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Hot take: Pooky is one of the scum on the wagon. Kind of an easy claim
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That's true that it could just be a joke or Unwnd could of course be lyingIn post 43, Toogeloo wrote:Is unwnd even telling the truth? My first instinct at this stage of the game is things like that are jokes.- Raya36
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I don't think he's lying about being uncultable if it's true he's so known for loving cult. That's a good way to guarantee cult never tries to recruit you.In post 60, Magnus V wrote:
I think probably everything he's said so far about his role is a lie. He's just trollingIn post 58, Raya36 wrote:So you don't actually think Korina is uncultable or do you just think the restriction is trolling. Not sure I follow what part you think is the lie.
That's true. If I had that ability I probably wouldn't use it right away on the start of the first wagon.
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Can't this apply to anytime in the game though? You won't get an early townbloc but you could still get one just as easily?In post 61, Toogeloo wrote:
Actually, if used early, it can be quite broken. Instant townbloc if you find 4 people all town on a wagon.In post 58, Raya36 wrote:That's true. If I had that ability I probably wouldn't use it right away on the start of the first wagon.- Raya36
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Yeah, I'm leaning towards it not being true now as well.In post 71, samantha97 wrote:
less likely to get all town the longer the game goes, unless all non-town get wrecked or somethingIn post 70, Raya36 wrote:Can't this apply to anytime in the game though? You won't get an early townbloc but you could still get one just as easily?
at that point did you really need it anyway lol
but I think unwnd not voting for anyone who voted for korina means it's not true? UNVOTE:- Raya36
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Hm interesting, I feel like the chances of that are slim but definitely a worth risk takingIn post 72, Toogeloo wrote:
Sure, but if I had that, and got 4 town immediately, I'd tell everyone to speed lynch me and have 4 confirmed townies the scum have to deal with.In post 70, Raya36 wrote:
Can't this apply to anytime in the game though? You won't get an early townbloc but you could still get one just as easily?In post 61, Toogeloo wrote:
Actually, if used early, it can be quite broken. Instant townbloc if you find 4 people all town on a wagon.In post 58, Raya36 wrote:That's true. If I had that ability I probably wouldn't use it right away on the start of the first wagon.- Raya36
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An honourIn post 124, Disney Princesses wrote:Congratulations is in order to the following players:
Raya, Cook, unwnd, Korina, and Angry Birds!
The last player is special because of penguin_alien and her much anticipated return! You group of five are my group of FAST FRIENDS - while I will skim most posts in this game, your posts I will hang on every word and assume every argument you make is in good faith and support you where appropriate! All except for Angry Birds were selected randomly, and your special status will only last for one game Day. This status only extends to the Nacho hydra head (the one posting now) - Spiffeh is a loose cannon that I cannot control.
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I thought you trusted meIn post 144, Disney Princesses wrote:
These two clearly coordinated their entrances in the scum PTIn post 22, Raya36 wrote:I got a headache just from reading Korina's shouting. Sounds to me like a crime worthy of killing
VOTE: Korina
it makes no difference that the posts are 14 minutes apart
2 down 5 to go
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A real shameIn post 146, Magnus V wrote:Raya was late on the quickhammer, ~Spiffeh. Forgive her inferior internet- Raya36
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This is my first large and it's been awhile since I've played a game where people randomly claim whatever at the start. Or maybe I just liked the idea of having a pool of 2 scum in 3 people too much.In post 152, Disney Princesses wrote:
I'm surprised you believed this claim so readily! I expected more fake claims early game, but using a sensor role at that point would be so wildly suboptimal that I find it hard to believe that unwnd would have blown it, even in a casual setup such as this.In post 24, Raya36 wrote:Very interesting. So we have Korina, Pooky, Magnus, and me.
