Warehouse 13: The Mafia Game (Game Over)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Read the rules. The recipient of the artefact will learn its abilities and can choose to do one of the following as their artefact action at night

1)use its power.... And accept its negative consequence
2)pass the artefact to another player, who will also learn its full rules.

In essence, artefacts are always pro town and should only be given to townies.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Not necessarily true re: always pro town.

For Tammy, you think flavor claiming before Day 1 even starts, is dumb to townread?

I'm hoping to get compensated in the form of a replacement, to be clear.

Personally, I'd rather skip the guesswork on the comb power, but that's just me.

Well, you're wrong. Any power, even with a drawback, even if the power itself is not pro-town, is pro-town to give to town in this game because they can just anchor/holster it and never use it and hot potatoe it to avoid it from scum.

In essence, we should never make arguments like "artefacts should be given to people we don't trust". It's a pure trust vote and pro-town to have on a townie. Always.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think Prism is scum btw

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't think that at all.

vote: Prism

Yes but see, you're wrong so

[Lady Lambdadelta]

No facts?

Math are you also scum lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

GAME SO EASY

MATH SCUM PRISM SCUM NACHO DUMB

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Right and I am explicitly telling you that Prism is probably scum for that

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What no quick response to that one Math?

Have to talk to your scum QT about the implications of it first?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I agree it’s suspicious but I can see a Townie motivation if Prism was just excited. They’re not a townread by any means but some of their answers just seem misguided rather than scum. I think if you’re right we learn more seeing how people who townread Prism respond. I think if Prism is scum pushing them here is the wrong play since we can only vote for artifact recipients right now. You’re better off advocating for a townread than a scum one.

AHAHAHAHAHAH

MATHBLADE SCUM

MATHBLADE SCUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


ahhh c'est trop simple

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I guarantee that excited is the absolute last adjective I would use to describe my play this game if that helps you solve the dichotomy.

It's okay, this game will be over soon, so you won't need to regret joining it for very long.

In the meantime, I bet you can't wait to shoot me night one. It's a shame in a power madness game like this there's probably a protective role on me, eh~?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What no quick response to that one Math?

Have to talk to your scum QT about the implications of it first?

I am playing Shadowrun while typing here. I will be necessarily slow. This is not an IRC chat. Slower is better.

Yeah except you were able to respond to the easier points I made within 2 minutes.

And that one took you a tick. Besides, once you're engaged in a conversation I doubt you drop it like that. The spacing of the posts being incongruent is a minor thing, but you taking the time to RESPOND TO IT LIKE THIS

Well that's a much more major tell~

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have a question.

Anyone have any idea how we bronze scum? If artifacts are good to pass to town, then what's stopping scum from just bronzing whoever gets the artifact and we get screwed?

Well, if scum want to shoot the person who will either hand off the artefact at night to a hidden player, or use its ability and receive a negative consequence... and then die, usually eliminating the negative consequence, they're welcome to do that.

This really isn't an issue. Infact, I don't want to discuss any deeper than what I posted above about this. It only gets worse from here for town, info wise, so listen to me and shutup about it, ye?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

dude, I'm super getting shot night one this game aren't I

lmfao

[Lady Lambdadelta]

BM, how would you feel about being wagoned D1 yet again? LOL

VOTE: BM

Well first of all, BM is town this game. So not happening unless you wanna die.

Second of all, you're currently voting to give him an artefact.

Third of all, that LOL was the fakest most forced thing I've seen in this game yet... and Mathblade literally rolled a nat1 on a reaction test on this page.

So.... BOTH THE SIBLINGS ARE SCUM?

EASY GAME?!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have a question.

Anyone have any idea how we bronze scum? If artifacts are good to pass to town, then what's stopping scum from just bronzing whoever gets the artifact and we get screwed?

Bronzing is elimming I think it just dead in general.
They could but then at the same point they argue the person is town and if they continue to do that VCA and day play becomes simple.

And yes I could respond when I am not RPing Sir Francis III on mic. I can respond fast doesn’t mean I would.

Pedit: Titus this is morning phase it’s about who gets the power first. Afternoon is scumreads.

LOOK AT THIS

LOOOOOOOOOOOOK

THEY'RE SCUM TOGETHER

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD who is the final scum?

So you can say you solved the game before page 5

Final?

Do we have a hard count of the number of scum in this game, Spiffeh?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

) There is only one anti-town faction in play for this game (Mafia). There are four Mafia-aligned players.

Come on guys

AND CAKEZ PASSES THE TEST

CAKEZ TOWNNNNNNNN

[Lady Lambdadelta]

SPIFFEH SCUM EQUITY INCREASE

PULL THE LEVER WATCH THE GRAPHIC BAR RISE

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Game so easy.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

FWIW I'm pretty null on LLD, MathBlade bothering to respond to the PT accusation was major ???, LLD's questions and aggression have a point that I'm fine with.

yes, YES

NULL READ ME HARDER

MAYBE THEY WON'T SHOOT ME BECAUSE THEY'LL THINK PEOPLE WILL BECOME PARANOID OF ME

GOOOOOODDDDD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Those last two BattleMage posts were not great

Strike 2, Spiffeh.


BattleMage is town

[Lady Lambdadelta]

yes, YES

NULL READ ME HARDER

MAYBE THEY WON'T SHOOT ME BECAUSE THEY'LL THINK PEOPLE WILL BECOME PARANOID OF ME

GOOOOOODDDDD

Can't reveal you actually think I'm town like that SMH

I CAN DO WHAT I LIKE

THERE ARE NO RULES NOW

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think Spiffeh town BM scum Prism null LLD scum lean Cakez is prob town but scum in a very minor circumstance so not considering it. If I am right then Titus is town by proxy.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

AHAHAHAH

WHAT HAPPENED TO TOWNREADING ME EARLIER MATH

Look, the brightside is that you won't need to worry about splitting your time between games and this now, cause you're gonna die here relatively quickly.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think Spiffeh town BM scum Prism null LLD scum lean Cakez is prob town but scum in a very minor circumstance so not considering it. If I am right then Titus is town by proxy.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

AHAHAHAH

WHAT HAPPENED TO TOWNREADING ME EARLIER MATH

Look, the brightside is that you won't need to worry about splitting your time between games and this now, cause you're gonna die here relatively quickly.

It disappeared when I unvoted you. I realized this is likely scum you due to not following certain things are you’re very much machine gun which was a scum tell when you and I were scum together in FA’s game.

You’re just loud and perceive me as a threat.

Just have to figure out how it applies to Prism and if I interrupted their gambit.

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

AHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA


AHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

oh dear. Let me make you a promise.

The day I ever perceive you as a threat in a mafia game, I promise to tell you personally on the spot.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Though, you'll probably be waiting a very long time.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ah I'm having fun this game.

I wonder if Grey is town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't think you know the first thing about LLD scum 101, but you're going to be severely disappointed this game.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Nevermind it was ffery who thinks I'm town, not Nacho, back in the null pile you go.

I was gonna say

LLD thinking Nacho's posted is kinda meh. He might be around in 9ish hours or so.

If I had to vote elsewhere, it would be BM right now.

The morning-vote confusion rankles. I wouldn't expect Titus to be confused about that kind of thing.

Hi mala!

It sounded like Nacho, sue me.

