Open 805 Panic Room Day 1

[Salsabil Faria]

Hi everyone, new to this setup. Let me catch up first...

[Salsabil Faria]

I can't understand anything! First of all, I'm struggling with all of your names, specially with the profile/personal names. Secondly, at the first few pages, I thought everything is going on in RVS state, then suddenly everything becomes serious and it messes my head cause I can't find/understand the basis of these votes at all. I need to re-read the thread again.

[Salsabil Faria]

What is up with all you fine specimens?
VOTE: Notmafia
Need I say why?

If it's not an RVS vote then yes, please.

[Salsabil Faria]

early townpings on lilith, yay!

~ skitter

Any particular reason for this townping?

[Salsabil Faria]

can i just cite the inverse of the pyp game where i had the exact opposite read off of your first like three posts?

your demeanor/happiness/vibes is different between the two alignments and now that i know what i'm looking for it's p easy to tell the difference

~ skitter

Nevermind, find the reason. A meta reason basically.

[Salsabil Faria]

i may or may not be harkening back to my old wallposting style

:O skitter is here to revive the lost art of wallposting

scummy

VOTE: infinity

How it's scummy? Seems like a joke to me.

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: d&D

Which one?

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: D&D >:(

Hi!

VOTE: Infinity

Hydras please turn on sigs with names thanks

VOTE: infinity

What is the reason to vote

Infinity 324

by quoting these posts?

[Salsabil Faria]

Hey guys welcome back to another mafia analyzation post! So uhh... as you can see, this game has just started and people alrrady made a lot of posts. But before you continue I'd like to mention that 0 percent of you are actually subscribed to this post so make sure you subscribe and click that bell to turn on the notifications. OK where did we left off again? Yeah right... As you can see PenguinPower has been eating that bag of 甘粟 for the last few years which is clearly against the laws of physics so he's definitely an alien to spy on us. Hydras are a type of snakes and snakes are dangerous, so the two hydrae we see in this game are definitely dangerous too. Green crayons are inanimate objects but this specific Green Crayon somehow developed into a living organism. Maybe that organism is made out of green crayons. Totally alien. MURDERCAT might murder me at any time so very scummy. N_M is a jester and judging fron his apperance, he is probably also an alien. Shadowslug is a slug so that is suspicious. Gamma Emerald is also an inanimate object which could've mutated. Alien. Infinity is not clear on his vote (D&D). Although we can assume which hydra he is voting for, but that is something that our sponsor for today - Mafiascum will do! Mafiascum is a website for you to play mafia games freely and make friends or foes! Don't mind too much about the foe part though. If you click the link in the description down below you will get an 100% discount on your account. Please enjoy this post and have fun!

[Salsabil Faria]

i like skitter but they seem kinda nervous right now

How?

[Salsabil Faria]

i like skitter but they seem kinda nervous right now

How?

Find the answer (106) but nor agreeing with you cause seems like a natural reaction/playstyle of them.

[Salsabil Faria]

If this flips red let’s also flip Penguin.

And the relation between

shadowslug

's flip with the

PenguinPower

is.....?

[Salsabil Faria]

Actually first question which I dont think anyone asked yet is why is that Yyotta post not one scum would make?

I take her 54 as NAI.

[Salsabil Faria]

Hmm ok

Do you think my grievances about GC are legitimate or am I being stupid?

Anyone is free to answer this question also

I see this as T vs T at the moment.

[Salsabil Faria]

How are you reading PP right now?

I don't like his buddying of me, and I don't like his interaction with Shadow over the noob comments--looks like really forced tension

VOTE: PenguinPower

Why do you need

Green Crayons

's point of view about

PenguinPower

to vote him? What about your own reason?

[Salsabil Faria]

If mafia bomb dies does mafia goon also die if they aren't in the hood

Yes - everyone outside the hood dies. This means that if we can successfully lim the bomb today, we automatically win.
This also means the bomb might probably make higher effort at appearing town than usual.
Green Crayons seems to fit that profile to me right now, and I'd like to have more pressure on that slot.

-Dumbass

What will happen if the goon is recruited?

[Salsabil Faria]

What will happen if the goon is recruited?

Everyone outside the hood dies, and it turns nightless.
The people in the hood would have to find and vote out the goon(s) who managed to squirm in.

Understood, thank you.

[Also I think tr on Salsabil for the slip]

-Dumbass

What slip?

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: d&D

Which one?

I dunno. figured I’d let the mod decide.

[Salsabil Faria]

Salsabil: both questions you asked me are answered in the thread

Can you mention those posts please? I'm on phone right now, so..

[Salsabil Faria]

What slip?

Using the phrase "the goon" instead of "a goon" (there are 2); I think as scum there's a low chance you unintentionally write that.

-P

Oh, I mistook about goons number. I thought we have one goon here when I was reading the setup. After seeing your reply, I checked the setup again and found that we have two goons.

