Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[RCEnigma]

This is a clever RVS joke

VOTE: Dannflor

[RCEnigma]

Wait why am i town lol

scum don't claim miller obv

Except when they do.

[RCEnigma]

My first pick was Chara and it wasn't even close

Hmmm I believe this actually VOTE: Chara don't change my mind.

[RCEnigma]

Cat can be town

[RCEnigma]

Hello rce!!!!!!! I have missed u

Pedit i mean i agree the odds that scum!me claims miller in my first post are super small but i still dont think either of u ought to townread me for the reasons ur giving

It's been awhile!

Side note this player list is amazing and I was super looking forward to this game..............

Pls don't kill me n1

[RCEnigma]

ur only strengthening the read here

fake read - fb going hard on the skitter pockit

noo, the only way to pocket town skitter is by getting into 1v1 with her.

This is how you pocket scum!skitter too.

[RCEnigma]

I was trying to get back to the scum pt unwnd thank you!

[RCEnigma]

Cat can be scum

[RCEnigma]

ur only strengthening the read here

fake read - fb going hard on the skitter pockit

noo, the only way to pocket town skitter is by getting into 1v1 with her.

This is how you pocket scum!skitter too.

how u doing RCE!?!?!

You weren't in hectics pt with us but besides that great!!

I'm hoping this game gets me to like mafia again.

[RCEnigma]

I liked cats stance on skitter. My first thought was a gambit to get FL to use his hug early, so cat keeping the claim at a distance was good.

But in true cat fashion they bit the hand that feeds q.q

[RCEnigma]

Hectic knows my scum!game is potato so I'm safe.

[RCEnigma]

I liked cats stance on skitter. My first thought was a gambit to get FL to use his hug early, so cat keeping the claim at a distance was good.

But in true cat fashion they bit the hand that feeds q.q

I dont get it
How is it a gambit to get fl to use his hig early?

It could get FL to walk down the PL to use the hug. You're still a high profile sort or check, that only leaves like 5 slots below you on the list making you checkable.

I don't know what doing it would be for but it's a hypothetical that crossed my mind.

[RCEnigma]

But in true cat fashion they bit the hand that feeds q.q

I don't understand understand this part or why you ended up flipping the read

It's a cat thing.

[RCEnigma]

Hectic knows my scum!game is potato so I'm safe.

Hello would you like to jump in my pocket?

I have some snacks in there :3

Only because hectic asked.

[RCEnigma]

But why would i do that as either alignment ...

Well I would have to assume scum roles centered around player list positioning. It would be like... A long term thing, maybe.

[RCEnigma]

Hypothetical world skitter.

[RCEnigma]

VOTE: RC

Chara I may have voted you first but I am both shocked and appalled.

[RCEnigma]

yknow I like the crackpot theory from RCE

Meh, I'm not sure I buy someone actually thinking something so implausible.

^^

Catboi gets away with this but you've played with me skitter.

[RCEnigma]

Hit him with the chair!

[RCEnigma]

Happy scumbirth hectic!

[RCEnigma]

If you elim hectic they can.

[RCEnigma]

I like my vote and I like the person who is with me on it

Pooky is trying so hard to be scum but he just can't stop being town anyways

That's not fair, we already know the scumteam. Let town figure it out.

[RCEnigma]

We go way back FL. You wouldn't let me get elimmed in my first ish game back would ya?

[RCEnigma]

Oh, that hypothetical thing I was talking about is happening lol.

[RCEnigma]

As long as FL notices me.

[RCEnigma]

shounen is pretty hit or miss for me admittedly but i think if i outted my top 3-5 anime i’d get clowned for being pretentious

As long as one of them isn't serial experiments lain you're fine

Yeah but the other 3 you've never heard about.

[RCEnigma]

Monster? Is that you?

[RCEnigma]

Man, you guys are weebs. I like you all more than when the game started <3

[RCEnigma]

i don’t have the attention span for that many episodes or rather the time these days sadly

Can I introduce you to a small show called one piece?

[RCEnigma]

Ydrasse should watch Darker Than Black.

pedit: YES. it's pure happiness. watch it with me online. <3

This was my next tattoo idea!

