Seventeen players square off in a game with a town Flavor Leaf stump and a mafia Hectic stump!
Confirmed single ball 13:4 town:scum
10 day day 1, 8 day dayphases after that, 2 day nights
Alignment will be based on a picking system consistent with previous Vs. games.
This is not a bastard game. There will be no mid-game alignment changes. There will be no beloved princess or governor. There will be no mafia traitor. There may be some "large theme swing" mechanics including additional scum killing power under certain conditions. Additionally this game will be using many, but not all, of the Booneytoonz Guidelines and will have a lot of confirmed information about plausible mechanical roles. That being said, there may be an unusually large number of red herrings as well.
The scum faction will have daytalk and discord servers if desired.
FLIPS
Spoiler:
Day 1 Dannflor,
ODD-NIGHT NEIGHBORIZER, EVEN-NIGHT JACK OF ALL TRADES
reminder note: replacement list coding should look like -- NicoRobin:jjh927,Taly:Creature
Deadlist should look like: Titus-2,CheekyTeeky-3,Furret und Woopers-5,Shiro-6,Pink Ball-7,Auro-8
Spoiler: VoteCount Settings
priorVCNumber=0
url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85656
playerList=Chara,catboi,RCEnigma,unwnd,skitter30,Firebringer,Dannflor,chkflip,Lunar Martian,Hopkirk,Starcrossed{PookyTheMagicalBear+Kanna},Xtoxm,Titus,Morning Tweet{Tweetie},Ydrasse,Venus Mars and Pluto{Nancy Drew 39+Auro+Shiro},Gamma Emerald,Flavor Leaf/t/,Hectic/t/
replacementList=Gamma Emerald:Glory and Mel
moderatorNames=Krazy,Jingle
dayStartNumbers=0,2522,4017,6365,7453,7997
cleanDay=true
deadline=(expired on 2021-02-19 20:57:25)
deadList=chkflip-1,RCEnigma-2,Firebringer-3,unwnd-4,Hopkirk-5
flavor=
voteOverrides=
There will be two treestumps: One town and one scum. These players are decided presignups and indicated in the signup title.
Seventeen players will /in.
This game has wisdom of the stumps and mod due to the drafting mechanics.
13 players will be town and 4 will be group scum. There are no third parties or traitors.
Creating the Teams
The Masonry
The Town stump picks how many masons they want up to three.
For each mason the town stump doesn't pick, they get a one shot normal role of their choice with any normal modifier. Both treestumps are ascetic and unkillable.
Once the town stump has determined how many masons they want, they submit a list of that many players plus four. (Ex: If the stump picked three masons, the stump would submit seven names.) This will be their mason pool.
The moderator(s) will take this list and remove the scumteam.
The moderator(s) will then randomize the remaining names to determine the masons.
These player(s) will then get a private PT with the town treestump.
Drafting the Scumteam
It's strongly recommended that the scum treestump have discord, skype, or be willing to use site chat to draft their scumteam.
From the list of 17 players, the moderators say two players who cannot be scum.
The scum treestump drafts a player.
The moderator(s) then determine two players who cannot be scum.
The scum drafter picks again.
Two more get removed.
This continues until the scum team is filed.
The scum and their stump have a PT.
Creating the setup
Once the scumteam has their players, the scum treestump creates their team's roles.
The scumteam can pick most anything they want, and the moderators balance town around their pick.
The scumstump may also submit two rules the moderators must follow when designing the setup. (Ex: No cops/gunsmiths, All town must be joats). Any broken rules will be rejected.
The scumteam may not pick any alignment changing roles or any roles that automatically tell them who the masons are. Any gamebreakingly OP scum roles will be rejected.
Once the scumteam has their roles and the masons are determined, the moderators design the setup within 48 hours.
Balance is strived for but not guaranteed.
The moderators may create new roles or mechanics to create a fun setup.
Spoiler: Boilerplate Rules
The Boilerplate Rules
General
1. This game uses sitewide rules: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6470
1a. Do not private message other users about anything having to do with this game in any circumstance even/especially if you are dead/have replaced out/are spectating/etc. If you even think it might be a grey area, it is not a grey area, it is not ok. This includes informal conversations on discord. Do not refer indirectly to game events in this game until the game is complete, including in signatures, signup threads, or anywhere else. Do not refer to statements made in this game in this game in other games.