[Salsabil Faria]

Oh, I mistook about goons number. I thought we have one goon here when I was reading the setup. After seeing your reply, I checked the setup again and found that we have two goons.

I figured, and I think you're town for that so woooo!

-Dumbass

Lol, you're too excited

[Salsabil Faria]

Salsabil: both questions you asked me are answered in the thread

Can you mention those posts please? I'm on phone right now, so..

Post 91 and Post 214.

So the quote of

MURDERCAT

's 11 in your 45 is a mistake?

[Salsabil Faria]

What will happen if the goon is recruited?

Everyone outside the hood dies, and it turns nightless.
The people in the hood would have to find and vote out the goon(s) who managed to squirm in.

[Also I think tr on Salsabil for the slip]

-Dumbass

I thought that was only when the bomb dies?

Yes, only when the mafia bomb will die.

[Salsabil Faria]

Salsabil: both questions you asked me are answered in the thread

Can you mention those posts please? I'm on phone right now, so..

Post 91 and Post 214.

So the quote of

MURDERCAT

's 11 in your 45 is a mistake?

No.

Ok, I understand now.

MURDERCAT

already voted

Infinity 324

before you placed your vote.

[Salsabil Faria]

I can't understand anything! First of all, I'm struggling with all of your names, specially with the profile/personal names. Secondly, at the first few pages, I thought everything is going on in RVS state, then suddenly everything becomes serious and it messes my head cause I can't find/understand the basis of these votes at all. I need to re-read the thread again.

Locktown

Lol, it should be NAI

[Salsabil Faria]

How are you people posting so much?!

I can't read anyone right now.

Come onnnn.... you can do it!

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: not_mafia

Reason?

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: not_mafia

Reason?

he's my mason buddy

Another joke

[Salsabil Faria]

@Mod, V/LA for 3/4 days due to health issue.

[Salsabil Faria]

Hi, I'm back in this game. Don't remember most of the things, will start to read from page 1.

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm on page 30 currently, the way I'm seeing things now,

shadowslug

and

Green Crayons

are TvT to me at the moment. Though I've some questions which I'll ask later (need to finish reading the thread first, then have to check the ISOs of both of them).

I find it hard to read the hydras right now, 4 different individual people but two different/same alignments. Can everyone tell me their points of view about hydras at the moment? If you already placed your read on them, can you mention the post number, please?

Others are null for now.

[Salsabil Faria]

Salsabil are you keeping up with the game?

-D

Yes, I'm reading this page now. Sorry for going slow, I have migraine, so can't stare at the pc for long.

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm on page 30 currently, the way I'm seeing things now,

shadowslug

and

Green Crayons

are TvT to me at the moment. Though I've some questions which I'll ask later (need to finish reading the thread first, then have to check the ISOs of both of them).

I find it hard to read the hydras right now, 4 different individual people but two different/same alignments. Can everyone tell me their points of view about hydras at the moment? If you already placed your read on them, can you mention the post number, please?

Others are null for now.

shadowslug is no longer.

Yes, thank you. I just find that.

catboi

*

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm townreading both hydras, Dumb & Dumber to a lesser extent because auro is confusing and skitter is good at scum.

I've looked over GC's more recent posts and fitting them into a scum mindset keeps feeling like a stretch. Don't really know who scum is outside of that.

Murdercat show us your towny soul

Auro seems confusing to you since he vs Lilith happened? Or everything about him?

[Pedit: I want to know all the hydras individual names and pronouns]

[Salsabil Faria]

@

PenguinPower

, do you play like this (filler posts + being passive) all the time? Or it's your general 'Day 1' playstyle?

[Salsabil Faria]

Spoiler: PenguinPower

PP how are you reading slug right now?

This post happened at 9:40 my time.

#proudpenguin

This was posted at 8:33, so PP hadn’t posted in thread for a little while.

Scummy but that’s probably influenced somewhat by nai things. I disagree with skitter assessment and the agreement post was gross.

Wouldn’t be sad if he was yeeted, but it’s early.

But he immediately responded at 9:44. I thought this was suspicious because it suggested he was reading the thread but not responding. So I tested it again (also there was other stuff that happened that I shouldn’t discuss that made me more comfortable voting there).

VOTE: PenguinPower

This was at 10:36.

lol

This was at 10:42. This is exactly the tell that I used to catch scum in Death Curse.

Here are some examples of him doing the exact same thing with me in the last game where he was scum.

It's 7:30 am on a Friday in September. Rain poured throughout the night, but a glance out the window showed the sun starting to fight through the clouds. I had barely started to drink my morning joe when a commotion outside caught my attention. Gathered in the town square, a number of residents seemed to be arguing. I couldn't make it out.