Assuming you're telling the truth, 2 in Korina, Pooky, and Magnus from my perspective is really not a bad pool
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Unwnd is still saying it's true. I'm not sure why they would lie unless just for trolling but I'm not entirely sure what to think.In post 165, Disney Princesses wrote:
As a follow-up, it seems like your wheels kind of fell off after the censor drama but I did like your progression so great job if you're scum so far!In post 152, Disney Princesses wrote:
I'm surprised you believed this claim so readily! I expected more fake claims early game, but using a sensor role at that point would be so wildly suboptimal that I find it hard to believe that unwnd would have blown it, even in a casual setup such as this.In post 24, Raya36 wrote:Very interesting. So we have Korina, Pooky, Magnus, and me.
Assuming you're telling the truth, 2 in Korina, Pooky, and Magnus from my perspective is really not a bad pool
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Do you have any additional thoughts? You seem to have background with Magnus, do you have an impression of him?
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I don't know who Magnus is, but I assume he is an alt and knows me. I don't have a strong impression of him yet but I did like some of his takes.- Raya36
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This post felt off but maybe it was in the formatting?In post 222, Flea The Magician wrote:POOKY DON'T FALL FOR THE ATE.
YOU KNOW IT'S BAD TIMES
I STILL FEEL BAD!
Also I missed the census results, I think I'm happy in that pool today.
The reason I think is because someone needs to stop my head spinning.
Ooooo if someone wants to give me a post restriction I'd be well happy
Do we have have hydras in hydras?
Ngl I have no freaking clue whos who in this game.
Now where was that wagon....
Korina, Magnus, Pooky and Raya...
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Crushing bad people is my favourite pass-time. I'm sure we will be town friends in no timeIn post 245, Disney Princesses wrote:
We do trust you, although I think that the Nacho head trusts you more than the Spiffy head currently. You seem pure and well-intentioned, which is a great starting off point, but I'd like to solidify that read by teaming up with you to crush bad people. The only way we can move from FAST FRIENDS to TOWN FRIENDS by standing on a pile of anti-town bodies that we created.In post 200, Raya36 wrote:I thought you trusted me- Raya36
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I'm starting to lean towards it being fake but they're keeping it alive because it's generating content.In post 246, Disney Princesses wrote:
While this would be convenient, I do think that it's far more likely that unwnd waits to use it as a time where there would be a more significant impact as opposed to using it right now. If fakeclaiming (regardless of alignment), however, it has the advantage of moving us to a serious stage earlier than it might otherwise.In post 202, Raya36 wrote:Or maybe I just liked the idea of having a pool of 2 scum in 3 people too much.- Raya36
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His 55 gave me another perspective to look at Korina and Unwnd from which I found helpful. I agree with 59. The claim felt genuine. That said, I disagree with the vote on Samantha and the rest of his posts have been on the fluffier side.In post 247, Disney Princesses wrote:
What takes of his did you like?In post 203, Raya36 wrote:I don't have a strong impression of him yet but I did like some of his takes.- Raya36
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Just because I'm a wolf doesn't mean I'm aIn post 265, Nono wrote:here now and reading~
tempted to angry vote korina, frustration feels strange, unlikely to roll actual cult, are you kidding??
if strange behavior is normal,, dunno, will listen to others, but didn't like what's shown, personally
first impressions, raya scummy xD
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I thought the game being multiball is just something that's almost sure to happen? Why analyze so much into it?In post 291, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
Here are the 3 lines of reasoning I came up with sharing this information as the 3 types of alignment:In post 288, Vaxkiller wrote:Because it is something i know.
Town: It is true information, and it's better for us to be informed. I would disagree with this, but more to the point: it basically invites players to begin quiestioning you about how much you actually do know, which focuses more on mechanics rather than gameplay. It also forces you to play your entire hand.
Anti-Town: You are phishing for a reaction from other players, to see if they are surprised that another anti-town faction exists and to then find and peg them for free town points. You don't necessarily have to be speaking the truth to play this gambit.