[RCEnigma]

RC, what design? that would be an amazing tattoo.

and Ydrasse, i think you might genuinely enjoy it just based on length + liking pretentious things but something that's also fun.

pedit: gottem. :>

I have the princess mononoke mask so probably adding the darker than black mask and like, maybe an Anbu one into my sleeve.

[RCEnigma]

can someone help me find a new anime to watch? bonus points if it's long, please i'm in a content desert

Genres?

I think you'd like canaan.

[RCEnigma]

I ugly cried for clannad but don't tell anyone I watched it.

[RCEnigma]

Oh black heaven is good for meme shows

[RCEnigma]

My all time manwha rec is the breaker. A+

[RCEnigma]

I'm gonna be super disappointed if ydrasse + Chara ends up a top 10 anime betrayal this game.

[RCEnigma]

Guys i have to tell you i’m town masons with chara and its also innocent child too btw but i can only see it in our mason pt

I hope spec thread is unspoiled because she is 1000% murdering you.

[RCEnigma]

RCE, you haven't done much this game. Just pop ins. How well do you know Hectic?

We've played 2 or 3 times and I think only when I was scum? Think I lost most of those games though.

[RCEnigma]

i was expecting that you'd have picked him tbh

Imagine my surprise q.q

[RCEnigma]

I think Chara/Catboi are town

And for some reason, I sorta think Ydrasee is town

The anime talk was just really pure lol

Funny I thought ydrasse came out of that really townie. I still maintain Chara is scum though. Catboi is sassy and probably town.

Talk to me about your chara read.

[RCEnigma]

That's fair, I have a purely tonal townread on you for now. Pre-anime discussion.

[RCEnigma]

The only draft analysis I'm going to make is that Lunar Martian is probably town.

Why?

[RCEnigma]

Okay from here on.

I am gonna wall post. Long essays on each and everythought
Heavy dissections into posts.

It will be like ur playing with mastina.

You all been warned. You will all be drowning in walls

+1

[RCEnigma]

FL

You said you picked me to lead policy

I think the best D1 wagon is within the slankers, yeah sure they're not gonna drop associatives immediately but you drag them out or they die and we gain another day to sort. Based on this alone? I'd suggest RC/Gamma/Lunar and then I think at least one of them flips scum. Definitely not a team thing or anything mind you. I don't think the scum right now if I'm reading Chara correctly are too interested in this conversation they're having with skitter, and while I'm paranoid of skitter I believe her entertaining is at least telling in how scum want to play this day.

I'll give you something to chew on, while the animeposting was all good and fun and great, do you think scum would take that opportunity to post more? It's hard to decipher by actual posts but that small instance could be a small comfort. I sorta think RCE dropping off after anime was done is most telling in that sense but that's leading confbias.

I will, in the future, skip work for MS. My bills are NOT that important.

But fair, I'm not that interested in Chara and skitter arguing about the maybe meta of someone I don't know anyway. It's also solely a game theory back and forth that scum can totally initiate or perpetuate. I think you kind of want me to be scummy, but don't actually scumread me if that makes sense.

[RCEnigma]

You guys didn't post as much as I thought you would which is nice, gimme a bit.

[RCEnigma]

or is it just like, they don't want that sort of game content to be talked about at all + wanna fall back on the fun anime times

Yeah furthering this thought

Not necessarily anime just more like didn't really need to say anything. Again, you either think Chara/Tweetie has scum or scum stayed away from something that didn't involve them. I only accept one of these two options lol

You're taking something that happened in a short time and applying it to the game as a whole when 3 slots are just not involved in the game yet and I'm sure another portion still need to catch up or just weren't around.

In a world where all slots are active at the same time. This read holds weight. As it stands though it's more like "if this were over 1-2 days" you can consider it an ignored situation.

Skitter floating Chara/mt as SvS was the thought I was having at the same time. I don't think it's the case just because I don't think that's scum!Charas line, to set up the accusation on MT in order to "reach" a townread. The quick flip kind of reinforces that.

Not to say scum!Chara is incapable of wifom but like, it's really bold to highlight a partner like that.

