Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

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Hello i am a conditional miller: i will appear to be scum if checked by an alignment cop who is below me in the pl. (And since i'm number 2, that's nearly everyone)

i am regularly vla on fridays and Saturdays

VOTE: fire

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That would be fun, but alas. I am town in this game

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Indeed

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Actually i can kinda see hectic picking pooky's hydra tbh

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Who here *hasnt* really played with hectic?

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Ya that's what i was thinking. Scum stump prob picks someone thwy vibe well with and someone who they have a good sense of ehat their scumgame looks like

As far as i know, you wouldn't have that with unwnd or like xtoxm, and maybe a couple of other peeps

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Pooky i think hectic picks u in many universes tbh

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VOTE: starcrossed
It is pooky posting, right?

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Wait why am i town lol

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Scum!fl does lol

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Wait why am i town lol

ur already trying to figure out who hectic would pick i thought it was townie.

Ehhhhhhhhh i think ur townreading me too easily

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Hmmm? What abt?

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Hello rce!!!!!!! I have missed u

Pedit i mean i agree the odds that scum!me claims miller in my first post are super small but i still dont think either of u ought to townread me for the reasons ur giving

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Ehhhhh it depends who

But early scumreads on both fire and pooky (maybe rce too?)
And no townreads yet i think but unwnd and xtoxm are less likely ti be scum by virtue of existing

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why pooky?

I have not disliked their posting so far

Idk he feels weird
Dont know how to explain yet

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Ya that's what i was thinking. Scum stump prob picks someone thwy vibe well with and someone who they have a good sense of ehat their scumgame looks like

As far as i know, you wouldn't have that with unwnd or like xtoxm, and maybe a couple of other peeps

[skitter30]

Lets play happy fun nontoxic mafia

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Then i would have been picked :p

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I liked cats stance on skitter. My first thought was a gambit to get FL to use his hug early, so cat keeping the claim at a distance was good.

But in true cat fashion they bit the hand that feeds q.q

I dont get it
How is it a gambit to get fl to use his hig early?

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But why would i do that as either alignment ...

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Chara!!!!!! Hello!!!!!

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I mean ok ig?

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Chara!!!!!! Hello!!!!!

hello skitter!!! so happy to play with you again.

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yknow I like the crackpot theory from RCE

Meh, I'm not sure I buy someone actually thinking something so implausible.

^^

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Well I would have to assume scum roles centered around player list positioning. It would be like... A long term thing, maybe.

that's interesting

so maybe instead of conditional miller, skitter is actually a conditional godfather?

I do not like this thought
(Before anyone says thats cuz its abt me, its not)

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Man that's gonna be confusing
Pooky i am sad because i think u are scum

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I am only sad within the context of the game <3
But u r scum i think

But we shall be friends despite this sudden and awful betrayal

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Always ydrasse <3

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Mt!!!!!! This pl makes me so happy

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Ydrasse is town

Pedit i would not be surprised if there were many millers

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So my first thoughts are Hectic's most obvious choices for the scum team would have been Ydrasse, Hopkirk, Skitter.

Skitter claimed Miller, and that's great because here's the thing: I did not take 3 masons, and because of that I have a Role Cop ability, so I'll be able to confirm if she's miller or not.

my role name is technically 'upside down miller', presumably the upside down bit is the part where only someone below me in the pl can check me

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And i'm flattered that u think i'd be pick #3

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So my first thoughts are Hectic's most obvious choices for the scum team would have been Ydrasse, Hopkirk, Skitter.

Skitter claimed Miller, and that's great because here's the thing: I did not take 3 masons, and because of that I have a Role Cop ability, so I'll be able to confirm if she's miller or not.

my role name is technically 'upside down miller', presumably the upside down bit is the part where only someone below me in the pl can check me

I misspoke: anyone can check me, a cop who checks me would have to be below me to get a scum result to clarify

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Any Alignment
Miller

on the topic of mafia millers

Also ya in booneytoonz iirc there can be scum millers, shame on u fl for not remembering

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I think so? Its in one of the first posts in the op and i think that's right

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Pretty sure that's only in KrazyToonz. I don't do scum Millers.