Not like it much matters. Sign your fucking posts.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If LLD is still arrive circa day four she is probably scum lol

Yeah, probably.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTE: LLD

im ready to speedyeet mathboy as soon as the real game starts

POOKY GOT YOUR BACK

kay Pooky can be town today

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Pooky I literally saw you posted in this thread and I was like "wow I'm so glad PookyTheMagicalBear is in this game I wonder what amazing content he will provide with his entrance" and this is what I walk into

I feel betrayed

hey

hey bud

you're... you're not town, are you?

It's okay if you're not, you know, look, when a scum and scum love each other very much, sometimes scumfucks are made

and... and that's okay

i accept you as you are

for what you are

and that is a scumfuck

you can be proud of it, own it, honestly

we accept you

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Thought about it more, haven't read last page and can't atm but zero chance sangres is scum here

VOTE: Sangres

That certain?

Just from that one inter?

That's a bit odd.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'll take the artefact but I'm not pressed about it as long as we vote for a townie to have it.

In my mind the perfect vote for the Artefact is Battle Mage, but I'm willing to take it if people think I'm towniest.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't have too many thoughts on the last few pages. I'm still waiting on more from slots like GreyICE/quiet, and at the risk of more over the top hyperaggression, LLD.

Bell's also a little bit weird since the last time I spent a game begging him for something mechanical I was a doctor, and as brought up by LLD, in general both alignments want to artifact hoard. With what I had, I was fine risking sending it to scum in order to utilize it in a more immediately effective way. He's not wrong on my strengths as scum but citing FGO is really fucking out there.

That said they're active and thinking and from what I can remember from petapan probably town.

It is too bad that the natural reaction to MathBlade's post about me/sangres is modkillable. While there was the miscommunication, I think correcting them on my experience is hilariously ironic, in that as individuals, Nacho is by far the player most familiar with my forum play, with ffery being the close second.

Tammy, most of your comments on my playstyle weren't wrong. I really love to talk about play like that but don't want to bog the thread down with it. I can't resist saying I'm "conventional" in the sense that I put an emphasis on basic scum fundamentals. It's when you have the fundamentals down pat that you can branch out into more interesting directions strategically. My style of scum is generally an anaconda that chokes the life out of the town. The phrase I use is "surgical snoozefest". That said, I do have an alternative if they don't like to go quietly and insist on fighting to the end, which quiet recently had the displeasure of seeing: violently smashing their dreams against the wall as though they were only a wine glass.

I poked my husband yesterday and he said he'd post today, so I'll poke him again today until he does.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'll take the artefact but I'm not pressed about it as long as we vote for a townie to have it.

In my mind the perfect vote for the Artefact is Battle Mage, but I'm willing to take it if people think I'm towniest.

Okay I take it back this is a scumclaim and intentionally taking advantage of the angle Bell is pushing with "town but not actively wanting it"

lol

Or I don't want to get shot night 1 for having an artefact and killing Mathscum

but sure you do you

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Actually, better idea Prism

let's both rage full claim and we can kill the least townie of the two of us.

Wanna do it?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

We can call it the Role Death Match

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Sure, last chance to back out.

Deal, done.

You first or me?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Actually, better idea Prism

let's both rage full claim and we can kill the least townie of the two of us.

Wanna do it?

Can we not and say we did?

Aw but I wanna make Prism's cocky ass shut up

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Abagail Chow, Mason.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

HEY PRISM

READY TO DIE YET?~

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD - please can you confirm I'm not the other mason?

b-but you're my mason partner baka

;-;

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Can I have the artifact.
I'm town and town should want the artifact and I'm nothing if not shameless about it.

Yeah, sounds like we're equally town.

Glad we could do that, regret zero.

No you're scum, remember?

We agreed you would die, cause I'm a mason, remember.

Kappa

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I really hate you both

Thanks for making my already bad day worse.

Next time if you guys wanna pull shit like this then replace out

Oh hush, everything is fine.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'd have claimed innocent child but I'm not allowed to be mason buddies with the mod, so.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Wait am I allowed to be a mason with myself

Because I've got DID

Big Thonk

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I’m on mid season 2 and she’s already complexed.

do I need to watch this show now, lol

I kind of forced his dumb soft claim out into the open for the sake of others like you to be able to judge it better

not sure why he gave the artefact away to a random player but

[Lady Lambdadelta]

POWER

UNLIMINTED POWER

[Lady Lambdadelta]

By the way we're still killing mathblade today

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm going to choose, mostly for the sake of my sanity, to trust that this is somehow/will wind up to be +town in EV, and not just that you could not wait until postgame to say "lol u were wrong"

Let's say the plan was always to claim Mason today, whether claiming Mason is +EV town or not will come to be seen in time, but at minimum it lets me guide the town from this position for at least 2 days before I die, so.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Well, possibly more if there exist doctors in this setup which, there absolutely can so.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD and Prism are playing like idiots

What, you think it was wrong for me to claim this role in this position?

It was always happening today, I just got to smoke out Prism's weird distracting nonsense of a soft half claim at the same time to sort it as well.

Personally, I think this is optimal outcome, especially since I got to troll Prism a little too.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Anyway sure, I'll take it.

Vote: LLD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What, you think it was wrong for me to claim this role in this position?

It was always happening today, I just got to smoke out Prism's weird distracting nonsense of a soft half claim at the same time to sort it as well.

Personally, I think this is optimal outcome, especially since I got to troll Prism a little too.

I mean, I'll own up fully to being wrong on you, like I said it was not much of a surprise, but considering that it's the entire reason you've gotten so far on MathBlade, and was well on its way to getting me the artifact Day 1: Was it distracting nonsense? I didn't hate fully outing since I had gotten basically all that I could from it and had anticipated fullclaiming today anyway. I know fully you bluff like that as town, but I prefer to call it over leaving it.

Considering fully outing the artifact information but going to chew on it for awhile.

Oh don't get me wrong if it bothered me earlier I'd have done something about it earlier?

But after my initial burst, I read up and Math was still on that shit right?

And it was drawing sympathy.

So I wanted to remove it and see what Math did without that bone to chew on, how he developed his reads post that

I should maybe have worded "distracting nonsense" a bit more specifically?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What, you think it was wrong for me to claim this role in this position?

It was always happening today, I just got to smoke out Prism's weird distracting nonsense of a soft half claim at the same time to sort it as well.

Personally, I think this is optimal outcome, especially since I got to troll Prism a little too.

I mean, I'll own up fully to being wrong on you, like I said it was not much of a surprise, but considering that it's the entire reason you've gotten so far on MathBlade, and was well on its way to getting me the artifact Day 1: Was it distracting nonsense? I didn't hate fully outing since I had gotten basically all that I could from it and had anticipated fullclaiming today anyway. I know fully you bluff like that as town, but I prefer to call it over leaving it.

Considering fully outing the artifact information but going to chew on it for awhile.

also I don't think I need a full out just yet, but I'd like to understand why you shipped it off post haste

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Mathblade

Pooky get your ass over here or I'm shooting you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Other Artifact distribution mechanics may be in play throughout the game. A set number of Artifacts were designed prior to game start. If the Warehouse is unable to distribute enough Artifacts during the game for a given phase at any point, a priority list has been designated by the mod for the distribution of remaining Artifacts. Once there are no more Artifacts to distribute, no new ones will be generated and the game will continue without that mechanic in play

Is this how Prism got their artifact?