[RCEnigma]

idk are people i don't remember. actually i think i've played with RCE once and they (as scum, or maybe their partner did this not 100%) scumread Hectic/our hoptic hydra for coming clean that we'd only been pretending hectic was blind. apparently if hectic was REALLY blind then he wouldn't be scum AND say incorrect things about the setup since if he was blind and couldn't read the open setup then i wouldn't have explained the setup to him or something. it felt a little reachy tbh.

I think that might have been someone on the scum team but I did try to push that faking blindness lost you guys credibility.

[RCEnigma]

Ydrasse
Gamma Emerald

Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro)

Morning Tweet
Titus
Xtoxm
Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra)
Hopkirk
Lunar Martian
chkflip
Dannflor
Firebringer
skitter30
unwnd

RCEnigma

catboiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Chara

Early PoE

-Pluto (Auro)

Fixed

[RCEnigma]

It's like every town game I roll by page 5 people are like 'well unwnd is obvtown'

Jesus fucking christ

Have you tried changing your name to FlavorLeaf?

[RCEnigma]

No sorry, wrong game, the game was Been There Done That.

I was looking for the name of this game. I feel like this is the Titus we're getting in this game. Agree?Disagree?

Only caught up on most recent page so brb.

[RCEnigma]

Still doesn't beat when I slipped in Pokemon U-pick, and told RCEnigma my entire scum plan because I thought it was a scum thread, and I outed every single member of my scum team because I talked about why every single misfade was still possible in explicit detail, and then RCE shows up right as I tricked a player into hammering, followed by a thread lock, night kill.

That was RCE, right?

I won't say this is why I stopped playing mafia, but I won't say it's not lmao.

[RCEnigma]

ok i want to vote all of {rce, auro hydra, chara, starcrossed} and i only have the one vote, it's a problem

VOTE: chara

bad vote
that's the one slot I have sorted out of those and I TR it

i'm not sure i vibe that rn :/

i'm controversial!!!!!!!!!!!

Gamma what prompted the TR, anyway?

also curious why Nancy(?) scumreads me. :< and RCE!

Starcrossed hasn't really been readable yet in my opinion, i am not sure why they're on so many lists. i guess i don't really TR them, but i also don't SR them at all.

Sure, I can't really multiquote but there is one post in particular that really ticked the box for me.

[RCEnigma]

Truth be told you were first ban alongside Hopkirk. It honestly felt like Krazy stabbed me in the heart when he declared those picks...

is the way the draft worked linked in the main post somewhere?

please explain this for me Hectic <3

Dw, I got you:

• From the list of 17 players, the moderators say two players who cannot be scum.
  
• The scum treestump drafts a player.
  
• The moderator(s) then determine two players who cannot be scum.
  
• The scum drafter picks again.
  
• Two more get removed.
  
• This continues until the scum team is filed.
  
• The scum and their stump have a PT.

thank you Hectic.

actual question to the thread: is this process correct? i'm assuming it is, because if Hectic lied to me even though he's scum i'll be devastated.

second question, was this common knowledge? i'm surprised by the amount of "can't believe Hectic didn't pick meeeee" jokes when the very first thing that happens is the mod removing two players from being able to be drafted.

At first I was ready to townbin this post but thinking about it a little. It's not a post I expect from Town!Chara for role implication reasons but I can see it from Scum!Chara as an innocent one of that looks like an anti-association with Hectic.

Y mt

my vote on Tweet was not a joke, if that helps.

Also how long you sat on this. If this is where your initial tweet read came from I'm curious why it only became relevant to bring up some 4-500 posts after the fact.

[RCEnigma]

One off*

[RCEnigma]

It's not the dissonance but the fact that there was seemingly no regard for what the other head was doing or thinking, where in general I would expect some amount of communication? That was my thought at the time anyway.

Welcome to Nancy hydra country.

[RCEnigma]

The hyper focus on cat is worth prodding VOTE: chkflip

Also baa.

[RCEnigma]

RCEnigma's ISO is almost pure fluff. Is that normal? I don't think that's normal.