Oh fair enuf. I read it in the op and it looked like it was part of ur fancy ruleset, didnt realize there were modifications

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Y mt

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I'M MOTHAFUCKINCONFTOWNBOON

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y dannfloor? i think unwnd is town
i don't have ai thoughts on chara

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i don't remember it tbh

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pooky is scum

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don't have a read on tweet

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fwiw rce is probably in my 'ehhhhhhh i don't think hectic knows him well enough to pick him' pool

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chara tbh i'm getting some scummy vibes from too
i do'nt really have many townreads, which is sad

pedit i don't fully remember how the mechanics work ... couldn't he just have been randomized to not be your mason? i don't think it proves him scum. i was expecting that you'd have picked him tbh

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it's ok nothing important happened in the last 20 pages, just chill on the latest page and you will be fine.

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aside i have thoughts on who fl probably picks but that is probably not things i should be saying here at this time

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oh right i do actually have townvibes on catboi, i forgot

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i'm not actually sure i'm that high on hectic's list tbf
i imagine i'd be pretty high on your list tho

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skitter: breaking my heart over here.

y tho
y are you scumreading mt?

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...

i don't think 'diving into actual play pretty enthusiastically' is something tweetie should be scumread for?
i don't get it

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cuz hectic probably doesn't pick him ....
indepedantly of that i think the like three posts they're written are probably +town

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VOTE: chara

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i don't think 'diving into actual play pretty enthusiastically' is something tweetie should be scumread for?
i don't get it

you don't think scum would see the fluff fest this game is and think that starting by actually playing mafia is the best idea? it's what i would have done.

not like she's the only one, but based on Tweet's playstyle i thought she'd be a good slot to start looking at.

no? i think that scum see the fluff fest this game and contribute to it and try to keep it ongoing. i'm not sure why you think scum wouuld deliberately try to post real content in that environment

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you think that all the scum decide to do that? you don't think any of them make the decision to play a better longgame?
i'm surprised you think the idea is so unlikely, frankly.

i kinda doubt that most scum see the fluff fest that was happening within the first few hours of the thread being open and think 'huh i can set myself up longterm by posting real content now' instead of just joining the fluff test

i just ... don't think this is very likely or a good reason to prod tweetie :/

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Skitter that post you made above was actually pretty good

I'm worried you're scum though! There were some big pings I had earlier

which post!
and which pings!

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i have no idea of Tweet's scum meta. maybe she is the type of nervous scum who takes refuge in a town largely fluffposting. but without that context, it's bothering me that skitter, moreso than thinking Tweet wasn't doing that, rather takes issue with the idea that there might be scum deliberately going for the easy towncred.

also sorry Fire, i didn't see your return. :>

pedit: ehhh. i really don't agree, with the notion that scum wouldn't care about making a strong entry into the game, or that prodding Tweet on a scum ping would be a bad idea.

irregardless of her scum meta i think that nearly all scum choose to join the fluff fest there
and that it's a bit townie for people who instead chose to try to move the game along

i'm not saying that proddign tweet is a bad idea inherently so much as i think that the reasoning for this push is quite questionable

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The ones about Pooky being scum kinda

I feel I just disagree, I legitimately believe that he is trying to be scummy as town

Insane I know but true, felt like you were pushing the wrong narrative against my own

i still think he's being scummy

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wait you don't even have scum meta on her and you're scumreading her for that
ok then

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loosely +town but not a strong read really. just like gutpings. wouldn't bet the game on it or anything
fl how u reading me btw?

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you kept circling back to it and acted like you thought it was a real read, and it just doesn't seem like a real thought to me
i don't think you were particularly trying to get tweetie limmed off of it

pedit fair enuf
just surprised we got to this point this early tbh

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you kept circling back to it and acted like you thought it was a real read, and it just doesn't seem like a real thought to me
i don't think you were particularly trying to get tweetie limmed off of it

pedit fair enuf
just surprised we got to this point this early tbh

Same.

who knew the day would ever come!!!!