I definitely faked my mason claim. We should definitely throw shade on it so I don't get killed.

And we should def. Throw shade on it when my mason partner could die at any time and prove me so we should totally waste my confirmed town status time.


Please kill math out of this game, they aren't town, this is a tactic to try and survive, and they are calling the mason into question because it is their only play.

Die the death, follow me today.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

lol Titus scum Math scum

It's so easyyyy

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Bell and BM both town tbh

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD I take it that my absence from that post means you have accepted that I am town?

Only if you bus Math

Choo choo

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD what’s your plan when I flip one of your supposed bosses?

NO KINGS. NO RULERS.

NO BLOOD NO BONE NO ASH.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What is Math doing that helps him survive? I am moderately TRing him and even I am considering a policy elimination.

LLD, this was a question for you.

This flailing is meant to look more pitiable and townie than it is accomplish anything.

Like there are already people who think Math is too easy and are lookign for juicier targets.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hey folks, quick skill testing question

do you think scum get to see what the mechanics of the 2 artefacts they have to choose between are before they ship them?

If yes, is there any downside to me hardclaimign the full effects of the artefact?

If no, is it worth hardclaiming it in certain circumstances anyway

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why not bronze Math, love?

Not that I won't bronze Titus for value and scum death but

Is math town or

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mild paranoia about being misdirected from scum math onto town Titus from a titus misread?

But I do independently scum read Titus so probably don't care? Just doing my due diligence to see why people don't want to kill Math in more detail.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mild paranoia about being misdirected from scum math onto town Titus from a titus misread?

But I do independently scum read Titus so probably don't care? Just doing my due diligence to see why people don't want to kill Math in more detail.

My paranoia says ur bussing Mathblade and I'm the day 2 fallguy -_-

Bruh I'm a confirmed town Mason. I'm not fallguying anyone. I'm just trying to kill scums before I die

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh oh I'm a mason 2 can i b kool now

are you my mason buddy

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh oh I'm a mason 2 can i b kool now

are you my mason buddy

obv. 3 person masonry with kool night powers we share rite

Yeah duh.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

For real though I'm just trying to get a feel for why people think Titus is scummier than Math cause I wanna kill both but I picked Math and now people are swaying the other way.

So I have concerns I am 50/50 and scum pushing me the other way, so if you can help me with why Titus over Math more scummy or why Math townie depending on your opinion would be helpful

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Nah you were bad as town too mouse

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The only way I'm getting eliminated today is if LLD thinks that is a good idea.

You are severely overestimating the pull LLD has in this playerlist

You're underestimating it. Don't mistake leaning back on the gas pedal to allow natural growth for a lack of ability to ram something down your throat.

Hell, I could bronze you today if I wanted, Spiffeh. It'd make the game severely unfun for you in the process, and I'm not nearly confident enough to do that yet, but I could.

Dunn's point comes from the right place. I'm a confirmed townie, playing a head of the class role, with a lot of control over the game. And I've been on fire reading Dunn as of late. Unless I say so, Dunn isn't dying.

Oh, and Titus acting like I'm going to be upset that she says I'm all about control is fucking hilarious.

I've literally given lectures to townies about how control is important and when to talk and when to shut up and let someone lead. I've let others lead in the past via this method. You think I'm ashamed to admit I am assuming direct control? It's exactly what I'm doing.

Titus earns bonus scum equity for calling any reaction I might have to that pre-emptively a "tantrum", because it reads like her trying to pre-empt being yelled at for having a bad take and regain some thread control.

And we know she knows she needs to do that if she's scum because she just had a whole talk about thread control.

So if anything is manipulative, it's that.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't really care if it bothers you. LLD is about control and that's a fact. LLD claiming mason is manipulative. That's a fact. LLD has fakeclaimed mason before. That's a fact. LLD has a temper that's a fact. I don't care if I provoke it. That's a fact.

My point was that going out of your way to highlight how you're willing to risk being another innocent tantrum victim, struck down for the sake of the truth, felt very performative.

If saying facts is manipulative, then I am guilty.

This is nice rhetoric but you're not Dwight Schrute or a PragerU video, I suspect you're not naive enough to believe that the selection and presentation of facts aren't extremely important.

I feel LLD is doing this controlling behavior because otherwise she'll feel drowned out in a playerlist with Tammy and Nacho.

This is subjective but I don't really think this is true. Tammy was a more vocal voice but sangres, while active and opinionated, was intentionally playing a reserved role. As for other players, I don't think LLD was scared of me getting the artifact and leading at all. As I'll get to in a second, contextually I don't think it makes much sense. She's also been more than happy to let others continue to push and investigate without shutting it down.

You were getting the artifact before LLD claimed and insisted she get it.

This isn't true if you look at how it went down. LLD explicitly was fine with someone else receiving the artifact, which I found scummy given her stance it needed to go to town.

It took me saying she was scumclaiming to get her to intervene, but the point of it wasn't to seize the artifact-it was to sort me and make sure I wasn't scum getting the artifact by seeing how I reacted to her when challenged. Getting the artifact as a result was a forseeable result, but it took me making a questionable attack to trigger her claim.

LLD is all about control.

There's an important distinction between "control of the final vote" and "control of the discussion". I don't think the former is very AI, and I don't think she's tried to domineer the discussion at all. The few times she exerted it was has been pretty judicious/limited.

I'll work through you/Math more fully and get back to you but this doesn't fill me with confidence.

The way in which you understand my approach and still play off it, and clearly are using similar attack->analyze patterns to me has earned a lot of respect from me?

Like, it's posts like this that make me pause and go "yo, okay, this person is really good". It also makes me realize we are gonna butt heads in a lot of games we play in because of styles like this.

So I appreciate the like, manner in which you understand why I do these things and this post was really cool? IDK, this post is kind of useless and doesn't really contribute to a read on you in any manner, I just wanted to say I've gained a ton of respect for you as a player vis a vis this post.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like she's not town.
I know she's not town.
It's just not a wagon that's going to succeed today, and I'd like to play a game with my wife where something stupid doesn't happen day 1.
If I'm dead tonight come back to this plox

I'm town Charlie.

Towwwwwwwwwwwwn

come to candy mountain charlieeeee

it's full of town candy charlieeeeee

Also I swear to god anyone else claims mason and it's YEP THAT'S A MASON ALRIGHT

I claim mason and it's REMEMBER THAT ONE TIME LLD CLAIMED MASON AS SCUM AND THEN SHOT THE TOWNIE WHO WAS FAKING IT WITH HER WITH A JANITOR KILL TO DISGUISE IT AND WON A GAME.

I swear I'll never live down those moments.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hey quick, people, give me one reason Titus is town if you're not voting her.

I don't need a full fucking case or shit, just one reason that I'm wrong and shouldn't be voting her.

your wife threatened to kill me

it's surprising how often I hear this....

[Lady Lambdadelta]

someone talk to me about the game, something interesting and fresh.

Also, Pooky got my back so he better not vote anywhere I don't vote.

I'm watching you bear. That foam finger should have my face on it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I've basically wound down and gone to bed but thoughts on Kitty slot LLD? I wasn't impressed with any of the responses.