Upon approaching the crowd, I realized this was no simple disagreement. The townspeople were at each other's throats. I guess it's up to me settle this. I had barely begun to listen to the conversation when I was roped in. An old friend, penguinpower, started pointing at me. But for what?

Before I could respond, the crowd's attention turned elsewhere. A young girl named isis who I had recently become acquainted with said something questionable, but I didn't think much of it.

Recognizing my own excitement, I took a moment to collect myself. I realized that whatever this disagreement was about could only be solved one way: by semirandomly killing other citizens until it ended. I picked my first target.

VOTE: Taylor Swift

As I organized my thoughts I couldn't help but notice one of the voices rise above the rest, disrupting my deduction. Ah, of course. Not_Mafia, the town idiot, was yelling as well, though it seemed to be unrelated to whatever the others were going on about. I'd do well to ignore him if possible. I started to drown out the useless noise and focus on the task before me. It was time to begin.

Awesome.

VOTE: Tayl0r Swift

Delay: 2 minutes

11 pages but it feels like nothing has happened all game

There's enough for a real wagon on TSwift so come vote

There was a real wagon. What do you make of it disappearing?

That doesn’t seem like nothing.

Delay: 1 minute

Looking at the rest of his iso what has he done?

Scummy but that’s probably influenced somewhat by nai things. I disagree with skitter assessment and the agreement post was gross.

Wouldn’t be sad if he was yeeted, but it’s early.

I like crayons.

Ah man. Auto I liked skitter. Don’t ruin it.

VOTE: not_mafia

to try to get PP to do stuff but then he just didn't lol. So I guess this vote is useless.

I’m not sure why you thought your vote on me would get me to change how i play...you’re being weird murderkitty, and it’s unsettling.

VOTE: gc

GAHAHA IT’S HAPPENING!!!!

VOTE: murderkitty

What I'm seeing is a ton of shade being throw along with excuses to turn around on TRs when it's convenient. Voting me, voting TC despite a GC being a TR earlier, going back on a TR on skitter. The GC vote in particular was an opportunity to add pressure back to that wagon when it looked like things might turn towards him instead.

Not_Mafia

{1}

- Not_Mafia, PenguinPower

shadowslug

{2}

- Daenerys and Dragons, Green Crayons

Green Crayons

{3}

- Infinity 324, shadowslug, Dumb and Dumber

YyottaCat

{2}

- Gamma Emerald, MURDERCAT

Not voting

{2}

- Salsabil Faria, YyottaCat

Votes needed to Eliminate:

{6}

. Deadline for Day 1 is Saturday, February 13 at 2 PM EDT, or in (expired on 2021-02-13 16:00:00).

MOD NOTES:
Please reach out if you notice any mistakes in my count.

Please don't discuss ongoing games.

Salsabil Faria is V/LA until Saturday.

VOTE: penguin

~ skitter

VOTE: gc

Not strong enough to scumread him yet. He said on 855, it's his Day 1 playstyle, if he will continue do the same on Day 2, then this passiveness of his will indicate scum behaviour, but right now he is null to me.

[Salsabil Faria]

"Dumbass" is Auro (me), I go by he/him
Skitter30 signs directly, and goes by she/her

-Dumbass

I want to know all the hydras individual names and pronoun

Daenerys - lilith2013 (she/her)
Dragons - SirCakez (he/him)

Thank you all

[Salsabil Faria]

My heart is no more in a MURDERKITTY lim :/

-Dumbass

Why?

[Salsabil Faria]

MURDERCAT

(Filler + NAI) Posts:

11, 13, 30, 34, 38, 49, 97, 99, 104, 118, 364, 370, 406, 407, 591, 596, 721.

Good Posts:

114 (town!you tried to read

shadowslug

and wanted to know others points of view on this matter), 184 (previous reason), 197 (previous reason), 203 (town!you tried to sort

Green Crayons

&

shadowslug

), 210 (previous reason), 213 (previous reason + town!you tried to sort

PenguinPower

too), 227 (this post has a point),229 (town!you were pushing

PenguinPower

), 579 (town!you were pushing

YyottaCat

), 602 (good point), 604 (town!you were pushing

YyottaCat

), 608 (town!you gave reason for your read on

Skitter

; refer: 588), 613 (previous reason), 719 (find town motivation here), 720 (town!you were pushing

YyottaCat

), 722 (find town motivation here), 732 (same

PenguinPower

push), 815 (same

YyottaCat

push), 819 (find town motivation here), 859 (can be town motivatated), 870 (

PenguinPower

push but don't agree with the points yet), 873 (can be town motivatated).

Vouge/Passive Statements Without Giving Any Reasons (scum indicative to me):

155 (scum!you were shading

Dumb and Dumber

here), 156 (no elaboration was attached), 204 (previous reason), 350 (previous reason), 352 (previous reason), 353 (previous reason), 387 (previous reason), 582 (previous reason), 594 (previous reason), 599 (scum!you were shading

Green Crayons

here), 618 (can be scum motivated), 724 (scum!you showed disagreement but didn't ask any question further).