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As for skitts' replies, I actually do think i'd find it generally easier to create reads and content as scum than to mess around as town, cause im a lot more concerned with how i come off as scum -- and being overly fluffy can come off as scum mucking about

ig fair enough. i still don't like chara's read

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Because we always argue Day 1. I think if we lived until like Day 3, it'd happen.

i know that's why i'm surprised we have achieved such a zen state of existance at thsi point in day1 lol

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i mean if he were scared i imagine he doesn't agree to this game lol

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i don't *think* that well? but i'm not sure. not enough that i'd say they were unlikely to be picked for that reason, if that makes sense

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i think in a similar spot as auro but again woudln't like form a read off of that

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i think in a similar spot as auro but again woudln't like form a read off of that

I don't believe you are.

?

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no i was talking about titus, not abt myself
that's why i was confused

i think i'm more likley to be picked than auro, but perhaps not as high as you think i am in this pl

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skitter pinged in her response but i'm having a hard time articulating why, something about how her response was straightforwardly correct but failing to account for general weirdness in different players having different mindsets about what is plausible/pushable. just seemed very by the book.

i still don't think scum start this game that way
i think they join the general scumfest

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* general flufftest

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the other thing bugging me about skitter is how much she's been focusing on FL so far. that read is a little dependent on how much skitter's townplay relies on finding obvtown/conftown and trying to work with them.

?

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yes ....
it seems really obvious to me that scum would want to fluff over posting content

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chara i like exactly nothing of what you're saying rn

and i'm mostly surprised that fl is townreading me here because of [redacted] and i can't elaborate

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tbf chara didn't actually say that i'd enjoy it but i don't like how it's positioning me rn

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yes ....
it seems really obvious to me that scum would want to fluff over posting content

i feel like this avenue isn't going to lead to any more useful discussion than it has, so let's move on. it seems obvious to

me

that any player who is comfortable as scum might be just fine posting easy earlygame content as they are fluffposting.

i mean i dropped it several pages back, you've kept asking me abt it

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i absolutely would not want to be
depending on the scumteam i might accept it if necessary but i wouldn't want to; contrary to popular belief i don't, like, actually enjoy deepwolfing for the msot part

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eh that was my second scumgame
and it's grown leaps and bounds since then (tm 2020 anyone?)
but i do usually try to plan in broad strokes who needs to go deep if possible, and in many pl's that's me, whether i want to particularly or not

either way i dislike the way chara is currently framing me

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the other thing bugging me about skitter is how much she's been focusing on FL so far. that read is a little dependent on how much skitter's townplay relies on finding obvtown/conftown and trying to work with them.

Every take you post just makes me more and more worried. I don't see skitter as having interacted overly with flavor leaf at all, I think she's spoken about a number of people and this feels like a misrepresentation of her play.

^^^^

pedit i disagree rn

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well rn i wanna start with chara, i don't have enuf content from ydrasse yet and i think chara's being actively scummy

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is it bizarre that i think mt/chara could be svs?

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i think i'll probably get a better read on skitter when she's not reacting to my scumread on her, i don't love her responses but there is a feeling that my own expectations are misaligned with how town skitter actually behaves + i think it's natural to have a negative opinion of a player with a wrong scumread of you

eh i agree that there are some universes where i'm scumreading you cuz i dislike your read on me and don't like it but if that's the case i probalby (?) need a little more distance to get out of it before i can rethink it

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is it bizarre that i think mt/chara could be svs?

skitter, i am sorry i tilted you so early.

it is ok
i dont' think i'm tilted, just rn everything you're saying feels scummy to me

but i am recognizing that maybe i am tunneled so i shall drop it for tonight and revisit like tomorrow or something

VOTE: starcrossed

i do think you're scummy but i shall try to take a step back for a bit and if i still think so in the morning i shall revote

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I actually think those were auro posts
They werent great tho

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I'm also starting to get suspicious that too many people are townreading me

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Its starting to feel that way for me

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Fire, fl (who tbf is a stump), chara, mt, and i think there was someone else

At least 2 of those i dont think really should be

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Fire's was significantly premature
(As was fl but, again, stump)

I dont get chara's progression really
And where mt landed after i moved my vote off of chara felt weird

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Like i'm not sure exactly what it is yet but there's something very fucky in the mt/chara interactions

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is it bizarre that i think mt/chara could be svs?

