’s the breadcrumb you can show to prove you’re mason number 3
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Post Post #112 (isolation #42) » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:52 pm

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Hey I’m just baffled that dk flipped town after having consistently tried to overturn scum wagon. Dk thought bug and facebones are scum. I thought facebone’s interactions around the dk wagon was scummy so I’d go for facebones/gerain
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Post Post #115 (isolation #43) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:16 am

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I think it’s Flea here. I was hesitant to lynch facebones
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Post Post #117 (isolation #44) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:21 pm

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I’m still of the belief that scum is my town list so I don’t think gerain and egix is it. It might be Flea and Bug, insect scum team
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