2. No reference, whatsoever, should be made about other ongoing games. Ever. Not directly, not indirectly, not at all. -- https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=30908
Respect
1. Be nicer to other people than they are to you. Attack the play not the player.
1a.
Replace outs will only be accepted by Private Message, not in game. If you are replacing out, do not discuss this in thread until it is confirmed with the moderator. Players cannot cancel replacement requests, even if a replacement has not been found. PMing the moderator that you wish or need to replace out will be taken as final. Once you have made that PM, please do not continue to post in the game thread.
Assume good faith for replace-outs. If you replace out, please do not comment directly or indirectly about the game in other sections of the site including the queue and/or your signature. This falls into the broad umbrella of "outside influence."
1b. Please do not ask other players to replace out, discourage them from playing the game, or otherwise create a hostile gaming environment. This is now also a sitewide rule.
2.
Play to win.
2a.
You must read your role pm, and confirm that you understand your role.
2b.
Do not state, whether honest or false, that you have not read your role pm
in-thread. If I somehow forget to send you a role pm or send you multiple role pms, please contact me
by pm
.
2c. You can claim scum, and you can claim scum with someone else provided that the moderator can reasonably suspect non-malicious motives behind such.
2d. Scum can night kill their teammates, but I must see evidence that such a move is not game-throwing.
2e. Do not say or imply that you have not been reading the thread. If you need time to catch up, you can say this.
3.
Avoid using the plain spoiler (blackout tag). Use spoiler= instead!
This is wrong.
4.
Videos and animated Gifs can be posted in the main thread, but please try to keep it within reason. Do not try to break the site or make the thread unreadable to mobile users.
5. Cryptography and other forms of codes are generally not allowed. Breadcrumbs are generally okay.
6.
Constant off-topic posting will not be tolerated.
7.
Provable randomness is strongly discouraged.
In particular, do not use the dice tag.
8. Hydras -- Hydras must sign posts according to their requested handle, decided day 1 or pre-game. You are welcome to post an ego post on your main. Hydra slips will not result in warnings, although you should not treat your main as your head of the hydra. Personally, I think there is no need to quote hydra slips on the hydra account, although I won't stop you from doing this either.
9. Please try to make the game at least relatively mobile friendly. On that note, please try not to quote large chunks of embedded quote chains for short replies--if you are really just referring to the last thing someone said, just say @playername and then reply rather than quoting a large quote chain for another short reply.
Honor
1. Do not attempt to impersonate the moderator.
Purple is my color, but you may use it as long as you are not attempting to impersonate me with it.
Note I don't actually edit in replies all that often. I also often just write replies using normal text.
2. Do not edit or delete your post if for some reason you have the ability to do so. This includes on any related discord server.
3.
Do not attempt to get the moderator to influence the game.
This rule does not refer to day abilities, if any exist, that are stated in your role PM. Please refrain from asking too many questions of the moderator about roleclaims unless absolutely necessary.
4a. PM me regarding VC related questions; V/LA can be declared in thread.
4b.
Do not discuss any disciplinary actions that the moderator takes in-thread.
4c. If there is a declared day action, you can ask the moderator to confirm that day actions have resolved, rather than waiting only for the next Vote Count. If the day action was fake, or if the day action was real but failed, either way the stated moderator response will be: "All pending day actions have resolved."
5.
Trust tells are prohibited.
5a.
Do not replace out in such a manner as to confirm your alignment.
6.
Do not quote or copy-paste moderator communications and other forms of private communications (exception to this -- scum can post their role pms in the scum pt). -- While you can copy/paste communication from hydra discord servers, you should make sure that the text is converted to plain text, and especially that all embedded hyperlinks to player names are removed. Please do not enable timestamps either.
6a. Post links to anything except the main thread, timestamps, and read statuses should never be referenced in the game thread.
Access list numbers in private topics are also covered by this rule.
6b. You may directly copy-paste
unflavored night action results
(usually in bold) as well as your alignment, flip role, and effective role from your role pm, but
do not directly quote them
.