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I have been more than OK with them, and think the discussion you two had was quite telling for both of you. They seemed poised to defend their position instead of just entertaining the fact you disagreed? Like, that conversation didn't just happen because they felt pressured by your skepticism; they really wanted to

convince

you. Scum doesn't start trying to manipulate until danger presents itself and this is not a dangerous gamestate.

Idk
It's entirely possible that this is how i'm viewing it cuz i'm too close to the center of things to view this interaction objectively, but a lot of what chara was saying felt very off to me

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i have returned
i'm around for a bit and going to be reading up now

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If I'm scum? Why the fuck do I wanna be involved with that. I'm just gonna let that play out. Scum don't care about townie conversation unless it involves them or it involves their partners. I have no idea why Skitter thought Tweetie/Chara could be SvS because it would be extraordinary reaching from Chara. Elastic hands reaching. Nobody was really thinking about Tweetie since then. We were all about anime and good times around then. Didn't feel like distancing to me at all? I would love for Skitter to explain her thought further once she reads this tbh

i mean i'm not sure chara necessarily thought it would blow up as much as it did, and tweetie couldn't really ignore it, being the subject of the whole convo

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Early scum gutread on Starcrossed, I noted Skitter also scumreading them towards the beginning - do you still carry that scumread Skitter?

yes
and: hello auro!!!!!!

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townreading her this fast should be suspicious to her and I agree with her on it. Also I want to pocket skitter as town. Will be a lot of fun to do so.

@unwnd see the fire townread was too early
and yes being pocketed would be fun you have not yet done so tho!

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hopkirk as always i think your sense of humor is fantastic

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if that's supposed to be something i understand i do not lol

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right, i meant that's my point
chara i'm still on like p36 but i'm probably voting u again when i finish reading

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VOTE: Lunar Martian Nancy/Shiro hope you guys are OK with this, no backing out of the deal now

bad vote auro >:(

i scumread like 7 people and only townread like 3, it's a problem >.>

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The part where you ask to agree that no one would pick you.

Three-headed hydra containing Nancy and is an expected early NK?
I wouldn't pick us.

-Pluto (Auro)

?

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I don't think I've ever seen either of you guys get killed that early, Auro

Individually nah but as a three-headed hydra in a scum-drafted game, I expect us to.

-Pluto (Auro)

auro ... i kinda agree with fl here ... i don't think your slot is a super high priority nk here (no offense)
and i'm kinda confused that you'd think that

i'm not sure that scum try to hype up how likely it is for them to die early tho (as it'll be even more suspicious when they don't) but i don't think auro is usually this offbase either ...

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I’m here but I’m overgamed, stressed out, drained and exhausted. I forgot to eat all yesterday and my sleep schedule’s completely messed up, so don’t expect me to effort a lot in this game. Ydrasse is my #1 tr, even if she thinks I’m Auro.

<3 feel better

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ok i want to vote all of {rce, auro hydra, chara, starcrossed} and i only have the one vote, it's a problem

VOTE: chara

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i avoided it for a reason this year

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just don't have it in me these days to replicate last year's if i'd had rolled scum game

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it was so much work, it stopped being fun at some point
i did have all of {ank, tw, eddie, rc, nsg} townreading me at one point, which i still feel like is an accomplishmenet

did u do that last year? i don't remember

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ok i want to vote all of {rce, auro hydra, chara, starcrossed} and i only have the one vote, it's a problem

VOTE: chara

Chara and RCE are all good but you townread Tweetie here?

ehhhhhh i'm not sure how i'm reading her. i wouldn't say i townread her but i don't scumread her enuf to put her in that group

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ok i want to vote all of {rce, auro hydra, chara, starcrossed} and i only have the one vote, it's a problem

VOTE: chara

bad vote
that's the one slot I have sorted out of those and I TR it

i'm not sure i vibe that rn :/

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yeah i think so lol. i was in that one and scum with u in a hydra lol

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*i was in that one in a hydra, and we were scum with you to clarify

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it was so much work, it stopped being fun at some point
i did have all of {ank, tw, eddie, rc, nsg} townreading me at one point, which i still feel like is an accomplishmenet

did u do that last year? i don't remember

yeah, it was rough.