Dunnstral is an okay vote in my book, I don't really know why I'm so hesitant to actually vote this game as opposed to just discussing it. I think it's just that I'm not confident...which normally doesn't stop me, but idk

Kitty slot lives to day 2 because I don't believe Kuribo makes that post as scum.

Not that he is incapable of doing it, Kuribo is definitely skilled enough.

and not that Kuribo couldn't do that as a neutral non-alignment response in any game if they were having a hard day

but in this game with this circumstance and being in a hydra with Mala, I just don't see Kuribo making that post because he has to know it makes him look worse and cedes a ton of his ability to live to players like me.

And I'll jump on that shit. having a bad day? don't care, lemme push you and see if you squirm the way scum does.

and Kuribo knows it.

So IDK, they live to day 2 not buying that shit from Kuribo scum this specific game

[Lady Lambdadelta]

someone talk to me about the game, something interesting and fresh.

Also, Pooky got my back so he better not vote anywhere I don't vote.

I'm watching you bear. That foam finger should have my face on it.

BM and Titus are scums.

Spiffeh has a lock scumread on Dunn and I am all maybe? Would sheep

VOTE: Dunn

yeah no offense i'm not really looking to kiki with the top of my scum reads list tbh

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I've basically wound down and gone to bed but thoughts on Kitty slot LLD? I wasn't impressed with any of the responses.

Dunnstral is an okay vote in my book, I don't really know why I'm so hesitant to actually vote this game as opposed to just discussing it. I think it's just that I'm not confident...which normally doesn't stop me, but idk

Oh also, it's because we have a weird circumstantial where your vote doesn't actually apply any pressure right now. The way things are setup, it's very centered around the interactions and things I've already created so adding a random vote to say, Dunn or Titus or whatever doesn't much accomplish anything until the wagons condense and people take their stances.

I think you'll find your vote carries more weight in what it can accomplish in about a week or so.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I get you scumread me but you should really really watch where your left over cookies ashes go. I found them three blocks over on Ghost Street.

*puppy eyes*

Please I am horrible at cases and Dunn is scum?

I'm not killing Dunn today so you might as well look somewhere else. You're going to have a very hard time killing something that doesn't at least meet my approval.

Dunn isn't dying today, and discussing that with you leads to nothing.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh, but I will happily flashwagon Mastina to death if people want.

Cause she apprently got time to hyper post in other games but not the time to do anything except suck horrendously in this one

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I would be down for Mastina.

The main problem is we got tons of lurk sacs.

Like my pref is BM or Titus
Second pref is Mastina
I could also go quiet/Dunn.

Dunn has more votes and I really like Spiffeh’s case.

If you flash it I join it.

Til then I kinda want this day to end because pretty sure we don’t got 200 more pages.

See this is why I'm so disappointed.

Do you know how scummy you have to be to convince me not to kill Mastina?

Killing Mastina is like fucking opening presents on christmas.

You're ruining christmas, is my point. That's the argument.

No, wait, it's that you're scum. that's the argument. My apologies.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Kitty is on the fence
Tammy townreads me
Mala is townreading me/on the fence

lol what

mala is one half of kitty, and i've been very clearly townreading you both here, in our private kitty trauma ward, and on snapchat for probably longer than mala

real weird to call that on the fence when i just called you one of my strongest town reads but okay

Kitty slot lives to day 2 because I don't believe Kuribo makes that post as scum.

Not that he is incapable of doing it, Kuribo is definitely skilled enough.

and not that Kuribo couldn't do that as a neutral non-alignment response in any game if they were having a hard day

but in this game with this circumstance and being in a hydra with Mala, I just don't see Kuribo making that post because he has to know it makes him look worse and cedes a ton of his ability to live to players like me.

And I'll jump on that shit. having a bad day? don't care, lemme push you and see if you squirm the way scum does.

and Kuribo knows it.

So IDK, they live to day 2 not buying that shit from Kuribo scum this specific game

blah blah blah blah blah, not a single game has ever gone by where you didn't misread me (either intentionally as scum yourself, or just because you can't read me) and call me scum, and in fact i'm pretty sure every time you've ever done it as scum, I got you voted off instead

and if you think i'm gonna squirm in a game i have no investment in, then i guess you've lost a step or two


on a more personal note, LLD, i like you as a person. I really do. but holy shit, you are forever exhausting to play with. I think this'll be our last game together.

i just can't deal with you trying to pick fights with me just because you can't fucking read me. every game we play together you tunnel me, either because you're scum or because you're just this hyperaggressive maniac who doesn't know how to actually play. and the fun thing is, i don't have to deal with that.

and my play style doesn't revolve around you, i'll post whatever I want, whenever I want, you can either like it or don't. i'm not afraid of you because i'm just not going to engage you and if you mislynch me then oh fucking well, i only came here because mala was excited about the flavor and asked me to play. i got no investment here.

I'm not trying to make you squirm, I'm literally giving you space to breathe and calling you town and refusing to kill you day 1.

What fucking world are you living in that you took "not killing this slot on Day 1" as "I WON'T SQUIRM".

Fucks sakes.

Also, on a personal note, you're being an asshole.

I have literally done nothing to you, and you have in your post

Insulted me
Spoken untruths about how I play
and called me bad at this game

If you don't wanna play with me, if you got a problem with me, fucking leave. I'll be sad cause I enjoy playing with you, but I'm not going to sit here and take abuse from you because you're having a bad fucking time. I don't deserve that garbage and I won't fucking put up with it.

I join blessed few games, and so it's pretty fucking easy to avoid me. I was pre-inned for this game. So it's blessed easy to avoid me. You are actively choosing to be here, and actively choosing to be an asshole and using the excuse "Mala asked me" to fucking make yourself and me miserable.

If you like me as a person, fucking figure it out. I'm not really in the business of fucking making people miserable. I literally made a post to give you space and described why I was doing it, and on a personal level, I feel really fucking hurt that you took that fucking act of "oh hey a person I like is having a hard time, lemme explain why I think they're town and stop a growing push on them from a position of power" into this.

If you don't wanna play with me, leave. If you wanna play the game, fucking get over this bullshit toxic attitude and fucking play. Literally no one is tunneling you, I'm not being hyper aggressive, and everyone is being given the fucking space to play the game. No one has a fucking boot on their throat.

Cause I'm fucking really honestly bothered, insulted and hurt by this shit and I don't care if you're having a bad fucking time you're not going to take it out on me in a fucking party game meant for fun.

So figure it out. If you're not having fun, leave. If you want to have fun, stop being an asshole to me and play.

I'd like to say "I don't really much care which one you do" but I kind of fucking do? I like playing with you? A large amount? But if the price for playing with you is you're going to post shit like this.... not interested.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Kuribo um she called you not scum

no, she said she was saving me for day 2 to see if i'm gonna squirm


but i don't squirm as scum


and i don't squirm as town


and i'm not gonna squirm in a game i'm not enjoying anyway

No, I said Day 2 cause I MIGHT BE DEAD ON DAY 2.

GreyICE is a "not dead until day 2"
Dunn is a "not dead until Day 2"

Literally I'm saying that in place of town so idiots don't go back and look at the flipped mason and go "LET'S FOLLOW HER READS" because I don't have full confidence in some of those town reads.