And yet it's a pretty cool party trick, amazes every time.

[RCEnigma]

Theory Xtoxm and Chkflip are scum together. In his short tome here Xtoxm has chainsawed both slots voting chkflip.

VOTE: xtoxm

Dann voted chk only after xtoxm voted Dan so this doesn't hold up.

That said, Titus making that assumption via VC is very on brand.

[RCEnigma]

That's confusing wording for the point I'm trying to make. Xtoxm didn't chainsaw dann for voting chk because dann was not voting chk at the time. This is only reflected by the current vote count and not actual events.

[RCEnigma]

I've only played with RCE a few times but I don't think of them as a fluff posting user, so I would interpret any posting here that's more on the fluffy side to indicate some level of comfort in the game.

In the words of boon "I'm more of a social player" which comes off as highly fluffy I've found. I do have a few braincells to supplement that around here somewhere.

[RCEnigma]

That's confusing wording for the point I'm trying to make. Xtoxm didn't chainsaw dann for voting chk because dann was not voting chk at the time. This is only reflected by the current vote count and not actual events.

Fair enough. I can't really read 150 pages a day and that's the speed of all my games atm.

I don't know the context that well either I'm like 25 pages behind and only found it in the iso while trying to figure out why dann had so many votes.

[RCEnigma]

Not Vanillo

[RCEnigma]

We are all pawns in FLs game of chess. Except ydrasse who is the queen.

[RCEnigma]

There probably should have been a ydrasse vote there.

[RCEnigma]

Me

[RCEnigma]

Someone give me a rough chain of game important events post page 50 pretty please? If it isn't relative to anything that can build a read I don't really need it.

[RCEnigma]

And just because it's the last thing I remember, do we have conftown from the vanilla/not vanilla claims?

[RCEnigma]

Is Dannflor actually scum or is this a poe elim?

[RCEnigma]

Ydrasse
Chara
Skitter
Starcrossed

VMP
Chkflip
Xtoxm
Dannflor
Firebringer

Morning Tweet
Lunar Martian
unwnd
RCEnigma

[RCEnigma]

I'm assuming the scumteam is populated before masons are chosen correct?

[RCEnigma]

It's not a readslist. It's slots grouped by mostly familiarity with hectic and/or strength of scum. As far as I know, I'm not hectic so I don't know certainly how well he knows these players. But consensus says it's mostly accurate.

[RCEnigma]

It's the key I'll be using when I get around to making reads. I removed conftown or masons but kept myself for... I didn't have an actual reason, just how I chopped the PL

[RCEnigma]

I don't think skitter white knights me day 1 as scum, because I don't think there's a real benefit to doing so.

Dangerous thinking, there is a long term benefit for scum to do this and is also within skitters scumrange.

[RCEnigma]

Why not?

[RCEnigma]

I got prodded, it was something tangentially relevant on this page.

[RCEnigma]

Pockets go up in value for scum intending to deepwolf. It's a lot harder to hard reverse a townread into scum than a scumread into town if that townread has been throwing you a bone/protecting you, or lining up with your game view for large parts of the game.

But that's all theory... A game theory.

[RCEnigma]

No clue.

Can I get people's reads on RCEnigma, Titus, and Starcrossed?

Scum / Null / Null-lean town

But I'm a townie boy.

[RCEnigma]

There is an info overload happening for me right now.

Who are the confirmed masons? Pts? Multiple? What happened with the VT thing?

I can't believe, it's not butter.

[RCEnigma]

VOTE: xtoxm other scum

[RCEnigma]

Sushi is gross hectic.

[RCEnigma]

Boooooo, bad intuition unwnd, boooooo.

[RCEnigma]

Fb hasn't told me he's town yet so I'm 85% sure that just makes him town.

[RCEnigma]

RCE get out of my pocket.

my pocket is reserved for Flavor, Skitter, and Hectic.

and maybe pooky but i think i am gonna chill in his pocket right now.

Put me in the other one.

[RCEnigma]

Man if Fire was scum he'd never have been caught.

[RCEnigma]

Calendar mafia was like an 8 man scumteam the first couple days and day 1 was just not a good time man.