Null Posts (for now):

225, 590, 718, 727, 734, 736, 749, 753, 817, 858, 860.

(I Have Questions) Posts:

(i)

Why did you vote

Green Crayons

on 166?

(ii)

From 173: Why "Calling early town reads scummy is scummy"?

(iii)

Why scum!YyottaCat can't defend you (refer: 868)?

[Salsabil Faria]

I'll be back with

PenguinPower

soon, time for taking a break now.

[Salsabil Faria]

Spoiler: MURDERCAT

MURDERCAT

(Filler + NAI) Posts:

11, 13, 30, 34, 38, 49, 97, 99, 104, 118, 364, 370, 406, 407, 591, 596, 721.

Good Posts:

114 (town!you tried to read

shadowslug

and wanted to know others points of view on this matter), 184 (previous reason), 197 (previous reason), 203 (town!you tried to sort

Green Crayons

&

shadowslug

), 210 (previous reason), 213 (previous reason + town!you tried to sort

PenguinPower

too), 227 (this post has a point),229 (town!you were pushing

PenguinPower

), 579 (town!you were pushing

YyottaCat

), 602 (good point), 604 (town!you were pushing

YyottaCat

), 608 (town!you gave reason for your read on

Skitter

; refer: 588), 613 (previous reason), 719 (find town motivation here), 720 (town!you were pushing

YyottaCat

), 722 (find town motivation here), 732 (same

PenguinPower

push), 815 (same

YyottaCat

push), 819 (find town motivation here), 859 (can be town motivatated), 870 (

PenguinPower

push but don't agree with the points yet), 873 (can be town motivatated).

Vouge/Passive Statements Without Giving Any Reasons (scum indicative to me):

155 (scum!you were shading

Dumb and Dumber

here), 156 (no elaboration was attached), 204 (previous reason), 350 (previous reason), 352 (previous reason), 353 (previous reason), 387 (previous reason), 582 (previous reason), 594 (previous reason), 599 (scum!you were shading

Green Crayons

here), 618 (can be scum motivated), 724 (scum!you showed disagreement but didn't ask any question further).

Null Posts (for now):

225, 590, 718, 727, 734, 736, 749, 753, 817, 858, 860.

(I Have Questions) Posts:

(i)

Why did you vote

Green Crayons

on 166?

(ii)

From 173: Why "Calling early town reads scummy is scummy"?

(iii)

Why scum!YyottaCat can't defend you (refer: 868)?

I make two mistakes here, didn't state my read on him and misread 155. No shading happened there, it'll go in

Null Posts (for now)

section. The way you claimed about your town play on 155, 749 and 753, your playstyle is showing different thing. Despite of having more good/town posts than bad/scum posts, town!you feel performative.

Current Read:

Null/

Scum

[Salsabil Faria]

Despite of having more good/town posts than bad/scum posts, town!you feel performative.

Can you elaborate on this?

Yes, see his 155, 749, 753..... then see how he is playing, not matching up at all. That's why I think scum!MURDERCAT is trying to look like a townie.

[Salsabil Faria]

I feel like he has been doing 155? It's clear he hasn't been giving 100% yet, but what I think he's trying to say (and I've experienced this too) is that he doesn't give 100% until he has the energy/motivation to do so.

Yes, I understand this but he's not giving 100% is not the problem, problem is that he said how he plays like a town but don't play like that yet. And I scumread him now doesn't mean that my read on him will not be changed. Between him and

PenguinPower

, I would have null read him and scumread

PenguinPower

but as I don't see in my eyes his town play at the moment, I will scumread him until I see the change will actually happen.

[Salsabil Faria]

I'll be back with

PenguinPower

soon, time for taking a break now.

I'm gonna go through his ISOs now, sorry again for the late, my health is not supporting me that much.

[Salsabil Faria]

PenguinPower

NAI Posts:

40, 41, 48, 50, 53, 117, 70, 105, 153, 199, 200, 216, 222, 276, 277, 278, 288, 300, 313, 327, 331, 439, 442, 444, 445, 451, 462, 464, 469, 634, 664, 678, 726, 728, 754, 758, 759, 915, 919, 975.

(Game related posts but filler contents) Null Posts:

52, 57, 58, 61, 111, 185, 217, 219, 226, 228, 275, 281, 296, 308, 309, 311, 316, 329, 434, 439, 441, 447, 455, 457, 461, 666, 667, 668, 671, 729, 733, 735, 738, 740, 747, 761, 765, 769, 770, 774, 775, 778, 855, 906, 912, 918, 935, 937, 939, 985, 986, 991, 993

I have questions posts:

(i)

Why did you think

shadowslugcatboi/

slot insulted you there (refer: 100, 108)? I don't feel any insult towards you.