6c. Confirmed same-alignment players can quote their role PMs in their private topics (i.e. masons).
6d. Do not quote your hydra PT in the game thread or include embedded links to your hydra PT in the game thread. You can copy and paste text from your hydra PT so long as it is plain text and does not include links to any posts in the hydra PT.
7. No Bah! posts.
Miscellaneous
1. Follow the spirit of the rules.
1a.
Do not attempt to find loopholes in the ruleset.
1b. While the moderator will generally assume good-faith, action can be taken against inadvertent rule breaks if deemed necessary.
2.
All PTs will be released within 24 hours of the game's conclusion.
Players in any thread except the Dead PT may request redactions at any time
before
I release the PT. The dead thread is released immediately on the conclusion of the game.
3. The moderator reserves the right to update this ruleset as necessary.
New items will be underlined
, and
deleted items will be striked through.
(Note: The markup on this line is an example.)
Setup-Specific Rules
Activity and Deadline Rules
1. Day one lasts 10 days, other day phases will last 8 days. Nights last 24 hours.
2.
Nights may be extended if a replacement is needed.
There will be a minimum of 24 hours between the time a replacement is found and when night actions are due.
3. You will be prodded after
48 hours
of inactivity; this does not change on weekends. All prods should be responded to
in-thread unless the thread is locked in which case pm is acceptable.
4. 2 prod dodges are equivalent to a single prod. If you are prodded again from prod-dodging, you may not prod dodge. Prodges must still include some game content: "Krazy is still scum", "Krazy is still town," and "I like this wagon" are good enough for a prodge. While a subjective rule, prod dodges are objectively defined as posts that consist of little or no content related to the game with the sole purpose of avoiding prodding. Minimum content is not defined here as to mitigate abuse, but do realize that this rule is applied as objectively as possible.
5.
V/LAs should generally be announced in-thread, not by pm.
You should also set V/LA in the User CP to make sure I do not forget.
6. If you have
regular weekend V/LA
, it is
your responsibility
to either inform me at the end of
each week
or to remember to set V/LA status.
7.
V/LA players must post at least once every 96 hours.
Excessively long V/LAs (
14 days or longer
) may have stricter requirements imposed on them.
8. I reserve the right to warn and replace players whom I believe are exploiting loopholes in the activity rules. Please note that players are expected to do more than the bare minimum as outlined by these prodding rules. I reserve the right to warn and/or replace players whom I believe are exploiting loopholes in the activity rules, or are otherwise not treating the game as the commitment they signed up for.
Voting, FLIPPING, and Twilight Rules
To vote, use
Vote: Player
or VOTE: Player.
To unvote, use
Unvote: Player
or UNVOTE: Player.
You do not have to unvote to change votes.
Furthermore, I will only track the last *valid* vote in your post.
Vote Conspiracy
will not change your existing vote.
Player abbreviations are allowed, although it must be *obvious* who your abbreviation refers to -- to the vote counter, preferably. If your vote is not being caught by the vote counter scrubber, I may edit your post.
Hammer occurs when votes equal to half of all living players (rounded down) plus one cast a vote against the same player (or No Flip). All votes after a hammer will not be counted, and the hammered player is the one who will flip. The time following a hammer is Twilight, and all players may continue talking.
No FLIP will occur if deadline is reached without a hammer.
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Night actions will resolve first. After all conventional night actions have resolved, movement will occur.
Movement will occur in the order of the playerlist.
I.e.
Player 1: Does nothing.
Player 2: Moves down one.
Player 3: Moves up one.
Would have Player 2 move down one first, which would go to-->
Player 1 (Did nothing)
Player 3 (Will move up one next)
Player 2 (Movement complete)
And then would have player 3 move up one, which would go to-->
Player 3 (Moved up one)
Player 1 (Did nothing)
Player 2 (Moved down one)
As the final result of movement.