Maria and I had an insanely strong scum theatre where if 1 was scum, 1 was town, and in my pocketed neighborhood, I went "You should vote Ank, Maria"

lol <3
xtoxm actually knows how much i hated that game with every fiber of my being

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auro i think. i forgot volxen was in it

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Maria and I had an insanely strong scum theatre where if 1 was scum, 1 was town, and in my pocketed neighborhood, I went "You should vote Ank, Maria"

i'm p sure this is ultimately why my team won: it led to your game's scum loss and we were the only team with 4 winning games

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is auro or nancy posting rn ?

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Yeah, I specifically remembering looking at in a way where Xtoxm's team was going to benefit the most from it even.

nah ultimately my team did

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yes i read that.
i think i responded to it already: chara brought up the mt scumread, so couldn't just let it go when i challenged it. tweetie had to respond cuz it was abt her as well

what else would you like me to elaborate upon?

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chara do u have a read on me rn?

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VOTE: venus mars pluto

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VOTE: venus mars pluto

I was worried you were scum this game skitter

Sorry for thinking that earlier

hmmmmmm? i don't remember seeing u were thinking that earlier
and it's ok!

and chara i'm voting cuz auro felt scummy and i'm not sure if i'm still tunneled
(but i would like to reiterate u still feel very, very off to me)

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VOTE: venus mars pluto

I was worried you were scum this game skitter

Sorry for thinking that earlier

oh i got confused i thought nancy wrote that
you writing that makes so much more sense lol

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although i'm not following why that makes you think i'm scum per se

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since when were you townreading me ....
i don't remember your hydra giving a read on me at all

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as for the Gamma wagon: no, not particularly. it just doesn't feel like a significant enough occurrence to net useful sorting.

so many things you're saying just feel very off to me ....
i'm not sure why you think the gamma wagon isn't a useful place to look: i agree with catboi that there's p decent odds there's at least one scum there

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What do you think about this @Skitter? You think all 4 Gamma votes are town?

no, that's unlikely.

unwnd is probalby town
starcrossed i still scumread
i just spoke abt tweet.
i have no thoughts on dannfloor

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this post was in my other tab and i apparently never actually hti 'submit' so i'm submitting it now

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so find scum in them

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pooky felt scummy in the early few pages for me

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literally nobody is trying to convine you of that tho ...
i'm p sure multiple people are saying exactly what you're saying

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i'm also really confused why you're drawing a relationship between gamma and your wagon; the gamma wagon happeened like 30+ pages ago and has like nothing to do with your wagon as far as i can tell.

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so find scum in them

You’re the one voting town ffs!

you're just complaining that your wagon and gamma's wagon isn't all town. which isn't really helpful unless you can point to who you think is scum in that group.

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Probably one scum was on Gamma, otherwise how do you explain the sudden grotesque jump on me?

what does this mean exactly?

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again i don't think you pointing that out is inherently what prompted the wagon on you
and again if you're just saying you think there's scum in that, what, 7 names, that's not really super helpful if you're not gonna narrow it down and vote one of them

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VOTE: Skitter

No way you still think I’m scum here.

i'm not really sure what part is confusing + i didn't say i scumread you, i said i scumread auro

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Nancy, you know i wouldn't jump on you there as scum either, right? it'd instantly make you SR me.

One scum probably did vote Gamma and I got jumped on for pointing that out. So if I had any thoughts that I was wrong about that, the reaction to my pointing that out makes me think I’m not wrong.

again this isn't what happened, you already had two votes on you prior to that and i'm voting you because of auro ...
that leaves exactly unwnd's vote

pedit i know but she's acting like she can't believe i'm scumreading *her* head but i don't believe or said i did anywhere

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i don't have a read on u, and i'm ont good at reading you. i'd rather read your slot via reading auro, who i scumread
i never said i had any sort of read on ur head

pedit i know you have the same alignment

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i'm not good at reading nancy; i'd rather read the slot via auro

and yeah i kinda hate the 'there must be scum in the gamma and my voters!!!!1!' thing but then not really doing anything abt it

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Furthermore, when evidence is provided that the pairing of Gamma votes came at a very innocent time

They couldn't provide why they were actually malicious lol

tbf this bit is likely nai for her

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i don't remember the last game i played with scum!you and i don't think historically i'm particularly good at reading you. i'm p sure it's a read i try to outsource
i think i do, however, have a p decent sense for how town!auro approaches the game

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what was the last game i played with scum!you?