(ii)

Why did you vote

Not_Mafia

then (refer: 328)?

(iii)

Your reason to vote

MURDERCAT

here (refer: 715)?

Current Read:

Null

(but if you'll continue play like this in Day 2, then you'll be degraded on my scumread)

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Sorry :/

-Dumbass

What even is this? Who are you apologizing to?

-Dragons

I do want to wagon Not_Mafia for the lulz at the moment.

-Dumbass

[Salsabil Faria]

(ii)

VOTE: not_mafia

Reason?

he's my mason buddy

So, 331 wasn't a joke?? If you both are masons, why the vote then? Masons are towns, right?

[Salsabil Faria]

It was a joke vote?

[Salsabil Faria]

Very conflicted. I think his posting isolated is very scummy but I also can buy his excuse that he was burned out by the BooneyToonz game and I did like his post where he cased Penguin. Would yeet in lack of other better wagons.

Here’s the thing: you ALSO saw what happened in Among Us. Tell me Murder’s play/reception differs from that game at all.

Isn't among us is a chat-based game and very different from the forum game?

[Salsabil Faria]

Very conflicted. I think his posting isolated is very scummy but I also can buy his excuse that he was burned out by the BooneyToonz game and I did like his post where he cased Penguin. Would yeet in lack of other better wagons.

Here’s the thing: you ALSO saw what happened in Among Us. Tell me Murder’s play/reception differs from that game at all.

Isn't among us is a chat-based game and very different from the forum game?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85156

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm continuously getting this feeling that

Daenerys and Dragons

vs

Dumb and Dumber

is not TvT

[Salsabil Faria]

Gamma Emerald

NAI Posts:

15, 21, 249, 250, 369, 375, 383, 523, 642, 998, 1056, 1125

Game Related Posts (but Null):

10, 471, 653, 695, 782, 801, 818, 1007, 1043, 1071, 1077, 1120, 1122, 1126, 1128.

Good Posts:

YyottaCat Push

:

232, 233, 234, 236, 248, 386, 534, 575, 580, 597, 611, 812, 829, 1123, 1133.
I feel that town!you are pushing her in good faith.

All about MURDERCAT

:

399, 405, 471, 723, 802, 980, 994, 1019, 1024, 1026, 1036, 1042, 1044, 1047, 1049, 1054, 1059, 1060, 1062, 1064, 1066, 1073, 1080, 1082, 1083, 1092, 1094, 1105, 1106, 1118.
I can totally understand where are you coming from, I'm agreeing with your meta points despite scumreading him and giving him the benefit of the doubt by not placing vote on him. I have one question though, for argument's sake, if he is a scum here, isn't it possible that scum!him is acting like town!him from his previous games?

Others

:

{237, 238, 241, 245, 246} = find good faith.

{239, 242 (misunderstood

Infinity 324

but not scum indicative yet), 529 (I agree), 673(town vibe), 809} = seem okay.

I Have Questions Posts:

(i)

Can you explain more about 347, 372 and 472? I don't understand.

(ii)

Why did you think

Dumb and Dumber

's was okay (refer: 653)?

(iii)

What is your current read about

Infinity 324

(refer: 824)?

(iv)

Reason (refer: 984)?

Current Read:

Null/

Town

[Salsabil Faria]

What leads you to that conclusion?

I'm continuously getting this feeling that

Daenerys and Dragons

vs

Dumb and Dumber

is not TvT

yeah why is that?

- Daenerys

Mostly gut, don't go through all of your ISOs yet, find hard to read actually.

[Salsabil Faria]

your reads are garbage.

1) does anyone ACTUALLY believe that I, as scum, would willingly pick a 1v1 against town!skitter? I've been pushing her slot since the beginning. that would mean you have two of the strongest town players in this game, who are also familiar with both my towngame and my scumgame, and I'm staring them in the face and drawing their attention like this. in what universe is that how I aim to play around skitter? that makes no fucking sense.

2) look at my ISO. I'm constantly engaging with people, evaluating my reads, picking things apart, and pushing. even though I'm no longer focusing on auro, it's clear I'm still trying to sort him. I'm trying to sort everyone. I'm clearly invested in this game and trying to solve. look at my posts and say to my face that this is a scummy ISO.

- Daenerys

not only that, but in order to scumread me you have to believe that after skitter and auro backed off me, that I am willingly, repeatedly, poking and prodding and antagonizing them instead of just letting them townread me. how on earth do you think this is a strategy that scum!me takes with respect to a town!dumb and dumber. how????

either you're blind or you're scum.