Neutral: There are many reasons why you would reveal this information as a Neutral. I can't really say why you would or why you shouldn't have.- Raya36
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You may not have seen it since I just posted it before this post but I'm thinking it's a joke/lie for generating content.In post 361, unwnd wrote:Posts do not jump at me. They are all within reason... Went from (Why would unwnd lie -> OK Maybe unwnd is lying) without concluding why their thought changed. I hope they find conviction eventually- Raya36
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Maybe I'm mistaken but looking at the grand idea thread the game is almost sure to be multiball if 21 roles are taken at random?In post 382, Guillotina wrote:
It is? How do you know?In post 356, Raya36 wrote:
I thought the game being multiball is just something that's almost sure to happen? Why analyze so much into it?In post 291, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
Here are the 3 lines of reasoning I came up with sharing this information as the 3 types of alignment:In post 288, Vaxkiller wrote:Because it is something i know.
Town: It is true information, and it's better for us to be informed. I would disagree with this, but more to the point: it basically invites players to begin quiestioning you about how much you actually do know, which focuses more on mechanics rather than gameplay. It also forces you to play your entire hand.
Anti-Town: You are phishing for a reaction from other players, to see if they are surprised that another anti-town faction exists and to then find and peg them for free town points. You don't necessarily have to be speaking the truth to play this gambit.
Neutral: There are many reasons why you would reveal this information as a Neutral. I can't really say why you would or why you shouldn't have.- Raya36
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Isn't that still technically multiball though?In post 386, samantha97 wrote:could be something like 4-5 mafia and 2-3 third party, rather than alien/werewolf/whatever- Raya36
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I think Pooky is just messing around about the cult stuff. I just looked back at his iso and he also said he's a confirmable tpr.
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Why wouldn't claiming a confirmable tpr amount to anything? Especially coming from the one pushing for a massclaimIn post 551, Rebel Radio wrote:k whatever.
i dont think that will amount to anything if im being honest, their day play i find scummy still outside of that.
im going to just keep my vote on hayker for now.
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I assume you're referring to thinking Koba could be scum?In post 576, dsjstr wrote:o7 okay Raya wrong place at the right time for me.
explain yourself because I don't really believe you but I want you as my new partner
They feel way off tonally for one and they're also typically someone who plays quite aggressively but also generally well thought out.
Implying it's within Pooky's scum-meta to claim a confirmable tpr makes no sense and when asked about it responding with "k whatever" doesn't tonally sound like town!Koba. Saying that the confirmable tpr claim won't amount to anything also makes absolutely 0 sense coming from Koba who was just a few pages ago pushing for a mass claim to sort people. Someone with the mindset of solving based off of claims shouldn't be brushing off a claim and saying it won't amount to anything. Also posts like 462 feels so off. They say it like Pooky is trying to hide "being cult" but their behavior is so obvious cult-like. But what really happened is Pooky essentially states that he is cult and Koba is like wow Pooky is so bad at this, it's so obvious they're cult.
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I mean maybe but I'm really struggling to see your thought process and make any sense of it looking at your pov as if you were town.In post 579, Rebel Radio wrote:
what?In post 574, Raya36 wrote:It feels like scum!Koba to me too mainly because they aren't making much sense and I know town!Koba makes sense. But 560 felt very genuine and like they want to solve the game. Not that scum!Koba can't make that post though.
i never make sense
get outta here.