I'm literally just looking to reevaluate because I'm a mason and maybe I live and maybe I die but either way you're not a "possibly only day I have to live" problem.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like you are above the random average to be town and so I don't want to kill you. You're not confirmed town, and oops guess what you're not my mason partner either.

Math is gonna be so mad at me for revealing the person I am having an in thread fight with isn't my mason partner. Oh geez.

Neither is GreyICE or Dunn! Shocker!

I guess Mafia won't shoot them. Which if any of them are town will leave competent players to solve this after my fucking death.

But I'm not here to fucking make people miserable, I'm not setting people up to fucking squirm.

I literally town read you, saw you were having a bad time, and put my foot down about people trying to kill you today.

God fucking damnit.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm not really down to engage with kuribo, given that it is largely "How dare you push me?" rage OMGUS and there's no actual questions for me besides "Are you willing to flip me?", for which the answer is yeah, not confident but I'd be down.

I'll again leave the dialoguing to sangres, but I'm still curious to hear from Mala about my first paragraph in 1081 when she eventually gets in.

For LLD, re: 1108, I have no experience with kuribo and am having a hard time reading into the anger posts. I can totally see the slot flipping town but I don't think the "he has to know" section is true.

He's skilled enough to be doing this as scum, and he knows I wouldn't hold it against him if he did because this emotional outburst shit is not coming from an angleshoot? Like

if he's scum, he feels this way.

if he's town, he feels this way.

only different is whether he's using it incidentally to assist himself. I don't think he is.

So don't clear the slot forever, but certainly we're not killing them today.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also Math why the fuck do you keep posting shit about how I think you suck at town

I literally have no opinion of your town game that matters here, I just think you're scum. Why do you keep saying this shit

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LIKE TO BE EXTRA SPECIAL FUCKING CLEAR

KURIBO IS PROBABLY TOWN 70% CONFIDENCE.

GREYICE IS PROBABLY TOWN 80% CONFIDENCE.

DUNN IS PROBABLY TOWN 85% CONFIDENCE.

AS FAR AS DAY 1 READS GO, THIS IS SQUARELY IN THE "NOT KILL" ZONE, BUT OUTSIDE THE "DON'T REEVEALUATE UNTIL LYLO" ZONE.

THIS POST IS IN ALL CAPS SO EVERYONE CAN READ IT AND ITS CLEAR AND I'M NOT MISUNDERSTOOD I'M NOT ACTUALLY YELLING

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't make cases. I play on gut. I play on reading emotions. But since you asked nicely:

I don't like that you spent most of the early game trying to buddy people. Especially sangres early on. I first started calling you scum on Saturday February 20 at 5:46pm, to be more specific. I started thinking your enthusiasm made you town and questioned the scum read, but Mala urged me to see how it played out since it was early. She didn't quite understand the interactions between you and Tammy and I explained what I felt was the jist of it.

Me wanting to know if you knew what the artifact did, Mala answering that you seemed to indicate you did before I had a chance to ask here.

A lot is lost forever via Snapchat rather than the PT.

5:30am Wednesday I wake up with a 101 degree fever, mention this to Mala, talk about finding you and Cakez scummy, Cakez is a gut read. Call LLD and GI probably town with Math and LLD being my hardest town reads. She tells me keep trying to break the temp, I tell her yeah I'm already popping Tylenol, and I retire to my sick bed.

Your turn.

I take it back, Kuribo 80 percent confidence after this post. Same level as GreyICE. This is no longer "probably doesn't do this as scum" this is "actively being pro-town".

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD- yes, I'm aware that I was an asshole, and I misread your posts as I mention later with Pooky

I do apologize, and I mean that on a personal level

-k

Cheers, mate. I really like you as a person and always enjoy my interactions with you?

Plus also, you speak from the hip and are always like, open about shit, same way I kinda do?

So like, I get you. I vibe with you. It's not hard feelings, genuinely.

Okay I'm crying, there's no crying in

baseball

mafia.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And I didn't mean what I said about not liking playing with you, I was just frustrated and still not feeling 100%. I do like playing with you or I wouldn't keep doing it.

That was wrong, and I'm sorry.

You're running a fever in a pandemic where fever is one of the symptoms to watch out for. I wager you're dealing with anxiety about that ish on top of everything else.

All is forgiven. Feel better. We gucci. You're cool. <3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm back to just wanting more from Titus and quiet. I still don't know how to read MathBlade.

Makes me feel better that you're that sold on Kuribo's response, my instinct was "super town", after chewing on it decided that I needed to be more cautious but a pass for now, and at the moment I feel like I just have to wait and get the same read on Mala. Response was exactly what I was looking for with the hydra interactions, and was very convincing/nuanced on the face of it. The time turnaround was starting to concern me, but I was pleasantly surprised when I refreshed and saw the result.

Shifting from mad to a more calm press made it worth it to hand him the shovel and let him dig either my grave or his, and that was a solid pass imo.

If you're scum this game you're seriously impressive.

Like if you're town you're already impressive but like, for real.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Where is this idea that Mathblade is a policy yeet come from?

Math is a scum read and is perpetuating that thing to try and save himself. Nowhere did anyone call math a policy vote but himself.

Math is scum. It's not a vote this townie because they aren't helpful.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Find me another example. One I posted. Since you use my name so much.

Go.

Now.

Do it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also I don't need to case you?

Lmfao

What is this logic

Why do I need to case anyone? Especially for the person I am scumrrading?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Sangres, every time that math has brought up the policy she has used my name

When pressed she used a post that had no chance of beibg interpreted as policy and bad logic to try and back it up.

Do you think math is being genuine with us when she says these things or trying to abuse something narratively for sympathy

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fucks sakes sorry math my phone auto corrected

Apologies

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fuckkkk I feel bad now very sorry

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't know how that happened and I'm really sorry.

I'll double check my phone posts from now on to make sure that doesn't happen again.

Again really sorry

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It's a valid response and a sore subject and I don't blame you at all.

I feel stupid for it having happened, mea culpa all the way there.

Phone posting sucks cause I was able to do "himself" twice fine a fee posts ago but apparently She/he gets fucked IDFK

whatever just gonna check it everytime now

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I mean I just think you're scum tho, lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I can look again and still see scum

[Lady Lambdadelta]

1304 is the towniest post in the game, from anyone. The fact that MathBlade is a contender to be limmed today is a travesty.

If I am alive (probably will be) then we can focus on Dunn tomorrow.

I actually thought it over what LLD is doing and I am not sure she has a choice. I think her messing up the gender may be a clue. I think the artifact is making her push me. In the show when a person was whammied with the comb they started talking strange. Lemme check something in thread after work.

I really felt it was odd. I mean like for her to change your pronouns like that and say oh yeah it was just an accident. It was like more than once in one post and even my own phone won’t do that.
I just don’t see cabd/PA doing something like that either tho... I know them on a personal level and they wouldn’t risk causing trauma to someone just to force another to change pronouns

So I’m at a loss for words...

Spoiler: “let me go to hell for this”

Fucking hell.

Are people seriously doing this nonsense?

I have no whammies on me, the comb doesn't nothing of the sort and I just made a mistake while phone posting. I swear I tried to type he, and I just didn't check it when I was sending. I said autocorrect because I assumed it must have been that, but god knows.