- Daenerys

I know these replies is not for me, but I want to know something. Scum!you are willingly picking 1v1 against town!Skitter is also not impossible despite you both know each other playstyles both town+scum? It can be a good strategy to use so that scum!you can be townreaded by all/most of the players at least? And town!Skitter has to prove to the rest of us that you're a scum here. You may be (?) can't play around town!Skitter, but you may (?) can play around enough people to save yourselves from the elimination? And everyone tries to improve their game, so that doesn't mean scum!you don't improve your game here especially knowing that town!Skitter is here. This isn't my read on you/Skitter, I'm clearing that maybe (?) all of it isn't that impossible.

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm continuously getting this feeling that

Daenerys and Dragons

vs

Dumb and Dumber

is not TvT

Gonna need more here boss.

-Dragons

You guys have too many posts and I'm afraid going through your ISO's, to be honest

Spoiler:

[Salsabil Faria]

Salsabil, have you done these type of detailed ISO reads in a game before?

Yes, but can't talk about that, it's an ongoing game (REDACTED).

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm not even directly pushing you yet, I'm just trying to talk on my thoughts, so your explosive reaction seems overly defensive

Agreed. Town can be defensive too, I myself a defensive person, but Lilith's defensiveness is not something I see town usually do.

[Salsabil Faria]

if you can't talk about it, don't link it, thanks

Oh! sorry sorry, I don't know that I can't even link any ongoing game.

@Mod

, you can erase the link, I'm so sorry

[Salsabil Faria]

once again - look at my ISO. look at me pushing, sorting, engaging, and progressing this game. yeah, I think I'm the most obvtown slot in this game.

- Daenerys

Don't get mad but I saw this exact same attitude of

obsessive town solver

scum game in one of my previous games and most of the players fell for it and the mafia won.

[Salsabil Faria]

not anymore
I s2g do you fuckers have any reading comprehension at all?

@MURDERCAT

what did you mean by “your one scum game”?
I feel like depending on this I have a solid binary of where scum is.
UNVOTE: because straight up stating NM is not involved in that binary

UNVOTE: because straight up stating NM is not involved in that binary

like holy shit how dense are you?????

let's note I did not target this at anyone, but you have taken it personally

I mean I also thought this post was for

Daenerys and Dragons

[Salsabil Faria]

I honestly feel like a lot of the barriers I have in doing well in the game of mafia stem from my IRL quirks. The thing is, I actually seek to exploit that in a sense, using mafia as a way to build those skills in an environment with reduced stakes (since it's just a game, my blunders shouldn't cause any lasting consequences).
It's the same reason why I wanna go on Survivor some day despite my social interaction issues. I feel like it would be a good trial-by-fire if conventional methods of improving my people skills don't work. The only issue with that is Survivor also has a physical aspect I don't know if I'll ever be ready for.

Survivor?

[Salsabil Faria]

however, as mena once said, skitter is a bad D1 elim. I’m not really interested in pursuing their elimination today, but I’m very much not convinced that they’re town. when I get back I’ll try to be more involved in sorting other slots for today’s elim.

What is 'mena'?

[Salsabil Faria]

Mostly gut, don't go through all of your ISOs yet, find hard to read actually.

I don't really feel gut is strong enough to say 2 people arguing aren't both town. That feels a very arbitrary claim to make. Town argue with each other all the time and in this case, right now, it doesn't feel to me like either of them is arguing in a scummy way.

I didn't say anywhere if there is any 1v1 going, it has to be TvS. I read your replaced slot and

Green Crayons

's 1v1 arguments TvT back then. I just sensed something off which lead me to think that the arguments between the hydras are not TvT.

[Salsabil Faria]

@salsabil I can’t tell if debating whether me getting into a 1v1 with skitter could be scum-motivated is an actual argument you want to pursue or just something you were commenting on. If it’s actually something you want to discuss, I can talk more about it.

- Daenerys

I'll go through your ISO's tomorrow (it's past midnight here). Hopefully, will find something to discuss which help me able to read you.

[Salsabil Faria]

Hey, Salsabil is missing some context.

@Salsabil, Skitter30 (the other head of this hydra, Dumber) is a highly reputed player and scary slot to roll scum against.
She also has had a high read rate (100% I think) on Lilith's alignment games they've played together previously.

What Lilith is arguing is that for scum!Lilith, taking such continuous aggressive stances as scum against a slot that has proved to read her well is a silly, suicidal move.

Leave that aside - even if she did that anyway as a crazy method to get townread, and now that both heads of my slot declare townreads on her... pushing on us in this position is *even sillier* for scum!Lilith to make. I presume she'd rather just stay mum and focus elsewhere, kill us off N1, and coast off our read on her if she was scum.

-Dumbass

I understand completely. My point (or problem) is, I didn't play with any of you before, so literally have no idea how are you guys playing as a town/scum. So it's really tough for me to believe all of your meta on each other as I don't who is who here. I'm trying to build up my read on what I'm seeing in this game and only in this game. Do I make sense?

[Salsabil Faria]

Sure. Skitter reading Lilith correctly across all their previous games should be factual and verifiable though, would proof of that make it easier to believe?