but maybe u are town for this observation bc u were scum twice against me so maybe now without being informed u think i dont make sense lol
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Actually this might be part of what was raising red flags tonally for meIn post 597, unwnd wrote: If I had to dabble in meta I would say that you're more reliant on the game reacting toyourcontent but it seems to be the complete opposite right now.- Raya36
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I was kinda lost on the vax push up until now since he barely posted anything and just looked like an inactive player push but this makes sense and I'm kind of agreeing.In post 629, Disney Princesses wrote:In post 282, Vaxkiller wrote:This is multiballs BTWSo general pieces on his entry is that it was bland as hell - there's nothing he did to stick his neck out at all, nothing mildly controversial. Next, I'm squicked out by the multiball declaration. Like, hell yeah, fairly obvious that it's multiball based on 7 scum, but Vax is the type of player that would miss the mod declaration at the beginning, but would know that it was multiball because he was sitting on a smaller scumteam. Finally, I don't like the Raya vote here - Raya wagon was a larger one and he just kind of slides on without giving any reason why - I kind of get why you and samantha and whoever else voted Raya but I don't see why Vax would make that vote.
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While the cult sounds like aIn post 673, Magnus V wrote:Raya, they make me work 70 hour weeks at the cult and I don't get paid for overtime. It's a really sweet gig and I think you should look into submitting your application to join.greattime I'm actually being paid quite well here in town- Raya36
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Disney has felt town to me but posting little as scum seems to line up for Hayker at a quick look at their recent games. It doesn't seem they have any recent town games though? That could just be how they play all the time?In post 747, Vaxkiller wrote:Ok, but I'm not sure what there is to hash out.
My biggest scum read is hayker, but I could be building all of it up in my head. Hayker in my experience is pretty low poster as scum, and probably the biggest scum tell is they avoid tough conversations. He popped in here, and I wanted to engage with them, but alas, they are not here.
I was scum with hayker in a previous game, and they mostly followed our (my scum teams) lead. I believe I'm seeing this here with Disney princess and hayker. Altho, as I type this out, I'd have to check back to see if hayker quoted our posts when pushing our agenda.- Raya36
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Why would be eliminate a survivor instead of taking a shot at potential scum? Why not just let them have a chance to win with us?In post 761, Toogeloo wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Korina
Cool. We can eliminate an anti-town, go into the night phase with all the townies getting their cool powers they want, and then unfurl madness tomorrow.
Well, everyone else can get powers. I can wallow in my modified VT role.
Pookstar, am I really gating you? /sadpandaface
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I don't really consider a survivor to be anti-town unless they're intentionally throwing town off. Doesn't hurt to follow the plan Pooky saidIn post 766, Toogeloo wrote:
Scum is any non-town, right? Eliminating a non-town on Day 1 is always better than a town elimination, which tends to happen far more often.In post 762, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:what r u serious there's no reason to eliminate korina whatsoever
we know the total number of non-town-aligned players is 7
so if we elim 6 non-town-aligned players and the game isn't over and Korina is still alive, then we can elim Korina cuz they r lying about being a survivor
there's literally no reason to waste an elim on a claimed survivor unless you think they r really scum or something
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This is still my preferred wagon. And this is even more reason. More votes hereIn post 858, Flea The Magician wrote:Scum know their roles. They have no clue what powers are available to town. You're pushing massclaim for bad reasons, you're not willing to follow up on questioning and you're still farming information.
screw it, 10 days left? VOTE: Radio Rebel C[_]- Raya36
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I already did explain why I think you're mafia though. And I also think Flea has a good point too.In post 878, Rebel Radio wrote:preferred wagon bc I fos you raya you can't even explain why I'm mafia. You did this last game too
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You're leaning towards the being a jester but voting still?In post 879, Guillotina wrote:Hayker slot gives me vibes like he does not care about getting yeeted. Voting for Vaxkiller saying “yah that'sgood enoughfor me”, like any death is ok for him, does not sound like what a wolf would say. I'd lean more towards an independent like a Jester or a townie looking for a lazy sheep, which is totally anti-town behavior in my opinion.
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What? I'm aware of others?In post 882, Rebel Radio wrote:raya is tunneled in on only my slot because as scum they need to not be aware of others in the gamestate, something they were guilty of as scum in a previous game with both of us.