I apologized multiple times because I felt and still feel awful and now people are like, making a game mechanic out of it and I'm really about to just quit.

Please stop. The comb does not give a negative effect until used. No artefact gives a negative effect until used. I'll literally full claim the fucking comb if I have to.

Merde.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

1304 is the towniest post in the game, from anyone. The fact that MathBlade is a contender to be limmed today is a travesty.

If I am alive (probably will be) then we can focus on Dunn tomorrow.

I actually thought it over what LLD is doing and I am not sure she has a choice. I think her messing up the gender may be a clue. I think the artifact is making her push me. In the show when a person was whammied with the comb they started talking strange. Lemme check something in thread after work.

This is the moment I went from "Maybe if I sit down and REALLY think about MathBlade for a few hours, I can understand him for alignment" into "I will never in a million years understand this slot"

This is actually the single most insane post I have ever read in a mafia game

oh my god sanity returns

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Wait wasn't LLD pushing me to get Mathblade over Titus.

-_-

Honey are you scum

no, me mason, me town.

But you're right, I've reached the extent of Mathblade at this point. My only current fear is if I let Mathblade live now, he'll never die. But I guess that's probably not an issue? Probably? Hopefully?

Anyway, Titus is still scum, they're both scum and I think I'll get more from Titus right now anyway so...

Vote: Titus

[Lady Lambdadelta]

don't take this the wrong way, Math

my husband just reminded me that i'm over thinking it.

if someone wants to die, we let them die. You want to live, titus is saying she'll die.

It's that simple.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

disagree. If someone wants to die, you look around and see who seems to be shifting responsibility so they don't look bad on Town flip.

Tell you what, this will help you solve things more if it comes from a non-claimed mason.

GreyICE, why do we kill people who want to die?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

disagree. If someone wants to die, you look around and see who seems to be shifting responsibility so they don't look bad on Town flip.

Tell you what, this will help you solve things more if it comes from a non-claimed mason.

GreyICE, why do we kill people who want to die?

We are heartless monsters who only feel pleasure at human suffering and the thought of a willing sacrifice arouses us.

We are heartless monsters who only feel pleasure at human suffering and the thought of a willing sacrifice arouses us.

excellent

VOTE: Titus

This is what happens when you play with Visigoths unfrozen from the old days like us.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODS.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

sangres (hydra of fferyllt and Nachomamma8) - Null (their reachout sole reason
2. Tammy - gtmh scum, nothing done since midmorning
3. borkjerfkin - gtmh town
4. SirCakez - scum
5. Kitty Trauma Team (hydra of Malakittens and kuribo) - town
6. Lady Lambdadelta - can go eat rocks, anti-town
7. mastina - gtmh null
8. Bell - town
9. Spiffeh - lean town, could be whitenighting
10. GreyICE* - gtmh town
11. PookyTheMagicalBear - town
12. Titus
13. MathBlade - needs death
14. quiet - lurker scum
15. Prism - meh
16. Dunnstral - sheeping this from Spiffeh so scum
17. Battle Mage - town

Kay I've shut up about this all day, but this is another example of bullshit I don't deal with.

I have provided oodles of space for players this game. I have no shut down anyone, and I've been really relatively light fisted from a position of power.

As for my mason claim, believe me or don't, but you don't get to treat me the way you have and call me anti-town when your grand contribution to this game has been literally so small that an electron microscope couldn't find it.

Also, I'll be expecting an apology post game from you when I flip mason, JSYK.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also just want to tell you that part of the reason I've ignored this all day is because a giant fight about this nonsense would waste thread pages

something you seem so worried about Titus, and yet, for some reason, keep baiting this conversation.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why? I have been abundantly clear that your claim was for control regardless of if you're a mason or not. That's the problem I have. It's the elitism and anti-town play that's my problem. If you're a mason, that makes it worse not better as you were under no pressure.

she has literally not done thread control except for leashing my vote to hers

Yeah.

She could have stopped Dunnstral from hiding behind her.

LLD knows that she has that level of influence.

Why would I stop that?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD - I know that you don't often like to talk about town reads, thought you sometimes will!, could you say something about why you have Dunn at 75% town?

Call it equal parts a desire to give them space to see more and something I've noted from recent games with them in which they have invariably flipped town each time.

It's not as high as others because I don't have the full confidence that Dunn is the exact same? Less active this game than I would expect, but I wonder if there's not other reasons for that.

In general I'm just not in favour of that being the kill today, and don't think any new info is learned by allowing dunn to undergo pressure.

Plus, I can leverage pressure on other parts of the game by denying that as an option and seeing whether they adapt or just flail.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

brains

braaaaaaainsssssssss

been hard

[Lady Lambdadelta]

We're not killing dunnstral today lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hey who wants to flash wagon Cakez today?

Vote: Cakez

[Lady Lambdadelta]

wait we have 4 hours wtf

where did the time go

[Lady Lambdadelta]

what has happened here

my depression has won

lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Uhhhhh

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So Mastina and Dunnstral both vanity wagonning with KTT on Cakez

while Dunn and Mastina are the top 2 wagons

if they're scum they're scum together?

Makes me want a Mastina death a lot less today.

I want one of

Mathblade
Titus
Cakez

today.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hey who wants to flash wagon Cakez today?

Vote: Cakez

Makes me want a Mastina death a lot less today.

I want one of

Mathblade
Titus
Cakez

today.

Damn, see you're one of my top town reads.

Like the Mastina wagon is just full of townreads for me, Minus GreyICE who is a "I need time" read.

but 'I worry about how Mastina and Dunn are both on Cakez and Cakez feels bad?

... should I just do Mastina? It feels wrong.

I need some guidance.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

WHAT A FUCKING LIE YOU KNOW THE MAFIA START WITH AN ARTIFACT AND YOU HAVENT USED THAT TO FIND MAFIA R U FUCKING KIDDING ME

Yeah, this.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hmmm

I think I have a problem with that claim.

Lemme think

I think that's a scum claim, tbh.

I now only want Cakez today.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

something just happened at my work and now my life has exploded in the worst way

i can't handle or make decisiosn rgiht now i'm shakig really badly

asking for an extension probably ba dbut i don't knwo what to do

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i'm not even allowed to talk about it because i'd break hippa law

oh my fucking god i'm so not okay

hard v/la juntil my brain stops vibrating

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I did not. I can explain things but

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote:LLD

Feed me Artefact please.

Also... did anyone have their roles roleblocked last night? confirmably?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I will out my mason right now and turbo power a Dunnstral bronze

I swear to god

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like either we give me the artefact or I out my mason partner right now

That's the options

Choose what you think benefits town more

[Lady Lambdadelta]

also, I didn't use the artefact I won yesterday

that one makes someone in thread loved and require 1 more vote to bronze by vote. Downside is not important.

I used MY OWN ARTEFACT last night, and ti's not a vig.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

To be clear, I'm not saying she's necessarily scum, but I don't think we should feed all the artifacts to her without question. Give somebody else this artifact.

Last chance, townies.

Am I revealing my mason buddy or are we just giving me the artefact as confirmed town

Which is it

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Prism?

Got any words on this?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Prism?

Got any words on this?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't really care.