-Dumbass

I don't know yet

[Salsabil Faria]

Hey, Salsabil is missing some context.

@Salsabil, Skitter30 (the other head of this hydra, Dumber) is a highly reputed player and scary slot to roll scum against.
She also has had a high read rate (100% I think) on Lilith's alignment games they've played together previously.

What Lilith is arguing is that for scum!Lilith, taking such continuous aggressive stances as scum against a slot that has proved to read her well is a silly, suicidal move.

Leave that aside - even if she did that anyway as a crazy method to get townread, and now that both heads of my slot declare townreads on her... pushing on us in this position is *even sillier* for scum!Lilith to make. I presume she'd rather just stay mum and focus elsewhere, kill us off N1, and coast off our read on her if she was scum.

-Dumbass

I understand completely. My point (or problem) is, I didn't play with any of you before, so literally have no idea how are you guys playing as a town/scum. So it's really tough for me to believe all of your meta on each other as I don't who is who here. I'm trying to build up my read on what I'm seeing in this game and only in this game. Do I make sense?

1310 was supposed to be a watered down version for you that you could understand without meta - regardless of my history with skitter, it’s a really risky move for me to deliberately antagonize someone who is townreading me in order to try to get other people to townread me, when I could just get the other people to townread me some other way. High risk, low reward.

- Daenerys

Okay, I'll go through your ISO's tomorrow, so let's see, what I find.

[Salsabil Faria]

OK I finished reading a few pages of lilith vs SkitteR and now my brain is fried to crisp. I got nothing from that.

[Salsabil Faria]

Daenerys (lilith2013)

{22, 27, 243} = good faith.

{67, 84, 116, 124, 129, 137, 240, 484, 556, 888, 892, 910, 913, 948, 949, 961, 1038, 1050, 1074, 1101} = good posts + some matched with my thought process.

{73} = Can you elaborate more? Cause

skitter

also townread you that time (like

YyottaCat

) on the basis of the vibe I guess (refer: 25).

You vs

Dumbass ( Auro)

on 481, 483, 484, 485, 491, 492, 493, 496, 498, 502, 503, 504, 507, 508, 511, 512, 514, 515, 518, 519, 520, 522, 539, 541, 543, 545, 546, 547, 551, 552, 557, 559, 563, 565, 568, 569, 570, 603, 605, 699, 623, 646 are based on your real life stuffs and hence the overreaction came in my opinion. So, it's not helpful to me to read you at all, I'm taking this 1v1 as NAI.

These posts actually pinged me very hard because as I said earlier, in one of my previous games, one scum was literally doing this type of

game solving play and

deliberately showing that they were doing

.

. That's the reason for questioning you about your

game solving nature

here, not a theory based reason totally.

Spoiler:

like idk I'm clearly in here solving and progressing the game and moving things forward, and if you think that's possibly scum!me.... idk what to tell you.

2) look at my ISO. I'm constantly engaging with people, evaluating my reads, picking things apart, and pushing. even though I'm no longer focusing on auro, it's clear I'm still trying to sort him. I'm trying to sort everyone. I'm clearly invested in this game and trying to solve. look at my posts and say to my face that this is a scummy ISO.

- Daenerys

and you should also see that I'm clearly putting in effort and care about solving this damn game.

- Daenerys

my engagement, my proactivity, my solving, my sorting, is all town and wasn't evident in hidden temple whatsoever.

??????????

- Daenerys

this is how I always react to people trying to shade me when I'm being super fucking obvtown.

once again - look at my ISO. look at me pushing, sorting, engaging, and progressing this game. yeah, I think I'm the most obvtown slot in this game.

- Daenerys

{1278} = Don't agree with you cause like you overreacted on

Dumbass ( Auro)

earlier,

Gamma Emerald

overreacted with you too. Yes, he might have the wrong meta on you (which is according to you), but that doesn't necessarily scum indicative. Your reaction was also not calming when the 1v1 was going on. And he said that he has issues with communicating, that's why he was ignoring you which I feel genuine. Also, he may be doesn't solve the game like you're doing but I don't find him scum for this.

[Salsabil Faria]

Gosh! so many posts to read again and again!
Btw, I think I give

MURDERCAT

enough benefit of the doubt.

[Salsabil Faria]

Hello guys, I'm really sorry for being busy. I have some important things going on, that's why can't concentrate here. Give me some time to adjust everything, please.

[Salsabil Faria]

@infinity
My half-baked theory is that gamma is the bomb

~ skitter

Can't be

Infinity 324

? His 1445 looks like bussing vote.

[Salsabil Faria]

Btw, welcome

Menalque

!

