whyIn post 10, Gamma Emerald wrote:What is up with all you fine specimens?
VOTE: Notmafia
Need I say why?
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scummyIn post 17, Infinity 324 wrote:
:O skitter is here to revive the lost art of wallpostingIn post 14, Dumb and Dumber wrote:i may or may not be harkening back to my old wallposting style
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inexperienced with all forms of gamesIn post 38, MURDERCAT wrote:Hi shadowslug, I see you are an alt but you are still relatively inexperienced with non-newbie games is that correct?- shadowslug
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nervous isn't the right word but this seems like you're getting annoyed at their questioning of you in a defensive way
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Well now this just seems like you're inviting other people to question me rather than doing the dirty work yourselfIn post 116, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:I don’t really think skitter came off as defensive, maybe like.. confused that infinity assumed a reason for her read that wasn’t true and wasn’t stated. Can we instead talk about why shadowslug seems to think her response is “annoyed in a defensive way”?
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You just used my own words against me! And that is directed towards skitter ofcourse.In post 131, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:
Why not ask her yourself if you think the answer is important?In post 130, shadowslug wrote:Actually first question which I dont think anyone asked yet is why is that Yyotta post not one scum would make?
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Had to reread to make sure I read the situation correctly
Here's my intepration:
Skitter: yyotta is townie
Infinity: I disagree with reads of this nature
Skitter: I didn't make that read
The problem is skitter immediately defends their thought process rather than trying to correct Infinity. As far as i can see skitter never says why Yyotta's opening is not scum. It was immediately on the defensive. That's why it pinged me.- shadowslug
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Missed thisIn post 142, Infinity 324 wrote:Shadow, why was lilith saying "can we talk about" in 116 scummy but murder saying "can we talk about skitter" not?
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So fake lol
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Questioning your read why? Because it seems so easy? that's bullcrap reasoningIn post 159, Green Crayons wrote:You literally quoted a post where I am questioning my read.- shadowslug
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LolIn post 162, Dumb and Dumber wrote:
~ skitterIn post 59, Dumb and Dumber wrote:@infinity i have exactly no meta on yyotta but it doesnt feel like a post scum makes
But WHYYYY? Why can't scum prepare a post like that one?- shadowslug
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And what posts of mine gave you this impression? What's the distinction?In post 172, Green Crayons wrote:I don’t have to engage you when others are doing it.
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NubIn post 176, MURDERCAT wrote:
Oh I misread ignore meIn post 173, MURDERCAT wrote:Early town reads are good. Calling early town reads scummy is scummy- shadowslug
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Thanks, I agree with youIn post 168, Dumb and Dumber wrote:i don't fully know how to explain that one, it just doesn't
it's just like a little too 'bold' for (newb) scum to make i think; scum would have to feel p darn comfortable to have an entrance like that, and i'm not sure i see it
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In post 139, Green Crayons wrote:Avoiding (twice!) the question while attacking the player questioning your behavior is very new player scum behavior.In post 141, Green Crayons wrote:Very “new player scum behavior”
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you make this series of posts after the "scrunching my nose" postIn post 148, Green Crayons wrote:^^^ that’s probably town sort mentality even if it’s wrong on me and prob shadow
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My problem is you jump from confident to conflicted in a way that doesn't look realIn post 182, Green Crayons wrote:So is your problem that I'm too certain in my read or that I'm conflicted?
You're going to have to settle on which one you want to say makes me scum so you can finally finish this tiresome windup.
You're conflicted one moment then shooting people down who say i'm town the next
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Do you think my grievances about GC are legitimate or am I being stupid?In post 186, MURDERCAT wrote:Hmm ok- shadowslug
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Anyone is free to answer this question alsoIn post 201, shadowslug wrote:
Do you think my grievances about GC are legitimate or am I being stupid?In post 186, MURDERCAT wrote:Hmm ok- shadowslug
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Wat the heck is hoodedIn post 218, Dumb and Dumber wrote:{GC, PP, Murderkitten} is the bloc I currently prefer never be hooded* not necessarily that I find every member in the bloc scummy as of now.
