WALRUS (congrats to the winners / go join heltris walrus)

This forum is for playing games other than Mafia and Mafia variants.
Forum rules
User avatar
schadd_
schadd_
he/it
pandora's pukebox
User avatar
User avatar
schadd_
he/it
pandora's pukebox
pandora's pukebox
Posts: 7307
Joined: December 28, 2016
Pronoun: he/it
Location: mountain bathroom
Contact:

WALRUS (congrats to the winners / go join heltris walrus)

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:38 pm

Post by schadd_ »

IN SHORT
  • you send me 7 or 8 songs that fit each category i lay out below. i grade them based on how much i like them, how well they fit the category, and a couple other things.
  • its like song contest but, for the general population of people who aren't me, it's like all submitting and no judging
  • i will listen and grade the songs myself and then sporadically schedule listening events in discord
  • you should submit to this!!!
  • this concept is stolen from mafia universe

Spoiler: NAMING AND SHAMING SOME USERS THAT I WOULD LIKE IT IF THEY JOINED
tris. caled f witch. sleepy krew (youll be like "oh i dont know enough songs to do this." i dont care). hell books. mcmenno. cheetory6. chevre. shaft.ed. psyche. if zoraster is looking at this he doesn't need me to tell him that i would inevitably find his submissions very funny. any and all unmentioned monthly music thread and song game regulars. daisy buchanan. anix

plenty of people should still send me songs even if you are not listed here, especially if you feel as though you have some distant handle on the sort of music i like or just like recommending things. you should only not send me songs if you are only doing it to, like, be a problem, or propagandize opposition to the reunification of korea/ireland/carolina

Spoiler: NITTIES AND GRITTIES
your score for each category primarily gets determined by two concepts: 7 points for how much i like the song* (categories 1 and 2 are deliberately placed to help you think through this) and 3 points for Categorical Fittance (or "catfit" for short), i.e. how well i think it embodies the category i laid out. provisionally i might award further points for a particularly brilliant or obliquely effective catfit, or maybe just extra points for a song i really like.

my familiarity with the song also affects the score. in particular, if it is totally unfamiliar, i will give it 0.8 extra points, with a sliding scale down to 0 points for something i definitely know. additionally, i will place hard caps on the possible enjoyment points of something i am already Epically Familiar with - if you submit something from one of these albums or something in this thread, you will most likely not get more than 3 points worth of enjoyment. i would say i'm -very- familiar with most of those artists, so like don't expect to get more than 0 unfamiliarity points even if you are submitting a B-side or something. i dunno. oh also don't just resubmit the example songs.

your submissions should make it easy for me to anonymize who submitted each song - check the submission guidelines to see how that works. i will also be playing song game with each of the submissions - if i correctly guess that you submitted your song after listening, you'll be deducted 0.1 point. yes this is an absolutely trivial amount.

i will drop the lowest score you get, which means
you can just not submit a song for one of them if you're stumped
. otherwise, all your scores are added up, and then those are the final standings. you also get 2.0/1.5/1.0 bonus points for being 1st/2nd/3rd.

i will try to process categories on a weekly or biweekly basis, meaning that the results of the game get dished out over the course of about 3 months. wow! i'll do a big dramatic playing of each category in discord, as well as posting the results here.


*Warning: Extreme nit and Unbridled grit appears in the following footnote. so usually i rate things out of 5, except also something like 95% of music fits in the range of 3-5 under my usual measure, so i am opting to blow that range up to 4 instead of 2. so like if i would usually give something a 3.3, that becomes a 3.6 because that .3 above the 3 gets twice as big

Spoiler: SUBMISSION GUIDELINES
you can send me things via mafiascum PM, or discord, or whatever. mafiascum is ideal bc there's no video previews. ideally it is in the form:

1. [youtube link]
2. [youtube link]
3. i am skipping this category
4. [soundcloud link]
...