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because i think i can read auro better than i can read you?

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i'm not trying to tilt u or anything but i'm not super following why you think i need to read your slot on *your* head esp. when historically i don't think i'm great at reading you

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Just whether or not someone is scumreading/townreading them

Why am I supposed to think that's town

she does this as both alignments, it's not ai

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because, as i asked twice now, i'm not even sure what game you're referring to

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nancy, agian, you're not being run up for *you*:

two votes are i'm p sure from before you were even in the game
i'm voting you for auro
and i don't know why chk is voting u

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idk what TBoNTB is

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ok well i don't remember the game offhand, so i'm sorry but i can't use it to discuss my read on u here in relation to that one because i don't know what you're referring to

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i think she's actually arguing 'scum are scared that i'm abt to focus on them (i.e. by focusing on the gamma votes) so other scum are pressuring me in return', not that the same people in gamma is necessarily pushign her
( i don't agree with this argument but i think this is what she's trying to say)

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i mean it's p farfetched
and oh that one.
well tbf it was like six months ago and i've tried to block large portions of it out of my memory and you weren't, like, my main focus there shall we say

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right, but that's my point: i don't have a lot of experience with scum!you, so i think your expectation that i should very clearly see you are not scum here based on those games is not entirely a reasonable one
and that's why i'm not focusing on reading your head, and i want to read auro

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VOTE: chara

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it was so much work, it stopped being fun at some point
i did have all of {ank, tw, eddie, rc, nsg} townreading me at one point, which i still feel like is an accomplishmenet

did u do that last year? i don't remember

this does not sound fun to do

t'was not

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also starcrossed i think catboi is town

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y r so many people townreading me >.>

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xtoxm is pinging me as scum

also hi xtoxm!!!!!

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hi skitter!

r u scum again?

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aside, i kinda want to be a townstump in one of these games

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then we can flirt a lot! t'would be fun!

i kinda want to vote xtoxm too now :/

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Idk his entrance feels like what i would expect ti see of scum!him

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I was scum with him in the normal of last year's team mafia and it was similarly spammy (although tbf significantly more toxic) and he was easiest the lowedt poster and he would make occasional popins that looked exactly like that

Iirc i might have a towngame with

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Ahhhhh didnt finish the thought:

I might have a towngame with him too but i dont remember it. So maybe he posts like that as town too. But i've def seen him play in a similar fashion as scum

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Eh i forgot abt corporate boontrigue
I retract what i said abt xtoxm, apologies

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<3

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<3

I was scum with him in the normal of last year's team mafia and it was similarly spammy (although tbf significantly more toxic) and he was easiest the lowedt poster and he would make occasional popins that looked exactly like that

Iirc i might have a towngame with

wait which of my scumgames is this similar to then?

?

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VOTE: dannfloor

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Oh
Idk if this looks like ny of ur scumgames so much as u feel weird

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Ydrasse - Weak town
Gamma Emerald - Not memorable, but FL says town
Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro) - Lean scum, no real presence of Nancy/Shiro. No cookies.
Morning Tweet - Can be town
Titus - Me
Xtoxm - No presence
Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra) - Odd, weak scumlean but FL has a point of everyone SRing the slot
Hopkirk - Weak town
Lunar Martian - Needs more
chkflip - When will he arrive?
Dannflor - Weak town, stronger opening but fell off
Firebringer - Town
skitter30 - Town miller
unwnd - Town voting them upon request
RCEnigma - Weak scum
catboiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii - Weak scum
Chara - Null

I tried to give a read on everyone. I want to get myself moving. Nothing's really strong though.