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LocktownIn post 256, Salsabil Faria wrote:I can't understand anything! First of all, I'm struggling with all of your names, specially with the profile/personal names. Secondly, at the first few pages, I thought everything is going on in RVS state, then suddenly everything becomes serious and it messes my head cause I can't find/understand the basis of these votes at all. I need to re-read the thread again.- shadowslug
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No I didn't read 82 when I unvoted, posts were coming in pretty quick at that timeIn post 279, Green Crayons wrote:
So you paid enough attention to see that there was an infinity vote, but not enough attention to see that that very post said that it was six to hammer?In post 223, shadowslug wrote:I unvoted infinity cos I thought 5 votes equaled a hammer btw. I don't think that Infinity post i quoted was even that scummy either, just an in the moment gut read thing.
Why would I not want to be on a miselim wagon? I wouldn't care if Infinity gets quick elim'd as maf. I'm hardly going to cop suspicion just for having voted him. Maybe you could argue my unvote was performative, which I'd accept even if it wasn't. But your current reasoning doesn't make sense. Why does it feel like you've already concluded I'm maf and are just trying to find things to justify your read?- shadowslug
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I felt similar confusion at all the names. I'mIn post 318, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: GC
GC keeps pinging me, I guess it doesn't feel like there's genuine scumhunting underneath his caginess?
Shadow, I feel like that would be scummy if anything? (Newbscum are more likely to be lost/confused I think) Though the slip was probably genuine.stillgetting the D+D's mixed up. The desire to try and understand why people are voting/get a clear grasp of the game feels very townie to me. And her in-the-moment questioning after that post solidifies this TR.- shadowslug
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Doubt you need to talk to lilith since you've both read the game in the same wayIn post 339, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:VOTE: shadowslug
By far my strongest SR after catching up.
Need to talk to lilith more.
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You both defend skitter and ascribe scummy intent to my questioning of skitter (why? you acknowledge skitter might come off as defensive to people who aren't familiar with her play, so isn't my point legitimate?)- shadowslug
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To clarify on why I didn't like this post - the first sentence was fine and the post could have ended there. The second post invites pressure to me without lilith trying to work out my thought process directly. That was what drew my attention foremost. Why you think drawing attention to myself by not just answering the question is scum indicative i don't know.In post 116, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:I don’t really think skitter came off as defensive, maybe like.. confused that infinity assumed a reason for her read that wasn’t true and wasn’t stated. Can we instead talk about why shadowslug seems to think her response is “annoyed in a defensive way”?
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Also - scum may be lost and confused, but they probably don't want toIn post 341, shadowslug wrote:
I felt similar confusion at all the names. I'mIn post 318, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: GC
GC keeps pinging me, I guess it doesn't feel like there's genuine scumhunting underneath his caginess?
Shadow, I feel like that would be scummy if anything? (Newbscum are more likely to be lost/confused I think) Though the slip was probably genuine.stillgetting the D+D's mixed up. The desire to try and understand why people are voting/get a clear grasp of the game feels very townie to me. And her in-the-moment questioning after that post solidifies this TR.appearlost and confused. So the earnestness in being confused and the fact I felt similarly earns a townread from me. Do you feel there's a difference between being and appearing?- shadowslug
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I don't have a strong reason to vote Infinity in the first place. It's like page 2. Not a lock in scumread. Already said this. I don't need to provide a reason to unvote infinity either; you're taking an absence of reasoning on my part and drawing a cynical conclusion. If you wanted a reason you could have just asked rather than call me mafia.
"I don't like that he throws suspicion at another player while unvoting" - Ok? explain why this is a scumtell.
"I don't like that he doesn't vote to either replace his insanity vote or to follow through on his suspicion" - My suspicions were on skitter at that point, who I did follow up with. I don't need to vote.