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Don't like how quickly you got off that wagon after backlashIn post 886, Guillotina wrote:Maybe Hayker is Dead Air, Dead Villager
UNVOTE: Hayker
I think i know whom im ISOing first tomorrow.
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47 - Pooky scumIn post 905, Rebel Radio wrote:In post 895, Raya36 wrote:
I already did explain why I think you're mafia though. And I also think Flea has a good point too.In post 878, Rebel Radio wrote:preferred wagon bc I fos you raya you can't even explain why I'm mafia. You did this last game too
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What are your reads?In post 897, Raya36 wrote:
What? I'm aware of others?In post 882, Rebel Radio wrote:raya is tunneled in on only my slot because as scum they need to not be aware of others in the gamestate, something they were guilty of as scum in a previous game with both of us.
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And where have you explained how I'm mafia? Can you explain why that read has been static this whole time somehow?
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203/354 - Magnus townlean
380 - Unwnd town
545 - Pooky town
574 - Rebel scum
[post=669]669[/[post] - Rebel scum, explained here
669 - Samantha town
674 - Vax scumlean
799 - Disney town
800 - Korina survivor
806 - Hayker scumlean
898 - Guillotina scumlean
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Hm I was under the impression that Jesters ended the game, my bad.In post 963, Guillotina wrote:
Yah? Jesters win but we all know that's a joke on them because the game continues, so they don't actually win.In post 896, Raya36 wrote:
You're leaning towards the being a jester but voting still?In post 879, Guillotina wrote:Hayker slot gives me vibes like he does not care about getting yeeted. Voting for Vaxkiller saying “yah that'sgood enoughfor me”, like any death is ok for him, does not sound like what a wolf would say. I'd lean more towards an independent like a Jester or a townie looking for a lazy sheep, which is totally anti-town behavior in my opinion.
VOTE: Hayker
We townies are allowed to change our minds as quickly as we want and as frequently as we want.In post 898, Raya36 wrote:
Don't like how quickly you got off that wagon after backlashIn post 886, Guillotina wrote:Maybe Hayker is Dead Air, Dead Villager
UNVOTE: Hayker
I think i know whom im ISOing first tomorrow.
Thanks for the reactions! You are da best!
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Well if it's 8/13 that's only a 62.5% chance of being sane.In post 1492, Korina wrote:SO, THEY CAN'T BE NAIVE, AND ASSUMING THEY ARE JUST TOWN BLOODHOUND, WE HAVE A POOL OF 13 ROLES, MEANING THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE IF THEY ARE A BLOODHOUND, THEY ARE SANE
I'm confused because if Unwnd is sane then Bell is scum. But Bell claims to be a town neighbor with NDMath and also the cause for the counter of how many town are alive which can be counter claimed.- Raya36
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I agree as long as bell's claim ends up checking out. I think Unwnd is just not saneIn post 1495, Bell wrote:There are probably all kinds of alignment changers so it doesn't really have to be a cult.
Lol he's equally likely to be sane as insane. I kind of doubt he's scum gambiting with his life D2 for no reason.
I'm pretty obviously town and played like town all game yesterday though. my scumdar was working at least.- Raya36
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I liked your reads for the most part D1 but I disagree with this. Why would scum!Unwnd gambit like this.In post 1510, Disney Princesses wrote:Too convenient. Disliked unwnd before the claim. Hated the claim as it unfolded.- Raya36
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This wagon start is feeling opportunitive to meIn post 1518, Flea The Magician wrote:yeah ok I'm good. ¬_¬ was worried some other BS was happening.
VOTE: unwnd for the bad claim- Raya36
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ExactlyIn post 1524, Particularly Stupid wrote:I don't see what we think unwnd's master plan is here.- Raya36
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I think Korina is telling the truth. I'm sure there are plenty of roles that can affect alignment so it wouldn't be a surprise if someone was changed to scum as well.In post 1591, Flea The Magician wrote:Makes sense to me Korina, you gotta question the numbers though :/ - Raya36
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