Note --
Pregame order is:
-Signups / initial design phase
-Picking Phase
-Finish Redesign
-Scum team allocation of roles
-Randomize initial player order list
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Miller, Super Saint, Vigilante, Vengeful, Ascetic, Babysitter, Bodyguard, Bunyip, Commuter, Cop, Detective, Doctor, Follower, Fruit Vendor, Gunsmith, Hider, Inventor, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Lover, Messenger, Motion Detector, Multitasking, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Psychologist, PT Cop, Roleblocker, Rolecop, Rolestopper, Tracker, Traffic Analyst, Universal Backup, Vanilla Cop, Visitor, Voyeur, Watcher, Willbooster
Modifiers
Activate,Announcing, Ascetic, Backup, Bulletproof, Complex, Combined, Desperate, Enabler, Informed, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Weak, X-Shot, Ninja, Compulsive, Loyal, Disloyal, Loud, Recharged, Reflexive, Simple, Split, Strongman, Night Specific (Any form, Even/Odd/Novice included) [this will be updated soon]
NEW and MODIFIED Modifiers
These modifiers are not 'boon bank' even though they are distinct to this setup, and can be used in any number of other roles.
Right side up: Your targeted night actions can only target those above you in the player list.
Upside down: Your targeted night actions can only target those below you in the player list.
Non-adjacent: Your targeted night actions can only target those that are not adjacent to you in the player list.
Adjacent: Your targeted night actions can only target those that are adjacent to you in the player list.
Magical: If your target is "away from town" or "in another universe", your action will still succeed, and you will allow all other actions performed on your target to succeed, even if it would normally fail from modifiers such as "Disloyal".
*There can be flavor adjustments to any of the above roles without it counting as a variant.
(¯`·._.·(¯`·._.·(¯`·._.· Boon Bank ·._.·´¯)·._.·´¯)·._.·´¯)
Symbiotic
Spoiler:
Enchantress
Spoiler:
StickyFruit Vendor
Spoiler:
Renegade
Spoiler:
Archaeologist:
Credit: Something_Smart
Spoiler:
Each night, you will passively target each player who dies that night. You will get a complete list of all actions they took that night and all previous nights, and who was targeted by that action. (This is very strong but can be nerfed several way: limited-shot active ability, allowing them to see only actions taken in the same night, forcing them to target a player who died in a previous night instead of auto-targeting.)
Disabler:
Credit: Something_Smart
Spoiler:
Any action targeting you at night cannot be used the next night-- players are informed of this as soon as it occurs (but the Disabler is never informed). Can affect the factional kill. (Optional: make this a targeted active ability instead)
In post 1043, Flavor Leaf wrote:Not gonna lie, I totally tried to go with 0 Masons this game, and stack myself with abilities, but Krazy said I couldn't do that.
No I said you couldn't have one of those abilities be a multitasking split 16-shot strongman vigilante
As a general rule reminder, please keep thoughts about whether you need to replace out, or may need to replace out, out of the game thread. This is not a specific warning, just a reminder for everyone. I do appreciate that this game moved very fast and people are free to vent about the pace if they need to.
Although I personally find the gimmick hilarious, I probably need to ask the stumps to discontinue the use of any alts that actively impersonate players in the game thread. It was funny while it lasted but the meme has now run its course.
The stump votes are included on vote counts to see where they indicated they would like people to vote, but they do not count for numbers or majority. So the line where stumps are voting will always have one extra name (3 voters but only 2 votes counting, etc.)
I'll go ahead and set up a hydra key if people are going to be signing using hydra-specific names. @Starcrossed if you can PM me the both-heads key I'll add it to page 1. @V/M/P if you could sign more often and make it clearer which heads sign less frequently that would help too.
It is now night 1! Please send in night actions within (expired on 2021-01-22 00:24:09)! THERE WILL BE NO REMINDER TO SEND IN WALKIES, and if you forget I will just assume you're not moving.
Questions about mech should be asked by pm and cannot refer to player names, and I cannot answer questions about how unflipped players roles would interact mechanically.
Walkies Resolution, Night 2 -- This is the new mechanical order of players:
Hopkirk
skitter30
RCEnigma
unwnd
Morning Tweet
Gamma Emerald
Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra)
Flavor Leaf
Chara
Ydrasse
catboi
Xtoxm
Hectic
Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro)
Firebringer
Lunar Martian
It is now NIGHT 2. You have (expired on 2021-01-28 13:50:06) to send in night actions! As always there will be no reminder to send in Walkies so if you don't submit them, you're not moving!