Anything else I missed? Why are you so desperate for me to be mafia?- shadowslug
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If you don't know what's going on why the hell are you voting me?In post 385, YyottaCat wrote:Also I think 6 votes is a hammer so now... Even though my brain is still struggling to understand what is going on...
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your scumread is attacking your townread right? im surprised you dont want to comment or critique the posts he is making to either get a further grasp on your scumread, or generate discussion for other people to read into. how do you normally play as town?In post 398, Dumb and Dumber wrote:What am i supposed to be questioning him abt? He hasnt done much to change my mind- shadowslug
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why would he be checked out if that was the case? i'm coming off this altercation way better than you are lolIn post 474, Green Crayons wrote:Penguin, are you checked out bc your partners are shadow and cat?- shadowslug
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what tells do you think you have given so far that skitter would be able to pick up on and townread you for? isn't that townread also based on you being able to effectively play to your town meta in a way that skitter can identify?In post 539, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:skitter you know i love you and i think you’re great. this isn’t personal.
@whoever is interested: skitter is within top 3 players onsite with ability to read me. probably top 1 if not close to it. she has crazy accuracy on me. therefore I will consider scumreading me a scumclaim, from her specifically.
@whoever else is interested re: “this argument is going nowhere”: I have unorthodox methods, I know. they don’t make a lot of sense to most people, I know. However, my methods have really worked for me - see [redacted].
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In post 563, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:
have you read my posts?In post 561, shadowslug wrote:i think a few people have said auro is posting weird or scummy or whatever - can someone explain this? not getting that impression right now
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yes and i understand why he might think you're posturing since your reaction seemed a little overblown relative to the circumstances. i get wanting to take the game seriously and dedicate brain power to things that matters, but jokes are just... jokes aren't they? is it worth getting riled up over that?In post 564, Infinity 324 wrote:@shadow Well lilith was confused about whether flavor and notsci were in the game, and auro said that was posturing. Like lilith, I was confused about what advantage scum!lilith would get from doing that (how would it make her look towny/someone else look scummy?). He also didn't readily explain his POV. I disagree with lilith that it was necessarily scum-indicative, but I'd like auro to explain his reasoning in more depth
i think scum definitely wanna look like they're taking the game seriously, that they're focused on finding mafia rather than goofing off, but i'll let auro answer for himself on that one
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would these not be able to be faked as mafia and would you not alter your playstyle to appeal to the people that can read you if you are scum?In post 562, Daenerys and Dragons wrote: lol I don’t think this is ever a problem for me, but sure:
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ok, gotchaIn post 570, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:
trust me, I’ve tried. skitter is now something like 5/5 on me. I really hate to use self-meta/examine my own scumgames but.... I’m pretty polarized.In post 567, shadowslug wrote:
would these not be able to be faked as mafia and would you not alter your playstyle to appeal to the people that can read you if you are scum?In post 562, Daenerys and Dragons wrote: lol I don’t think this is ever a problem for me, but sure:
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- skitter herself at the very beginning of this game brought up my “excitement.” I disagree that this is a perfect tell for me on principle but this is probably true to some extent.
I had a vague sense of unease on auro’s posts before today but not really anything concrete
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is this in relation to something in particular or just a random thoughtIn post 581, MURDERCAT wrote:Isn't skitter really good at scum? Like she is surface level townie sure but I am worried about that.- shadowslug
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it's inconsistent based on your sample size of oneIn post 699, Green Crayons wrote:But by unvoting infinity while simultaneously shading skitter without a skitter vote is inconsistent with how shadow plays the game with his votes. That is--if he's a town player who throws down votes early to get a reaction, then presumably he would have unvoted infinity and voted skitter. Because he didn't act in conformity to his initial play suggests that he is being calculating with his votes.- shadowslug
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what changed your mind about PP? looks like he's playing the same to meIn post 760, Dumb and Dumber wrote:although that vote is pretty questionable ...
penguin you're beating me to everything cuz i have to keep switching accounts >.>
i think your'e a town penguin now btw!
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