Still on same page stuff but Titus this reads list freaks me out a tiny bit. Mostly because you've played with me multiple times before and what the hell where on earth did you get that I had a strong opening from?

I don't even remember any of my own posts this game which is not a great sign!! So I'm just curious what exactly gave you strong vibes from me especially since you know I can do the surface level town stuff to at least some extent as scum.

And given I have no memory of my own posts and I was phone posting the whole time I doubt I did much more than poke at surface level stuff that caught my eye at the time

Also another point, I don't understand why you're doing this readslist. You have everyone at weak-something or null and some of these, like my read or the read on Starcrossed (which just says "odd" with no elaboration?) seem a bit like you're just tossing stuff out there. Which is fine if you're trying to get yourself going but I'm also not seeing you use this as a springboard to go in any specific direction. Like you're not trying to dig into why I "fell off," or what is odd about Starcrossed and why everyone seems to scum read them. You're just kinda throwing out what I can assume are fairly luke-warm takes and leaving it at that.

maybe you'll get more productive but this empty spinning-wheels sorta thing isn't the type of content I expect from you even to "get yourself started"

dann this post is weird and feels scummy to me :/

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fl i think catboi is towm

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I USE THE DANNFLOR PREVIOUS FOR MISELIM. HE SAME HE NO SCUMBUTT

VOTE: UNWND

THIS WAGON MAYBE BEST MAYBE SMELLS OF THE DOG

CARTOONS YOU CRAZY

uwndn is town

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fl i think catboi is towm

more proof why catboi is a great pick :3

he's very very clearly trying to solve the game

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He’s not a top tr and I really didn’t understand why he said what he did about the Titus’ readslist but I don’t understand why you’re necessarily sr him for it.

the whole post feels kinda fake and like 'not a real thought' so to speak

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he's very very clearly trying to solve the game

another reason why he's a great scumpick for hectic !

no i'm p sure it just makes him town

uwndn is town

PROOF IT BUBBA

honestly this one is more tonal but he feels really town to me too

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i kinda maybe take back my pooky scumread, he might (?) be town too

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naw i'm always allowed to gloat when i['m right

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hectic i think

pedit but when i type / text i always make those smileys. they're just rendered weirdly on this forum :/

pedit2 fair

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oh good idea! i will do that!

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yay :)

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Ydrasse - town?
Gamma Emerald - town?
Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro) - scum?
Morning Tweet - idk lean scum
Titus - null
Xtoxm - null
Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra) idk lean town
Hopkirk - town?
Lunar Martian - town?
chkflip - town???
Dannflor - scum?
Firebringer - town? not sure
skitter30 - shining beacon of towniness
unwnd - town
RCEnigma - idk
catboiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii - town
Chara - scum?

that's where i'm at

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chara i hope it goes well <3

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man i just really like all the happy vibes in this thread :)

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again, i think i'd have better luck reading your slot on auro and i do not yet townread him
when he's online i'd like to chat with him tho :)

pedit ah sorry i'll change how i do that in the future

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pooky do u remember that time we played catboi and he was town? i think he's playing the same way here

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unwnd just letting u know that's kinda just how she approaches the game and it's utterly nai

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ok
why have his recent posts been town indicative for him?

i think that catboi might look like surface-level flipbait-y a bit (or kinda? like he's on a different wavelength) but i think he's earnestly trying to sort the game so i townread him

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ok
why have his recent posts been town indicative for him?

i think that catboi might look like surface-level flipbait-y a bit (or kinda? like he's on a different wavelength) but i think he's earnestly trying to sort the game so i townread him

thanks. for whatever reason i liked his post talking about how pooky's read on him didn't feel real. it's possible it's just because it reminded me of the last game i played with the two of them, where kitty was town.

is he usually a little flipbaity? my impression of catboi was that he's making sense but not really in a way that feels towny to me, but depending on the player that thought could be crap.

from the last game he was on a different wavelength iirc and he was pushed for it
here he's on a different wavelength also and i feel like he's getting pushed for but like he's kinda being super townie imo so i don't really want him to be pushed

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All of these posts are town indicative for Auro.

i'm not sure i see it?