i will be trying to keep it a secret from myself who submitted which song until the reveals happen. youtube links are great, because i can't see the name of the song in your dm and remember that you sent it. anything that has that characteristic and can be played by the rythm bot in discord. don't worry about region restrictions for the youtube links. i love bandcamp but those links would be a problem for this.

you can think of shorter songs as being a courtesy to me. i reserve the right to not finish excessively long songs that don't really work for me

feel free to update submisisons before the deadline

Spoiler: CATEGORY 1: SONGS I LIKE
in this category, quite simply, the catfit points just amplify the enjoyment points. so i'll try to help you figure out what songs i like!

these are my favorite albums. these are my favorite songs. (dont submit those exact ones.)

i like songs that are experimental, or artsy, or present me with something i haven't experienced before. here is a song that did that recently. heres another

i like songs that make interesting use of electronics, especially when they result in a distinctly human feeling. this song does that. (NOISE WARNING) this song does that too.

i like songs that feel like they have a lot of moving parts. this song does. this song does too.

i like songs that are emotive. here's a song that's very tense and sorrowful. here's a song that's very loving.

i like songs that are either very active or rather sparse. here's an active song. here's a more sparse song.

i like pop music

Spoiler: CAT 2: SOMETHING I NORMALLY DONT LIKE
theres a lot of different stuff i like but theres still a few sorts of music i tend to dislike. pop punk, regular punk, post-punk, pre-punk, "emo", nu metal, edm?, the great trifecta of british 70s rock music (david bowie, pink floyd, queen), annoying man singers, things that are accompanied by a video of anime girls singing the song. each of these things has exceptions though and i'm always excited when they spring up.

examples:

Spoiler: CAT 3: INSCRUTABLE
send something that strongly sounds like it's got something going on that you don't understand. maybe an inside joke that only exists between the band members and a small amount of their twitter followers, or some undergirding musical structure that is doomed to go over your head, some lyrics that clearly mean something but are also indecipherable, an instrumentation that seems like it's provoking an emotion that's not installed in your brain.

examps:

Spoiler: CAT 4: PAIRED VOCALISTS
i like when theres two singers in a song. especially when they work well with each other. send me a pair of vocalists that have really good chemistry. (your song can have more than two vocalists in it, generally i will be judging based on how well two vocalists work together. the vocalists can also be the same person recording themself multiple times)

xamples:

Spoiler: CAT 5: CAT IMAGES
theres these two pictures of cats from online.

Image Image

i want you to send me a song that is evocative of ONE OF THESE CATS. i want to listen to your song while looking at the two cat pictures and think "ohh yes, it's that one on the left." OR "that cat on the right would like this song."

left cat examples: right cat examples:

Spoiler: CAT 6: VIVID PLACE
good music usually makes my minds eye run rampant. some songs in particular do a good job of painting this picture of a place, a teeming city, a vast landscape, a gathering of people - either by describing them well, or featuring a swath of instrumentation that is coded with a broadness of feeling, or some other magic thing. send me a song like that

ex's:

Spoiler: CAT 7: GOOD DRUMS
send me a song with some good drumming in it. oh you don't pay attention to drums in your music? tough break. you should start doing that. drum machinery is fine, but i strongly prefer something with an actual drum sort of sound rather than a general beat for this category. i really like it when they open and close the hi hat.