I will kill you with a smile on my face and not give a fuck if you're town, tbh

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You were fine with me getting it yesterday. You weren't a control freak yesterday. Unclear why you decide to now after refusing to vote mastina Day 1 and forcing sangres/Spiffeh to bail us out.

bruh I literally was considering flipping to Mastina yesterday and was gonna talk to you wiht it

and then my work literally caused me to take 3 days off for mental health days because of kids in danger and personal trauma

so i noped out of thread for end of day

please eat my whole entire ass

[Lady Lambdadelta]

cool, let me read the list of artefacts I can use my powers to give out to see if I can find one that is ACTUALLY A VIG

so i can shoot this piece of shit prism out of this game

I have 9 options, one of them has gotta be a vig

[Lady Lambdadelta]

and yes that's right

i'm a fucking inventor mason

eat my ass

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am very sorry that something bad happened to you irl Day 1. This does not change the result. I do not care how much you sucked up to me Day 1, I do not trust your judgement.

cool

you're throwing and this game's town loss is on you

brb lookign for the most vig looking artefact

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm pretty convinced I'm like at least half of town's power, between us two masons.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am very sorry that something bad happened to you irl Day 1. This does not change the result. I do not care how much you sucked up to me Day 1, I do not trust your judgement.

cool

you're throwing and this game's town loss is on you

brb lookign for the most vig looking artefact

Can you explain how giving this artifact to somebody else is throwing?

because artefacts can be bequeathed and once I invent an artefact to someone I can't do the same target in the same game

and i'm confirmed town

so giving it to me keeps it away from scum and then i can hand it to my mason buddy

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So far the downsides have been

a global roleblock on all town powers if used sucessfully

and

some kind of "i can only vote once in a day" or something thing

on the loveriser.

they're not that bad

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You weren't an ego monster Day 1 but I'm glad to see you making up for lost time.

I'm being an ego monster to control artefacts

and then backing off on votes

would you prefer the opposite? i'll happily decide to give you the artefact then bronze you today for having it and not being confirmed town

[Lady Lambdadelta]

like i don't know why you'd want to give a power role to someone who isn't confirmed town, ever

[Lady Lambdadelta]

over a confirmed townie

[Lady Lambdadelta]

like i don't know why you'd want to give a power role to someone who isn't confirmed town, ever

You are not confirmed town from my point of view. That's why I'm saying slow down.

and I'm saying I'll out my mason partner

and objectively worse move for town

to prove you wrong and kill you, if you want to play like this

i've been miserable and irritable for days and i want peopel not to fuck with me on this one fucking thing

so either trust i'm confirmed town or i'm revealing my mason partner, and then for forcing me to do that i'm going to consider you scum for causing an anti-town even to occur and bronze you

those are the options

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I absolutely encourage you to bronze me for not recoiling in gratitude at worthless praise of my play.

P-Edit: You're right and this slapfight is pointless so w/e, will be back and try to do something actually worthwhile when I get home

You were right about Mastina. Is that what you want? Like, I also wanted to kill Mastina yesterday and got swayed by how cakez was playing

congrats, you're so fucking good

[Lady Lambdadelta]

No, what I want is for you to not get the artifact because I don't trust you to utilize it adequately even if you're town. I will not vote for you even if you out your mason partner.

cool, yeah, i'm so bad at this game, that's why i win so frequently

go fuck yourself

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i'm also literally giving it to my partner

but you know, who cares about that right

i might misuse it

by giving it to my partner

who is also confirmed town

big fucking thonk

[Lady Lambdadelta]

like you wanna call me an egotist, but literally you think you are a better target for an artefact than a confirmed town very good player who has another confirmed townie to feed the artefact to in secret

because you're just that much better than the rest of us, right prism?

who is the fucking egomaniac again

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am a very bad town player, my w/l record confirms this, and you are better than me. I am now put in my place. Maybe I will study your games sometime to learn more. Now that that is established, we can move forward on the "Not vote LLD->Bronze Prism" plan without burning pages over it, because we both absolutely respect the other's perspectives and are taking it to heart.

Yeah, that's why i was fucking singing your praises earlier, because i think you're so bad at mafia.

But you know what you're right, I should strive to be more like you, and only focus on passive aggressive commentary and things about how you PLAY the game

like insulting peoples intelligence, oh but not acting like we're doing that, no we'll just make sarcastic statements that can't possibly be construed as toxic right?

cause you're just so much better than i am, that i can't be trusted to pass an artefact to a confirmed townie

heaven forbid

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Based on the way Mastina reacted with my wagon, I don't think sircakez is also scum

I think it's likely that Titus is scum here.

I also think it's Likely that DGB (quiet slot) is scum here.

KTT was likely to be the town vig shot if there is such a role (they were on sircakez), though could also be a scum kill

I will take you bussing Titus

#respectTheMathTownBlockPPL

Not a fuckin one wrong yet

The way you play mafia is frustrating and makes games sink into apathy regardless of your alignment. I encourage you to strive to find ways to make people want to stop playing this game less.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You are intelligent and a valued human being. My opinion of your play in a mafia game, and the fact that I do not want you to have the artifact today, does not change this. It is okay to be upset by that opinion, but I want to make the first sentence very clear. This is not passive aggressive and is 100% sincere.

I respect and admire your bravery in being able to say this with a straight face.

I also admit some concern that you can actively say the things you have said and not understand that it appears to only require one brain cell to pass an artefact to a hidden confirmed townie.

And yet you do not trust me to be able to perform that action.

But perhaps my lack of having more than 2 of such cells is keeping me from understanding how a comment like that could be taken any other way except than "you are too stupid/too egocentric and won't pass a town power to a townie creating more town power."

when my whole role is "passing artefacts to players i think/know are town until i die"

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[Lady Lambdadelta]

Based on the way Mastina reacted with my wagon, I don't think sircakez is also scum

I think it's likely that Titus is scum here.

I also think it's Likely that DGB (quiet slot) is scum here.

KTT was likely to be the town vig shot if there is such a role (they were on sircakez), though could also be a scum kill

I will take you bussing Titus

#respectTheMathTownBlockPPL

Not a fuckin one wrong yet

The way you play mafia is frustrating and makes games sink into apathy regardless of your alignment. I encourage you to strive to find ways to make people want to stop playing this game less.

I wish you followed this too. Being tunnelled for a completely bullshit reason and playing with one hand behind my back will piss me off.

I play mafia cooperatively til I can’t as town which is every fucking time because I am either insulted demean or outright ridiculed.

Instead of attacking me why not do self reflection. The people I work with are dead.

I think I did a pretty good job of it yesterday considering the circumstances.

Perfect, no? But what the hell else am I supposed to do?

Let scum miselim me then everyone just goes “waaaah Math sucks” so no one listens to my block?

Seriously. My play was pretty good yesterday better than usual.

I pray your ear, kind sir, because as i have mentioned in my previous posts i did not tunnel you

or call you bad at mafia

and no one has ever said my playstyle causes apathy in a game state, unless i explicitly try to do so.

i spent all yesterday giving town the space to make its own decisions and barely lead at all

but heaven forbid i ever think you were scum yesterday

must be those 2 braincells i have fighting against each other and being incapable of making any kind of intelligent decision.

but you know, you have educated me about intelligent decisions

like calling out commentary about who my mason partner is, making it easier for scum to find them

or making posts so frustrating to read people would rather stop reading the thread than read them

or telling players that they are trying to policy you when that's patently not true, to make them concerned!