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pooky do u remember that time we played catboi and he was town? i think he's playing the same way here

I don't believe we've played before? I played with Pooky in Chara's Folly and that was it. Well, there was also a marathon game where I was scum but it was a screwy 4 person Ircher setup so I don't think it really counts for anything.

was on a SeCrEt HyDrA
which now that i think abt it wasn't with pooky, it was the other SeCrEt HyDrA i played this year i think
with the other partner in this game too and they probably don't care if i burn it at this point lol

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ok
why have his recent posts been town indicative for him?

i think that catboi might look like surface-level flipbait-y a bit (or kinda? like he's on a different wavelength) but i think he's earnestly trying to sort the game so i townread him

Auro approaches the game very differently from me. He usually starts off by trying to look scummy to see who jumps on him so he can make good reads. He did that in PA but no one noticed because I was posting more from the getgo, so no one was paying much attention to his posts but that is how he approaches games as town.

ok fair enuf
but when he's around i'd like to chat with him plz :)

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i am not vanilla but i also claimed in my first post

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Venus is actively avoiding claiming Vanilla or Not Vanilla.

Venus and Skitter 100% confirmed have scum in them.

good to know!

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Oh wait, the upick? oh god. I hate even thinking about that game

no not a upick
although i just took a quick look and apparently i wasn't townreading you through most of it at the time as strongly as i remember townreading you but eh

the other head is in this game too and if he's cool with outing it i'll out it

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lol

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Oh wait, the upick? oh god. I hate even thinking about that game

no not a upick
although i just took a quick look and apparently i wasn't townreading you through most of it at the time as strongly as i remember townreading you but eh

the other head is in this game too and if he's cool with outing it i'll out it

Oh, the other one. I actually thought I was fairly townread in that one aside from a few flashes of lategame paranoia but I know what you mean now. I forgot about that hydra. I've been pressured way worse in my other games

i'm p sure we were the lategame paranoia lol
but either way i think you look similarly

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If we were to be investigated, how should I respond to that? I think claiming aesetic guarantees our death but I may have to if I can’t come up with a better explanation.[/

Fuck. I thought this was our hydrq PT. Sorry Auro. :facepalm:

lol that reads like a scumslip

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VOTE: unwnd

uhhhhhhhhh

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pooky do u remember that time we played catboi and he was town? i think he's playing the same way here

the only time I remember playing with catboi is in Undertale C so you'd have to remind me what you're talking about?

yeah i played a game with him in a hydra but it wasn't a hydra with *you* i got them confused for a sec lol

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ok we're up to me wanting to vote out like five different people and i only have one vote, it's very sad :/

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dann how r u reading me?

also again unwnd i agree that your points are totally valid but it's nai for her

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dann how r u reading me?

also again unwnd i agree that your points are totally valid but it's nai for her

I don't really have a read on you and I'm not foolish enough to try and form one based off the few posts I've read from you.

I don't feel I'm going to have a read on you for a while

hmmmmmmmm

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actually skitter that's not completely true

I had you registered as possible scum early on because I didn't think your suspicion of RCE was genuine. I don't really still hold that read and I think it was partially paranoia talking, which I'm trying really hard to not let impact my read on you

are you usually paranoid of me? i don't think i've played with you that much, right?

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oh I just went to look at skitter's iso to see who to vote for yikes

hmmmmm?

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oh I just went to look at skitter's iso to see who to vote for yikes

hmmmmm?

oh I was gonna sheep you but you're voting me it's fine don't worry about it

ah
yeah i was wondering if you'd seen it cuz if you hadn't i would have thought ur reaction was +scummy
where would u want to vote?

i have like 5 votes i'd be happy with rn

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I'm not the biggest fan of catboi but I doesn't seem like anyone really shares that opinion

honestly I mostly want to vote Titus right now

I'm interested in scum reads on Morning Tweet because I don't really see anything that sticks out as not within town!Tweet's MO

uh many people are saying they scumread catboi?

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this game feels weird

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this game feels weird

I'm the town stump now. Sheep me Skitter30.

VOTE: Morning Tweet

eh i'm not sure that's the right vote rn

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I'm not sure he is either