Spoiler: CAT 8: TIRED
give me something lethargic, a song that feels like it wants to summon more energy but is unable to. something that is slower that has feelings of physical wear, like textural imperfections in the instruments.

zamples:


i will leave (expired on 2021-03-08 23:59:00) to submit some songs to me

PLAYERZ:
  1. chickadee busts thru the finish line!!!!
  2. sirius 9121
  3. MUSHSHAGANA
  4. hellbooks
  5. PJ
  6. Ariel
  7. shaft.ed
  8. Davsto
  9. caledfwitch
  10. N
  11. SleepyKrew
  12. tris
  13. GeorgeBailey
  14. Cheetory6
  15. Chevre
Last edited by schadd_ on Sat May 08, 2021 7:05 pm, edited 29 times in total.
mnemonic for you: Toni Morrison Made Comprehensive Dialogues Despite Nearby Hordes of Reactionaries that are Verily Contemptible

todays featured user: shaft.ed

this year, i plan to exclusively listen to music released in 2022. send me things that are like that!
User avatar
PJ.
PJ.
Hell in a Cell
User avatar
User avatar
PJ.
Hell in a Cell
Hell in a Cell
Posts: 4601
Joined: January 5, 2007
Location: somewhere better than you =*

Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:34 pm

Post by PJ. »

Z
Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.
User avatar
SleepyKrew
SleepyKrew
he/him
Snark Attack
User avatar
User avatar
SleepyKrew
he/him
Snark Attack
Snark Attack
Posts: 15483
Joined: April 27, 2011
Pronoun: he/him
Location: the henhouse

Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:09 am

Post by SleepyKrew »

oh i dont know enough songs to do this, not that you care :(
To be clear: my avatar was drawn by SaveTheDragons.
User avatar
schadd_
schadd_
he/it
pandora's pukebox
User avatar
User avatar
schadd_
he/it
pandora's pukebox
pandora's pukebox
Posts: 7307
Joined: December 28, 2016
Pronoun: he/it
Location: mountain bathroom
Contact:

Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:47 am

Post by schadd_ »

In post 2, SleepyKrew wrote:oh i dont know enough songs to do this, not that you care :(
it can be an exercise where you take the 8 songs you know and see what permutation among the categories would work best. Itll be fun i promise
mnemonic for you: Toni Morrison Made Comprehensive Dialogues Despite Nearby Hordes of Reactionaries that are Verily Contemptible

todays featured user: shaft.ed

this year, i plan to exclusively listen to music released in 2022. send me things that are like that!
User avatar
Davsto
Davsto
He
Farce of Habit
User avatar
User avatar
Davsto
He
Farce of Habit
Farce of Habit
Posts: 5279
Joined: June 29, 2015
Pronoun: He

Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:41 am

Post by Davsto »

ego probably
User avatar
schadd_
schadd_
he/it
pandora's pukebox
User avatar
User avatar
schadd_
he/it
pandora's pukebox
pandora's pukebox
Posts: 7307
Joined: December 28, 2016
Pronoun: he/it
Location: mountain bathroom
Contact:

Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:03 am

Post by schadd_ »

errata for the "tough luck" clause in cat 7: if you have absolutely 0 access to any good drumming and need to fill out the category, you can blindly submit something from the general jazz canon and have pretty decent odds.

also editing in bonus points for the top 3 scorers in each category
mnemonic for you: Toni Morrison Made Comprehensive Dialogues Despite Nearby Hordes of Reactionaries that are Verily Contemptible

todays featured user: shaft.ed

this year, i plan to exclusively listen to music released in 2022. send me things that are like that!
User avatar
caledfwitch
caledfwitch
they/them
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
caledfwitch
they/them
Goon
Goon
Posts: 924
Joined: July 22, 2013
Pronoun: they/them

Post Post #6 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:10 pm

Post by caledfwitch »

i will do this HOWEVER i famously listen to like 50 songs so i dont want to be unfairly docked for my musical cowardice. im like the music listening equivalent of someone who goes to restaurants and orders chicken strips every time
must i have a gender.. is it not enough for me to simply b kinda hot sometimes

2x mafiascum member of the month !! wowowowee !!!
User avatar
PJ.
PJ.
Hell in a Cell
User avatar
User avatar
PJ.
Hell in a Cell
Hell in a Cell
Posts: 4601
Joined: January 5, 2007
Location: somewhere better than you =*