[Salsabil Faria]

@salsa would like a response to the posts quoted in 1642 since I don’t think you ever responded

- Daenerys

You have points, specially after

MURDERCAT

's flip, so I really don't have anything to defend

Gamma Emerald/Menalque

's slot. But if

Infinity 324

and

YyottaCat

are the other two scums here, then I think

Gamma Emerald/Menalque

's slot is town.

My POE = {

Infinity 324

,

YyottaCat

,

Gamma Emerald/Menalque

} and I think

Infinity 324

is the bomb.

VOTE: Infinity 324

[Salsabil Faria]

@salsa would like a response to the posts quoted in 1642 since I don’t think you ever responded

- Daenerys

You have points, specially after

MURDERCAT

's flip, so I really don't have anything to defend

Gamma Emerald/Menalque

's slot. But if

Infinity 324

and

YyottaCat

are the other two scums here, then I think

Gamma Emerald/Menalque

's slot is town.

My POE = {

Infinity 324

,

YyottaCat

,

Gamma Emerald/Menalque

} and I think

Infinity 324

is the bomb.

VOTE: Infinity 324

If Infinity is bomb though then he wouldn't want attention towards him. Explain.

(i)

Scum!he defended

MURDERCAT

on the basis of mafia theory. When no one bought that and there was no chance left for

MURDERCAT

to survive, scum!he buss voted to be in the good book cause his name was and is considered for partnership with

MURDERCAT

.

(ii)

With knowing that, scum!he starts to defend

Gamma Emerald/Menalque

slot on Day 2 by using the same mafia theory, which led me to believe that

Gamma Emerald/Menalque

slot is a town most probably. If this slot flip green then it's a good chance for scum!

Infinity 324

to use this for getting town credit. If you're not the other scum, then

Gamma Emerald/Menalque

's slot can be the bomb. But my gut feeling says that

Infinity 324

is the bomb, at least, at the moment.

So, yes, he is drawing attention towards him but this isn't necessarily town indicative to me.

[Salsabil Faria]

a lot of arguing with infinity about why gamma is scum, so we're voting infinity?

Wait for others to come, please.

[Salsabil Faria]

tbf I suppose a lot of that arguing is from GOT D&D

You don't agree?

[Salsabil Faria]

@Menalque

, what is your read on

Infinity 324

and

YyottaCat

?

[Salsabil Faria]

agree with which aspect?

Infinity 324 s a scum or not?

[Salsabil Faria]

though it's not lost on me that infinity & gamma/mena are in the same position relative to the MC-wagon, so presumably one could apply the conversation about gamma to infinity's play--but nobody's really made that connection

Hmm, that's true. I'm okay with

Infinity 324

/

YyottaCat

today, mostly

Infinity 324

to be honest. I was townreading

Gamma Emerald

's slot but then the replacement and

MURDERCAT

's flip happened, so

Menalque

is in null position now. And he said that he'll catch up and give his thoughts, so I'll give him a chance.

[Salsabil Faria]

Infinity 324

{4}

- catboi, YyottaCat, Salsabil Faria, Dumb and Dumber

E-1!

Also, is

YyottaCat

bussing??

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: Infinity

I totally forget about

YOU

!!!

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm hating myself!

[Salsabil Faria]

jrolekfjfbsbadb trying to figure out how best to use my time in twilight

Tell me your final reads if possible.

[Salsabil Faria]

I thought dumb&dumber was the E1 vote?

Yes, but I'm online and if didn't forget about

Not_Mafia

, then I would unvote cause I also want to know about

Menalque

's reads.

[Salsabil Faria]

idk I’m a little weirded out by their switch off gamma

I think that compounded with the lack of E1 announcement is giving me weird vibes again

- Daenerys

Okay, will keep that in mind.

[Salsabil Faria]

It feels just like, a little too easy that everyone has the same three person POE? like idk, I feel like it should be harder than this unless scum have just given up and are rolling over for us. but why not just concede then?

- Daenerys

Cause

MURDERCAT/YyottaCat

acted/acting same which was/is not town indicative. And

Gamma Emerald/Infinity 324

defended

MURDERCAT

before the flip, so these 3 names get connected with each other. If the 2 scums are not in this 3, then we're screwed!

[Salsabil Faria]

If infinity is town, then I think dumb&dumber switching off gamma is possibly scum-indicative

- Daenerys

Gamma Emerald

's slot also town if

Infinity 324

flip green?

[Salsabil Faria]

@Not_Mafia

,

Spoiler:

[Salsabil Faria]

I think maybe leaning slightly more towards town!gamma if infinity is town, but the content from that slot makes me not want to feel that way

- Daenerys

What about

YyottaCat

and

Green Crayons

?

[Salsabil Faria]

BAH!

Spoiler:

[Salsabil Faria]

Good game everyone

Also if anyone interests to give your thoughts on my gameplay in this game, how I improve my flaws about this stuff, I'll be very grateful.

[Salsabil Faria]

Also, thank you for your modding

notscience

[Salsabil Faria]