OR telling a player who made a bad mistake they felt terrible for that THEY MUST HAVE BEEN WHAMMIED

That level of moonlogic is somewhere someone like me with my 2 brain cells would never hope to attain.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm tired as hell and have had some bad news the past couple days, and I just don't feel like playing mafia tonight.

I was not roleblocked last night. I'm not sure my information is all that useful though.

I need to reread end of day, but I was concerned by Cakez and Pooky's interaction at the end of day yesterday. Mostly the whole "I will end you tomorrow" from Cakez and then after he claimed, he didn't know who to use it on and was taking suggestions, but if he suspected Pooky as much as he did, wouldn't he consider there? I did just start to try to reread through Mastina, and I'm not sure she tries to bronze cakez as her partner right out the gate that way. But i was also a bit surprised that Mastina just basically rolled over yesterday as scum; I don't remember that being her style.

Anyway I only got through the beginning of Mastina's iso and stopped. I'm tired and going to bed. See you guys tomorrow.

Okay. I was either not shot at last night, or Tammy is scum.

Anyone else have proof that they weren't roleblocked last night?

The artefact I used last night, Raputin's Prayer Rope, prevents all kills on me for 1 night, but if I am successfully shot, all TOWN actions (not artefact abilities) are prevented that night.

so probably i just wasn't shot last night wiht 2 kills

[Lady Lambdadelta]

the comb is literally useless and not worth using?

it literally makes 1 player need 1 more vote to bronze

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think Bell would also be a very good vote for the artifact in the event we do decide not to give it to LLD.

It's less about a townie getting it and more about scum not knowing who has it and having to be concerned about town power roles.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I did not vig KTT, lmfao

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I did not vig KTT, lmfao

Yeah we get the suspiciously specific denial.

If you vigged KTT you'd be town. Dumb, but town.

I'm not convinced you're town.

Same rule as before.

I will literally claim my Mason partner in thread and then bronze you for forcing me to claim my mason partner.

So it's either accept i'm confirmed town or I'll confirm it... and then murder you.

Also I love you

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like I don't really want to force my partner out but I suspect that scum really don't want to have to try and kill me past protective things and me shipping artefacts to townies is bad for their business.

so i'm not really taking compromises. The person who forces me to claim my partner, dies. lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I exist

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I love you husband

Also Prism what do you want me to comment on

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Okay fuck it I'm gonna try in this game again

Motivation restored

Tomorrow tho

I just got my covid vaccine today and i am loopy as shit

Also you are great prism

[Lady Lambdadelta]

hey so

Prism what's your feelings on bork

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why? Whatchu thinkin'?

Eh, been getting weird vibes from them, and their position on the mastina reads list feels like the shakiest. Like Mastina scum makes bork look the worst, IMO

[Lady Lambdadelta]

hey so

Prism what's your feelings on bork

Can you talk about your read on greyice at some point?

I’ll admit to not being the best greyice reader. I’m pretty sure one of the only times I got his alignment correct was when we were masons, and most of the other times he’s been in my possible or decently strong townreads as scum, so a little help would be nice because he’s not in my town reads right now.

My first concern was the way he called you scum, and a few times threw out the possibility of you as scum. He does not scum read you. I went back and looked at alisae and pine I think it was, which I had loosely followed, and he clearly scum read you there and pointed out why, whereas here there is no bite. Here’s my question is this just a kinda trolling interaction he’s having with you because why not and that’s totally cool if so OR is he feigning a bit of paranoia at you?)

I thought he started the Mastina wagon yesterday but looking back over things that isn’t the case. He was third after mathblade and bell though mathblade didn’t stick around for long, and his vote on Mastina was almost from a dare by Mastina to get on the wagon, which he did. I do very much like his interactions with Mastina because he called her out on all her bullshit, but I would have expected him to rally the troops onto Mastina more than he did.

His titus push feels off, mainly the argument that she read Mastina iso and saw how bad she looked and was responding out of that oh shit kinda of way, which doesn’t ring true when titus was aware of Mastina s treatment of her yesterday, and recognizing that scums treatment of you was wrong can easily come from town too. (I know that’s not the crux of his case but that bit hit wrong)

His bit about prism being scum and he got there by accident and is just that good hit wrong too.

Are these dumb concerns?

I don't have a great read on him right now, mostly because I have the luxury of living with him and knowing how his work has been going, so it's a matter of like

how much of his touch and go shots at people are just flexing to gain reads but not having time to follow up and how much is just putting on the ritz? really hard to tell cause it's not like he's pretending to be busy

So right now my GreyICE read is "eh, he could die but I wanna give him the opportunity to flex his skill a bit before we do that."

ESPECIALLY when he was right on Mastina day 1, and we have a scum yeet day 1, so we have more space to work with right?

It's not the time for that road.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Speaking of, I have an incredible urge to murder titus for calling me scum again and again despite my mason claim at this point

like i just don't see what titus accomplishes by doing it and i wonder if the accomplishment isn't just "shouting into the void to be seen as doign something"

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I kind of want Bork over DGB, but I'm fine with DGB or Titus dying tdoay.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

like I am sorry but if DGB is town SURELY the mason claim is fake, right? unkillable clears into day 4, like you have to be fucking kidding lmao

What is DGB's full claim?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

one shot bulletproof bodyguard?

So she can what, protect me twice?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I don't believe it but.... leaving it alive forces them to either kill me and sac DGB

or kill outside me and DGB.

Is it worth aiming somewhere else?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

... actually yeah no

I have some other inside info that

another artefact we accessed is MORE death immunity

so nope

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Prism

My mason partner and I unlocked 2 of our 9 artefacts and they both stop death.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What are the odds there is a strong man in this game?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD

You faking mason to collect artifacts away from the town?

I'm a claimed artefact inventor.

I have 3 artefacts right now, lol. Incluidng one of them that makes me bulletproof.

The 4th one was a self protect

[Lady Lambdadelta]

yeah fuck this

Vote:DGB

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I tried seeing a way where

that was functional

and it's just not

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I was pretty on the mark this game.

I wanted to kill Bork and Cakez, said I would kill Mastina and purposefully didn't town read my husband because he gave me nothing to read.

As far as claiming mason day 1 goes I felt very successful in what I cultivated and pushed town towards as a result.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Only regret was DGB but that role claim was...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Damn it's great that all the players that said they loved playing w/ me show up AFTER the game and not WHEN I WAS CRYING OUT FOR THEM AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY

Kidding, I meant what I said about appreciating Spiffeh, Tammy, Bell, and yes even u bork, and had a blast

It didn't surprise me that bork didn't torpedo the day, it's awful to actually spam the game, but I 100% would not have been so kind and would have probably tried to haggle some agreement out with the mod to cut the day short without making several hundred posts

I meant what I said in the game btw. You're very good and a pleasure to play with.

Hope to see you again soon!

Also Kuribo? You're best kind and I love ya. Anytime, anywhere, I'll always play with you. Also inbox is always open in the same way if you need me. I've been playing this game with you so long, I honestly feel like...

there are people on this site I have played with so long and more or less grown up with? It's like a kind of extended family in a way, aha.

So ye if you ever need me Kuribo. <3