Post Post #7 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:15 pm

Post by PJ. »

chicken strips are so good.
Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.
User avatar
PJ.
PJ.
Hell in a Cell
User avatar
User avatar
PJ.
Hell in a Cell
Hell in a Cell
Posts: 4601
Joined: January 5, 2007
Location: somewhere better than you =*

Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:26 am

Post by PJ. »

Is the internet a place
Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.
User avatar
schadd_
schadd_
he/it
pandora's pukebox
User avatar
User avatar
schadd_
he/it
pandora's pukebox
pandora's pukebox
Posts: 7307
Joined: December 28, 2016
Pronoun: he/it
Location: mountain bathroom
Contact:

Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:35 am

Post by schadd_ »

actually its a band

as long as i start picturing the internet in the way that one would picture a place then sure itd work
mnemonic for you: Toni Morrison Made Comprehensive Dialogues Despite Nearby Hordes of Reactionaries that are Verily Contemptible

todays featured user: shaft.ed

this year, i plan to exclusively listen to music released in 2022. send me things that are like that!
User avatar
tris
tris
she
Splatoon Tetris
User avatar
User avatar
tris
she
Splatoon Tetris
Splatoon Tetris
Posts: 3875
Joined: January 7, 2019
Pronoun: she
Location: tris
Contact:

Post Post #10 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:17 am

Post by tris »

am i picking the right songs?
here's what it says
User avatar
schadd_
schadd_
he/it
pandora's pukebox
User avatar
User avatar
schadd_
he/it
pandora's pukebox
pandora's pukebox
Posts: 7307
Joined: December 28, 2016
Pronoun: he/it
Location: mountain bathroom
Contact:

Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:06 am

Post by schadd_ »

yes
mnemonic for you: Toni Morrison Made Comprehensive Dialogues Despite Nearby Hordes of Reactionaries that are Verily Contemptible

todays featured user: shaft.ed

this year, i plan to exclusively listen to music released in 2022. send me things that are like that!
User avatar
Sirius9121
Sirius9121
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Sirius9121
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1356
Joined: May 30, 2020
Location: Another Universe (Timezone: GMT+8)

Post Post #12 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:37 pm

Post by Sirius9121 »

good morning
余命数か月ばかりの恋に点滴で扶養する患者達
被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
発熱が死因 然れば早期に躊躇すべきだったと知る放火犯
User avatar
Chickadee
Chickadee
Slightly Sketchy
User avatar
User avatar
Chickadee
Slightly Sketchy
Slightly Sketchy
Posts: 3900
Joined: June 13, 2011

Post Post #13 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:34 pm

Post by Chickadee »

Thinking of these songs was no small task
Instagram: BoneSpellArts

"Yo I'm so good at anime girls" - pj
User avatar
shaft.ed
shaft.ed
dem.agogue
User avatar
User avatar
shaft.ed
dem.agogue
dem.agogue
Posts: 4998
Joined: August 15, 2007
Location: St. Louis

Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:11 am

Post by shaft.ed »

tempted to join and only submit billy joel songs
User avatar
PJ.
PJ.
Hell in a Cell
User avatar
User avatar
PJ.
Hell in a Cell
Hell in a Cell
Posts: 4601
Joined: January 5, 2007
Location: somewhere better than you =*

Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:27 am

Post by PJ. »

In post 13, Chickadee wrote:Thinking of these songs was no small task
i've been like 4/8 for like a week and a half.
Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.
User avatar
tris
tris
she
Splatoon Tetris
User avatar
User avatar
tris
she
Splatoon Tetris
Splatoon Tetris
Posts: 3875
Joined: January 7, 2019
Pronoun: she
Location: tris
Contact:

Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:07 pm

Post by tris »

i'm at 6ish
here's what it says
User avatar
Elbirn
Elbirn
Content Aficionado
User avatar
User avatar
Elbirn
Content Aficionado
Content Aficionado
Posts: 5384
Joined: November 16, 2014
Location: [GMT-4]

Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:26 pm

Post by Elbirn »

I'm sorry schadd I see your call to action but I would simply game the system by choosing 8 absolute bangers and hoping I get enough points based on goodness and not being related to the category

I also probably don't know 8 absolute bangers anyway

is that what the kids still call em? bangers? hm.
User avatar
schadd_
schadd_
he/it
pandora's pukebox
User avatar
User avatar
schadd_
he/it
pandora's pukebox
pandora's pukebox
Posts: 7307
Joined: December 28, 2016
Pronoun: he/it
Location: mountain bathroom
Contact:

Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:46 pm

Post by schadd_ »

8 bangers strategy would be fine but i dont think it would be expected to score higher than category attempts

that said its something you can surely fall back on if theres certain categorios that seem unworkable
mnemonic for you: Toni Morrison Made Comprehensive Dialogues Despite Nearby Hordes of Reactionaries that are Verily Contemptible

todays featured user: shaft.ed

this year, i plan to exclusively listen to music released in 2022. send me things that are like that!
User avatar
SleepyKrew
SleepyKrew
he/him
Snark Attack
User avatar
User avatar
SleepyKrew
he/him
Snark Attack
Snark Attack
Posts: 15483
Joined: April 27, 2011
Pronoun: he/him
Location: the henhouse

Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:18 pm

Post by SleepyKrew »

I'm gonna submit 4 bangers 4 mash
To be clear: my avatar was drawn by SaveTheDragons.
User avatar
SleepyKrew
SleepyKrew
he/him
Snark Attack
User avatar
User avatar
SleepyKrew
he/him
Snark Attack
Snark Attack
Posts: 15483
Joined: April 27, 2011
Pronoun: he/him
Location: the henhouse

Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:19 pm

Post by SleepyKrew »

ups
To be clear: my avatar was drawn by SaveTheDragons.
User avatar
Elbirn
Elbirn
Content Aficionado
User avatar
User avatar
Elbirn
Content Aficionado
Content Aficionado
Posts: 5384
Joined: November 16, 2014
Location: [GMT-4]

Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:26 pm

Post by Elbirn »

oh nvm I found bangers that fit yeah I am /in it to win it just you see
User avatar
schadd_
schadd_
he/it
pandora's pukebox
User avatar
User avatar
schadd_
he/it
pandora's pukebox
pandora's pukebox
Posts: 7307
Joined: December 28, 2016
Pronoun: he/it
Location: mountain bathroom
Contact:

Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:27 pm

Post by schadd_ »

dope !

also want to make clear that the 8x billy joel strategy is also ok
mnemonic for you: Toni Morrison Made Comprehensive Dialogues Despite Nearby Hordes of Reactionaries that are Verily Contemptible

todays featured user: shaft.ed

this year, i plan to exclusively listen to music released in 2022. send me things that are like that!
User avatar
Davsto
Davsto
He
Farce of Habit
User avatar
User avatar
Davsto
He
Farce of Habit
Farce of Habit
Posts: 5279
Joined: June 29, 2015
Pronoun: He

Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:39 pm

Post by Davsto »

i believe the plural is billys joel
User avatar
shiki
shiki
idk she it me
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
shiki
idk she it me
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1106
Joined: March 31, 2020
Pronoun: idk she it me

Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:59 am

Post by shiki »

/in walrus (schadd_'s stupid game); thankyou for the invitation
In post 0, schadd_ wrote:i will leave (expired on 2021-03-07 23:59:00) to submit some songs to me, or i might just call it early if too many people have joined (i doubt that this will end up needing to happen)
please give until deadline, as i would like to not hope for not too many people to join,
Show
shiki had a million questions about immortality, truancy, mythology and family, but she was provided no answers. ~isis

it's always 'i love you' and never 'i love you, alive girl'

i hope you will take it, and remember on earth
i did not know how to touch it it was all so raw,

feel free to delete this ghost
Post Reply